Is Jade discriminated against for being Polyamorous?

[Jamie89]

When the timewarp housemates nominated Jade, the main reason they used was because she seemingly goes from one man to another. Basically they nominated her for being polyamorous.

There was also the woman who came in with Rylan when time was frozen who said that she doesn't believe Jade is polyamorous and is using it as a way to appear unique. Is she saying that polyamory isn't a real thing? The issue I have with all this is just because you can't relate to something and you don't understand it, that doesn't excuse shutting your mind off to it. I'm not polyamorous, I can't imagine I'd ever want to be and I'm pretty ignorant to it as a lifestyle, but I certainly wouldn't judge someone negatively because of my ignorance.

[Pete.]

Yes, no one is prepared to accept her http://i.imgur.com/4B44QzZ.gif

[Kizzy]

Good luck to her trying to explain that to bri, he cried when she spoke to nick :/

[SaffyrBleu]

I think the big issue is that no-one actually believes that she's polyamorous.

She's in there to play a game and try to win. They all should be playing to win by any means necessary. Imho

[Mick]

When the timewarp housemates nominated Jade, the main reason they used was because she seemingly goes from one man to another. Basically they nominated her for being polyamorous.

There was also the woman who came in with Rylan when time was frozen who said that she doesn't believe Jade is polyamorous and is using it as a way to appear unique. Is she saying that polyamory isn't a real thing? The issue I have with all this is just because you can't relate to something and you don't understand it, that doesn't excuse shutting your mind off to it. I'm not polyamorous, I can't imagine I'd ever want to be and I'm pretty ignorant to it as a lifestyle, but I certainly wouldn't judge someone negatively because of my ignorance.

RE What that woman with rylan said during the first few days of the show I agreed Jade appeared to take pleasure in the fact that most HMs could not even pronounce the word.But weeks ago I changed my mind and felt that Jade was as she said and was also brave in speaking about it probably well aware that it might cause a negative response from the public.

Most blokes will see this in the context of sex with multiple partners and even in todays enlightened society there will be a derogatory implication. I would imagine that plenty of female viewers would also feel negative about a woman being a follower of the life style.

But I think Jade is just as interested in the platonic side of it and she has shown this imo.So no I do not think she told people just to create extra interest in herself.

[Tarryn]

There is no such thing as Polyamorous, it's just a fancy way of saying "I like to sleep around".
She tries to dress it up as a spiritual thing when it's just code-word for slut.
Jade is not being discriminated against for this but for being a horrible person.

[Griffin5779]

When the timewarp housemates nominated Jade, the main reason they used was because she seemingly goes from one man to another. Basically they nominated her for being polyamorous.

There was also the woman who came in with Rylan when time was frozen who said that she doesn't believe Jade is polyamorous and is using it as a way to appear unique. Is she saying that polyamory isn't a real thing? The issue I have with all this is just because you can't relate to something and you don't understand it, that doesn't excuse shutting your mind off to it. I'm not polyamorous, I can't imagine I'd ever want to be and I'm pretty ignorant to it as a lifestyle, but I certainly wouldn't judge someone negatively because of my ignorance.

in my opinion the Polyamorous crap was created to give her the freedom to hop from guy to guy and feed off them...the brian thing is just gross from both sides

jade is fake fake...

you recall her comment two days ago.."you have been nominated just get on with it"...i imagine at that point she felt pretty sure she was safe cause she had wrapped herself around one of the nomination 4.'
did you see how she changed her tune last night when nominated..lol...she wasn't exactly just just getting on with it" lol

fake fake game player fake fake fake

[Jamie89]

There is no such thing as Polyamorous, it's just a fancy way of saying "I like to sleep around".
She tries to dress it up as a spiritual thing when it's just code-word for slut.
Jade is not being discriminated against for this but for being a horrible person.

I suppose this kind of sums up my point lol. Saying that it doesn't exist (how do you know it doesn't exist?), and simplifying the definition of it down to something that misrepresents what it actually is for the sole purpose of being derogatory about someone who is different.

[Tarryn]

I suppose this kind of sums up my point lol. Saying that it doesn't exist (how do you know it doesn't exist?), and simplifying the definition of it down to something that misrepresents what it actually is for the sole purpose of being derogatory about someone who is different.

But what's the difference :shrug:

[smiley55]

Pollyamorous is a life style choice and lots of people have chosen it. People need to learn to live and let live. It wouldn't be for me but I certainly wouldn't slate someone else for it.

[Jamie89]

But what's the difference :shrug:

The difference between polyamory and sleeping around? There's quite a lot of differences but I suppose the main thing as that polyamory is the ability to have multiple simultaneous relationships where all partners concerned understand the boundaries of the relationships, whereas sleeping around is just going from one to the next with the connotation being that the person has no or little regard for their sexual partners feelings. There are probably a lot of similarities between the two as well but my issue is that polyamory isn't really understood or widely accepted, and people seem to jump too quickly to insult it (and Jade) because of their lack of understanding of it, rather than accept and try to understand peoples differences.

[smiley55]

The difference between polyamory and sleeping around? There's quite a lot of differences but I suppose the main thing as that polyamory is the ability to have multiple simultaneous relationships where all partners concerned understand the boundaries of the relationships, whereas sleeping around is just going from one to the next with the connotation being that the person has no or little regard for their sexual partners feelings. There are probably a lot of similarities between the two as well but my issue is that polyamory isn't really understood or widely accepted, and people seem to jump too quickly to insult it (and Jade) because of their lack of understanding of it, rather than accept and try to understand peoples differences.

:clap1:

[Tarryn]

The difference between polyamory and sleeping around? There's quite a lot of differences but I suppose the main thing as that polyamory is the ability to have multiple simultaneous relationships where all partners concerned understand the boundaries of the relationships, whereas sleeping around is just going from one to the next with the connotation being that the person has no or little regard for their sexual partners feelings. There are probably a lot of similarities between the two as well but my issue is that polyamory isn't really understood or widely accepted, and people seem to jump too quickly to insult it (and Jade) because of their lack of understanding of it, rather than accept and try to understand peoples differences.

That's okay if all adults involved realise these rules but Jade seems to just play any game she wants & lead others on.
Has she really told Brian who is incredibly naive that this is how she is ?.
Sometimes I think she just uses polyamorous as a way to gain attention or to seem more interesting than she actually is.

[Griffin5779]

That's okay if all adults involved realise these rules but Jade seems to just play any game she wants & lead others on.
Has she really told Brian who is incredibly naive that this is how she is ?.
Sometimes I think she just uses polyamorous as a way to gain attention or to seem more interesting than she actually is.

And liberity to jump from housemate to housemate and say..It cause i'm polyamorous

[Jamie89]

That's okay if all adults involved realise these rules but Jade seems to just play any game she wants & lead others on.
Has she really told Brian who is incredibly naive that this is how she is ?.
Sometimes I think she just uses polyamorous as a way to gain attention or to seem more interesting than she actually is.

I think she's been extremely open about her polyamory from day 1, and she can't really be blamed for Brian's naivety.

[Tarryn]

I think she's been extremely open about her polyamory from day 1, and she can't really be blamed for Brian's naivety.

But she can be blamed for leading people on.
I just think that maybe others would have judged her differently without her always talking about her polyamorous lifestyle, which was non-stop for the opening week.
I also think that there is a certain double-standard against her too, as Nick seems to get away with far more than both Jade & Harry does.

[Beetlejuice]

Only a matter of time before people are "discriminated" against for being paedophiles.

What exactly is wrong with discrimination and prejudice?

And the problem people have with Jade anyway is that she told a blatant lie about Cristian. People are so concerned with "discrimination" and "sexism" they are prepared to turn a blind eye to bare faced lying.

[smiley55]

That's okay if all adults involved realise these rules but Jade seems to just play any game she wants & lead others on.
Has she really told Brian who is incredibly naive that this is how she is ?.
Sometimes I think she just uses polyamorous as a way to gain attention or to seem more interesting than she actually is.
Brian knows but whats him being naive got to do with it? Surely he's old enough to decide for himself!

[Tarryn]

Brian knows but whats him being naive got to do with it? Surely he's old enough to decide for himself!

You would think so but I really don't think he does...........

[Jamie89]

Only a matter of time before people are "discriminated" against for being paedophiles.

What exactly is wrong with discrimination and prejudice?

Whoa! Err, you aren't seriously comparing polyamory to paedophilia?! :nono:

There's quite a lot wrong with discrimination and prejudice (can't believe that even needs to be said). Basic humanity for example? I'm kind of hoping your post was just a bad joke to be honest

[smiley55]

But she can be blamed for leading people on.
I just think that maybe others would have judged her differently without her always talking about her polyamorous lifestyle, which was non-stop for the opening week.
I also think that there is a certain double-standard against her too, as Nick seems to get away with far more than both Jade & Harry does.
Correct me if I'm wrong here but the other hms have used the word pollyamorous more than jade. She talked about it the first two weeks if even that, but because the others are ignorant of what it means they sneer about it and call her a slut. I haven't heard jade put any of them down for how they live their lives.

[Jamie89]

Only a matter of time before people are "discriminated" against for being paedophiles.

What exactly is wrong with discrimination and prejudice?

And the problem people have with Jade anyway is that she told a blatant lie about Cristian. People are so concerned with "discrimination" and "sexism" they are prepared to turn a blind eye to bare faced lying.

Should people not be concerned about discrimination and sexism? Do you think they are good things that people should be happy about? :conf:

[Tarryn]

Correct me if I'm wrong here but the other hms have used the word pollyamorous more than jade. She talked about it the first two weeks if even that, but because the others are ignorant of what it means they sneer about it and call her a slut. I haven't heard jade put any of them down for how they live their lives.

But others are not using words to excuse their behaviour. Jade has used it as an excuse.
You clearly believe in such a thing as polyamorous, I don't.

[karezza]

There is no such thing as Polyamorous, it's just a fancy way of saying "I like to sleep around".
She tries to dress it up as a spiritual thing when it's just code-word for slut.
Jade is not being discriminated against for this but for being a horrible person.

Polyamorousphobe.:nono:

[Braden]

It annoyed me when she said Jade was being polyamorous just to be different. Who is she to say that?

I'm not bothered by most of the 'psychologists' they get on BOTS, but The Speakmans talk utter ****e. They've been on BOTS a few times now, and every time I've watched they've basically just gave their opinions with no psychoanalysis whatsoever.

[abhorson]

Nah. Helen won last year after being known as a prostitute. So i do not countenance this.

[abhorson]

It annoyed me when she said Jade was being polyamorous just to be different. Who is she to say that?

I'm not bothered by most of the 'psychologists' they get on BOTS, but The Speakmans talk utter ****e. They've been on BOTS a few times now, and every time I've watched they've basically just gave their opinions with no psychoanalysis whatsoever.

This^^

They gave no insight. As you said, just their own opinions.

[Jamie89]

But others are not using words to excuse their behaviour. Jade has used it as an excuse.
You clearly believe in such a thing as polyamorous, I don't.

And this is what it all comes down to I suppose. Polyamory is a lifestyle, and so it's not something that you can believe in or not believe in. It exists because people live their lives that way, so when you say you don't believe in it, what you're really saying is that you don't agree with it, or you're uncomfortable with it, or you just don't want to acknowledge it. These things come from you and your understanding of something, or inability to understand something, and yet it's Jade who is demonised as a result. I'd say that's discrimination

[abhorson]

There is no such thing as Polyamorous, it's just a fancy way of saying "I like to sleep around".
She tries to dress it up as a spiritual thing when it's just code-word for slut.
Jade is not being discriminated against for this but for being a horrible person.

Aye. Basically swingers with commitment issues. They like sex.

[Tarryn]

And this is what it all comes down to I suppose. Polyamory is a lifestyle, and so it's not something that you can believe in or not believe in. It exists because people live their lives that way, so when you say you don't believe in it, what you're really saying is that you don't agree with it, or you're uncomfortable with it, or you just don't want to acknowledge it. These things come from you and your understanding of something, or inability to understand something, and yet it's Jade who is demonised as a result. I'd say that's discrimination

So basically your reply is just to put me down & say that there is something wrong with me ?. Nice (!).
I could not give a flying **** how Jade attempts to justify her lifestyle outside the house but inside the house she IS using it as an excuse to behave a certain way.
DO NOT say I have an inability to understand something.
You should really think more before YOU do something you just accused me of doing to Jade.

[Rob4]

So she is basically single and likes to do whatever she wants with whom ever she wants, no harm in that!. Poly this Poly that, I though a new housemate called Polly was going in!

[smiley55]

But others are not using words to excuse their behaviour. Jade has used it as an excuse.
You clearly believe in such a thing as polyamorous, I don't. what's she done wrong? Playfully flirted with Christian, slept in nicks bed a couple of times, realky?

[abhorson]

So she is basically single and likes to do whatever she wants with whom ever she wants, no harm in that!. Poly this Poly that, I though a new housemate called Polly was going in!

Aye. That is the point.

She wants to give herself a sexual term and trying to justify it when there is no need to. Just say. 'i like sex with many partners and i don't want commitment. Nothing wrong with that.

[Tarryn]

what's she done wrong? Playfully flirted with Christian, slept in nicks bed a couple of times, realky?

She was really creepy in the way she was touching Cristian.
She has flirted with Danny & Marc & kissed Brian.
And she has the nerve to criticize Harry.

[sampvt]

Jade has done a great service to all the slappers and chavs in the country. Whereas a girl was once called loose, easy and the town bike before, these girls have now found a new vocation in life, they are now all calling themselves Polyamourous. Well done Jade for giving these girls a reason to live, but for what its worth lovie, this mans not buying your story, you are just a slag and are dressing it up with Jazzy words to look interesting.

[Beetlejuice]

Whoa! Err, you aren't seriously comparing polyamory to paedophilia?! :nono:

I just get a bit fed up when every form of degeneracy is reduced to a "life style choice" and is therefore somehow immune from criticism. Or else you're being some sort of narrow minded bigot

There's quite a lot wrong with discrimination and prejudice (can't believe that even needs to be said). Basic humanity for example? I'm kind of hoping your post was just a bad joke to be honest

A great thinker by the name of Edmund Burke once wrote in praise of prejudice.

Discrimination is a necessary part of life and prejudice "renders a man's virtue his habit". It doesn't mean you're being inhumane. And most people who speak out against prejudice have their own prejudices (usually against anything "right wing")

[armand.kay]

I don't know why people care so much, ****ing hell!

[smiley55]

Christian did the same in the pool, clearly positioned himself in behind her in the bath, don't remember her flirting with danny or mark and Brian kissed her .

[Jemal]

Lol if a guy was to say he was polyamaursaurus or whatever it is, would it be worse than what jade has received? I think so

[armand.kay]

Aye. That is the point.

She wants to give herself a sexual term and trying to justify it when there is no need to. Just say. 'i like sex with many partners and i don't want commitment. Nothing wrong with that.

It's not just sex tho she said she likes being in a relationship with many partners so obviously it's more than just sex.

[Jamie89]

So basically your reply is just to put me down & say that there is something wrong with me ?. Nice (!).
I could not give a flying **** how Jade attempts to justify her lifestyle outside the house but inside the house she IS using it as an excuse to behave a certain way.
DO NOT say I have an inability to understand something.
You should really think more before YOU do something you just accused me of doing to Jade.

Ok, if I was personal then I apologise, I'm not trying to insult you or have this descend into an argument, I just feel that it's unfair for jade (or anyone) to be judged for a lifestyle like polyamory. If you don't like her as a person then fair enough but bringing it back to the original point, if people are forming their opinions on her based on her polyamory then I think that constitutes discrimination.

[just thinkin]

the more I think of it, the more I am beginning to believe that shady jady and her boyfriend...yes (I have someone on the outside) had a little discussion about how best to win the money on BB.

they decided she would be polyamourous, i.e. get what she can and do what she has to do to get the money...hence the 'excuse' for jumping from male to male in the house...polyamorousy covers all that.

IN actual fact I don't think she knows herself what it is.

She's out to use whoever and whatever she can to get ahead....not to be trusted.

[armand.kay]

Lol if a guy was to say he was polyamaursaurus or whatever it is, would it be worse than what jade has received? I think so

No lol guys talk about sleeping around all the time and get no stick for it, so I doubt anyone would give a **** tbh :shrug:

[Beetlejuice]

Should people not be concerned about discrimination and sexism? Do you think they are good things that people should be happy about? :conf:

They can be if they want but not at the expense of the truth.

Look at this whole thread... People are purposely misunderstanding the criticisms of Jade so they can get on their high horse about sexism.

People's problem with Jade is that she told a bare faced lie about Cristian coming on to her. Apparently the truth has to be buried beneath all this crap about sexism in the same way the truth about young girls being abused had to be buried beneath accusations of racism towards anyone who brought it up.

I'm fed up with people lying.

[Tarryn]

Ok, if I was personal then I apologise, I'm not trying to insult you or have this descend into an argument, I just feel that it's unfair for jade (or anyone) to be judged for a lifestyle like polyamory. If you don't like her as a person then fair enough but bringing it back to the original point, if people are forming their opinions on her based on her polyamory then I think that constitutes discrimination.

Thank you for the apology.
I don't mind Jade but I personally feel that sometimes she has brought the negative reactions on herself by using polyamorous.
But I have also said that I think she IS being sexually discriminated against as a man would get away with it. Just look at Nick.

[sungrass]

When the timewarp housemates nominated Jade, the main reason they used was because she seemingly goes from one man to another. Basically they nominated her for being polyamorous.

There was also the woman who came in with Rylan when time was frozen who said that she doesn't believe Jade is polyamorous and is using it as a way to appear unique. Is she saying that polyamory isn't a real thing? The issue I have with all this is just because you can't relate to something and you don't understand it, that doesn't excuse shutting your mind off to it. I'm not polyamorous, I can't imagine I'd ever want to be and I'm pretty ignorant to it as a lifestyle, but I certainly wouldn't judge someone negatively because of my ignorance.


Id give it a try

[abhorson]

It's not just sex tho she said she likes being in a relationship with many partners so obviously it's more than just sex.

So, a reverse harem would be good for her!

She does not want commitment at this time. She likes many partners who will give different sexual needs.

[sungrass]

the more I think of it, the more I am beginning to believe that shady jady and her boyfriend...yes (I have someone on the outside) had a little discussion about how best to win the money on BB.

they decided she would be polyamourous, i.e. get what she can and do what she has to do to get the money...hence the 'excuse' for jumping from male to male in the house...polyamorousy covers all that.

IN actual fact I don't think she knows herself what it is.

She's out to use whoever and whatever she can to get ahead....not to be trusted.


its not the kind of thing that makes a winner - so a bit of a pointless plan - and what on Earth about Nick - he and her are the same

Like Jade

[JTM45]

She's just said to Brian that she was in a monogamous relationship up until a month before going into the house so that just further confirms the fact that she probably spotted something on the net about being polyamorous just before going in the house and thought it would make her seem more interesting.
I think she's just one of these girls that finds it hard to be faithful because she can't resist male attention............going on how she's behaved in the house anyway!

I just find her ridiculous!!!!:laugh:

[chuff me dizzy]

As Helen said Polyamorous is just a tag to make her sound interesting

[Northern Monkey]

Tbh.Polyamorous is just a word to excuse slaggin it around.Anyone could say they're polyamorous whenever they cheat.

[Cherie]

She's just said to Brian that she was in a monogamous relationship up until a month before going into the house so that just further confirms the fact that she probably spotted something on the net about being polyamorous just before going in the house and thought it would make her seem more interesting.
I think she's just one of these girls that finds it hard to be faithful because she can't resist male attention............going on how she's behaved in the house anyway!

I just find her ridiculous!!!!:laugh:

So she has chatted and flirted, big deal, the way some people are going on, anyone would think she had committed to a relationship with all of them :laugh:

[Tarryn]

As Helen said Polyamorous is just a tag to make her sound interesting

If this is the case then how did Danny get selected :conf:
There is NOTHING interesting about him :sleep:

[Cherie]

If this is the case then how did Danny get selected :conf:
There is NOTHING interesting about him :sleep:

He has that natty polo neck that he wears with a jacket...and I've seen a glimpse of a neckerchief. :laugh:

[Tarryn]

He has that natty polo neck that he wears with a jacket...and I've seen a glimpse of a neckerchief. :laugh:

Danny is such a tease :hehe:

[smudgie]

He has that natty polo neck that he wears with a jacket...and I've seen a glimpse of a neckerchief. :laugh:

:laugh::laugh:That's the most interesting thing I have read about him.

[Jamie89]

They can be if they want but not at the expense of the truth.

Look at this whole thread... People are purposely misunderstanding the criticisms of Jade so they can get on their high horse about sexism.

People's problem with Jade is that she told a bare faced lie about Cristian coming on to her. Apparently the truth has to be buried beneath all this crap about sexism in the same way the truth about young girls being abused had to be buried beneath accusations of racism towards anyone who brought it up.

I'm fed up with people lying.

You've made some fair points about jade's character in your posts but the point of this thread isn't about whether or not she's a good person, or even whether people like her or not, or if there's value in prejudice or discrimination. The question is, is jade discriminated against because she's polyamorous? My worry is, if the answer is yes, is that it means we're forming our opinion of someone based on the fact they have a lifestyle that people don't fully understand (myself included) rather than look to see past her lifestyle choice and judge her as a person.

[Jemal]

No lol guys talk about sleeping around all the time and get no stick for it, so I doubt anyone would give a **** tbh :shrug:

Exactly. Shes using it as a excuse to sleep around, i'm shocked this is even a thread lol

[Beetlejuice]

The question is, is jade discriminated against because she's polyamorous? My worry is, if the answer is yes, is that it means we're forming our opinion of someone based on the fact they have a lifestyle that people don't fully understand (myself included) rather than look to see past her lifestyle choice and judge her as a person.

I think her claim to be polyamorous in a country that cares more about people being "discriminated" againt because of their "life style choice" is shielding her from the real criticism of her being a bare faced liar.

I don't particularly care for Cristian. He's a bore and if he goes, so be it. But the attempts to save her from eviction by actually making her out to be a victim in all this, when she's telling what could be, in the real world at least, very damaging lies staggers me.

She could have defended herself very easily last night... She could have just said she's a very tactile person who does like cuddling up to men but that there is nothing more than that in it, apart from with Brian who she genuinely likes. Instead, Cristian accused her of what he did and she turned the truth on its head and made him out to be the one who was after her when we've all seen his discomfort at the way she was draping herself over him.

As for her polyamory, or "polyamorousey" as she mistakenly calls it, I think it's a total con. She claims to have done the research into it and seen people about it and why she was always cheating on her boyfriend and yet she still doesn't know the actual word for it. The girl is a fraud and a liar and people are making her out to be a victim. I wish it were unbelievable to me, but people would rather celebrate themselves for their open mindedness about these things in this day and age, rather than condemn an obvious fake.

[Griffin5779]

Pollyamorous is a life style choice and lots of people have chosen it. People need to learn to live and let live. It wouldn't be for me but I certainly wouldn't slate someone else for it.

Hey anyone got any good web links that explain this Pollyamorous life style thing?

All i found was a definition...

Partipation in simultaneous loving or sexual relationships with multiple partners named Polly.
Pollyamorous Johnny had to label his girlfriends Polly1, Polly2 and Polly3 in order to keep track.

[Jamie89]

I think her claim to be polyamorous in a country that cares more about people being "discriminated" againt because of their "life style choice" is shielding her from the real criticism of her being a bare faced liar.

I don't particularly care for Cristian. He's a bore and if he goes, so be it. But the attempts to save her from eviction by actually making her out to be a victim in all this, when she's telling what could be, in the real world at least, very damaging lies staggers me.

She could have defended herself very easily last night... She could have just said she's a very tactile person who does like cuddling up to men but that there is nothing more than that in it, apart from with Brian who she genuinely likes. Instead, Cristian accused her of what he did and she turned the truth on its head and made him out to be the one who was after her when we've all seen his discomfort at the way she was draping herself over him.

As for her polyamory, or "polyamorousey" as she mistakenly calls it, I think it's a total con. She claims to have done the research into it and seen people about it and why she was always cheating on her boyfriend and yet she still doesn't know the actual word for it. The girl is a fraud and a liar and people are making her out to be a victim. I wish it were unbelievable to me, but people would rather celebrate themselves for their open mindedness about these things in this day and age, rather than condemn an obvious fake.

I would rather live in a country that cares about people being discriminated against for their lifestyle choices than one that doesn't. I get where you're coming from and if people don't like jade for who she is then fine but when it comes to issues like prejudice and discrimination then we should absolutely celebrate open mindedness.

[just thinkin]

its not the kind of thing that makes a winner - so a bit of a pointless plan - and what on Earth about Nick - he and her are the same

Like Jade

no, but a 'romance' in the house would be.....she's not the brightest spark our Jade, and she went from one to the other depending on who could offer the best 'deal' on any given week.....she just wasn't smart enough to pull it off.
She should watch and learn from Nick....the professional. :joker:

[just thinkin]

So she has chatted and flirted, big deal, the way some people are going on, anyone would think she had committed to a relationship with all of them :laugh:

nothing genuine about this girl at all....

ever hear the saying.....you can fool some of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time.

[just thinkin]

You've made some fair points about jade's character in your posts but the point of this thread isn't about whether or not she's a good person, or even whether people like her or not, or if there's value in prejudice or discrimination. The question is, is jade discriminated against because she's polyamorous? My worry is, if the answer is yes, is that it means we're forming our opinion of someone based on the fact they have a lifestyle that people don't fully understand (myself included) rather than look to see past her lifestyle choice and judge her as a person.

no she's not....because she hasn't a clue herself what polyamorous is...she only used it to make her free and single in the bb house thinking all the boys would run to her.... bad move. her lies are catching up to her...still at least she can go back to her boyfriend.

[just thinkin]

I would rather live in a country that cares about people being discriminated against for their lifestyle choices than one that doesn't. I get where you're coming from and if people don't like jade for who she is then fine but when it comes to issues like prejudice and discrimination then we should absolutely celebrate open mindedness.

Liam....its' a posh word for a swinger....swingers have been around for decades with no problem. she's not being discriminated against - she's just found out to be a user and a liar.

[abhorson]

I think her claim to be polyamorous in a country that cares more about people being "discriminated" againt because of their "life style choice" is shielding her from the real criticism of her being a bare faced liar.

I don't particularly care for Cristian. He's a bore and if he goes, so be it. But the attempts to save her from eviction by actually making her out to be a victim in all this, when she's telling what could be, in the real world at least, very damaging lies staggers me.

She could have defended herself very easily last night... She could have just said she's a very tactile person who does like cuddling up to men but that there is nothing more than that in it, apart from with Brian who she genuinely likes. Instead, Cristian accused her of what he did and she turned the truth on its head and made him out to be the one who was after her when we've all seen his discomfort at the way she was draping herself over him.

As for her polyamory, or "polyamorousey" as she mistakenly calls it, I think it's a total con. She claims to have done the research into it and seen people about it and why she was always cheating on her boyfriend and yet she still doesn't know the actual word for it. The girl is a fraud and a liar and people are making her out to be a victim. I wish it were unbelievable to me, but people would rather celebrate themselves for their open mindedness about these things in this day and age, rather than condemn an obvious fake.

:worship::clap1::clap1:

[Jamie89]

Liam....its' a posh word for a swinger....swingers have been around for decades with no problem. she's not being discriminated against - she's just found out to be a user and a liar.

Polyamory and swinging are different things (even if one does sound posher) as I explained in one of my previous posts (I cant be bothered to keep repeating myself lol). Again, it just comes down to a lack of understanding

[abhorson]

Polyamory and swinging are different things (even if one does sound posher) as I explained in one of my previous posts (I cant be bothered to keep repeating myself lol). Again, it just comes down to a lack of understanding

Both show a lack of commitment to an individual regarding sex. Nothing wrong with that, but they are related. Do not try to pretend otherwise.

[Beetlejuice]

I would rather live in a country that cares about people being discriminated against for their lifestyle choices than one that doesn't.

I've already said that I think discrimination in some forms is perfectly right and proper. There's no such thing as tolerance, just ever changing fashions of intolerance. And that's fine depending on what it is people aren't prepared to tolerate. Some things shouldn't be tolerated... Like lying. And some "lifestyle choices" are entirely degenerate.

I'm pretty open minded about these things myself. But when I see the truth being buried underneath a pile of nonsense and self congratulation for how progressive people are, that's when I get fed up.


I get where you're coming from and if people don't like jade for who she is then fine but when it comes to issues like prejudice and discrimination then we should absolutely celebrate open mindedness.

But she isn't who she claims to be. And is telling lies about another person. That's what she is being criticized for. I couldn't care less if she wants to carry on like - what would have at one time been called - a tart.

[Cherie]

nothing genuine about this girl at all....

ever hear the saying.....you can fool some of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time.

Ohhh does someone like genuine......:hehe:

[DemolitionRed]

There is no such thing as Polyamorous, it's just a fancy way of saying "I like to sleep around".
She tries to dress it up as a spiritual thing when it's just code-word for slut.
Jade is not being discriminated against for this but for being a horrible person.

I'm poly. My partner has another lover who is also my best friend. We are monogamous within that triangle and have been for the last 6 years. She's not only his lover, she's another soul mate. She doesn't sleep around, I don't sleep around, my partner doesn't sleep around. Poly is not being a swinger or even in an open marriage, its more often about full and committed relationships with more than one person which may or may not include sex. I for example, don't have sex with anyone other than my husband but I'm still in a polyamorous relationship.

I don't normally tell people around me that we are polyamorous because people don't understand the meanings behind that word...its such an alien thing. Even Wiki is confused about its definition!

What Jade is doing in the house is absolutely nothing to do with being poly. It takes a minimum of two people to venture into polyamorous situation; both have to agree that one or both want to find another partner. Jade openly flirting with other men in the house is just Jade being flirty but has absolutely nothing to do with polyamory.

[Tom4784]

Not here for people questioning her polyamourosity tbh.

[chuff me dizzy]

If this is the case then how did Danny get selected :conf:
There is NOTHING interesting about him :sleep:

Dannys good looking :blush2:

[Vicky.]

Meh, the polyamouros thing seems to be something to make her seem interesting..

[Northern Monkey]

Even if she'd never come out with the word 'polyamorous' she would still be seen badly for the way she's been running to the popular man of the hour each week.She's tried to excuse it but it's just we're all not as stupid as she thinks.

[Vicky.]

Even if she'd never come out with the word 'polyamorous' she would still be seen badly for the way she's been running to the popular man of the hour each week.She's tried to excuse it but it's just we're all not as stupid as she thinks.

She's not really done that though really. Yes she has flirted with a few but thats no crime.

My problem with her is that she denied flirting with Cristian, when we have seen it plain as day.. :joker:

[sampvt]

The fact that she says she is polyamourous is one thing but the real bit I don't get is that she actually thinks she is stunning. She is far from that, she is a pretty girl but nowhere near as beautiful as her own perception of her own self. I think she needs a reality check.

[abhorson]

I'm poly. My partner has another lover who is also my best friend. We are monogamous within that triangle and have been for the last 6 years. She's not only his lover, she's another soul mate. She doesn't sleep around, I don't sleep around, my partner doesn't sleep around. Poly is not being a swinger or even in an open marriage, its more often about full and committed relationships with more than one person which may or may not include sex. I for example, don't have sex with anyone other than my husband but I'm still in a polyamorous relationship.

I don't normally tell people around me that we are polyamorous because people don't understand the meanings behind that word...its such an alien thing. Even Wiki is confused about its definition!

What Jade is doing in the house is absolutely nothing to do with being poly. It takes a minimum of two people to venture into polyamorous situation; both have to agree that one or both want to find another partner. Jade openly flirting with other men in the house is just Jade being flirty but has absolutely nothing to do with polyamory.

Still commitment problems to an individual. Nothing wrong with it. But still an issue. Even if you believe it not to be so.

[armand.kay]

Exactly. Shes using it as a excuse to sleep around, i'm shocked this is even a thread lol
Umm I never said that... I used the 'guy get away with sleeping around' thing as an example to show that the probably of a guy being slated for being pollyamorous as much as or more than Jade is being is low.

Also in our culture sleeping around is more normal and accepted than being pollyamorous so I don't get why it would be used as an excuse :shrug:

[DemolitionRed]

Still commitment problems to an individual. Nothing wrong with it. But still an issue. Even if you believe it not to be so.

Well it may be an issue to you but its certainly not an issue to us. Still nice of you to judge us!!

[Vicky.]

Still commitment problems to an individual. Nothing wrong with it. But still an issue. Even if you believe it not to be so.

I don't think so really. If everyone involved is happy with the situation then whats the problem :shrug:

Monogamy is not for everyone. Hell how many people cheat on their partners? Surely its better to be open and honest about it all and find a situation that fits everyone. I think so anyway.

[Lstan]

When the timewarp housemates nominated Jade, the main reason they used was because she seemingly goes from one man to another. Basically they nominated her for being polyamorous.

There was also the woman who came in with Rylan when time was frozen who said that she doesn't believe Jade is polyamorous and is using it as a way to appear unique. Is she saying that polyamory isn't a real thing? The issue I have with all this is just because you can't relate to something and you don't understand it, that doesn't excuse shutting your mind off to it. I'm not polyamorous, I can't imagine I'd ever want to be and I'm pretty ignorant to it as a lifestyle, but I certainly wouldn't judge someone negatively because of my ignorance.

I think its more that the way Jade spoke about it in the beginning it came off as her not knowing what she was talking about which was the reason people thought she was lying about it. Other female housemates have been nominated on similar issues (ie sam and harry not being single/it not being clear if they are single) so make of that what you will.

[sampvt]

You are all arguing the toss and defending her poligamistic views when in reality, she isn't even in the same ballpark as a polyamorous being, she is just a regular run of the mill slapper with average looks and an inflated ego. Nothing more or less than that so that makes her a scammer using a story for personal gain.