Anyone have any doubts about Helen now?

[abhorson]

What a nasty piece of work. Vile and then some.

[Will.]

well we've had more drama in this week than the last 5, so Im all for it!

[Beetlejuice]

Is it true though? :hehe:

[karezza]

She's a fantastic housemate.

[sampvt]

brilliant hm

[ash2012]

tbh brilliant housemate, she bring controversy,

[Mystic Mock]

She shouldn't wish the poor guy dead.

His a bigger legend than the 3 legends combined.

[Mystic Mock]

She shouldn't wish the poor guy dead.

His a bigger legend than the 3 legends combined.

[Pete.]

Vile vile woman, no one should still be fans of her

[ebandit]

mark lovers her...............

Mark L

[EspeonBB]

She is abhorrent. The fact people willingly support this thing baffles me

[Kazanne]

She shouldn't wish the poor guy dead.

His a bigger legend than the 3 legends combined.

She didn't wish him dead ,she said she wouldn't care if he was and im betting we all say **** things in anger if we are honest we'll admit it.

[Denver]

She is a legend go I love her

[Moosething]

She causes drama, but someone like that should never have even gotten close to being crowned winner

[Kazanne]

Vile vile woman, no one should still be fans of her

oh stop with the over dramatics,she's a great housemate

[ebandit]

imagine spending your hard earned £ on a good time............and they sent

helen?

Mark L

[reece(:]

Anything she says will be excused as ..so what she's a great HM. There's a line and she's 100 miles over it.

[ThriceShy]

Can't believe anyone supports her. It truly is bizarre.

[GypsyGoth]

I wish Helen was a real housemate, she would win this series as well :laugh:

[Moosething]

I wish Helen was a real housemate, she would win this series as well :laugh:

R u high

[susie q]

The good news is that she has seen her tactical voting go horribly wrong. She has also wrecked Marcs chances of winning now.

[GypsyGoth]

R u high

Nope, I don't do drugs. Danny is meant to be the alpha male and he threw a tantrum and then ran off and cried in the storeroom after arguing with her. She even makes Marc seem tame by comparison.

So yep, I believe she would win this year if she was a regular housemate.

[rocket]

I wish Helen was a real housemate, she would win this series as well :laugh:

You are joking of course

[rusticgal]

She is vile. She cannot discuss issues..she just shouts people down and resorts to vile personal criticism.
She then goes into the diary room and slates people for doing the very thing she does. She is never sorry for her comments, even though she knows she oversteps the mark. If you don't fawn over Helen and worship the ground she walks on then you get slaughtered by her
One day she will get her come uppance.
I understood Danny's frustration..because she will argue til the cows come home. She's a massive wind up merchant. Danny was good tonight..he was right what he said...but the brassy chav just can't put a sock in it. She just has to have the last word...she is incapable of any discussion and incapable of accepting that thing she says are way out of line.

[GypsyGoth]

You are joking of course

I'm not. Her and Ashleigh were brilliant last year, they made the series, I'd be happy with Hellen back this year as a proper housemate.

edit: and I think she win because unlike last year when she had a feud with Ashleigh, this year I don't think anyone would stand up to her, so she win the show even easier this time.

[Smithy]

Not entirely sure why the hate is justified, what exactly has she done wrong :conf: why is she vile?

[Patricia4]

She is a legend go I love her

Me too :dance:

[MojoNixon]

What a nasty piece of work. Vile and then some.

She always was, and always will be. Same thing with Marc this year. But producers have selected him to win already.

[Jase.]

lol I think we all know Helen's trash

[andybigbro]

Disgusting. I actually can't stand the vile cretin.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Literally what on earth is there to like about Helen

[andybigbro]

Not entirely sure why the hate is justified, what exactly has she done wrong :conf: why is she vile?

She's an obnoxious, nasty , loud mouth, ignorant horrible person. Who interprets conversations wrong and kicks of and gets involved for no reason.

[Northern Monkey]

No surprises.She's always been an horrible little troll.

[sungrass]

Is it true though? :hehe:

Always keep your memory! Watch the first 20 mins of Mondays show if you need a reminder of what she is.

[abhorson]

Not entirely sure why the hate is justified, what exactly has she done wrong :conf: why is she vile?

Google is your friend.

[sungrass]

She's an obnoxious, nasty , loud mouth, ignorant horrible person. Who interprets conversations wrong and kicks of and gets involved for no reason.
Helen -

"Picking, Picking he said I was Picking - you need to look Picking up in the dictionary"

"he said I was picking - I havent picked on anyone he said Picking he said Picking he said Picking Picking Picking

Brian

" JUST SHUT THE F UP HELEN"

[joeysteele]

She is not in the running to win this series, she will not be there much longer.
In fact for me, all 3 of the old housemates would have been out tonight.

However, she is really no different to how she was in her series last year,so I cannot condemn her now since I didn't then.

She was wrong 100% to say what she did as to Victor in my view,I have to condemn that.

[Smithy]

Google is your friend.
Wow well that's a good way to support your argument :rolleyes:
She's an obnoxious, nasty , loud mouth, ignorant horrible person. Who interprets conversations wrong and kicks of and gets involved for no reason.

How though, I didn't really like her last year, but this year she's said nothing but the truth, she's confronted people about their bitching and shut down people stirring ****, what's wrong with that

[kistar]

She didn't wish him dead ,she said she wouldn't care if he was and im betting we all say **** things in anger if we are honest we'll admit it.

I have never said I wouldnt care if someone I didn't like much was dead, I am an adult in charge of my own mouth and mind , what a revolting thing to say and you are suggesting we all might stoop that low?

[kistar]

Not entirely sure why the hate is justified, what exactly has she done wrong :conf: why is she vile?

If you don't know , not sure there is much point explaining:pat:

[kistar]

Wow well that's a good way to support your argument :rolleyes:


How though, I didn't really like her last year, but this year she's said nothing but the truth, she's confronted people about their bitching and shut down people stirring ****, what's wrong with that

Brian said it all really , when she was calling him a freak and a wierdo and telling him Jade would **** him off when he got out because why would she wait for a prick like him, he said he had never got personal with her he stuck to the point of an argument . If you research the word integrity it may help.

[jegmeister]

Not entirely sure why the hate is justified, what exactly has she done wrong :conf: why is she vile?

I find it absolutely unbelievable that you even ask that question. If tonight's events don't make you realise what a horrible piece of work she is, then there really is no hope for you. There are none so blind as those who cannot see.

[jegmeister]

Brian said it all really , when she was calling him a freak and a wierdo and telling him Jade would **** him off when he got out because why would she wait for a prick like him, he said he had never got personal with her he stuck to the point of an argument . If you research the word integrity it may help.

And that's the thing about her. She bangs on all the time about "the truth" when she is the biggest liar in there. I would be telling her - you want the truth - here it is, Helen. You're the worst winner in BB history.

[Kazanne]

I have never said I wouldnt care if someone I didn't like much was dead, I am an adult in charge of my own mouth and mind , what a revolting thing to say and you are suggesting we all might stoop that low?

Anyone that says they have never said anything vile or bad is telling porkies imo,

[abhorson]

I find it absolutely unbelievable that you even ask that question. If tonight's events don't make you realise what a horrible piece of work she is, then there really is no hope for you. There are none so blind as those who cannot see.

Weird isn't it!

[Kizzy]

Anyone that says they have never said anything vile or bad is telling porkies imo,

You only have to see some of the posts about helen to know that's true.

[kistar]

Anyone that says they have never said anything vile or bad is telling porkies imo,

Depends how low you are prepared to go, you can't use death though , I wouldn't care if he \she was dead?

[D_LO_]

I've read a ton of easy adjectives like 'bully' or 'vile' but there's very few examples to back it up. The maths doesn't add up.

She got the wrong end up the stick re. Victor for a start and took that too personal and went too far which was totally unnecessary (agreed with Danny for once until he lost it like a fool again) but other than that the stuff with Brian is total clutching. There's a real under-current of bias (both towards Brian and against Helen on this forum) which is detracting a lot from reality... Facebook is reflecting a much more balanced view from what I've been seeing...

For the record I hadn't watched other recent Big Brothers and as such had little or no knowledge about Helen but didn't have her on a pedestal like I may have slightly had with Nikki and Brian but after this week, Brian has gone down massively in my estimations (if Helen had told him to eat **** and all the rest from his unwarranted outbursts the outrage on here would be palpable) I really liked him before but now I think he's one of the worst people in the house (nearly on a par with Jack and Christian, that bad!) Whereas I don't in the slightest get the strength of feeling against Helen from anything that's happened in this series at all.

She could have taken the easy road by submersing herself with the majority originals but instead she's associated herself with Simon and Marc, the unpopular house-mates with no gain to herself. People slam her motives when all I find myself doing is commending them and her support for the unpopular, despite my attempts to try and understand what so many on here say; it just doesn't seem to hold up in reality.

[ozzyshaggah]

she is absolutely brilliant

QUEEN HELEN of BIG BROTHER ...the legend continues on

[Marsh.]

She only pointed out he likes a sniff. Hardly throwing around pedo rumours or something is it?

[Lstan]

She didn't wish him dead ,she said she wouldn't care if he was and im betting we all say **** things in anger if we are honest we'll admit it.

C'on Kazanne, you should know exaggeration is the main game in these forums.
And I hate to admit it its true-a lot of us do often say stupid things when we're angry.

[jegmeister]

I've read a ton of easy adjectives like 'bully' or 'vile' but there's very few examples to back it up. The maths doesn't add up.

She got the wrong end up the stick re. Victor for a start and took that too personal and went too far which was totally unnecessary (agreed with Danny for once until he lost it like a fool again) but other than that the stuff with Brian is total clutching. There's a real under-current of bias (both towards Brian and against Helen on this forum) which is detracting a lot from reality... Facebook is reflecting a much more balanced view from what I've been seeing...

For the record I hadn't watched other recent Big Brothers and as such had little or no knowledge about Helen but didn't have her on a pedestal like I may have slightly had with Nikki and Brian but after this week, Brian has gone down massively in my estimations (if Helen had told him to eat **** and all the rest from his unwarranted outbursts the outrage on here would be palpable) I really liked him before but now I think he's one of the worst people in the house (nearly on a par with Jack and Christian, that bad!) Whereas I don't in the slightest get the strength of feeling against Helen from anything that's happened in this series at all.

She could have taken the easy road by submersing herself with the majority originals but instead she's associated herself with Simon and Marc, the unpopular house-mates with no gain to herself. People slam her motives when all I find myself doing is commending them and her support for the unpopular, despite my attempts to try and understand what so many on here say; it just doesn't seem to hold up in reality.

It's not bias - she is a bully, plain and simple. A bully belittles people in order to make themselves look good. Now if you can't see that Helen is behaving like a bully towards Brian, Danny and Christian then it is simply because you choose not to. The evidence is plentiful if you look. And can we please do without the "I tell the truth" rubbish. Her "truth" is simply her opinion forced down everyone else's throat.

[Razor]

I hate seeing her on my TV. Can't believe I have to put up with another year of her vile duck face.

[Calderyon]

I never thought i would say this, but i think i would have preferred Gina or Toya in there than this Helen one.

[qwerty42]

how did she win last year?

[mrflibble]

Can't wait for her to leave. Had to put up with the bore for the entire series last year, can't believe we've had to put up with her again! I didn't even watch BOTS this year just because I knew she'd appear, ugh.

[sosadbbend]

well we've had more drama in this week than the last 5, so Im all for it!

I personally don't want her kind of drama, not interested! Bring back the 4 that were evicted and get back to normality! They should have left the series as it was and let it play out instead of panicking and throwing everything but the kitchen sink at the show!

[DemolitionRed]

She will always have a admirers because she is what some people aspire to be like.

[mr rochester]

Same thing with Marc this year. But producers have selected him to win already.


Bang on right - the whole thing has been a charade this year - its a platform to launch an oil on the public…everyone else in the show should have stayed home...

[Withano]

I had to leave the room, she's a walking migraine

[Kazanne]

I've read a ton of easy adjectives like 'bully' or 'vile' but there's very few examples to back it up. The maths doesn't add up.

She got the wrong end up the stick re. Victor for a start and took that too personal and went too far which was totally unnecessary (agreed with Danny for once until he lost it like a fool again) but other than that the stuff with Brian is total clutching. There's a real under-current of bias (both towards Brian and against Helen on this forum) which is detracting a lot from reality... Facebook is reflecting a much more balanced view from what I've been seeing...

For the record I hadn't watched other recent Big Brothers and as such had little or no knowledge about Helen but didn't have her on a pedestal like I may have slightly had with Nikki and Brian but after this week, Brian has gone down massively in my estimations (if Helen had told him to eat **** and all the rest from his unwarranted outbursts the outrage on here would be palpable) I really liked him before but now I think he's one of the worst people in the house (nearly on a par with Jack and Christian, that bad!) Whereas I don't in the slightest get the strength of feeling against Helen from anything that's happened in this series at all.

She could have taken the easy road by submersing herself with the majority originals but instead she's associated herself with Simon and Marc, the unpopular house-mates with no gain to herself. People slam her motives when all I find myself doing is commending them and her support for the unpopular, despite my attempts to try and understand what so many on here say; it just doesn't seem to hold up in reality.

What a great post:worship:

[chuff me dizzy]

Vile , really ? she's AMAZING and along with Marc has been the saviour of this series

[Robodog]

The irony is.....

There is SOOO much more hate TOWARDS Helen than there is coming FROM Helen

People calling Helen names far worse than she calls other people.

Brian screaming at her what a 'bully' she is etc, yet she doesn't scream accusations at him. Yet she gets the blame.

Danny argues with her and then physically smashes things. Helen doesn't turn physical - yet she gets the blame.

etc etc

The problem is that people are so used to the good guy/bad guy mentality from films/TV etc that they have learned to 'hate' the so called villains before they even open their mouths.

A bit like in a pantomime - as soon as the villain walks on stage - everybody boos - bang on cue. The villain doesn't need to 'do' anything. People will boo if they have been told - this person is the 'bad guy'. It's learned behaviour.

People have learned to 'hate' Helen. And because - everyone else is doing it - they all join in and think it's 'ok' to hate her.

Helen has been annoying at the start of her series and a few moment since - but she has been constantly demonised and hated by BOTS panellists, audience members, crowds etc - even when other people (like Brian) start it - everyone blames Helen automatically and all applaud each other every time an audience member etc vents some nasty words/hatred towards her.

It's sickening to watch such hypocrisy.

The worst example so far is that dreadful psych couple - the speakmans - saying 'Helen has no soul!'. That is disgusting, vile language - and coming from someone in a professional capacity makes it 1000x times worse and more nasty than anything Helen has said.

If you hate Helen so much for her 'bullying' and vile language - why do the same to her?

If there is any 'bullying' going on right now - it's the way Helen is being treated by the unthinking masses.

Angry herd mentality and hypocrisy at it's worst.

[bots]

Helen is incredibly astute at finding peoples weaknesses then pushing the button and watching them implode. It takes a very confident and assured person to deal with it correctly. Usually the person retaliates and pushes things too far giving Helen back the moral high ground. There are not many that can survive the wrath of Helen

[kistar]

Helen is incredibly astute at finding peoples weaknesses then pushing the button and watching them implode. It takes a very confident and assured person to deal with it correctly. Usually the person retaliates and pushes things too far giving Helen back the moral high ground. There are not many that can survive the wrath of Helen

Giving back Helen the moral high ground? You think she is astute?
If she can't win an argument she shuts you down by shouting personal insults at you loudly so you can't get a word in edge ways , that's not arguing thats just shouting. Why does she need to shout at people? Astute people would keep their cool and stick to the subject at hand rather than be so angry you say things you regret , she was in the diary room crying after she made Danny upset, thats not astute that's stupid.

[Jason.]

I preferred Helen in BB15. At least she was funny last year, and we actually saw her having some fun.

This year she seems more negative. I'm not a massive fan of her this year. But I don't think she's bullied anyone this year, like she did last year.

What she said about Victor was vitriolic and uncalled for. And I don't even like Victor.

But she has Danny, Jack, and Cristian spot on. Especially Cristian.

[smiley55]

I was beginning to warm to her until she nommed jade, I honestly thought shed try to get rid of the clique, that would have changed the house but she fell down by listening to other peoples lies

[kistar]

The irony is.....

There is SOOO much more hate TOWARDS Helen than there is coming FROM Helen

People calling Helen names far worse than she calls other people.

Brian screaming at her what a 'bully' she is etc, yet she doesn't scream accusations at him. Yet she gets the blame.

Danny argues with her and then physically smashes things. Helen doesn't turn physical - yet she gets the blame.

etc etc

The problem is that people are so used to the good guy/bad guy mentality from films/TV etc that they have learned to 'hate' the so called villains before they even open their mouths.

A bit like in a pantomime - as soon as the villain walks on stage - everybody boos - bang on cue. The villain doesn't need to 'do' anything. People will boo if they have been told - this person is the 'bad guy'. It's learned behaviour.

People have learned to 'hate' Helen. And because - everyone else is doing it - they all join in and think it's 'ok' to hate her.

Helen has been annoying at the start of her series and a few moment since - but she has been constantly demonised and hated by BOTS panellists, audience members, crowds etc - even when other people (like Brian) start it - everyone blames Helen automatically and all applaud each other every time an audience member etc vents some nasty words/hatred towards her.

It's sickening to watch such hypocrisy.

The worst example so far is that dreadful psych couple - the speakmans - saying 'Helen has no soul!'. That is disgusting, vile language - and coming from someone in a professional capacity makes it 1000x times worse and more nasty than anything Helen has said.

If you hate Helen so much for her 'bullying' and vile language - why do the same to her?

If there is any 'bullying' going on right now - it's the way Helen is being treated by the unthinking masses.

Angry herd mentality and hypocrisy at it's worst.

If she wants sympathy or you want sympathy for her she is going the wrong way in getting it , she put herself on a reality tv show and says clearly she went in to shake things up , if we all clapped and said here here every time she spoke it would be a bit dull .
Learnt behaviour is for children/ toddlers .

The Speakmens are twonks.

I think a lot I am part of the masses .

I don't like her , I am discussing her on a forum how is that being a hypocrite?

[mrflibble]

It's not bullying for calling people out for things they've done. She gets a kick out of upsetting people and it doesn't matter how she makes them get to that point. She wants everyone to lick her arse or she wants them to feel small. Helen had been talking over and dismissing Brian the entire time in the bunker. He vented at her. Just because she didn't yell, doesn't mean she didn't do anything wrong - she was part of the reason he got to that point. With Danny, same thing, she pushes and pushes (not to mention after repeatedly calling his friend and someone who wasn't even there a cokehead and various other names) and she refused to listen. I get angry just watching her because I hate people like that, it's no surprise he got angry. She didn't need to because she got the reaction she was after.