How to deal with shoplifters

[Crimson Dynamo]

I am going to bet he does not shoplift in there again, punk.


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[JoshBB]

No LT, that is harassment and gross.

Theres a reason we have courts and fair trials, you can't take it upon yourself to go and hit and threaten your customers.. not acceptable at all. Can't believe you are supporting this man. It may also be worth thinking why he needed to steal food in the first place.

[Livia]

No LT, that is harassment and gross.

Theres a reason we have courts and fair trials, you can't take it upon yourself to go and hit and threaten your customers.. not acceptable at all. Can't believe you are supporting this man. It may also be worth thinking why he needed to steal food in the first place.

It may be worth you thinking how much stock small shops like that lose every year to petty thieves. But no, you assume that in a country where people are paid benefits we have to condone people stealing? I don't think so.

[JoshBB]

It may be worth you thinking how much stock small shops like that lose every year to petty thieves. But no, you assume that in a country where people are paid benefits we have to condone people stealing? I don't think so.

I didn't say thieving was okay. I was making the point that if the scenario mentioned was the case then this whole harassment and hitting thing would be even more unjustified. My main point was the bit you ignored, by the way.

[Crimson Dynamo]

he got what he deserved

better that than calling the cops and wasting their time

[smudgie]

Ouch!

sometimes a quick sharp shock does the trick.
Saves wasting police time and court costs.
My main worry is if it goes too far.

[Pete.]

Set Helen on them

[JoshBB]

'saves wasting police time'

You guys do realise, that they are literally paid to sort out things like this.. it's like saying you'll put a fire out by spitting on it because you don't want to call the firemen.

[Samuel.]

Yeahhh I can't support this either

[Liam-]

I suppose dealing with it yourself like that saves the police some time to deal with other issues?

[LukeB]

'saves wasting police time'

You guys do realise, that they are literally paid to sort out things like this.. it's like saying you'll put a fire out by spitting on it because you don't want to call the firemen.

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That's what police are for!

[smudgie]

I suppose dealing with it yourself like that saves the police some time to deal with other issues?

Exactly.
It also saves him getting a police record, so win win.

[JoshBB]

Exactly.
It also saves him getting a police record, so win win.

A police record which is supposed to track crimes for public safety...

[Crimson Dynamo]

The guy has no time to waste getting the cops, he runs a business and he knows the cops cant do owt with low lever crime like this

[Cherie]

Even though he was shoplifting, he could do the shop guy for assault, was there any need for repeatedly belting him :umm2:

[Amy Jade]

I find that disturbing and the fact there was a little girl there while the shop keeper screams, swears and attacks a person is awful.

It's not a million miles away from those places where people are murdered for being caught stealing, what's the point in the police if this is allowed?

[JoshBB]

The people on here worry me sometimes.

[Liam-]

The people on here worry me sometimes.

Why because they have differing opinions to you?

What would the police do? pick the guy up, give him a slap on the wrist and let him free to go and do it again probably, this guy gave him an actual slap and more than likely deterred him from doing that again, or at least, stopped him doing it in his shop.

[JoshBB]

Why because they have differing opinions to you?

What would the police do? pick the guy up, give him a slap on the wrist and let him free to go and do it again probably, this guy gave him an actual slap and more than likely deterred him from doing that again, or at least, stopped him doing it in his shop.

No because they're literally justifying a guy being verbally and physically harassed.

[Liam-]

Not just a guy, a thief stealing from someone's livelihood.

[Shaun]

/ how to be a douche

[JoshBB]

Not just a guy, a thief stealing from someone's livelihood.

So that gives the shopowner permission to harass him?

[Liam-]

So that gives the shopowner permission to harass him?

Do i think it's the right thing for him to be doing? not particularly, do i blame him for being angry enough to do so? no, neither will i hold it against him or persecute him for it

[JoshBB]

Do i think it's the right thing for him to be doing? not particularly, do i blame him for being angry enough to do so? no, neither will i hold it against him or persecute him for it

The reason we have police is to deal with things like this. He could have easily gave them a call. I think the shopkeeper has actually made himself look worse in the video by doing what he did

[LukeB]

They are other ways to deal with a shoplifter, this video made me feel sick! Violence is disgusting. The shopkeeper totally went over the top, should have took the things back either take him outside the shop and remember his face for next time or take him in the back and call the police(which most people do) Police are paid for this and it's not wasting their time.

[Liam-]

The reason we have police is to deal with things like this. He could have easily gave them a call. I think the shopkeeper has actually made himself look worse in the video by doing what he did

It was only a couple of slaps, he probably could have done worse.

[GiRTh]

I hope the shoplifter got a few friends and paid another visit to this twat. People need to learn to keep their hands to themselves.

[JoshBB]

It was only a couple of slaps, he probably could have done worse.

Doesn't mean anything. Just because he 'could have done more' doesn't excuse it.

[LukeB]

They are other ways to deal with a shoplifter, this video made me feel sick! Violence is disgusting. The shopkeeper totally went over the top, should have took the things back either take him outside the shop and remember his face for next time or take him in the back and call the police(which most people do) Police are paid for this and it's not wasting their time.

and another point stealing is still illegal and it's not like it takes the whole police team to deal with a shoplifter.

[Liam-]

I hope the shoplifter got a few friends and paid another visit to this twat. People need to learn to keep their hands to themselves.

Tell that to the shoplifters

[YourLAEx]

If anyone broke into my shop (if I owned a shop) they would get a lot more than a slap

[GiRTh]

Tell that to the shopliftersWe have a very sophisticated judicial system to deal lwtih shoplifters but this fool thinks he can slap people around eh?. Nah not for me I hope they came back with a few baseball bats and showed this twat that justice works both ways.

[jennyjuniper]

No LT, that is harassment and gross.

Theres a reason we have courts and fair trials, you can't take it upon yourself to go and hit and threaten your customers.. not acceptable at all. Can't believe you are supporting this man. It may also be worth thinking why he needed to steal food in the first place.

I absolutely don't agree with shoplifting, neither do I agree with the shopowner thinking he has the right to slap someone around as he did. I hope the guy went to the cops, although I suppose he didn't.

[LukeB]

I absolutely don't agree with shoplifting, neither do I agree with the shopowner thinking he has the right to slap someone around as he did. I hope the guy went to the cops, although I suppose he didn't.

ignore what i said, my phone is dodgy

[Liam-]

We have a very sophisticated judicial system to deal lwtih shoplifters but this fool thinks he can slap people around eh?. Nah not for me I hope they came back with a few baseball bats and showed this twat that justice works both ways.

So you want to, punish someone who gave someone that tried to steal money from their family a slap, by wishing said thief, went back to the store in question, to cause more damage, with weapons? I mean, a slap doesn't equate to a gang assault, especially when the slap was given to someone trying to steal from a persons business, that's kind of messed up.

[GiRTh]

So you want to, punish someone who gave someone that tried to steal money from their family a slap, by wishing said thief, went back to the store in question, to cause more damage, with weapons? I mean, a slap doesn't equate to a gang assault, especially when the slap was given to someone trying to steal from a persons business, that's kind of messed up.{Maybe a few molotovs and torch the place.

Thats what happens when you raise your hand to someone where I come from.

[Ninastar]

as much as I think thieving twats should get what they deserve, I did find this uncomfortable to watch... but having said that, I'd probably do the same if I found someone stealing from my shop that I worked hard to look after

[Liam-]

{Maybe a few molotovs and torch the place.

Thats what happens when you raise your hand to someone where I come from.

And where are you from?

[GiRTh]

Then this discussion is over, i don't debate with hypocrites :hee:

Or maybe the store owner calls the police and let them handle it.

I'm making the point that youdont raise your hand to some cuz you dont know who that person is or who they night know. This twat need to learn this lesson before he slaps somone and regrets it,

[Crimson Dynamo]

Why because they have differing opinions to you?

What would the police do? pick the guy up, give him a slap on the wrist and let him free to go and do it again probably, this guy gave him an actual slap and more than likely deterred him from doing that again, or at least, stopped him doing it in his shop.

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more common sense from Liam

[GiRTh]

And where are you from?The same place as you.

[Liam-]

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more common sense from Liam

Thank you Mr LT :flutter:

The same place as you.

Cardiff? that's not how things work here I'm afraid

[Crimson Dynamo]

this is the real world

[GiRTh]

this is the real world:laugh2: In the real world this store keeper gets a visit the next day and regrets ever raising his hands to that person and call the police from now on when there is a shoplifter in his shop.

[Liam-]

If someone broke into your house and tried to steal something you've worked hard for, would you sit in a corner, let it happen and wait until they had left to phone the police? because i wouldn't, i'd try to stop them.

Police action or prison doesn't teach people a lesson, we're so soft in this country, shoplifting might not be the most series crime in the world, but it's one of the most common and most cost worthy to businesses and families, just imagine how many times someone has stolen from that guys shop, or attempted it, no he shouldn't have slapped him, but did the guy deserve it for so obnoxiously trying to knock someone of a portion of their living? yes, he probably should have stopped after the first slap, but I'm not going to call him all the names under the sun for reacting angrily to a thief and I make no apologies for having that opinion.

[GiRTh]

If someone broke into your house and tried to steal something you've worked hard for, would you sit in a corner, let it happen and wait until they had left to phone the police? because i wouldn't, i'd try to stop them.

Police action or prison doesn't teach people a lesson, we're so soft in this country, shoplifting might not be the most series crime in the world, but it's one of the most common and most cost worthy to businesses and families, just imagine how many times someone has stolen from that guys shop, or attempted it, no he shouldn't have slapped him, but did the guy deserve it for so obnoxiously trying to knock someone of a portion of their living? yes, he probably should have stopped after the first slap, but I'm not going to call him all the names under the sun for reacting angrily to a thief and I make no apologies for having that opinion.
Carry on like that and you'll be taught a lesson that the police are not the only people with weapons

[Liam-]

Carry on like that and you'll be taught a lesson that the police are not the only people with weapons

Again, you're suggesting teaching someone a lesson with weapons and extreme violence, for slapping someone who was trying to steal from their shop, that does not make sense

'Stop being a thug or we'll knock your teeth out with a bat and destroy your shop' a good argument does not make

[GiRTh]

My point in this thread is that this kind of behavior may cause the store owner more problem than he ever imagined. HE should stick to the authority cuz Violence only leads to more violence and not everyone has the stomach for it.

[Liam-]

Whereas a thief should be dealt with via a slap on the wrist and a telling off not to do it again?

[Crimson Dynamo]

:laugh2: In the real world this store keeper gets a visit the next day and regrets ever raising his hands to that person and call the police from now on when there is a shoplifter in his shop.

no

that perp never goes near his shop

storekeeper wins

real life

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love it

[GiRTh]

Whereas a thief should be dealt with via a slap on the wrist and a telling off not to do it again?Take that up with your local MP. There is always an alternative to violence.

[Crimson Dynamo]

My point in this thread is that this kind of behavior may cause the store owner more problem than he ever imagined. HE should stick to the authority cuz Violence only leads to more violence and not everyone has the stomach for it.

nawt girth defending law and order


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[GiRTh]

no

that perp never goes near his shop

storekeeper wins

real life

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love itOK but my local shop has been stuck up a few times and they like to get aggressive with shoplifters too. Doesnt seem to have deterred them does it.

[LukeB]

My point in this thread is that this kind of behavior may cause the store owner more problem than he ever imagined. HE should stick to the authority cuz Violence only leads to more violence and not everyone has the stomach for it.

this I agree on, I would let the police deal with it no point wasting your energy slapping them and looking worse(the shopkeeper made me feel sick slapping him, he came across the worst and scum) or just take the things back and send him out without hurting him.

[GiRTh]

nawt girth defending law and order


:laugh2:LMAO so do you slap people around if you see them misbehaving then? Please provide proof.:joker:

[armand.kay]

well done to the shop keeper imo :clap1:

[Crimson Dynamo]

LMAO so do you slap people around if you see them misbehaving then? Please provide proof.:joker:

misbehaving?

do you mean stealing a mans livelihood?

[Liam-]

well done to the shop keeper imo :clap1:

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[GiRTh]

misbehaving?

do you mean stealing a mans livelihood?Just answer the question. THis the bit where we go round and round and you change the subject. Been here too many times. :thumbs:

[Liam-]

Just answer the question. THis the bit where we go round and round and you change the subject. Been here too many times. :thumbs:

There's a difference between 'misbehaving' and practically stealing food out of a families mouth

[GiRTh]

OK let me rephrase the question seeing as some of you dont want to answer it - Do you slap people around when you see them 'breaking the law' ? And please provide proof.

[Liam-]

That's much better :hee:

No I personally don't, but i don't begrudge other people doing it if it involves them.

[GiRTh]

That's much better :hee:

No I personally don't, but i don't begrudge other people doing it if it involves them.Why not? And why is it ok for someone else to do it but you choose not to?

[Liam-]

I'm not a violent person, that doesn't mean i can't appreciate when someone else needs a slap and some people just do.

[armand.kay]

Imagine how much money the owner looses from vermin like him coming in all the time and nicking stuff he's probably sick off it. Its not even like the guy stole one chocolate bar, he clearly had the bag filled with stuff.
He then had the nerve to wait and ask for his bag back ugh. :bored:

[MTVN]

Yes it's the police's job to solve stuff like this, but it's also no secret that our police are often massively overstretched and that its not going to be high up on their list of priorities. Would probably never get thoroughly looked into. The guy did go overboard but then it was an assault on his livelihood - like he alludes to it's not a Tesco or a Sainsburys where they could afford a few stolen items. I do feel sorry for the shoplifter though, but if we can sympathise with him surely we can also sympathise with the guy who was being robbed which is probably a very real threat to his business every day

[Ammi]

...this seems slightly 'set up' to me..he was obscured from the CCTV camera behind a shelf and he pulled the guy to the front of the shop where it was on CCTV and then posted it to go viral..?...it wasn't self defence/I thought that it's the police who decide whether to charge, not necessarily someone else pressing charges...?...

[joeysteele]

'saves wasting police time'

You guys do realise, that they are literally paid to sort out things like this.. it's like saying you'll put a fire out by spitting on it because you don't want to call the firemen.

I agree.
It is what the Police are for, we keep getting told that crime is dropping in the UK, if more shopkeepers did things like this then even more crime would not be possibly made known, despite it happening.

Although from what I see in some shops and Stores,sometimes I wonder who is really robbing who,a shoplifter or the Shop/Store robbing the customer sometimes.

[GiRTh]

I agree.
It is what the Police are for, we keep getting told that crime is dropping in the UK, if more shopkeepers did things like this then even more crime would not be possibly made known, despite it happening.

Although from what I see in some shops and Stores,sometimes I wonder who is really robbing who,a shoplifter or the Shop/Store robbing the customer sometimes.:thumbs:

[Liam-]

Imagine how much money the owner looses from vermin like him coming in all the time and nicking stuff he's probably sick off it. Its not even like the guy stole one chocolate bar, he clearly had the bag filled with stuff.
He then had the nerve to wait and ask for his bag back ugh. :bored:

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[Cherie]

Yes it's the police's job to solve stuff like this, but it's also no secret that our police are often massively overstretched and that its not going to be high up on their list of priorities. Would probably never get thoroughly looked into. The guy did go overboard but then it was an assault on his livelihood - like he alludes to it's not a Tesco or a Sainsburys where they could afford a few stolen items. I do feel sorry for the shoplifter though, but if we can sympathise with him surely we can also sympathise with the guy who was being robbed which is probably a very real threat to his business every day

I don't know because he came across more like a gangland criminal than a shop keeper, he was probably just visiting the shop to pick up his protection money :hee:

[LukeB]

I agree.
It is what the Police are for, we keep getting told that crime is dropping in the UK, if more shopkeepers did things like this then even more crime would not be possibly made known, despite it happening.

Although from what I see in some shops and Stores,sometimes I wonder who is really robbing who,a shoplifter or the Shop/Store robbing the customer sometimes.

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[GiRTh]

I don't know because he came across more like a gangland criminal than a shop keeper, he was probably just visiting the shop to pick up his protection money :hee:
Agree with that. The store keeper knew what to do he slapped him very hard with both hands. That guys done that before he of all people should know what might happen if he raised his hand to the wrong person.

[Liam-]

Lmao, the shop keeper is a mobster now? lord have mercy :joker:

[GiRTh]

Lmao, the shop keeper is a mobster now? lord have mercy :joker:Who said that? Surely you can tell if someone can handle them self in a fight and I reckon that store keeper definitely can. No one is saying anything else.

[Ammi]

..maybe it was set up and posted on the internet to deter people from stealing from that shop..?..

[armand.kay]

..maybe it was set up and posted on the internet to deter people from stealing from that shop..?..

if it is then the shop keeper is a good m8 letting himself get slapped into next Wednesday :laugh:

[MTVN]

..maybe it was set up and posted on the internet to deter people from stealing from that shop..?..

I don't know, I wouldn't want to play the part of the shoplifter if so

[Ammi]

...then surely he wouldn't be some sort of 'protection' type person because he pulled him in front of the CCTV to hit him and then who posted the vid...now that it is something being talked about then surely the shopkeeper will be charged by the police anyway...

[bots]

the problem is that the next time the shoplifter goes to take stuff from a shop he will go armed with a knife, and someone will get seriously hurt.

Police cant be bothered with that stuff so the best thing is to report it to the police, get a crime number, claim the insurance and move on

[Ammi]

the problem is that the next time the shoplifter goes to take stuff from a shop he will go armed with a knife, and someone will get seriously hurt.
Police cant be bothered with that stuff so the best thing is to report it to the police, get a crime number, claim the insurance and move on

..yeah that worries me with this as well, that he may have well just posted the vid as a 'challenge' to any thief/thieves who know the shop...and that's also the thing with deciding 'your own law'....

[Black Dagger]

Well this is gross

[Suze]

I agree.
It is what the Police are for, we keep getting told that crime is dropping in the UK, if more shopkeepers did things like this then even more crime would not be possibly made known, despite it happening.

Although from what I see in some shops and Stores,sometimes I wonder who is really robbing who,a shoplifter or the Shop/Store robbing the customer sometimes.


I agree with your post Joey.

What the shoplifter did was of course wrong, but imo the slapping from the shopowner/shop worker was way worse, the fact that he carried on after the first slap was very disturbing to watch and some of the threats he was making, he seemed to have his own issues.

[Samuel.]

Not just a guy, a thief stealing from someone's livelihood.

No actually, he is just a guy. Being a complete lawbreaking ****, but just a guy nonetheless.

This is exactly what I hate about this country. Someone commits a crime, they're thrown into the criminal category, instantly dehumanized and resented without a care in the world about what might have driven that person to act in such a way, and the public seem to have this seething desire for punishment. It's all so emotive and illogical.

[Kizzy]

Vigilante justice can't beat it eh? What's the point of having a justice system for an ordered society if folk are meting out their own punishment?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Vigilante justice can't beat it eh? What's the point of having a justice system for an ordered society if folk are meting out their own punishment?

the justice system is useless to deal with shoplifting, ask any store owner

[Kizzy]

the justice system is useless to deal with shoplifting, ask any store owner

That's no justification, anyone could say that about any crime it's not an excuse to take the law into your own hands, what kind of civilised society advocates that?
Give them the option to pay or remove the goods and ban them if you don't wish to involve the police would be my response.

[GiRTh]

the justice system is useless to deal with shoplifting, ask any store ownerSuch a tough guy eh? LMFAO Justice is meted out by your hand eh? But I bet its not. :joker:

[JoshBB]

That's no justification, anyone could say that about any crime it's not an excuse to take the law into your own hands, what kind of civilised society advocates that?
Give them the option to pay or remove the goods and ban them if you don't wish to involve the police would be my response.

I agree with this completely.

For the 'respect the law' crew of the politics side of TiBB the hypocrisy is overwhelming...

[Crimson Dynamo]

Such a tough guy eh? LMFAO Justice is meted out by your hand eh? But I bet its not. :joker:

Its not about me Girth its about this store owner and his quick method of persuading a criminal not to shoplift, which i am pretty sure worked.

[arista]

I am going to bet he does not shoplift in there again, punk.


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How Nice

[GiRTh]

Its not about me Girth its about this store owner and his quick method of persuading a criminal not to shoplift, which i am pretty sure worked.
He should leave it to the authorities

[Crimson Dynamo]

He should leave it to the authorities

It looks like he has, got nowhere and decided to deal with it himself

[arista]

He should leave it to the authorities



Maybe he does not have time for that


This should be shown in Schools
Never Shop Lift


Feel The Force

[GiRTh]

It looks like he has, got nowhere and decided to deal with it himselfAnd if there are any consequences then I will have no sympathy.

[GiRTh]

Maybe he does not have time for that


This should be shown in Schools
Never Shop Lift


Feel The ForceIT should be shown in a boxing class on how to hit effectively from close range.

[arista]

IT should be shown in a boxing class on how to hit effectively from close range.


But its One sided
the Red Face Punk
is not hitting back.

[GiRTh]

But its One sided
the Red Face Punk
is not hitting back.
The guy never misses. Not once. And he hits him flush every single time. HE doesnt glance him with any of the slaps. That guys done that before. No doubt in my mind. Have to say though the shoplifter didnt go down and the store owner definitely sucker punched him with the first one.

I'd actually find it funny if the shoplifter had friends who would pay this store owner a visit with a few pieces of pipe and a couple of baseball bats he needs to learn that he cant slap people about like that.

[GiRTh]

And as for 'I'll personally slap you about'. That needless movie line needs to be fed back to him at some point in the future. Lets see how he does when theres four of them with baseball bats. I wonder if he'll stand in front of the camera again.

So much to dislike about that clip.

[Crimson Dynamo]

The guy never misses. Not once. And he hits him flush every single time. HE doesnt glance him with any of the slaps. That guys done that before. No doubt in my mind. Have to say though the shoplifter didnt go down and the store owner definitely sucker punched him with the first one.

I'd actually find it funny if the shoplifter had friends who would pay this store owner a visit with a few pieces of pipe and a couple of baseball bats he needs to learn that he cant slap people about like that.

a shoplifter with a crew?

:joker:


Somehow I dont think so.

[GiRTh]

a shoplifter with a crew?

:joker:


Somehow I dont think so.The poor shoplifter looked so shocked he had no idea what was happening so on this I will agree but that shopowner has now put a huge target on his back. Surely he cant think he can put up a vid on yotube for the whole world to see showing what a badass he is? I know people who would look at that vid and now consider that shop a challenge they cant turn down. Let hope you''re right though and slapping people about and posting it on youtube does deters people from shoplifting at his store. I doubt it.
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[GiRTh]

‘I'll slap the ******* out of your face’: Shocking video of slap attack on suspected shoplifter in east London leads to arrest A man has been arrested after a shocking video of a supermarket worker launching an astonishing attack on a suspected shoplifter went viral.

The video appears to show a staff member at a branch of Costcutter in east London repeatedly slapping the man in the head while hurling abuse at him, after accusing him of stuffing goods into his bag.

The footage, apparently filmed on a mobile phone, shows the attacker casually taking the suspected thief aside and asking him to open his bag - before suddenly striking him out of nowhere.

He lands 11 blows as the startled man stumbles around the shop - while warning him the store is “not a ********** ordinary shop” like Sainsbury's or Tesco.

“You ever steal again I'll slap the ******* out of your face,” he says before adding: “I will ******* you up personally, you understand?”

The video was posted on Friday and watched thousands of times before the original footage was deleted from YouTube.

Claims have since surfaced that the victim was a homeless pensioner, though they have not been verified.

A still from the video shows the man on the left being hit (Picture: YouTube) Police announced today that they were alerted to the video, filmed in Newham, on Saturday and have since arrested a man in his 20s on suspicion of common assault.

Officers added that no allegation of assault has been made.

Costcutter condemned the attack and said it had immediately referred the matter to police.

It claimed the man was not in fact an employee but a relative of the store owner.

Writing on Facebook, the convenience store company said: “We are shocked by the events shown in this video.

“Having spoken with the store owner, he has told us that he is equally appalled and explained that one of his relatives who was not an employee took matters into his own hands when the owner was absent.

“While it is not possible for the shopkeeper to take any direct action with regards the person shown in the video, we immediately contacted the police to ask them to investigate this incident further.”

LINK (http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/ill-slap-the-f-out-of-your-face-man-arrested-over-shocking-video-of-slap-attack-on-suspected-shoplifter-10319302.html)

Brilliant. Justice works both ways for sure.:joker:

Good on Costcutters to condemn the attack. So it wasnt the guys own shop at all. He definitely deserves a beatin now.

[MTVN]

Such a tough guy eh? LMFAO Justice is meted out by your hand eh? But I bet its not. :joker:

But you are the one also saying how much the shopowner (or whoever it is) needs a beating and that you'd like to see a group of people come for him with baseball bats :think: how is that any less 'tough guy' and 'meting out justice with your own hands'

[GiRTh]

But you are the one also saying how much the shopowner (or whoever it is) needs a beating and that you'd like to see a group of people come for him with baseball bats :think: how is that any less 'tough guy' and 'meting out justice with your own hands'HE does need some kind of repercussion to show he cant behave kike that. I also mentioned that violence leads to more violence. Thats what I was hinting at and in this case I thinlk it would be justificed

I dont start threads and post vids of people acting like badasses then praise them. So no not at all the same.

[Liam-]

But you are the one also saying how much the shopowner (or whoever it is) needs a beating and that you'd like to see a group of people come for him with baseball bats :think: how is that any less 'tough guy' and 'meting out justice with your own hands'

Fighting violence with even worse violence is apparently the best answer

[MTVN]

HE does need some kind of repercussion to show he cant behave kike that. I also mentioned that violence leads to more violence. Thats what I was hinting at and in this case I thinlk it would be justificed

I dont start threads and post vids of people acting like badasses then praise them. So no not at all the same.

People could just as easily say that the shoplifter needs some kind of repercussion to show that he can't behave like that?

You're still arguing that justice should be taken into someone's own hands rather than it being dealt with in the correct way by the proper authorities - the exact thing you were mocking everyone else for saying

[GiRTh]

People could just as easily say that the shoplifter needs some kind of repercussion to show that he can't behave like that?

You're still arguing that justice should be taken into someone's own hands rather than it being dealt with in the correct way by the proper authorities - the exact thing you were mocking everyone else for saying
The shoplifter got his repercussion. I say I see two assholes who need to be taught a lesson where as many people only see one.

I never ever argued that justice should be taken into his own hands. I say by posting a vid of himself acting like a badass this guy has let himself open to more violence.

[GiRTh]

Fighting violence with even worse violence is apparently the best answer
But you argued it was right to slap the shoplifter. :shrug:

[Liam-]

But you argued it was right to slap the shoplifter. :shrug:

No i didn't? I said I don't blame him for doing so, I said quite a few times that it probably wasn't the right thing for him to do

[GiRTh]

No i didn't? I said I don't blame him for doing so, I said quite a few times that it probably wasn't the right thing for him to doIt definitely wasnt the right thing to do as now look what has happened.

[Liam-]

It definitely wasnt the right thing to do as now look what has happened.

Right? the police are speaking to him, which is right, I don't quite understand the point you're attempting to make, considering you're the one now saying he should be gang attacked by the guy and a few of his friends with bats :shrug:

[Amy Jade]

So glad the guy doing the attacking is being punished. :clap1:

[Ammi]

It definitely wasnt the right thing to do as now look what has happened.

..the police are investigating because of the vid being posted ..?..

[GiRTh]

Right? the police are speaking to him, which is right, I don't quite understand the point you're attempting to make, considering you're the one now saying he should be gang attacked by the guy and a few of his friends with bats :shrug:Why not? He thinks he can slap people about then how we gonna show him that he cant? I dont encourage it but I wouldn't be surprised if it happened and I certainly wouldn't be sympathetic to the store worker at all.

[Ammi]

[center]‘I'll slap the ******* out of your face’: Shocking video of slap attack on suspected shoplifter in east London leads to arrest

LINK (http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/ill-slap-the-f-out-of-your-face-man-arrested-over-shocking-video-of-slap-attack-on-suspected-shoplifter-10319302.html)

Brilliant. Justice works both ways for sure.:joker:

Good on Costcutters to condemn the attack. So it wasnt the guys own shop at all. He definitely deserves a beatin now.

...see, what made me feel uneasy as well is that it wasn't just that he did it...(and apparently wasn't even the shop owner..)..it was posting the vid almost as if he was pleased with himself and 'bragging' about it which isn't really 'protecting livelihood'....so makes the whole thing really even more disturbing....

[GiRTh]

..the police are investigating because of the vid being posted ..?..
Yes. They're talking to the happy slapper.

[Liam-]

Why not? He thinks he can slap people about then how we gonna show him that he cant? I dont encourage it but I wouldn't be surprised if it happened and I certainly wouldn't be sympathetic to the store worker at all.

You're literally condemning the guy for taking the law into his own hands, but yet in the same breath, you're saying that the thief, not 'suspected thief', should rally up some of his mates and take the law into their own hands, you don't think that that's slightly hypocritical?

[Ammi]

Yes. They're talking to the happy slapper.

..and I think literally seemed quite happy with himself as well to post the vid ...it also makes sense that he pulled him in front of the CCTV to hit him so that he could do that...

[GiRTh]

You're literally condemning the guy for taking the law into his own hands, but yet in the same breath, you're saying that the thief, not 'suspected thief', should rally up some of his mates and take the law into their own hands, you don't think that that's slightly hypocritical?I'm not condemning him for that. I have no problem with him slapping him per se, once maybe twice then throwing him out of the shop but deliberately standing him infront of the camera, sucker punching him while he was looking at the bag, the movie lines about how 'he's gonna ****** him up' There is lot to detest about this store worker and I would have absolutely no sympathy if someone looked upon him as a challenge that they cant turn down. If that makes me hypocritical then guilty as charged. :thumbs: