Is Marc bullying Harry?

[Pete.]

I think it's clear at this point.

[billy123]

No he is just pointing out what a twat she is. I think its clear at this point.
You reap what you sow.

[Kazanne]

I think it's clear at this point.

NO

[Liam-]

Yes, without a shadow of doubt.

[Pete.]

No he is just pointing out what a twat she is. I think its clear at this point.
You reap what you sow.
But does she deserve the level of abuse Marc gives her? Calling her a cow, a pig to her face?

[Josy]

Nope

[Patricia4]

No he is just pointing out what a twat she is. I think its clear at this point.
You reap what you sow.

Very true bobnot :clap1:

[Kazanne]

But does she deserve the level of abuse Marc gives her? Calling her a cow, a pig to her face?

She's called him names,although not to his face behind his back.

[LukeB]

Nope, both are just as horrible tbh and i'm sure bb would have gave marc a warning for bullying like they did with helen and her jale treatment

[Josy]

But does she deserve the level of abuse Marc gives her? Calling her a cow, a pig to her face?

See this what I don't get, people go on about sexism yet they turn a blind eye to what one housemate does and focus on the other.

Both Marc and Harry have said awful things about each other and to each other, look at the wishing well task the other day Harry incited an argument in an otherwise peaceful task by calling Marc a dick whilst giving her reasons for her wish.

Now if Marc had done that during that same task he would be getting hell on here for it.

Both are awful to each other, I don't think anyone in the house is being bullied.

[Ellen]

No.

[Beso]

She's called him names,although not to his face behind his back.

:joker:

while the big cowardly bullying mouthpiece shouts at her using all sorts of derogatory comments and racially motivated insults.

[Tarryn]

They are both horrible people but for very different reasons.
I just think Marc is worse as he has said very disgusting things mainly aimed at the women in there. Also, he has made himself the leader of the house just by being nasty. The others are following him so they don't get targeted.
I honestly don't know how he is still in that house after the things he has said.
BB must be desperate for viewers as they are trying everything to keep him in there.
Other HM's would not get away with it.
Harry does not follow Marc, therefore he hates her.
He is turning the whole house against her.
If she had half a brain she would play the game too.

[Josy]

:joker:

while the big cowardly bullying mouthpiece shouts at her using all sorts of derogatory comments and racially motivated insults.

:umm2: is it BB youre watching Parm :think:

[Beetlejuice]

See this what I don't get, people go on about sexism yet they turn a blind eye to what one housemate does and focus on the other.

Both Marc and Harry have said awful things about each other and to each other, look at the wishing well task the other day Harry incited an argument in an otherwise peaceful task by calling Marc a dick whilst giving her reasons for her wish.

Now if Marc had done that during that same task he would be getting hell on here for it.

Both are awful to each other, I don't think anyone in the house is being bullied.

Calling Marc a dick rivals him calling her a pig, a creep, stinking, smelly, disgusting, dangerous, thick etc... Look we all know Marc is allowed to be a bully without any criticism and Harry can't stand up to him because she's a girl who walks around with her boobs hanging out.

[Pete.]

Marc doesn't even recognise Harry as a person by calling her a creature

[Josy]

Calling Marc a dick rivals him calling her a pig, a creep, stinking, smelly, disgusting, dangerous, thick etc... Look we all know Marc is allowed to be a bully without any criticism and Harry can't stand up to him because she's a girl who walks around with her boobs hanging. In the eyes of viewers like you anyway.

Marc isn't allowed to be a bully, because he isn't bullying anyone..

Isolating yourself doesn't mean your being bullied and she gives as much out to him as he does to her putting the blame solely on Marc is ridiculous.

[Beetlejuice]

Marc doesn't even recognise Harry as a person by calling her a creature

Yep. Very nasty piece of work. But apparently treating a person like that is "entertaining" and not bullying at all.

[DrunkerThanMoses]

No he is just being a twat to her and she is being a bitch to him. Both bad as one another.

[Beetlejuice]

Marc isn't allowed to be a bully, because he isn't bullying anyone..

He is so clearly a bully it is laughable that people deny this.

Isolating yourself doesn't mean your being bullied and she gives as much out to him as he does to her putting the blame solely on Marc is ridiculous.

She defends herself against his repulsive remarks and boorish behaviour.

[Liam-]

Everyone (rightly) jumped on Helen last year when she called Jale 'slugsworth' but yet Marc is apparently allowed to get away with everything he's called Harry because it's 'bants'

[Beetlejuice]

No he is just being a twat to her and she is being a bitch to him. Both bad as one another.

Nonsense. Lazy analysis that allows you to not have to make a judgement on who is responsible for the situation. Which is bully boy Marc

[sampvt]

In order to prove bullying, you must first apply the logic that one person is bigger or greater than the smaller or lesser person who is being bullied. Marc uses his manly charms to crucify her with well placed but sometimes flowery rhetoric. She threatens him with a bottle and says he ought to be frightened of her.

Go figure on who is the bully. Its not Marc is it, he is only guilty of having a vivid imagination, she is downright nasty and dangerous. If you are going to apply the logic of bullying to any argument, you need to research your views first. Tit for tat isn't bullying. Bullying is a different case scenario. Hopefully now you all might stop calling Marc a bully, he is a loud mouthed dick, but not a bully.

[Pete.]

Everyone (rightly) jumped on Helen last year when she called Jale 'slugsworth' but yet Marc is apparently allowed to get away with everything he's called Harry because it's 'bants'
Because he's male

[karezza]

He wants a woman to be submissive and obedient otherwise he will bully and intimidate them. He is a misogynistic bully.

[Beso]

:umm2: is it BB youre watching Parm :think:

whilst in an agitated state and whilst calling her dirty etc, he also told her she was a dirty knacker...which is another word for gypsy in ireland.


So yes, that was, in this instance, a racist comment....but keep sweeping these things under the carpet cause he is soooooooooooooooo entertaining.:sleep:

[Josy]

He is so clearly a bully it is laughable that people deny this.



She defends herself against his repulsive remarks and boorish behaviour.

By hitting out with repulsive remarks and boorish behaviour of her own ie the bottle comment, the smash his head in comment and so on or is that ok because she's a woman and he isn't? in fact the comments lately about them both are reeking of reverse sexism whilst claiming at the same time that Marc is sexist :think:

A serious question...had Marc commented that he wanted to smash Harry's head in OR bottle her, would the forum be going mental and shouting for his removal?

[Kazanne]

:joker:

while the big cowardly bullying mouthpiece shouts at her using all sorts of derogatory comments and racially motivated insults.

You keep telling yourself that,it doesn't make it fact,both call each other names,no one is a bully

[Liam-]

She didn't say she was going to bottle him :joker:

[Jason.]

Marc and Sam are both nasty.

Marc calling her a pig to her face. I remember the uproar when Helen called Christopher a wasp last year. Honestly, the double standards is astonishing.

I love how the people who are defending him are the same ones who've made countless threads on how entertaining he is.

[Josy]

She didn't say she was going to bottle him :joker:

She asked for the bottle to be removed jesus are you really going to come up with an excuse as to what that meant?

[Beetlejuice]

In order to prove bullying, you must first apply the logic that one person is bigger or greater than the smaller or lesser person who is being bullied.

Eh?


Go figure on who is the bully. Its not Marc is it, he is only guilty of having a vivid imagination

:laugh:


If you are going to apply the logic of bullying to any argument, you need to research your views first. Tit for tat isn't bullying. Bullying is a different case scenario. Hopefully now you all might stop calling Marc a bully, he is a loud mouthed dick, but not a bully.

He's browbeaten and bullied the whole house and has said vicious things about her. How she looks, how she smells even. He hsa even set it up so that it will be her to blame for making him look like the bully he knows he is.

[Liam-]

She asked for the bottle to be removed jesus are you really going to come up with an excuse as to what that meant?

No I'm not, she asked for it to be moved, was that a direct threat to bottle him? no, it was her having the knowledge for it to be removed before she lost her temper and possibly threw it at him, I applaud her strength tbh, i would have lobbed something at him before now.

[Jason.]

No I'm not, she asked for it to be moved, was that a direct threat to bottle him? no, it was her having the knowledge for it to be removed before she lost her temper and possibly threw it at him, I applaud her strength tbh, i would have lobbed something at him before now.

Same here.
If I was in that house with him, he'd probably have no teeth left by now.

Surprised nobody's punched him yet.

[Beetlejuice]

By hitting out with repulsive remarks and boorish behaviour of her own

That's like criticizing a man being punched repeatedly for knocking the person out who did it.

ie the bottle comment, the smash his head in comment and so on or is that ok because she's a woman and he isn't?

It's all said in reaction to his bullying behaviour towards her. Which you continue to either deny or justify.


A serious question...had Marc commented that he wanted to smash Harry's head in OR bottle her, would the forum be going mental and shouting for his removal?

Yes, because he's a man. Men and women are different. Men are more physically intimidating, stronger and far more likely to cause serious damage to a person.

[LukeB]

She asked for the bottle to be removed jesus are you really going to come up with an excuse as to what that meant?

:hehe:

Harry gets less slack than marc when she can be just as horrible tbh but because she is going against a male she gets away with it.

[Beso]

you keep telling yourself that,it doesn't make it fact,both call each other names,no one is a bully

the racist bit is fact.

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Nonsense. Lazy analysis that allows you to not have to make a judgement on who is responsible for the situation. Which is bully boy Marc

I dont believe he is bullying her, in the situation of the so called "masterbationgate" I think he singled her out when others were involved (Danny and Christian), but I don't think it is bullying. She has been a bitch to him as well. I don't particularly care for either one and I think both are as bad as one another. The sooner the both go the better so we can finally have less off 90% Marc and Harry show on highlights.

[LukeB]

the racist bit is fact.

He never said anything racist :umm2:

[Beetlejuice]

:hehe:

Harry gets less slack than marc when she can be just as horrible tbh but because she is going against a male she gets away with it.

No, it's because it is being said in reaction to a man who I remind you told a girl she was going for an STI test within an hour of being in the house and almost started a fight.

[Liam-]

The fact is, if he had spoken to my sisters, or any female in my family the way he has spoken to the women in there, I'd be going insane and wanting his balls on a platter and I'd be surprised if no-one else thought the same.

[Jason.]

:hehe:

Harry gets less slack than marc when she can be just as horrible tbh but because she is going against a male she gets away with it.

And Harry gets a lot of flack because she questioned Sam and is therefore exposed to being called offensive terms such as "skank" and "slut". When if that was Danny and Joel doing it, nobody would bat an eyelid.

[Beetlejuice]

The fact is, if he had spoken to my sisters, or any female in my family the way he has spoken to the women in there, I'd be going insane and wanting his balls on a platter and I'd be surprised if no-one else thought the same.

The fact is if he behaved like that where there were no cameras he'd have been knocked unconscious by now.

[Kazanne]

:hehe:

Harry gets less slack than marc when she can be just as horrible tbh but because she is going against a male she gets away with it.

Harry has the advantage of having tits and displaying them,Marc cant compete with that and its a must for some!!:hehe:

[Kazanne]

The fact is if he behaved like that where there were no cameras he'd have been knocked unconscious by now.

:joker::joker::joker: so you are worse than you claim he is:joker::joker::joker:and a coward,why wait till no cameras about?

[Liam-]

Harry has the advantage of having tits and displaying them,Marc cant compete with that and its a must for some!!:hehe:

Again, tits don't interest me, but keep trying to discredit people's support of Harry by all means if it makes you feel better about supporting Marc :hehe:

[Tarryn]

Harry has the advantage of having tits and displaying them,Marc cant compete with that and its a must for some!!:hehe:

No, he just covers his private parts in baking foil !
Really normal behaviour for a grown man (!).
I'm not defending Harry but come on, Marc is disgusting human being with a vile mouth.
Any other HM in BB history would have been ejected by now.

[Josy]

That's like criticizing a man being punched repeatedly for knocking the person out who did it.



It's all said in reaction to his bullying behaviour towards her. Which you continue to either deny or justify.




Yes, because he's a man. Men and women are different. Men are more physically intimidating, stronger and far more likely to cause serious damage to a person.

It's not like saying that that no, it's saying exactly what I posted..

I don't justify any bullying behaviour because there is none and the people in charge at BB obviously agree or there would have been a warning given out for 'bullying', what I can see is two housemates that are equally as horrible to and about each other yet one is getting accused of bullying because he is male and the other has their behaviour excuse because she's female.

:hehe:

Harry gets less slack than marc when she can be just as horrible tbh but because she is going against a male she gets away with it.

True.

[Beso]

He never said anything racist :umm2:

oh yes he did.

He called her dirty and a pig just before warning her to keep her dirty knacker mouth shut.

Go ask your irish friends what a knacker is.

[Beetlejuice]

I dont believe he is bullying her, in the situation of the so called "masterbationgate" I think he singled her out when others were involved (Danny and Christian), but I don't think it is bullying.

So there's one example. Another example is the way he was laughing when he thought the wish he was reading out was Danny's and it turned out to be Harry's. He has also repeatedly called her a pig, thick, dangerous, stinking and smelly. This is not coming from a man who likes her and is bantering with her, it comes from a man who pretty much controls the whole house and who has made it clear he would destroy her if he could.


She has been a bitch to him as well. I don't particularly care for either one and I think both are as bad as one another. The sooner the both go the better so we can finally have less off 90% Marc and Harry show on highlights.

How has she been bad? Has she received multiple warnings? Did she almost start a fight on the first night? Has she had people repeatedly tell her to stop with the sexually explicit comments? Almost everything she has said about Marc or to him has been in response to his behaviour which has been on display since the moment he stepped into the house. Yet, somehow she's as bad as him? This is ridiculous.

[Kazanne]

Again, tits don't interest me, but keep trying to discredit people's support of Harry by all means if it makes you feel better about supporting Marc :hehe:

I wasn't directing it at you,just some people in general,dont be so sensitive,You can love harry all you want,but we can still comment on her

[Pete.]

oh yes he did.

He called her dirty and a pig just before warning her to keep her dirty knacker mouth shut.

Go ask your irish friends what a knacker is.
Spill?

[LukeB]

oh yes he did.

He called her dirty and a pig just before warning her to keep her dirty knacker mouth shut.

Go ask your irish friends what a knacker is.

That's xenophobia
Harry also used marc's nationality for an insult so there you go both are bad as each other

[Beetlejuice]

knacker
Irish term of affection for general scum (low lifes). Originally originating from a term of reference for travellers. But nowadays covering whole spectrum of degenerates. Inbreeding is commonplace and your mother can often be your sister.

[Beso]

That's xenophobia
Harry also used marc's nationality for an insult so there you go both are bad as each other

no it's a racist slur as it has connectations that he thinks and classes all gypsys as dirty.

[Beso]

sooooo.
the racist slur
threatening to kill danny
cum bucket
fat pig
baggy fanny
tossing hms about
waving cock at hms


have i missed anything?

[Tarryn]

sooooo.
the racist slur
threatening to kill danny
cum bucket
fat pig
baggy fanny
tossing hms about
waving cock at hms


have i missed anything?

I know, it makes Aaron being ejected look almost trivial.
BB's double standards are beyond words.

[sampvt]

Again, tits don't interest me, but keep trying to discredit people's support of Harry by all means if it makes you feel better about supporting Marc :hehe:

Hey Liam....I don't like her either, she is a slag and a dangerous lowlife with no morals and the social values of a tramp, do you wanna have a go at me now, or do you class me as a bully as well. grow up and smell the coffee, she is a tart and Marc is taking her to the school of slapped arses and she don't like it that's why she constantly vents and stabs him in the back. Hardly a recipe for a nice girl is it, or are you just picking her to have someone to champion and wind people up with.

[Pete.]

sooooo.
the racist slur
threatening to kill danny
cum bucket
fat pig
baggy fanny
tossing hms about
waving cock at hms


have i missed anything?
Chloe's STD test

[Liam-]

Hey Liam....I don't like her either, she is a slag and a dangerous lowlife with no morals and the social values of a tramp, do you wanna have a go at me now, or do you class me as a bully as well. grow up and smell the coffee, she is a tart and Marc is taking her to the school of slapped arses and she don't like it that's why she constantly vents and stabs him in the back. Hardly a recipe for a nice girl is it, or are you just picking her to have someone to champion and wind people up with.

A. I didn't have a go at anyone
B. Please drop the attitude
C. I don't favour people just to 'wind people up'
D. Why would I class you as a bully? idgi

[Tarryn]

Hey Liam....I don't like her either, she is a slag and a dangerous lowlife with no morals and the social values of a tramp, do you wanna have a go at me now, or do you class me as a bully as well. grow up and smell the coffee, she is a tart and Marc is taking her to the school of slapped arses and she don't like it that's why she constantly vents and stabs him in the back. Hardly a recipe for a nice girl is it, or are you just picking her to have someone to champion and wind people up with.

But you don't have to like Harry to see just how bad Marc's behaviour is.
He is not "Taking her to school" but saying disgusting & vile things that no sane person would ever utter.
Harry is allowed to answer back to him. Why should she just take whatever he has to say to her.
The other HM's are terrified of Marc. They just sit there hoping he does not start on them. Take Danny for example, stood up to him on the first night but since then has stood back & let Marc take over the house. He is spineless.
He could have played it so much better by really standing up to him. But he is too scared.
Harry is not scared of Marc, & he knows this.
Which is why he wants her out.

[Rorkimaru]

whilst in an agitated state and whilst calling her dirty etc, he also told her she was a dirty knacker...which is another word for gypsy in ireland.


So yes, that was, in this instance, a racist comment....but keep sweeping these things under the carpet cause he is soooooooooooooooo entertaining.:sleep:

the racist bit is fact.

oh yes he did.

He called her dirty and a pig just before warning her to keep her dirty knacker mouth shut.

Go ask your irish friends what a knacker is.

no it's a racist slur as it has connectations that he thinks and classes all gypsys as dirty.

Irish here, from roughly the region Mark is from. It is not a racist term here. It has racial origins but hasn't had racist connotations in common usage for over a decade. Personally I avoid the word because of it's history but Mark's usage had absolutely no racial connotations. The word literally doesn't mean member of the traveling community to him, or me.

[Beso]

Irish here, from roughly the region Mark is from. It is not a racist term here. It has racial origins but hasn't had racist connotations in common usage for over a decade. Personally I avoid the word because of it's history but Mark's usage had absolutely no racial connotations. The word literally doesn't mean member of the traveling community to him, or me.

you may paint it up however you want, you wont change my mind..it was a racist remark, and i was offended.

[jennyjuniper]

No I don't believe so. They are both antagonistic. Marc's shows in snide remarks usually to her face, whereas Harry's snide remarks are to other people.
To me bullying is when the person being bullied is afraid of the other person or persons, but Harry shows no sign of this. On the contrary a couple of times lately she has tried to instigate a quarrel. If she is isolated, much of it is her own doing.

[Rorkimaru]

you may paint it up however you want, you wont change my mind..it was a racist remark, and i was offended.

You can be offended all you like but that doesn't make it racist. I'm a 5 minute drive from where Mark grew up. I know what the language means and regardless of whether or not you're getting offended by it, it wasn't racist.

If you want to discuss a racist comment how about Harry calling him an Irish *****. Do you think she meant anything other than Irish when she was using the word to augment that insult? If you're offended by racism be offended by that.

[Amy Jade]

Yes 100%

[Beso]

You can be offended all you like but that doesn't make it racist. I'm a 5 minute drive from where Mark grew up. I know what the language means and regardless of whether or not you're getting offended by it, it wasn't racist.

If you want to discuss a racist comment how about Harry calling him an Irish *****. Do you think she meant anything other than Irish when she was using the word to augment that insult? If you're offended by racism be offended by that.

On another thread you concede that people still use it to refer to gypsy's...like marc was.

[Amy Jade]

parmnion :worship:

[Beetlejuice]

Hey Liam....I don't like her either, she is a slag and a dangerous lowlife with no morals and the social values of a tramp, do you wanna have a go at me now, or do you class me as a bully as well.

If you were repeatedly saying that to her or about her whilst living with her and getting others to join in, then yes, you'd be a bully. Saying it on an internet forum is slightly different. Obviously.


grow up and smell the coffee, she is a tart and Marc is taking her to the school of slapped arses.

If there's a case to be made against her, then make the case. Calling someone a pig, bitch, disgusting, creature, smelly and stinking is just awful behaviour towards another person who you as well as others have to live with. It is utterly selfish and nasty.

[Beetlejuice]

No I don't believe so. They are both antagonistic. Marc's shows in snide remarks usually to her face, whereas Harry's snide remarks are to other people.
To me bullying is when the person being bullied is afraid of the other person or persons, but Harry shows no sign of this.

By that logic, a fearless person might be overpowered by another and have his head shoved down a toilet. Is it not bullying because they at no point were scared?


On the contrary a couple of times lately she has tried to instigate a quarrel. If she is isolated, much of it is her own doing.


Blaming the victim. Well played Marc. Producer's Pet. Got the house and the viewers wrapped around your little finger.

[Tarryn]

So if Harry deserves the abuse she get's from Marc because she is a tart or slut then why is Marc not doing the same to Jade ?.
Jade openly admits to putting it about.

[Robodog]

He's def not bullying her.

He rips the p*ss out of everyone in there equally, he just dislikes Harry more than others.

I wasn't sure why he disliked her, until I saw her angry rant with Nick, saying Marc should be scared of her etc.

Then I realised there was a very angry Harry hiding behind the flimsy one-week mask of a super-friendly Harry. So Marc was right to notice that and fair enough he took a dislike to her fake friendliness.

Like Marc said, he'd just keep away her in real life, but in BB you cannot run. Especially when everyday there are BB tasks designed to cause conflict.

As usual - if anyone's the bullying sh*t stirrer - it's BB !

The fact BB even chose characters like Marc and Harry as the new HMs shows that they want this type of conflict for the show!And here it is !

.

[Margarine.]

lmao this forum is hilarious at times :joker:

the answer to this question is no

[andybigbro]

No it's not bullying. They just don't get along.

That word gets fired far too much, people don't like each other and they argue. They have both insulted each other using very harsh words.

[LukeB]

No it's not bullying. They just don't get along.

That word gets fired far too much, people don't like each other and they argue. They have both insulted each other using very harsh words.

Yeah this

I have got bullied myself and I don't see Marc as a bully.

[Beetlejuice]

He's def not bullying her.

He rips the p*ss out of everyone in there equally, he just dislikes Harry more than others.

There's clearly a big difference between the banter and the insulting remarks he dishes out towards/about Harry.

I wasn't sure why he disliked her, until I saw her angry rant with Nick, saying Marc should be scared of her etc.

Said in response to the way he has been treating her. It's amazing isn't it. A person who is responding to a situation created by the bully boy is the one to blame for everything.

Then I realised there was a very angry Harry hiding behind the flimsy one-week mask of a super-friendly Harry. So Marc was right to notice that and fair enough he took a dislike to her fake friendliness.

Why shouldn't she be angry when a man is repeatedly calling her ugly, a pig, smelly, stinking, disgusting, dangerous etc... Would you be happy with that? If someone did that to a friend of mine I'd thump him.

Like Marc said, he'd just keep away her in real life, but in BB you cannot run. Especially when everyday there are BB tasks designed to cause conflict.

As usual - if anyone's the bullying sh*t stirrer - it's BB !

The fact BB even chose characters like Marc and Harry as the new HMs shows that they want this type of conflict for the show!And here it is !
.

The fact BB is now a place for bullies to triumph is just another nail in its coffin.

[Kazanne]

There's clearly a big difference between the banter and the insulting remarks he dishes out towards/about Harry.



Said in response to the way he has been treating her. It's amazing isn't it. A person who is responding to a situation created by the bully boy is the one to blame for everything.



Why shouldn't she be angry when a man is repeatedly calling her ugly, a pig, smell, stinking, disgusting, dangerous etc... Would you be happy with that?



The fact BB is now a place for bullies to triumph is just another nail in its coffin.

So why are you watching then? If you think its so terrible switch off,which I am sure you said you had done a while ago:laugh:

[Rorkimaru]

On another thread you concede that people still use it to refer to gypsy's...like marc was.

In the other thread I was told that people at the far end of the country still use it in that context but I'm not talking about the opposite side of Ireland, I'm talking about a couple of minutes down the road which I know fairly well. There's a fair difference in colloquial language between Dublin and Cork.

[Beetlejuice]

So why are you watching then? If you think its so terrible switch off,which I am sure you said you had done a while ago:laugh:

Oh FFS... Can you actually debate a point? Instead of going on about people switching off because they don't like something.

[Livia]

I think whatever's happening, Harry can take care of herself. Anyway, sick of the word "bully" this season, it's been bandied about more than ever.

[Beetlejuice]

I think whatever's happening, Harry can take care of herself. Anyway, sick of the word "bully" this season, it's been bandied about more than ever.

It hasn't been. Only about one housemate. Who is so concerned about being seen that way he's covered his own ass by trying to make out Harry will make him look like a bully, when it's perfectly clear he's done that himself. To some of us anyway.

[Livia]

Harry gives as good as she gets.

[Kazanne]

Oh FFS... Can you actually debate a point? Instead of going on about people switching off because they don't like something.

Oh,lol,getting angry :nono:,we've done the debating ,Marc is NOT bullying anyone,this thread is going round in circles,it makes sense to switch something off if you don't like it.:hehe:

[Beso]

In the other thread I was told that people at the far end of the country still use it in that context but I'm not talking about the opposite side of Ireland, I'm talking about a couple of minutes down the road which I know fairly well. There's a fair difference in colloquial language between Dublin and Cork.

thats like saying people in newcastle can use the n word while people further south cant.

[rionablue]

I cant stand Marc and I don't like Harry either (disappointed in her as I liked her when she came into the house). However Marc isn't BULLYING anyone. When Marc came into the house first everyone hated him specially Jade as she said she knew him in Dublin and he was a creep. In a few short days he had her turned around and has continued to work the house since then. Danny had a right go at him the first night and a few times that first week now he is eating out of his hand.

In the past two weeks since Marc entered the house the only person who has truly stood up to him is Harry. THATS why Marc hates her. He wants to own the house and to be honest he had been doing a mega job in it. I love Jade but I was disappointed how she did a 360 degree turnaround on her opinion of him. He ramrodded the whole house and took everything to excess with his ABSOLUTELY AWFUL language specially the sexual content, his prancing around the house naked, his disruption of tasks etc. He never expected that Harry would call him out over anything. Now he is turning all his little followers into Harry bashers. He will work his way through them all. Already he he has the other two newbies Sam and Simon in his lair. I am definitely not a Harry fan but she integrated with the other housemates since night one and that's why its the other three newbies are up for the FAKE eviction. Marc is possibly one of the vilest contestants I have ever seen on BB and HE WONT BE TURNING ME like he did the others. Vile and horrible and I wish with all my heart he was truly being evicted. Now he will have a huge advantage of having the three witches (former housemates) on side and will most possibly avoid real eviction for another two weeks !!!!!!

[Amy Jade]

whilst in an agitated state and whilst calling her dirty etc, he also told her she was a dirty knacker...which is another word for gypsy in ireland.


So yes, that was, in this instance, a racist comment....but keep sweeping these things under the carpet cause he is soooooooooooooooo entertaining.:sleep:
:fan:

[LukeB]

I think whatever's happening, Harry can take care of herself. Anyway, sick of the word "bully" this season, it's been bandied about more than ever.

This is why Off-Season is great

[Amy Jade]

Oh,lol,getting angry :nono:,we've done the debating ,Marc is NOT bullying anyone,this thread is going round in circles,it makes sense to switch something off if you don't like it.:hehe:

Works both ways Kaz, if you don't like Harry's choice to walk around topless turn off.

[Vicky.]

Nope. They were as bad as each other.

At this stage though it really does seem hes trying to not have contact with her at all whenever possible. Now it seems its her with the problem. As she can't get a rise out of him, shes starting on Sam again

[Amy Jade]

Nope. They were as bad as each other.

At this stage though it really does seem hes trying to not have contact with her at all whenever possible. Now it seems its her with the problem. As she can't get a rise out of him, shes starting on Sam again

He's not avoiding her and he talks about her constantly when she's not in the room.

Hardly avoiding her lol

[Kazanne]

Works both ways Kaz, if you don't like Harry's choice to walk around topless turn off.

Difference is I never said I was not going to watch,Beetlejuice did:laugh: I also didn't say I didn't like her walking round topless,I said there was no need and there isn't,but I really cant be arsed with debating about her being naked again,it's been done to death.

[Ellen]

Nope. They were as bad as each other.

At this stage though it really does seem hes trying to not have contact with her at all whenever possible. Now it seems its her with the problem. As she can't get a rise out of him, shes starting on Sam again

This ^^^
He is keeping away from her as much as possible but she is the one who is keeping it going.

[Beetlejuice]

Oh,lol,getting angry :nono:,we've done the debating ,Marc is NOT bullying anyone

Yes, he is.


this thread is going round in circles,it makes sense to switch something off if you don't like it.:hehe:

No, it makes sense to be critical of it.

[Beetlejuice]

This ^^^
He is keeping away from her as much as possible but she is the one who is keeping it going.

He is the one referring to her as a pig, smelly, stinking etc... Mocking her looks with Sam

[Vicky.]

He's not avoiding her and he talks about her constantly when she's not in the room.

Hardly avoiding her lol

She talks about him more, and he does avoid contact with her...which she asked for btw

[Robodog]

BB encourages conflict.

BB is also guilty of double standards - warning HMs for causing upset, while designing tasks for HMs that deliberately create upset. Ejecting HMs for indecent exposure then replacing 'dull' HMs with ones that regularly expose themselves.

But here we all are - still watching!

I'm surprised that so many viewers still haven't realised the nature and patterns of BB and cry 'bully' every time BB does it's job of racking up the tension.

I don't get why certain people watch the show if they hate this type of conflict so much?

I hate horror films - so I never watch them. I don't watch them and then act all surprised and blog about how gory they are.

If you don't like water - keep away from the beach!

[Rorkimaru]

thats like saying people in newcastle can use the n word while people further south cant.

Not exactly, it's saying that context and meaning is more important than an arrangement of letters. Racism comes from intent rather than the actual word. It is theoretically possible for the n word to be said by a white person in a non racist context if their upbringing supports that but I've never heard of it being used non racially as a negative.

I'm also not saying its ok for Mark to use that word. As I've said before, I don't use it. I'm just explaining that it isn't racial in context the way he used it. He wasn't being racist. He was using an ugly word but he wasn't being racist.

[Josy]

Nope. They were as bad as each other.

At this stage though it really does seem hes trying to not have contact with her at all whenever possible. Now it seems its her with the problem. As she can't get a rise out of him, shes starting on Sam again

Exactly.

Even the housemates have been commenting that Marc is trying to stay away from her, and Nick even mentioned that Harry's dislike for Marc has now turned into a vendetta..

[Amy Jade]

Exactly.

Even the housemates have been commenting that Marc is trying to stay away from her, and Nick even mentioned that Harry's dislike for Marc has now turned into a vendetta..

Marc's hasnt?

Let's count the housemates Harry has slagged Marc off to, just in the last week.

1. Nick

Now lets count how many Marc has slagged Harry off to.

1. Spam
2. Danny
3. Jade
4. Joel
5. Cristian

Yeah Harry's the obsessed one lol

[joeysteele]

No way is he bullying her.
She is in any case,well able to stand up for herself and is doing so too.