USA :Irish Students Killed In Balcony Collapse

[arista]

In California

http://news.sky.com/story/1503111/irish-students-killed-in-balcony-collapse

[Five Irish students have been killed and eight others injured
after a balcony collapsed at an apartment building in Berkeley, California.]


http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2015/6/16/399272/default/v2/cegrab-20150616-130523-139-1-762x428.jpg


They should have been told not to dance on them

[Niamh.]

Very sad, looks like a few of the injured could die also

[Livia]

Just heard this on the news. What a terrible thing to happen.

[arista]

Just heard this on the news. What a terrible thing to happen.


There was Chairs on it
they removed them
Big Error
as then to many on that balcony
its not meant for Dancing on.

[Livia]

There was Chairs on it
they removed them
Big Error
as then to many on that balcony
its not meant for Dancing on.

They'd probably had a few drinks... drink in sense out. Horrible thing to happen though.

[Jord]

I read that there was apparently 14 people on the balcony :( Horrible

[arista]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/06/17/01/article-3127240-29AEAE2F00000578-402_308x499.jpg

[Ashley Donohoe, 22, Olivia Burke, 21, Eoghan Culligan, 21,
Niccolai Schuster, 21, Lorcan Miller, 21, and Eimear Walsh, 21.

Five of them were from Ireland, while Ms Donohoe
was believed to be from Rohnert Park, California.]

http://news.sky.com/story/1503381/six-students-killed-in-balcony-collapse-named


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/06/17/10/article-3127240-29B25EF900000578-637_964x384.jpg

[Kizzy]

poor kids :(

[lostalex]

I read that the neighbors had been calling the police about them being drunk hooligans before in the night. sounds like they were morons. The size of the balcony in the pictures, how the **** is anyone stupid enough to think it's okay to have 14 people on it? The balcony looks like it was made to have a few potted plants on it, not 14 drunk college kids.

[Niamh.]

:rolleyes:

[Iceman]

Looks like the balcony wasn't up to health and safety standard. It was made of wood for Christ sake. Americans cutting corners again.

[arista]

Looks like the balcony wasn't up to health and safety standard. It was made of wood for Christ sake. Americans cutting corners again.


No it was
No one is meant Dance and Jump on it


It had Chairs for it
THEY removed them,

[Niamh.]

No it was
No one is meant Dance and Jump on it


It had Chairs for it
THEY removed them,

http://www.rte.ie/news/2015/0617/708787-support-for-irish-students-in-berkeley/

[arista]

"wooden beams are the likely "


Sure - But Again why remove the chairs?
so they could Jump and Dance on it

[Niamh.]

"wooden beams are the likely "


Sure - But Again why remove the chairs?
so they could Jump and Dance on it

Because they're a bunch of college students having a party, if the balcony was dangerous it should have been closed off not put a few chairs out there and hope no one moves them :/

[arista]

Because they're a bunch of college students having a party, if the balcony was dangerous it should have been closed off not put a few chairs out there and hope no one moves them :/


I bet it said
do not remove the chairs

[Niamh.]

I bet it said
do not remove the chairs

Do you? Where did you get the information from then?

[arista]

Do you? Where did you get the information from then?


Its normal
thats how they are meant to be used
sitting on chairs


Not Jumping /Dancing on them

[Niamh.]

Its normal
thats how they are meant to be used
sitting on chairs


Not Jumping /Dancing on them

So you just made up that there was a sign there then? Ok.

[arista]

So you just made up that there was a sign there then? Ok.


No I am sure a Photo will come

[Niamh.]

No I am sure a Photo will come

No you didn't make it up? Where did you hear that there was a sign then?

[arista]

[The structure was not designed for practical use it emerges, as investigators examine rotten beams as a cause for the collapse.]


http://news.sky.com/story/1504289/balcony-in-collapse-tragedy-was-decorative

[Niamh.]

[The structure was not designed for practical use it emerges, as investigators examine rotten beams as a cause for the collapse.]http://news.sky.com/story/1504289/balcony-in-collapse-tragedy-was-decorative

That doesn't say there was a sign telling the party goers that :shrug:

[Crimson Dynamo]

a combination of an old structure and too many people jumping and not thinking straight

[arista]

a combination of an old structure and too many people jumping and not thinking straight


Bang On Right

[arista]

That doesn't say there was a sign telling the party goers that :shrug:


Not Yet

[Niamh.]

Not Yet

So again you're making stuff up.

[Crimson Dynamo]

So again you're making stuff up.

:nono:

He is surmising


Its a valid legal method




(nawt another neem/arista fued - its getting like marc and harry)

[arista]

Thank You LT

[Niamh.]

:nono:

He is surmising


Its a valid legal method




(nawt another neem/arista fued - its getting like marc and harry)

Well, In this instance when 6 young people have died i think it's pretty insensitive and cruel to start making s**t up

[arista]

This is Not made up:

[Balcony In Collapse Tragedy Was 'Decorative'

The structure was not designed for practical use it emerges, as investigators examine rotten beams as a cause for the collapse.]


http://news.sky.com/story/1504289/balcony-in-collapse-tragedy-was-decorative

[Niamh.]

This is Not made up:

Balcony In Collapse Tragedy Was 'Decorative'

The structure was not designed for practical use it emerges, as investigators examine rotten beams as a cause for the collapse.


http://news.sky.com/story/1504289/balcony-in-collapse-tragedy-was-decorative

Arista, you said there was a sign up telling people not to go out there. Does it say that in this link you posted?

[arista]

Arista, you said there was a sign up telling people not to go out there. Does it say that in this link you posted?



No I said "I Bet"
there was a sign


My link leads to what I am saying

[Crimson Dynamo]

There were 13 people on it at time of collapse

It was around 8x5 feet

It was old and poorly constructed it has been established

[Niamh.]

No I said "I Bet"
there was a sign


My link leads to what I am saying

You bet means you're guessing which is making stuff up. That article doesn't mention anything about a sign

[arista]

You bet means you're guessing which is making stuff up. That article doesn't mention anything about a sign

Yes not yet

[Mokka]

So again you're making stuff up.

I love Niamh :love:

[Niamh.]

Yes not yet

Well when you get confirmation of that imaginary sign, get back to me, eh?

[lime]

The lazy stereotyping is sickening.A bunch of college students aged 20-22 celebrating a 21st birthday....shocking stuff

[Iceman]

So again you're making stuff up.

He does that when you prove him wrong. Also he won't admit he's wrong.

Anyone can clearly see this was a tragic accident, don't see why people are trying to blame people.

[Mokka]

The lazy stereotyping is sickening.A bunch of college students aged 20-22 celebrating a 21st birthday....shocking stuff

I agree... what is to be gained by blaming the victims... they are already reaping the consequences of their actions... The only thing to be gained now is an inspection of the other balconies on the building to ensure to other tragedies don't happen. It's not like this type of thing happens everyday.

[Ammi]

He does that when you prove him wrong. Also he won't admit he's wrong.

Anyone can clearly see this was a tragic accident, don't see why people are trying to blame people.

...I can't imagine how their families are feeling going over there to bring their bodies back home..just unbelievably sad...

[arista]

He does that when you prove him wrong. Also he won't admit he's wrong.

Anyone can clearly see this was a tragic accident, don't see why people are trying to blame people.


Its on USA Live News,
those students would have known
they must not Jump and Dance on that structure.


Yes its Tragic
but it appears their own fault
The Police were on the way to that building
due to so many complaining
about the Noise
but they then got a Urgent Gun Fire call (had to divert)
so they were not able to get there
before the Tragic Events.

[smudgie]

Truly tragic.
Those poor young people just starting out in life really, their families and friends must be bereft.
As to the strength of the balcony, it should be of safe construction and hopefully the rest will be tested to see if they pass muster, if not then heads should roll.

[Iceman]

Its on USA Live News,
those students would have known
they must not Jump and Dance on that structure.


Yes its Tragic
but it appears their own fault
The Police were on the way to that building
due to so many complaining
about the Noise
but they then got a Urgent Gun Fire call (had to divert)
so they were not able to get there
before the Tragic Events.

You're deluded. It's in no way their fault. You disgust me that you'd even say that.

[arista]

You're deluded. It's in no way their fault. You disgust me that you'd even say that.


I am not.


LT knows what I am saying

[Crimson Dynamo]

I am not.


LT knows what I am saying

Yes it was death by misadventure probably

as I said a combination of too many people jumping on a balcony that was, it seems, poorly constructed.

There must have been a sign up inside that said "no more than 5 people on the balcony please" or some such thing?


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Adult Balcony Safety Adults will (hopefully) not try to stick their heads through balusters or try to climb over balcony barriers, however, balconies can still pose problems to adults. Weight limits, structural issues, and steps should all be considered in keeping adult guests safe. The following tips can help ensure guest safety:

Inspect your balcony every year for structural problems, including but not limited to termites, corroded metals, and wet rot
Post any weight limits and watch that your guests comply
If there is a step down or narrow stairs leading from the balcony, post signs of any dangers and warn your guests

Balconies can be very pleasant parts of your home or business. Ensuring the safety of children and adults can help you keep your guests safe and happy on your extended outdoor living space.


http://www.safetyrisk.net/balcony-safety-3/

[Mokka]

Yes it was death by misadventure probably

as I said a combination of too many people jumping on a balcony that was, it seems, poorly constructed.

There must have been a sign up inside that said "no more than 5 people on the balcony please" or some such thing?


Not again with the fictional sign... show the proof or reference to it or stop mentioning it already

[arista]

"Yes it was death by misadventure probably"


Thank You LT for helping the Mod

[arista]

Not again with the fictional sign... show the proof or reference to it or stop mentioning it already


[The structure was not designed for practical use it emerges, as investigators examine rotten beams as a cause for the collapse.]


http://news.sky.com/story/1504289/balcony-in-collapse-tragedy-was-decorative


Just in case you missed this News Link.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Not again with the fictional sign... show the proof or reference to it or stop mentioning it already

No what we are saying is that it is a common health and safety practice to display a sign, like in an elevator. But the investigation is ongoing. The sign, if there will save a lawsuit

[Mokka]

I saw your article... but that still doesn't imply that those students on the balcony were personally aware of the balconies decorative status, or max weigh bearing status, or the rotten beams.

No signage was mentioned.

[Iceman]

"Yes it was death by misadventure probably"


Thank You LT for helping the Mod
Don't talk on my behalf, who do you think you are? He did nothing but have a possibility. He's not being as narrow minded as you.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I saw your article... but that still doesn't imply that those students on the balcony were personally aware of the balconies decorative status, or max weigh bearing status, or the rotten beams.

No signage was mentioned.

That will come out in the report on the incident.

[arista]

Don't talk on my behalf, who do you think you are? He did nothing but have a possibility. He's not being as narrow minded as you.


OK Eoin
Noted,


Sorry

[lostalex]

even if there was a sign, do we really think a bunch of drunk and drugged college kids would heed it?

The fact is it was a tiny balcony, that no intelligent person would look at and think was designed to "party" on. Any intelligent person would look at it and think immediately it was designed to put plants on and look nice, not hoards of drunk kids.

[Niamh.]

Alright Alex, is there really any need though? they're dead ffs it's a tragedy

[lostalex]

Alright Alex, is there really any need though? they're dead ffs it's a tragedy

True.