Chloe thinks she deserves it because she's "normal".

[Videostar]

Really...normal is all you need now is it? :shrug:

[caballo67]

So she shouldn't be in there because she isnt deluding herself about 'future careers'?

[Ashsleigh]

To be honest, that is why they nominated her.

[Videostar]

So she shouldn't be in there because she isnt deluding herself about 'future careers'?

Shes a radar dodger, none of us should like HM's like that.

If she wanted to be a normal girl she never would have entered a TV show.

[lewis111]

She's what big brother contestants are kinda meant to be. A representation of the public, and she and Jack are the only ones repressing like 95% of the population, so yes, she does deserve to be there because of it.
And you couldn't nominate someone for being a model or whatever, how is it different, if anything it's much worse

[TheElusiveChanteuse]

Really...normal is all you need now is it? :shrug:

Sorry, isn't this what the forums have been moaning about for years now? No 'normal' people?

[Angelika]

Really...normal is all you need now is it? :shrug:

Chloe said she was not chasing a modelling career, or any other celebrity lifestyle like most of he others. She clearly stated she was destined to her 9-5 job, marriage, having a baby sometime - in other words a fairly normal ordinary life. Wind the tape back and listen.

[lewis111]

Shes a radar dodger, none of us should like HM's like that.

If she wanted to be a normal girl she never would have entered a TV show.

She just wanted a bit of fun?

[MB.]

Sorry, isn't this what the forums have been moaning about for years now? No 'normal' people?

This x1000

[Pete.]

Chloe is down to earth and entertaining at the same time, my winner

[susie q]

Many young girls watching will identify with her. Why shouldnt ordinary people be allowed to be in big brother.

[karezza]

She's so desperate to get her hands on the loot. Horrible creature.

[Jason.]

She deserves it more than Joel and Cristian who don't even watch the show, and didn't even know who the ex-housemates were, when they entered the house.

[Jason.]

She's so desperate to get her hands on the loot. Horrible creature.

Everyone is there for the money.
Why is Chloe being singled out for this?

[Marsh.]

She deserves it more than Joel and Cristian who don't even watch the show, and didn't even know who the ex-housemates were, when they entered the house.

You need to be a BB fan? :unsure:

[JoshBB]

I like Chloe, especially when she stood up to Simon.

[Jason.]

You need to be a BB fan? :unsure:

Well, no.
But I'd rather she was in there than two people who don't even watch and are only in there to boost their profiles outside the house.

I'd rather a normal superfan than a fame-hungry person who's never seen the show, and is just there for the fame.

[andybigbro]

She said that in defence that she was least deserving. She never said she deserved it the most.

[Shaun]

She didn't say anything about "deserving it" (assuming you mean the crown), she was trying to defend her status as a housemate and has every right to be there because, um, she does. She was cast, just like the others were.

She shouldn't have to defend herself against a bunch of housemates with a teeny bit of power, theorising what the viewers want.

[Videostar]

Everyone is there for the money.
Why is Chloe being singled out for this?

Because she pushed her friends in front of the firing squad by accusing them of all being in there for fame reasons, whether that's right or wrong it's still nasty of her to slate others while painting herself out to be a working class hero.

[joeysteele]

She made a pretty big mess of her speech to be honest.

[lewis111]

Well, no.
But I'd rather she was in there than two people who don't even watch and are only in there to boost their profiles outside the house.

I'd rather a normal superfan than a fame-hungry person who's never seen the show, and is just there for the fame.

100% agree

[chuff me dizzy]

Jack works at McDonalds, isn't that normal? and Im sorry having a drug dealer for a Dad who's serving 8 yrs, isn't NORMAL

[andybigbro]

She didn't say anything about "deserving it" (assuming you mean the crown), she was trying to defend her status as a housemate and has every right to be there because, um, she does. She was cast, just like the others were.

She shouldn't have to defend herself against a bunch of housemates with a teeny bit of power, theorising what the viewers want.

:worship:

[Jason.]

Because she pushed her friends in front of the firing squad by accusing them of all being in there for fame reasons, whether that's right or wrong it's still nasty of her to slate others while painting herself out to be a working class hero.

How is that nasty?
She pointed it out, she never attacked anyone over it. Plus, it's true.
She never made her self seem like a working class hero, either. You need to re-watch it.

You're hating on her for no reason.

Most of them are in there for fame reasons. Which I think is wrong.

Big Brother isn't about making people stars. BB didn't make stars back in its heyday of 2006, so anyone (Cristian, Danny, Simon) going in there for fame in 2015 would go on expecting.

[fitz2k2]

a normal housemate has won before

[RodHull]

She's what big brother contestants are kinda meant to be. A representation of the public, and she and Jack are the only ones repressing like 95% of the population, so yes, she does deserve to be there because of it.

For one where did it say BB is supposed to represent the public
Two the public is a diverse population we arent all chavs who just want to be 'normal'
Three speak for yourself the though of Jack representing me makes me feel physically sick the useless toad.

[Marsh.]

Jack works at McDonalds, isn't that normal? and Im sorry having a drug dealer for a Dad who's serving 8 yrs, isn't NORMAL

What has her dad's life got to do with Chloe and her status within Big Brother?

[Videostar]

a normal housemate has won before

All the more reason NEVER to let that happen again...unless they are entertaining and not radar dodgers.

[Jason.]

All the more reason NEVER to let that happen again...unless they are entertaining and not radar dodgers.

I forgot fame-hungry housemates like Cristian, Danny, Simon, Joel have been entertaining.

Oh yeah, because Winston was so entertaining last year, too.

The fame-hungry ones are the worst, TBH.

[smudgie]

Woe is me, I am but a normal girl.
Yeah, well I saw the little talk she had with Adjoa on how not to get evicted.
She is playing the game, same as the rest, hence her little speech just after getting nominated.
Not a fan, but good luck to her, a better game plan than being a vile asshole.

[Videostar]

I forgot fame-hungry housemates like Cristian, Danny, Simon, Joel have been entertaining.

Oh yeah, because Winston was so entertaining last year, too.

The fame-hungry ones are the worst, TBH.

Joel has been far better a HM than Chloe has been.

[Videostar]

Woe is me, I am but a normal girl.
Yeah, well I saw the little talk she had with Adjoa on how not to get evicted.
She is playing the game, same as the rest, hence her little speech just after getting nominated.
Not a fan, but good luck to her, a better game plan than being a vile asshole.

Oh I don't know, I think Chloe has shown vile Asshole-ishness herself at times.

She has all the negative bases covered.

[Jack_]

What has her dad's life got to do with Chloe and her status within Big Brother?

:clap1: :clap1: :clap1: :clap1: :clap1: :clap1: :clap1:

And I'm not even a Chloe fan

[sosadbbend]

Really...normal is all you need now is it? :shrug:

Why not? I am all for big brother going back to basics and BB16 was near to that at the beginning and then they spoilt it!!!

[just thinkin]

thats what BB is supposed to be about....normal people....not egotistical wannabe's who think the world revolves around them and would sell their granny for an agent.

[Pete.]

What has her dad's life got to do with Chloe and her status within Big Brother?
:clap1:

[jennyjuniper]

Normal should not equal boring, but in Chloe's case it does.

[reece(:]

What has her dad's life got to do with Chloe and her status within Big Brother?
This, sick of this being brought up when it's absolutely irrelevant.

[bots]

What has her dad's life got to do with Chloe and her status within Big Brother?

Because it sets the scene for her character. She is a mid 20's WOMAN not some silly little innocent girl. She has life experience so isn't likely to cry the moment someone says something bad about her.

Simply put, it highlights the play acting she is doing in th BB house

[Nancy.]

I actually like Chloe. She seems sweet and down to earth, but i'm not sure if I'd be happy with her being the winner. She hasn't done enough, but then again, neither have the others.

[mrflibble]

Because it sets the scene for her character. She is a mid 20's WOMAN not some silly little innocent girl. She has life experience so isn't likely to cry the moment someone says something bad about her.

Simply put, it highlights the play acting she is doing in th BB house
I disagree. Her dad being a drug dealer has nothing to do with Chloe. If someone called out my mum or dad's private life and said it showed what kind of person I was, then they would clearly not know what kind of person I was. I can't go into detail for obvious reasons, but things have happened in my family which if people knew about may cause them to make similar judgments on me, but I am not involved/don't care or know and while some events may have had some effect on me, have had no bearing on my innocence/silliness/emotional-ness(?) etc. And in Chloe's case, how does her dad being a drug dealer mean that Chloe isn't likely to cry when someone says something mean? How are those two even related?

[bots]

I disagree. Her dad being a drug dealer has nothing to do with Chloe. If someone called out my mum or dad's private life and said it showed what kind of person I was, then they would clearly not know what kind of person I was. I can't go into detail for obvious reasons, but things have happened in my family which if people knew about may cause them to make similar judgments on me, but I am not involved/don't care or know and while some events may have had some effect on me, have had no bearing on my innocence/silliness/emotional-ness(?) etc. And in Chloe's case, how does her dad being a drug dealer mean that Chloe isn't likely to cry when someone says something mean? How are those two even related?

I'm not saying Chloe is a criminal, I'm simply pointing out that she is not a little girl, she is in her mid 20's and she will have dealt with some very hard times in her life, that make crying the way she has been on the show, clear play acting.

[vortex]

Don't dislike her but I can't imagine her as a winner and she's definitely playing the game, not buying those tears either.

[Rorkimaru]

I think the issue isn't that she's normal but that there is nothing distinctive about her. Like she said, all the others have these talents (though why she singled out Danny in that when he's the most normal lad in there is beyond me). Even normal, everyday people have a distinctive talent or quirk. Some sing, some do amdram, some climb mountains or ride horses. Chloe hasn't had her distinctive aspect show. She's a committed 25 year old who enjoys partying but is looking at settling down with her partner and starting a family. There's nothing wrong with that but there's nothing stand out about it either. It should be a backdrop for a character, not her whole character.

[waterhog]

Really...normal is all you need now is it? :shrug:

just doing a poem on this one line - the break down is she can not cope and see's everyone else as not normal and game playing - its to much for her - this is why i have respect for her and it would be great if she could get the strengh and do a game plan and change things.


i like her - no proposal poem just yet.:joker:

[mrflibble]

I'm not saying Chloe is a criminal, I'm simply pointing out that she is not a little girl, she is in her mid 20's and she will have dealt with some very hard times in her life, that make crying the way she has been on the show, clear play acting.
Most people have dealt with hard times in their lives, but we can't judge on how that's affected them without really knowing them. I just think that it's unfair to judge a housemate based on their pre-BB lives, especially when it's stuff like 'her dad is a drug dealer, therefore she can't possibly be a sensitive person'. That's just coming from nowhere. I'm not saying she is or isn't play acting, but that I don't think that's a valid reason to accuse her of doing so.

[just thinkin]

she's distinctive in that if she see's something she doesn't agree with she says it out - she doesn't wait to 'test the waters' to see how she should play it - she doesn't hold it in because it might make her look bad. She just says it out - she has done this on a few occasions and backed up people when they were being accused in the wrong......thats a lot more important than the 'talent' that is being shown by the other housemates...namely, making politicianlike hand motions, walking on tiptoes, weightlifting a 46 year old child, dressing up in woman's gear and acting like a lady for panto, pretending you can rap.

[bots]

Most people have dealt with hard times in their lives, but we can't judge on how that's affected them without really knowing them. I just think that it's unfair to judge a housemate based on their pre-BB lives, especially when it's stuff like 'her dad is a drug dealer, therefore she can't possibly be a sensitive person'. That's just coming from nowhere. I'm not saying she is or isn't play acting, but that I don't think that's a valid reason to accuse her of doing so.

We will need to agree to disagree as I see it as perfectly valid. Look at all the crap Harry has taken about her life outside the house. Its impossible to ignore facets that shape peoples characters and make them the people they are. I will repeat again, I'm in no way suggesting that Chloe is evil or a criminal in some way, but she does try to portray the innocent little girl where butter wouldn't melt in her mouth, and that is far far far from the reality

[Lstan]

She said the wrong things and I think she was caught off guard.

In her interview she said that this was the one big thing she wanted to do before she goes back to her regular life. She doesnt have any delusions about getting fame off this which, lets be honest alot of people go into BB for. She also said shes a huge fan of the show which is why she entered, she doesnt want any more from it.

I dunno if it was the boring which didnt help but I really think being told she "doesnt deserve it" was what actually upset her. I mean who really deserves to go on BB according to those housemates? The producers put her in so they obviously saw something, and if people dont like her they can vote her out. I think the point she was trying to make was that she is a fan of the show and just wanted the experience, but it wasnt clear from what she said. Shes not a fav of mine but I can understand where shes coming from.

[arista]

Chloe is down to earth and entertaining at the same time, my winner

who is going on Friday

[Livia]

Really...normal is all you need now is it? :shrug:

You misquoted her.

She said compared to the others in there who have aspirations of fame, she's just normal, as in "ordinary".

[Ammi]

She said the wrong things and I think she was caught off guard.

In her interview she said that this was the one big thing she wanted to do before she goes back to her regular life. She doesnt have any delusions about getting fame off this which, lets be honest alot of people go into BB for. She also said shes a huge fan of the show which is why she entered, she doesnt want any more from it.

I dunno if it was the boring which didnt help but I really think being told she "doesnt deserve it" was what actually upset her. I mean who really deserves to go on BB according to those housemates? The producers put her in so they obviously saw something, and if people dont like her they can vote her out. I think the point she was trying to make was that she is a fan of the show and just wanted the experience, but it wasnt clear from what she said. Shes not a fav of mine but I can understand where shes coming from.

...excellent post Lstan..:love:...

[ChristmasNeeve]

Yeah I also agree with Lstan.

[Lstan]

...excellent post Lstan..:love:...

Yeah I also agree with Lstan.

Thank you, darlings :love: :love: :love:

[Marsh.]

Because it sets the scene for her character. She is a mid 20's WOMAN not some silly little innocent girl. She has life experience so isn't likely to cry the moment someone says something bad about her.

Simply put, it highlights the play acting she is doing in th BB house

So, again, her tears are fake because her dad is in prison?

Ok. :pat:

I'd probably have her reaction if I'd been told by the likes of Helen Wood and the rest of the clan that I didn't "deserve" my place in the BB house because I didn't have plastic tits and sell stories to newspapers.

You and other posters are struggling to somehow validate bringing her father into the discussion when it's entirely irrelevant. It doesn't "set the scene" for her character whatsoever and what a silly remark. My own father was involved with drugs for many years, does that in anyway have anything to do with my life, who I am and anything I've done. NOT A ****ING JOT.

Yes, her father's in prison, like thousands of other people. Now let's get over it and stop bringing it into threads about a girl in the Big Brother house. It's pathetic and out of order.

[Jack_]

I personally think making insulting remarks towards or unnecessarily discussing housemates friends and family members and personal lives should be against the rules. Talking about how eccentric someone's mum seems when they talk to Emma on eviction night, fine. Hypothesising that they're a terrible parent and that said housemate obviously has an awful home life, out of order.

If I were ever a housemate and came out to find people had been dragging my friends and families into discussions there would be hell to pay. Likewise I wouldn't like it if I knew someone who went on the show and suddenly I started being discussed on forums as if I had signed up for such judgement. It's unnecessary and it's out of order.

[bots]

So, again, her tears are fake because her dad is in prison?

Ok. :pat:

I'd probably have her reaction if I'd been told by the likes of Helen Wood and the rest of the clan that I didn't "deserve" my place in the BB house because I didn't have plastic tits and sell stories to newspapers.

You and other posters are struggling to somehow validate bringing her father into the discussion when it's entirely irrelevant. It doesn't "set the scene" for her character whatsoever and what a silly remark. My own father was involved with drugs for many years, does that in anyway have anything to do with my life, who I am and anything I've done. NOT A ****ING JOT.

Yes, her father's in prison, like thousands of other people. Now let's get over it and stop bringing it into threads about a girl in the Big Brother house. It's pathetic and out of order.

Coming from the poster who delights in bringing up similar issues, thats a bit rich :pat:

[Marsh.]

Coming from the poster who delights in bringing up similar issues, thats a bit rich :pat:

Such as?

You aren't making yet another statement you're not going to bother backing up surely?

[Ammi]

I personally think making insulting remarks towards or unnecessarily discussing housemates friends and family members and personal lives should be against the rules. Talking about how eccentric someone's mum seems when they talk to Emma on eviction night, fine. Hypothesising that they're a terrible parent and that said housemate obviously has an awful home life, out of order.

If I were ever a housemate and came out to find people had been dragging my friends and families into discussions there would be hell to pay. Likewise I wouldn't like it if I knew someone who went on the show and suddenly I started being discussed on forums as if I had signed up for such judgement. It's unnecessary and it's out of order.

...slightly OT but not...do you remember the year Alex Rose was in BB and her mum joined the forum..?...they did stop I think when she joined and people chatted to her but there had been some not great stuff beforehand of the same ting and I know how upset she had been about it all, she's a lovely lady and a great/supportive parent who adores her daughter....

[Marsh.]

Such as?

You aren't making yet another statement you're not going to bother backing up surely?

I'll take the radio silence as a yes. :idc:

[Lstan]

I'll take the radio silence as a yes. :idc:

Lol its looks like you are talking to yourself :hehe:

[Moosething]

Because it sets the scene for her character. She is a mid 20's WOMAN not some silly little innocent girl. She has life experience so isn't likely to cry the moment someone says something bad about her.

Simply put, it highlights the play acting she is doing in th BB house

stop grasping at straws

[sosadbbend]

She said that in defence that she was least deserving. She never said she deserved it the most.

Exactly and Helen is so manipulative that Chloe ended up apologising to her! Hah

[Merry Mockmas]

She would be strange by Ch4 standards, but she's normal by this lots standards along with Cristian, and Kieran before he got evicted.

My main issue with Ch5 is that they don't show you unless you're in some horrible showmance, or being disgusting in some manner.

With this series for example I think the others deliberately get shown as boring so we all bow before Marc.

[Rorkimaru]

I dunno if it was the boring which didnt help but I really think being told she "doesnt deserve it" was what actually upset her. I mean who really deserves to go on BB according to those housemates? The producers put her in so they obviously saw something, and if people dont like her they can vote her out. I think the point she was trying to make was that she is a fan of the show and just wanted the experience, but it wasnt clear from what she said. Shes not a fav of mine but I can understand where shes coming from.

Housemates shouldn't be chosen on the basis of how much they'll capitalize on their 15 minutes when they get out. I'm not Chloe's #1 fan but I'm probably just indifferent to her. I certainly wouldn't call her undeserving. An interesting part of the show is that it's all sorts from all walks. I don't think you could put someone in that is undeserving. It's not a thing you can buy, it's not a holy mission and it's not a career. It's a reality show so anyone the producers pick is deserving.