I am disturbed by the amount of negativity towards Jack

[tomrain]

Yes he has a quick temper, yes he makes some wrong choices, yes he really wants a cooked English breakfast but he is no Marc or Helen.

Jack is a young guy who has life lessons to learn but I don't see a bad egg. Look at how he handled the car manipulation. He said no because he knew it was right thing to do.

He does make mistakes granted but compared with Helen or Marc it's a different level. Those are the vile and ugly, the skid marks of a ego centric society based on vain self gratification.

I say moderate your venom to the real dregs in the house and be a bit less antagonist towards Jack.

[ruiphillips]

So much truth

Those who constantly bring up his weight, need a good look in the mirror.

[arista]

Yes he has a quick temper, yes he makes some wrong choices, yes he really wants a cooked English breakfast but he is no Marc or Helen.

Jack is a young guy who has life lessons to learn but I don't see a bad egg. Look at how he handled the car manipulation. He said no because he knew it was right thing to do.

He does make mistakes granted but compared with Helen or Marc it's a different level. Those are the vile and ugly, the skid marks of a ego centric society based on vain self gratification.

I say moderate your venom to the real dregs in the house and be a bit less antagonist towards Jack.


No He Stinks

Jack Must Be Evicted

Its Good To Cry.

[arista]

So much truth

Those who constantly bring up his weight, need a good look in the mirror.


Helen brought up the Fact he is Fat.


He is doing nothing to change that



I can look in the mirror
& I never applied to go on to Big Brother Timebomb

[NotARylanFan]

I think the fact he won the "Winner" vote has overtime gone to his head, the fact the original housemates have never nominated him despite him providing them with multiple valid reasons for doing so has created a sense of entitlement.

ie when he ripped into Sam for nominating him because of his gambling issue when he was saying "I TRUSTED YOU AND YOU THREW IT IN MY FACE!!!!" and got extremely irrate about it - only for Sam to calmly point out that Jack never had that conversation with her, and she only heard it via Simon/in the media and online before entering.

You could place a few housemates in that same position as Jack and you could almost guarantee they'd be nominated for it.

[Gusto Brunt]

Helen brought up the Fact he is Fat.


...

I thought I first heard Brian say it.

[billy123]

So much truth

Those who constantly bring up his weight, need a good look in the mirror.You are half right. I think he is an utter cock because of how he behaves but agree anybody that uses his weight or the way he looks to attack him is a nob.

[DemolitionRed]

I agree that weight shouldn't be used as a dislike of someone.

I went seriously off Jack when he had a go at Chloe for nominating him. As has already been said here, his sense of entitlement and his over inflated ego really showed up in those moments and he went from being one of my favourites to one of my least favourites.

[Mick]

I agree the OP.I never got the impression that Jack gave up the car because he thought it was a given that he would win.Likewise he gave away at least one of his passes.

Yes we are seeing another side to his character but we all have this when put under pressure.The only real negativity I have seen against him from other HMs stemmed from marc.

RE His size yes he complains about lack of food (as do the others) but it was Adjoa and Cristian who where accused of eating more than there fair share so he may be over weight but not at the expense of his fellow HMs.

He and harry where / are marcs main targets the latter because she stands up to him but Jack because Marc still thinks or thought that Jack can win.?

As a viewer I still enjoy watching him more so than some others so hope he stays longer.

[sampvt]

Its not his weight, but that does not help in some small minded peoples eyes, its the fact that he is lazy, smelly and nasty. He is a big head and needs a reality check.

[Rorkimaru]

He shouldn't be condemned for living an unhealthy lifestyle, half the house smoke after all.

However it's perfectly fine to condemn him for his moaning, his constant gossiping, that he provides little to no entertainment and that he turns on people the moment their back is turned. It's grand to not like how he flips the lid whenever anything goes the "wrong" way or how he can't own responsibility for his own actions. There are plenty of reasons to not like Jack and he has no charm to save himself. Mark is charming and despite things on a surface level looking dickish is probably a nicer and more genuine person and housemates than Jack.

[Mick]

Its not his weight, but that does not help in some small minded peoples eyes, its the fact that he is lazy, smelly and nasty. He is a big head and needs a reality check.

I do not feel the need to fight his corner but RE your above sam what evidence that he is more lazy than others or that he smells.Likewise "nasty".?

[bots]

i don't like Jack, he is an obnoxious, self entitled twat. I'm perfectly entitled to that opinion, no need for concern or to be disturbed.

[Jay.]

it's just a tv show, and one that, for years, people judge people on, you hate some, you love others. it's like panto.

[Pete.]

I don't think his weights a problem, he's just an awful housemate

[arista]

I don't think his weights a problem, he's just an awful housemate


Valid Point

[Liam-]

His weight doesn't bother me, nor does it contribute towards my dislike of him, he's just a grade a twat with anger issues and a superiority complex, that's why I dislike him, I can't speak for everyone though.

[Daniel-X]

it's just a tv show, and one that, for years, people judge people on, you hate some, you love others. it's like panto.

This. It's how BB has always worked.

[bots]

it's just a tv show, and one that, for years, people judge people on, you hate some, you love others. it's like panto.

oh no it isn't :fist:

[joeysteele]

I am indifferent to Jack, he isn't one of them that I would support to win but I can see myself voting others out before him too.
He does complain, he does moan a lot but then near all of them do or have over this series already anyway.

Often when he flies off the handle, I find that funny and also get a laugh at that happening.

I don't take his weight into account as any relevant factor whatsoever,I don't even think he is that overweight anyway.
A lot of posts contain the word 'fat' as to Jack and I really see no need for that myself.
So I agree with the opening post really as to Jack.

[Cherie]

it's just a tv show, and one that, for years, people judge people on, you hate some, you love others. it's like panto.

Don't you think over the top hate for a guy who has essentially been a good housemate might follow him after the show though?

[Kazanne]

I thought I first heard Brian say it.

People have selected hearing at times Gusto:laugh:

[Cherie]

I don't think his weights a problem, he's just an awful housemate

How is he an awful housemate when there are so many threads about him he is actually a great housemate as he as given the forum so many talking points, If you want a truly awful housemate look towards Danny, nothing to say for himself, and a clip of him talking to himself cutting his hair being a high point, what's worse is he might actually win :umm2:

[y.winter]

BB14 Sam post trauma. With Helen being a sad aftermath.

[Trasadkel1]

I don't like Jack and it is a definite that he will be nominated and subsequently evicted but in my opinion he can wait. If it was between Danny and Jack I would prefer Danny to go. Jack, although immensely annoying, offers far more to the show than Danny. His monotone voice and fake personality annoy me far more than Jack.

[Cherie]

I don't like Jack and it is a definite that he will be nominated and subsequently evicted but in my opinion he can wait. If it was between Danny and Jack I would prefer Danny to go. Jack, although immensely annoying, offers far more to the show than Danny. His monotone voice and fake personality annoy me far more than Jack.

:clap1: he will come alive in the last week if he is still in

[Trasadkel1]

How is he an awful housemate when there are so many threads about him he is actually a great housemate as he as given the forum so many talking points, If you want a truly awful housemate look towards Danny, nothing to say for himself, and a clip of him talking to himself cutting his hair being a high point, what's worse is he might actually win :umm2:

Have just said pretty much the same. Agree about Danny.

[Kizzy]

I'm disturbed by the amount of negativity in Jack :idc:

'11.54pm: Jack is ENRAGED that housemates are still singing. We'll leave him to it. Back in the morning!'

[Pete.]

His weight doesn't bother me, nor does it contribute towards my dislike of him, he's just a grade a twat with anger issues and a superiority complex, that's why I dislike him, I can't speak for everyone though.
That certainly speaks to me

[Cherie]

I'm disturbed by the amount of negativity in Jack :idc:

'11.54pm: Jack is ENRAGED that housemates are still singing. We'll leave him to it. Back in the morning!'

:laugh: he is the only one kicking off about stuff and people want to see the back of him.....Happy house :idc:

[Jay.]

Don't you think over the top hate for a guy who has essentially been a good housemate might follow him after the show though?

people in the limelight, or anyone who even used the internet are subject to hate, it would have been emphasised to him, before even going in there, that there will be people who send hate, or hate on him. he's going to have to get used to it, anyone on the internet can get hate, just because some people don't think it's right, doesn't mean it won't happen.

[RockBottom]

Jack is just a sheep that just jumps on the bandwagon all the time. I have no sympathy for him.

[jaxie]

I do not feel the need to fight his corner but RE your above sam what evidence that he is more lazy than others or that he smells.Likewise "nasty".?

This. Some of the remarks about Jack are just ridiculously prejudiced.

[Kizzy]

:laugh: he is the only one kicking off about stuff and people want to see the back of him.....Happy house :idc:

Kicking off about nothing though.... he's just a buzz killington. He should bore off :)

[jaxie]

How is he an awful housemate when there are so many threads about him he is actually a great housemate as he as given the forum so many talking points, If you want a truly awful housemate look towards Danny, nothing to say for himself, and a clip of him talking to himself cutting his hair being a high point, what's worse is he might actually win :umm2:

:clap1: I couldn't agree more. At least you know Jack is actually in there. Danny is completely forgettable, as is Christian but at least Christian is pretty even if does fake talk too much.

[Ashley.]

:laugh: he is the only one kicking off about stuff and people want to see the back of him.....Happy house :idc:

Oh please.

[jennyjuniper]

I had high hopes for Jack to start with. Anyone who goes by the name 'Pie Face' was someone who would be up for a laugh etc.,
However, he has done little else but bitch and moan and try to pull a fast one on BB. His weight has nothing to do with the fact that Jack is boring, often smug and usually bad tempered if he doesn't get his own way.

[saintjude]

I think some of the comments about him are going too far and being nasty. He's not an evil person and if he won at least we'd remember him doing something in the house

[Kazanne]

How is he an awful housemate when there are so many threads about him he is actually a great housemate as he as given the forum so many talking points, If you want a truly awful housemate look towards Danny, nothing to say for himself, and a clip of him talking to himself cutting his hair being a high point, what's worse is he might actually win :umm2:

I agree Cherie,I don't dislike Danny but he has done zilch to deserve a win.

[Vicky.]

Don't mind Jack, I think his kickoffs are quite funny tbh.

[ThriceShy]

Jack's downfall will be one of the most satisfying ever.

[Beetlejuice]

It is amazing to me that he is attacked when people like Helen and Marc are in there. Big Brother has always been an interesting show because it is interactive and reveals something about how people watching think, and apparently they worship bullies and despise inoffensive fat kids. People have probably switched off because of who gets rewarded and who gets attacked on this show.

[ThriceShy]

It is amazing to me that he is attacked when people like Helen and Marc are in there. Big Brother has always been an interesting show because it is interactive and reveals something about how people watching think, and apparently they worship bullies and despise inoffensive fat kids. People have probably switched off because of who gets rewarded and who gets attacked on this show.

Bit of a false choice fallacy there.

I can't stand jack but I also don't like helen and would love to see her downfall. Why are you trying to pigeon hole people and imply that they don't like jack but like helen and mark?

[Kizzy]

Inoffensive? He's shouted and sworn at the majority of the house and had more bitch fits that Nikki.. who is this little cherub you are watching? It's not Jack :/

[ThriceShy]

Inoffensive? He's shouted and sworn at the majority of the house and had more bitch fits that Nikki.. who is this little cherub you are watching? It's not Jack :/

Can you imagine working for him in a hot busy McDonalds. A fate worse than death.

[Griffin5779]

Yes he has a quick temper, yes he makes some wrong choices, yes he really wants a cooked English breakfast but he is no Marc or Helen.

Jack is a young guy who has life lessons to learn but I don't see a bad egg. Look at how he handled the car manipulation. He said no because he knew it was right thing to do.

He does make mistakes granted but compared with Helen or Marc it's a different level. Those are the vile and ugly, the skid marks of a ego centric society based on vain self gratification.

I say moderate your venom to the real dregs in the house and be a bit less antagonist towards Jack.


He said no to the car because he had just been told he was most popular and figured he had a chance of winning or would make more from the "fame" from staying in longer. remember the man is a gambler...he told bb to "put it all on black" nothing noble about it.

As for being young..he is a manager at Macdonalds..True its not like being a scientist...but you would hope he was a little more grown up. His anger...i pity the poor people who work under him.


Jack IS a bad egg...quick to anger and bellow at people. freely admits he hates to loss to point he get angry and says he holds a grudge. I don't agree with attacking his weight but after his actions in the ninja task reveal i think it is fair to say he is thick as a brick...and then he gets angry at BB and calls it unfair.

Never liked Helen..and I hate to seeing Marc close to her..but Marc is a good guy..Crude yes and he should tone that down...but the man has a good heart as far as i'm concerned..easily the most deserving winner in years. and i hope he stay true and brings it over the line

[Jack_]

I am too and it's because he's fat

He was disliked going in because everyone rightly assumed he was going to be the Mr Nice Guy series bore, but now that he's had multiplied random aggressive breakdowns which are hilarious, he's still criticised as being this awful housemate when people like Cristian, Danny and Chloe exist. Definitely because of his appearance

[Liam-]

I am too and it's because he's fat

He was disliked going in because everyone rightly assumed he was going to be the Mr Nice Guy series bore, but now that he's had multiplied random aggressive breakdowns which are hilarious, he's still criticised as being this awful housemate when people like Cristian, Danny and Chloe exist. Definitely because of his appearance

No it's not, I dislike him because of his twattish personality

[JoshBB]

He's not as nasty as Marc, but he sure is more irritating.

[Rorkimaru]

As for being young..he is a manager at Macdonalds..True its not like being a scientist...but you would hope he was a little more grown up. His anger...i pity the poor people who work under him.

I forgot about that. Man I can imagine him being an awful boss. Quick to anger, inarticulate when enraged, can't handle pressure and very happy to have a grumpy grudge.

[arista]

Jack is just a sheep that just jumps on the bandwagon all the time. I have no sympathy for him.


Bang On Right

[rubymoo]

I quite like Jack, he's quite amusing to watch, he brings more entertainment than some of the others in there.

[ThriceShy]

I am too and it's because he's fat

He was disliked going in because everyone rightly assumed he was going to be the Mr Nice Guy series bore, but now that he's had multiplied random aggressive breakdowns which are hilarious, he's still criticised as being this awful housemate when people like Cristian, Danny and Chloe exist. Definitely because of his appearance

His appearance is due to his greed and laziness. Why can't I judge him on that?

[JayBlaze]

Don't worry, Helen picking on him for a few days will have him back in favour with the public

[wendywillow]

I am disturbed by the amount of negativity towards .....insert fave here

been there.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Yes he has a quick temper, yes he makes some wrong choices, yes he really wants a cooked English breakfast but he is no Marc or Helen.

Jack is a young guy who has life lessons to learn but I don't see a bad egg. Look at how he handled the car manipulation. He said no because he knew it was right thing to do.

He does make mistakes granted but compared with Helen or Marc it's a different level. Those are the vile and ugly, the skid marks of a ego centric society based on vain self gratification.

I say moderate your venom to the real dregs in the house and be a bit less antagonist towards Jack.

:clap1:

[uniquedude]

He's getting as much as hate as anyone else who people dont like in the last 15 years of big brother.

[cookiemonster]

come on though, lets be honest here. a fat person getting that excited/annoyed about losing/winning a fried breakfast is quite funny

i don't have many thoughts on Jack tbh. he's kind of in the 'meh' category.

[Razor]

Jack seems ok to me hes done nothing wrong that I can see.

[Jack_]

His appearance is due to his greed and laziness. Why can't I judge him on that?

Because his appearance is irrelevant to what he's doing in the house and pretty much anything else. It's just unnecessary to bring someone's appearance into a discussion and it also just highlights how insecure and pathetic the person doing it is.

[ThriceShy]

Because his appearance is irrelevant to what he's doing in the house and pretty much anything else. It's just unnecessary to bring someone's appearance into a discussion and it also just highlights how insecure and pathetic the person doing it is.


Please stick to discussing the housemates rather than other members.

Jack is fat. I don't think anyone is claiming he got that way due to his glands. So we know he eats too much and doesn't exercise. Indeed, we see him sat all day in his dressing gown and we see him irate when they lose a food task.

It is part of who he is and I can judge him on it. And you can call me all the names under the sun for doing so and it won't make a jot of difference, except reflect badly on you.

[Jack_]

Please stick to discussing the housemates rather than other members.

Jack is fat. I don't think anyone is claiming he got that way due to his glands. So we know he eats too much and doesn't exercise. Indeed, we see him sat all day in his dressing gown and we see him irate when they lose a food task.

It is part of who he is and I can judge him on it. And you can call me all the names under the sun for doing so and it won't make a jot of difference, except reflect badly on you.

I never mentioned others members. I was stating a hypothetical scenario which applies to anyone who brings appearance into a discussion or argument, be it someone on social media, in real life, regarding Big Brother, regarding a work dispute, wherever, whatever. Who made you a mod though hun?

I never said Jack isn't fat, but him being fat bears no relevance to how good of a housemate he is, or to his actions inside the house.

Everyone knows that those who insult other's appearances are insecure, so I'm afraid it won't reflect badly on me since I'm condemning such criticism, but instead on the people who are making the comments in the first place. Insulting someone's appearance is never acceptable, it applies to Jack being called fat, it applies to people insulting Ashleigh's acne last year, it applies to people attacking Helen's nose, lips and botox, the list goes on. It's unnecessary, irrelevant, nasty, pathetic and shows people up. That is a fact.

[Withano]

To me, he's the second or third least likeable but I get your point. People act as if he's hitler in a body suit

[ThriceShy]

I never mentioned others members. I was stating a hypothetical scenario which applies to anyone who brings appearance into a discussion or argument, be it someone on social media, in real life, regarding Big Brother, regarding a work dispute, wherever, whatever. Who made you a mod though hun?

I never said Jack isn't fat, but him being fat bears no relevance to how good of a housemate he is, or to his actions inside the house.

Everyone knows that those who insult other's appearances are insecure, so I'm afraid it won't reflect badly on me since I'm condemning such criticism, but instead on the people who are making the comments in the first place. Insulting someone's appearance is never acceptable, it applies to Jack being called fat, it applies to people insulting Ashleigh's acne last year, it applies to people attacking Helen's nose, lips and botox, the list goes on. It's unnecessary, irrelevant, nasty, pathetic and shows people up. That is a fact.


If we were talking about someone being short or tall or ginger etc then you might have a point.

But we are talking about something self inflicted due to an addiction. Jack has a food addiction alongside his gambling addiction. Why can't I judge him on those things?

I certainly didn't attack Ashleigh's acne as I know that is out of her control but there is nothing wrong with judging someone who has had plastic surgery. It tells you something about them.

And you were indeed trying to personally insult me by suggesting I was insecure etc. If you continue then I will report your posts.

[Jack_]

If we were talking about someone being short or tall or ginger etc then you might have a point.

But we are talking about something self inflicted due to an addiction. Jack has a food addiction alongside his gambling addiction. Why can't I judge him on those things?

Because he isn't gambling in the house and once again, him being fat bears no relevance to how good of a housemate he is. His actions and what he contributes to the show determines that, not the way he looks or how big he is. If this were a health show or one about losing weight, then by all means discuss how fat people are, but it's a reality show, and it isn't relevant. What contestants on reality shows look like isn't relevant. At all. What they do is. Fact.

I certainly didn't attack Ashleigh's acne as I know that is out of her control but there is nothing wrong with judging someone who has had plastic surgery. It tells you something about them.

Yes, it tells you that they're insecure, probably had their appearance mocked and thus convinced themselves they needed to do something about it. And then people still insult them, making the problem worse. Funny that, isn't it?

And you were indeed trying to personally insult me by suggesting I was insecure etc. If you continue then I will report your posts.

People who mock other's appearances are insecure, it is a well known and established fact, not an opinion or an insult. You haven't actually mocked Jack's appearance yet so I haven't done anything of the sort, but hey...if the shoe fits.

Oh no! Don't report some text on a Big Brother forum on a screen in front of me to some people I'll never meet! How scary! I'm so frightened :bawling:

[sosadbbend]

Yes he has a quick temper, yes he makes some wrong choices, yes he really wants a cooked English breakfast but he is no Marc or Helen.

Jack is a young guy who has life lessons to learn but I don't see a bad egg. Look at how he handled the car manipulation. He said no because he knew it was right thing to do.

He does make mistakes granted but compared with Helen or Marc it's a different level. Those are the vile and ugly, the skid marks of a ego centric society based on vain self gratification.

I say moderate your venom to the real dregs in the house and be a bit less antagonist towards Jack.

I totally agree 100%