The isolation of Harry

[reece(:]

I was really upset with her isolation and Helen has again catapulted into awfulness. What a disgusting hypocrite.

I was so proud of Harry not caving in and keeping a smile on her face through it all.

[Scream]

Was a bit awkward and can't believe none of the originals had the decency to go and sit with her...would of just been instinct I thought...

[reece(:]

Was a bit awkward and can't believe none of the originals had the decency to go and sit with her...would of just been instinct I thought...
The pack mentality of them in there is pathetic. The original clique needs the boot

[cookiemonster]

it's coz they all agree with Helen. she has been using Nick. no one likes a user that takes advantage

[Jason.]

Helen and Nick are repulsive.

Does anyone have any bleach?
I need to disinfect my self, after stanning Helen for the last 365 days.

[johne]

I was really upset with her isolation and Helen has again catapulted into awfulness. What a disgusting hypocrite.

I was so proud of Harry not caving in and keeping a smile on her face through it all.

Me too. I'm no great Harry fan, but her treatment was bad. Nick, true to form, will possibly abandon her now which might damage his chances of winning.

[Gusto Brunt]

Was a bit awkward and can't believe none of the originals had the decency to go and sit with her...would of just been instinct I thought...

Harry is not an original though is she...

[Kazanne]

I was really upset with her isolation and Helen has again catapulted into awfulness. What a disgusting hypocrite.

I was so proud of Harry not caving in and keeping a smile on her face through it all.

Oh stop it:joker: everyone went over to the returning housemates except harry,but she will go for the sympathy vote now the nudity hasn't worked,they ALL decided together to put Harry up not just Helen.

[Pete.]

Shocking behaviour even from Brian who is meant to be 'fun, friendly etc etc'. Helen really is poison

[Josy]

Um she could have used her legs and walked over like the rest of them :umm2:

[Pete.]

Oh stop it:joker: everyone went over to the returning housemates except harry,but she will go for the sympathy vote now the nudity hasn't worked,they ALL decided together to put Harry up not just Helen.
But Helen really went for her knowing she was watching

[MrWong]

Was a bit awkward and can't believe none of the originals had the decency to go and sit with her...would of just been instinct I thought...

Yes that didn't sit well with me either.

It better not continue. Although it may get Harry the sympathy vote if it does.

[cookiemonster]

Um she could have used her legs and walked over like the rest of them :umm2:
exactly. don't know why you're all sticking up for her. if there's one thing i hate it's users

[jaxie]

Brian went over and spoke to her.

[Kazanne]

Shocking behaviour even from Brian who is meant to be 'fun, friendly etc etc'. Helen really is poison

How the bloody hell was that Helens fault?

[FacelessME]

Oh stop it:joker: everyone went over to the returning housemates except harry,but she will go for the sympathy vote now the nudity hasn't worked,they ALL decided together to put Harry up not just Helen.

Exactly. They nom'd her anyway so why go over and greet them.

[johne]

Um she could have used her legs and walked over like the rest of them :umm2:

She had just been nominated, no one cared, or consoled her. Should she have joined the group with a smile on her face?

[LukeB]

The nomination was harsh don't get me wrong but Harry needed to hear some home truths. Harry chose not to go up to them it was her own decision.

[Kazanne]

But Helen really went for her knowing she was watching

They were all agreeing ,Nikki even nodding her head in agreement.

[jennyjuniper]

it's coz they all agree with Helen. she has been using Nick. no one likes a user that takes advantage

To be honest I think the old housemates would have turned on Harry in a heartbeat even if Marc and the others hadn't come back into the house. Harry thinks she's got herself well dug in with the original housemates, but they really are a clique. By they I mean Chloe, Jack, Joel, Danny and Cristian.

[Josy]

She held back because she knew she had been well and truly sussed, even Sam walked over and she's been bad mouthing mark constantly

[Scream]

Harry is not an original though is she...

But all the 'originals' then said that they felt like she was the one that fit in out of all the newbies and even Sam, Marc and Simon are considered originals now because all of the evictees have been forgotten.

[MrWong]

Helen and Nick are repulsive.

Does anyone have any bleach?
I need to disinfect my self, after stanning Helen for the last 365 days.

Here for Helen losing her few remaining fans :clap1:

[reece(:]

How the bloody hell was that Helens fault?
Because she is spreading poison to single out others, true to form

What was most hilarious is that she herself is a former sex worker

[waterhog]

sussed and game is over.

[Jake.]

She's disgusting, one of her only qualities being consistency

[armand.kay]

what a champ she's handled herself very well throughout her stay :clap1:
Didn't think I could dispose anymore from last year but she's outdone herself she really is a nasty piece of work can't wait for her to **** off again :yuk:

[Calderyon]

Why would anyone go and greet the people who just nominated you and slagged you?

I wouldn´t.

[jennyjuniper]

The nomination was harsh don't get me wrong but Harry needed to hear some home truths. Harry chose not to go up to them it was her own decision.

I agree. She tried to play the victim when Marc was in the house and now she will make the most of being 'isolated'.

[erinp5]

It was nasty

[Josy]

She had just been nominated, no one cared, or consoled her. Should she have joined the group with a smile on her face?

Yes? Like all the other housemates are expected to when nommed :shrug:

[Cherie]

Um she could have used her legs and walked over like the rest of them :umm2:

She did in the end :laugh:

[Pete.]

How the bloody hell was that Helens fault?
Because Brian run back to Helen after speaking to her all embarrassed obvious looking for support from the all mighty, all bullying Helen

[Kazanne]

Because she is spreading poison to single out others, true to form

What was most hilarious is that she herself is a former sex worker

They could all see and hear what the others were saying,but if you need someone to blame ,I guess Helen will be the one,Nikki called her a trog,nothing said about that though.

[chuff me dizzy]

I have not a single jot of pity for Harry,she's a vile person and a terrible, fake housemate

[armand.kay]

Why would anyone go and greet the people who just nominated you and slagged you?

I wouldn´t.

This lol it doesn't make sense :laugh:

[bbfan1991]

I don't feel any sympathy for her, but she shouldn't be ostracized. Brian and I think Jade went over to speak to her, it all went too fast in the end trying to catch up with what was happening!

[jennyjuniper]

Harry is not an original though is she...

No, but from the start she 'got in' with the originals and started bad mouthing Marc, Sam and Simon to the others. Thereby making herself 'one of us' instead of one of the newbies.

[Pete.]

Here for Helen losing her few remaining fans :clap1:
Yayy

[Josy]

She did in the end :laugh:

Exactly so why all the hearts bleeding for poor little Harry

[Gusto Brunt]

She had just been nominated, no one cared, or consoled her. Should she have joined the group with a smile on her face?

She told everybody she doesn't care. They don't care either

[chuff me dizzy]

They could all see and hear what the others were saying,but if you need someone to blame ,I guess Helen will be the one,Nikki called her a trog,nothing said about that though.

That was my fav part,them watching the bunker watching them !! classic BB at its very best

[Kazanne]

Because Brian run back to Helen after speaking to her all embarrassed obvious looking for support from the all mighty, all bullying Helen

OMG,this is laughable,Brian walked away from Harry because he wanted to,you really do give Helen far too much creedence:joker::joker: I love it

[Locke.]

Not to worry, she only has 5 days left

[bbfan1991]

Were people expecting Marc to go up to her when they clearly don't see eye to eye? I mean come on.

[sampvt]

I have not a single jot of pity for Harry,she's a vile person and a terrible, fake housemate

The problem is that she is gone and Jack is safe. Damm

[Kizzy]

I think they were baying for blood, and it's being translated on the forum in a very ugly way.

[reece(:]

Not to worry, she only has 5 days left
Hope she walks tbh, would give us a more unpredictable result and show that she's better than this bunch of ****s.

[Pete.]

OMG,this is laughable,Brian walked away from Harry because he wanted to,you really do give Helen far too much creedence:joker::joker: I love it
He purposely went to Helen to say 'OMG that was so awkward' so that Helen would waltz over to Harry and say '**** off 'ome you dopey cow' or something to that effect

[Braden]

I hated it but was glad she did it if that makes sense?

She shouldn't cave into being pleasant and fake around these people after the stuff she's just seen. The others know that they don't like her, so that's the perfect way for them to fit in now. That's why no one was with her when they came in, but it's more a weakness on their behalf than a negative on Harry.

[Kazanne]

The problem is that she is gone and Jack is safe. Damm

Not necessarily Sam,more people might want Jack out

[Kazanne]

Yayy

:joker::joker: he'll have a long wait

[joeysteele]

They were all agreeing ,Nikki even nodding her head in agreement.

Exactly.
Helen was asked by BB to reveal the first nomination and why, she was only saying what they had all agreed to do and say.
Whoever was asked to reveal the first nomination would have done and said exactly the same,since it was all agreed beforehand by them all.

[armand.kay]

Hope she walks tbh, would give us a more unpredictable result and show that she's better than this bunch of ****s.

Here for ha walking really can't be asked to watch the mob tear her down for no reason

[reece(:]

Here for ha walking really can't be asked to watch the mob tear her down for no reason
That and the predictability is exhausting

[Cherie]

They could all see and hear what the others were saying,but if you need someone to blame ,I guess Helen will be the one,Nikki called her a trog,nothing said about that though.

Good point

[smudgie]

Well, She went up in my estimation tonight.
With a bit of luck she might pick up a few fans, I would like her to stay to see how it pans out with sleaze ball Nick for starters.
She could well be safe depending how n who she is up against.:shrug:

[rusticgal]

Was a bit awkward and can't believe none of the originals had the decency to go and sit with her...would of just been instinct I thought...


So much for Nicks loyalty...he suddenly realised what side his breads buttered.
Mind you..Harry deserved it in some way...she is really using Nick and Nick drops them at the drop of a hat when it's not doing him any favours. Both as bad as each other. What a shallow bunch they all are...

[Mystic Mock]

exactly. don't know why you're all sticking up for her. if there's one thing i hate it's users

Do you hate Nick then?

[Pete.]

Not necessarily Sam,more people might want Jack out
Not when a young girl who gets naked regularly is up, of she was black she would literally resemble a perfect housemate that the public loath

[Nancy.]

:cheer2:
Absolutely LOVE how Helen gave her the reasons for the nomination and Harry was stood there like a lemon when the others were introduicing each other.

She deserves everything she's gets. I CAN'T WAIT for Helen Wood to lay into her. It's definitely coming.

[rusticgal]

Well, She went up in my estimation tonight.
With a bit of luck she might pick up a few fans, I would like her to stay to see how it pans out with sleaze ball Nick for starters.
She could well be safe depending how n who she is up against.:shrug:


True...it could gain her a few fans.

[cookiemonster]

Do you hate Nick then?
don't hate him, don't like him. i think he at least does like Harry though, whereas Harry just uses him to cuddle at night coz there isn't anyone else

[Pete.]

That and the predictability is exhausting
Even Harry knows she's gone

[bots]

i like harry, but this is just silly. If you remember, Sarah was evicted, and still gave Sam a hug, if Harry had smiled and said its up to me to change your opinion of me, she would have got more respect. That said, Nick is the worst of the lot because he did abandon her without a backward glance. No thoughts for her whatsoever. He is the one people shoud be targeting

[reece(:]

:cheer2:
Absolutely LOVE how Helen gave her the reasons for the nomination and Harry was stood there like a lemon when the others were introduicing each other.

She deserves everything she's gets. I CAN'T WAIT for Helen Wood to lay into her. It's definitely coming.
Helen has already done more than enough, tyvm

[Jake.]

What I'm more concerned about is the next 5 days. Helen isn't the type to offer an olive branch and what with Marc tied to her hip I can see it being a pretty lonely week for Harry (what with the bunker housemates getting attention for the originals)

[Macie Lightfoot]

Hope she walks tbh, would give us a more unpredictable result and show that she's better than this bunch of ****s.

omg if she walks and takes someone else down with her like when Jem took down Harry <333333

but yeah, Harry's taken all the abuse hurled at her very well so she's the true winner of this abominable series.

[bbfan1991]

Harry's made of tough stuff, she's a dominatrix after all. She was probably pissed off about being nominated. I don't agree with them ignoring her to go to the new arrivals, but Harry is probably over it there now and talking to them.

[reece(:]

omg if she walks and takes someone else down with her like when Jem took down Harry <333333
That thought though :flutter:

[fitz2k2]

What I'm more concerned about is the next 5 days. Helen isn't the type to offer an olive branch and what with Marc tied to her hip I can see it being a pretty lonely week for Harry (what with the bunker housemates getting attention for the originals)

let see if nick sleeps in his own bed for once

[Kazanne]

What I'm more concerned about is the next 5 days. Helen isn't the type to offer an olive branch and what with Marc tied to her hip I can see it being a pretty lonely week for Harry (what with the bunker housemates getting attention for the originals)

You do realise it's Nikki that really wanted Harry gone,why is everyone blaming Helen? there were 4 of them who all agreed,I think Harry will have more of a problem with Nikki as she also likes Nick

[Dylan95]

It was awful to watch, it just proves how vile Helen is , she made her totally uncomfortable and it proves she`s still a bully:nono:

[Cherie]

You do realise it's Nikki that really wanted Harry gone,why is everyone blaming Helen? there were 4 of them who all agreed,I think Harry will have more of a problem with Nikki as she also likes Nick

:clap1: where was Marks stategy in all this :laugh:

[Kazanne]

It was awful to watch, it just proves how vile Helen is , she made her totally uncomfortable and it proves she`s still a bully:nono:

:joker::joker: the irony of you with that siggie

[Cherie]

:joker::joker: the irony of you with that siggie

:joker:

[Kazanne]

:clap1: where was Marks stategy in all this :laugh:

He was probably flexing his arse muscles,lol

[Trasadkel1]

Cannot stand Harry but to completely exonerate Nick by making out he is this poor downtrodden boy who is being manipulated by Harry is laughable. He could have walked away at any time he wanted.

[Cherie]

He was probably flexing his arse muscles,lol

:laugh: its fat, its fat.. :umm2: how interesting

[Cherie]

Cannot stand Harry but to completely exonerate Nick by making out he is this poor downtrodden boy who is being manipulated by Harry is laughable. He could have walked away at any time he wanted.

I know, what a disgrace because Nikki says he is cute :umm2:

[Kazanne]

I know, what a disgrace because Nikki says he is cute :umm2:

That's about the gist of it Cherie

[Nancy.]

:joker::joker: the irony of you with that siggie

I know.

Anyone who supports Katie bloody Hopkins really shouldn't talk about anyone being a bully.

[the truth]

shes vile, hes an idiot

[MB.]

From this thread I've learnt that there are people in this world who like Katie Hopkins yet dislike Helen, and vice versa.

Just hate both, it's much easier.

[Jason.]

From this thread I've learnt that there are people in this world who like Katie Hopkins yet dislike Helen, and vice versa.

Just hate both, it's much easier.

I've started.
TBH.

See Ashleigh is now my new fave of BB15. :spin:
It feels weird. But right.

[MB.]

I've started.
TBH.

See Ashleigh is now my new fave of BB15. :spin:
It feels weird. But right.

I'd just always assumed that KH and Helen appealed to the same crowd. Both incredibly mouthy, both of the opinion that saying horrible things to your face is somehow better than not at all, both had a clique that would target particular housemates for the pettiest of reasons, both somehow parents... the only difference is that Hopkins didn't win. Praise Jebus.

[the truth]

I know.

Anyone who supports Katie bloody Hopkins really shouldn't talk about anyone being a bully.

I'd just always assumed that KH and Helen appealed to the same crowd. Both incredibly mouthy, both of the opinion that saying horrible things to your face is somehow better than not at all, both had a clique that would target particular housemates for the pettiest of reasons, both somehow parents... the only difference is that Hopkins didn't win. Praise Jebus.

women are allowed to be that vile and abusive without any accountability, men would get punched

[MB.]

women are allowed to be that vile and abusive without any accountability

um did you even read the post of mine you just quoted

[the truth]

um did you even read the post of mine you just quoted

yes. did you read mine?

[MB.]

yes. did you read mine?

I'd call that accountability. Unless you mean just within the house, in which case... well, Helen was called out on that a good number of times as well...

[Amy Jade]

Helen and Marc are both bullies and both scum.

[the truth]

I'd call that accountability. Unless you mean just within the house, in which case... well, Helen was called out on that a good number of times as well... eh Helen won and was a vile bully....denise welch the same?

[MB.]

Ok now you're just reeling off women's names, time for bed.

[rionablue]

When Harry came into the house I liked her. She went on to make an effort to get to know the original housemates much more than the other three did . Her huge mistake was clinging onto Nick and forgetting about the other housemates. I don't feel sorry for her as she is an exhibitionist and Nick is a weak lilly livered man if you could even call him that. Bitterly disappointed in BOTH of them

[sosadbbend]

Oh stop it:joker: everyone went over to the returning housemates except harry,but she will go for the sympathy vote now the nudity hasn't worked,they ALL decided together to put Harry up not just Helen.

Just another example of how she isn't a sheep like all the others!!

[Ammi]

..yeah she could have walked over to everyone else and said, hey/hi y'all isn't this lovely or whatever but then she would have been vilified even more for being false because that would have been false, she was at a huge disadvantage with hers and Marc's dislike for each other and him returning..she's always damned if she does and damned if she doesn't because she's just not popular and so any understanding/empathy goes for any unpopular housemate from the other housemates who would have known how difficult it was for her and could have given her a little hug or something....well done to Brian but sadly didn't he even then say something about it being awkward to talk to her..?..why would it be awkward...she had done nothing wrong while they were watching her in the bunker...I mean her standing back could also be perceived as...'well, I always knew he was there and watching so no big deal etc..'..because isn't that why she never took glee in his departure..?...and yet she looked stunned with everything last night/as surprised as anyone...she really can't win....there is absolutely no reason or excuse for how they behaved toward her, she's been nothing but gracious since Marc went into the bunker and has received nothing from the bunker crowd except criticism and 'hate'.....

..the thing also with the past housemates, they're not in the game, none of this means anything to them really but they couldn't even walk over to someone who they knew it would be awkward for as they're watched the whole series and say hey, nice to meet you or whatever....

[Macie Lightfoot]

:clap1::clap1::clap1:

[DemolitionRed]

I don't like Harry; I wouldn't say she's my least favourite though. After last night she went up in my estimation and I certainly won't be voting to get her out, especially if Jack is up for eviction. As for Nick not ignoring her, he's been one of my favourites up until now but he's just a coward and a sheep like the rest of them.

I can't stand bullies and I will always sit on the victims side, even if I don't particularly like that victim. I hate people who suck up to bullies...nothing more cowardly imo. What happened last night almost certainly ensures Harry will stay in the house because most viewers won't like what they saw.

If Nick now leaves Harry alone, he will probably lose his place in the finals and deservedly so. Helen did him no favours when she said Harry was stopping him from winning, though at least by saying that, we now get to see Nicks true colours.

[Ammi]

I don't like Harry; I wouldn't say she's my least favourite though. After last night she went up in my estimation and I certainly won't be voting to get her out, especially if Jack is up for eviction. As for Nick not ignoring her, he's been one of my favourites up until now but he's just a coward and a sheep like the rest of them.

I can't stand bullies and I will always sit on the victims side, even if I don't particularly like that victim. I hate people who suck up to bullies...nothing more cowardly imo. What happened last night almost certainly ensures Harry will stay in the house because most viewers won't like what they saw.

If Nick now leaves Harry alone, he will probably lose his place in the finals and deservedly so. Helen did him no favours when she said Harry was stopping him from winning, though at least by saying that, we now get to see Nicks true colours.



..I don't think it's the thing to 'hate' the 'followers' of bullies though, maybe not admire them..?...but it's more for me, just seeing how easy these 'packs' are formed when there is mutual dislike for a person and how that is fed and I don't think that makes them bad people as such, just not strong enough in character to break away from 'the pack' and probably not even seeing that they are a pack in the first place....

..and yes to the second bit in bold....of course, Nick is a threat to Helen's favourite which is Marc, so although she likes Nick, it's in her interest to say these things with that plus it 'removes' Harry's friends and she hugely dislikes Harry so has deemed her deserving of no friends in there...Helen has nothing to lose herself with anything she does or says because she's not in the game but is trying to 'boost' the chances of her favourite one in the way that Helen does stuff....

[Kazanne]

I know.

Anyone who supports Katie bloody Hopkins really shouldn't talk about anyone being a bully.

Well I supported Katie last year but can concede she said some dodgy stuff,but as a housemate I liked her

[Vicky.]

Oh stop it:joker: everyone went over to the returning housemates except harry,but she will go for the sympathy vote now the nudity hasn't worked,they ALL decided together to put Harry up not just Helen.

Indeed...again harry isolates herself and its 'poor her' and everyone else is in the wrong :D At least her gameplan is working with some people though I guess

[Macie Lightfoot]

And I'm sure if Harry went over with the rest of the group she'd be seen as faker than faux fur, right?

[Kazanne]

Indeed...again harry isolates herself and its 'poor her' and everyone else is in the wrong :D At least her gameplan is working with some people though I guess

Agree Vicky, she did the same in that picnic task when she refused to play.

[Kazanne]

And I'm sure if Harry went over with the rest of the group she'd be seen as faker than faux fur, right?

I don't think she would,no.

[RodHull]

Um she could have used her legs and walked over like the rest of them :umm2:

THIS x 1000

As per usual she isolates herself makes herself the victim... Cant stand her


BORE OFF!!

[Mick]

Some good posts above.I have liked harry from the start I don't get the nudity bit but I do think that in comparison to many she is more honest.

She is going to be a target and I hope she now receives some support from those who she has spoke up for and defended when subjected to same from marc in the past.

One thing I like about the show is that when push comes to shove the voting public do have a sense of fair play and I hope this kicks in.I have never considered that she is or was playing the victim card.Marc tried to dominate she stood up to him now she has to take on Helen as well.Good luck girl you can do it.

[RodHull]

Marc tried to dominate.

Marc barely spoke to her, he actively avoided her until she started gunning for him actually then he started trying to turn the others against her. Originally he barely acknowledged her something even the likes of Joel noticed.

I have not once seen any evidence of the behaviour she spoke about from Marc he wasnt sexist he was just a prick to everyone, he never shouted over her or told her to shut up without provocation from her first.

[Vicky.]

And I'm sure if Harry went over with the rest of the group she'd be seen as faker than faux fur, right?

I agree she was right to not be all happy about their entrance. I would not have been all smiley and happy either after seeing that about myself... However I disagree with this whole 'victim' thing shes being painted as when she choses to be apart from the group?

[RodHull]

Had she walked and then been verbally attacked or pushed away in some way I might have some sympathy for her, but no as per usualy she pulls the sulky sullen teenager trick and isolates herself.