China’s growing middle class angry at the Dog Eating Festival

[arista]

It was featured On CNN
today.


http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/22/yulin-dog-meat-festival-gets-under-way-amid-outcry-from-within-china

[The Yulin dog meat festival is
facing an increasing backlash
from within China,
after years of international criticism.
About 10,000 dogs are likely to
slaughtered during this year’s event,
which got underway on Sunday
and marks the summer solstice
in the town in south-west China. ]

[Kizzy]

:( I'm not reading that, I'm glad it's frowned upon hopefully soon it will just be an outmoded tradition.

[Kazanne]

Just seen this on the news arista,I teared up at those dogs in cages,it's barbaric,wtf is up with people,pathetic bastards need boiling in oil.

[joeysteele]

Just totally gross.

[Kazanne]

Just totally gross.

They even had pups there Joey,kudos to the lady buying them and caring for them,I would happily do time to save one of those dogs.

[Niamh.]

I don't really get how people can be so judgemental just because it's dogs when we kill Sheep, pig, cows, chickens etc over this side of the world, it's a bit hypocritical tbf

[user104658]

None of y'all would give a **** if they were pigs or chickens. Hypocrites.

[Kazanne]

None of y'all would give a **** if they were pigs or chickens. Hypocrites.

Well I'de give a **** but tbh it's not the fact they eat them it is how they kill them they are cruel ,simple as

[Niamh.]

Well I'de give a **** but tbh it's not the fact they eat them it is how they kill them they are cruel ,simple as

What about the way Chickens are killed, their heads chopped off and they still running around for a few minutes after, also how they're kept in general, battery hens

[user104658]

What about the way Chickens are killed, their heads chopped off and they still running around for a few minutes after, also how they're kept in general, battery hens
Yeah even I have a few moral reservations when it comes to the egg industry, it's more horrific than any slaughterhouse. I mean at least they're just going to die anyway. Those chickens are effectively lifelong slaves. I only buy free-range eggs.

(though I suspect this is partly because free range eggs are better quality and taste better, also :joker:. Caged hen eggs are often pale and bland.)

[Crimson Dynamo]

Most of the dogs are strays or pets. They are shipped in on lorries in crates - the journey takes 2 days, they are not fed and watered. The dogs in general are riddled with disease.

There is little comparison to our regulated meat and poultry industry

[Kazanne]

What about the way Chickens are killed, their heads chopped off and they still running around for a few minutes after, also how they're kept in general, battery hens

That's disgusting too, cruelty happens everywhere because humans even in abbatoirs feel the need to be cruel,,but these dogs are not stunned they are thrown in to boiling water alive and also skinned alive as the idiots think the more pain the dog suffers the tenderer the meat,as I said barbaric and all in the name of a festival.They are stolen from people ,some are guard dogs ,some are strays,if someone stole my pet and did that,they'de be following them.

[user104658]

If a guard dog gets stolen, surely it was a really ineffective guard dog? Couldn't even guard itself! To the pot with you.

[cfromhx02]

It's not just the middle class.It was explained that the vast Majority of China's population have always been opposed to dog eating.

The only time it got support officially was about 800 years ago.It is only in some parts of two south eastern cities

that border South Korea that dog eating ever took hold.

There have been big protests by all the classes against what's going on.

I promise I am no supporter of the Chinese Regime.Just setting the facts straight that's all

and informing some people who may not know that the Maj have always been against it.

I bet there will be some who will try and make out that dog eating is widespread and spread hatred against them.

In South Korea it's more widespread I think,yet we are not hearing anything about what is going on there

and there's not any reports of protest there.

[Kazanne]

If a guard dog gets stolen, surely it was a really ineffective guard dog? Couldn't even guard itself! To the pot with you.

The guard dogs were ones that were no longer needed,glad you can joke about it.

[arista]

None of y'all would give a **** if they were pigs or chickens. Hypocrites.



Sure


But In the West
Dogs are our mates

China is Out Of Step on this.


It needs to be a Cow Festival
or something.


TS
China also murder millions of Sharks
just for the Fin
then they chuck it half dead back in the water to die
all for the China Special Shark Fin Soup.

[arista]

If a guard dog gets stolen, surely it was a really ineffective guard dog? Couldn't even guard itself! To the pot with you.


They have jobs


These Dogs are farmed

China Is Evil

[Kazanne]

Sure


But In the West
Dogs are our mates

China is Out Of Step on this.


It needs to be a Cow Festival
or something.


TS
China also murder millions of Sharks
just for the Fin
then they chuck it half dead back in the water to die
all for the China Special Shark Fin Soup.

I don't want ANY animal used in any festival entertainments arista,hate bull fighting too,the shark thing is disgusting too,I hate people sometimes.

[arista]

I don't want ANY animal used in any festival entertainments arista,hate bull fighting too,the shark thing is disgusting too,I hate people sometimes.



Sure
but changing to a Cow
would just be Like USA then
thats all I mean

[Niamh.]

They have jobs


These Dogs are farmed

China Is Evil

Why is it evil to farm dogs but not cows, sheep, pigs etc? They're all animals, just because we say it is? What if a Muslim country told us all we had to stop farming Pigs because they don't like people eating pig meat, would we do it just because they said so? :think:

[arista]

Why is it evil to farm dogs but not cows, sheep, pigs etc? They're all animals, just because we say it is? What if a Muslim country told us all we had to stop farming Pigs because they don't like people eating pig meat, would we do it just because they said so? :think:


But Muslim Nations do not tell us that.


Eating Dogs is Wrong
thats why its on Worldwide news.

Even if you see the logic of it all

[Niamh.]

But Muslim Nations do not tell us that.


Eating Dogs is Wrong
thats why its on Worldwide news.

Even if you see the logic of it all

Why is eating dogs more wrong than eating other animals though? Don't get me wrong, i have a dog and I love her because she's my pet but in general why is farming one animal evil but another is just fine?

[Kizzy]

Dogs are different they're domesticated animals, bred for service and companionship. If we had done that to cows, pigs or sheep we'd feel different but we haven't :shrug:

[Niamh.]

Dogs are different they're domesticated animals, bred for service and companionship. If we had done that to cows, pigs or sheep we'd feel different but we haven't :shrug:

So we're basically saying that we decided that it's evil cos we like Dogs more. Ok then

[Liam-]

Dogs are different they're domesticated animals, bred for service and companionship. If we had done that to cows, pigs or sheep we'd feel different but we haven't :shrug:

Pigs can be pets too, but they're still killed and cut up for people to eat

[Kizzy]

So we're basically saying that we decided that it's evil cos we like Dogs more. Ok then

I didn't say it was evil... I said it was an outmoded tradition as we have domesticated dogs and cats as pets/workers in the west as they are now doing in China.

[Niamh.]

I didn't say it was evil... I said it was an outmoded tradition as we have domesticated dogs and cats as pets/workers in the west as they are now doing in China.

Shouldn't that be for the Chinese to decide though?

[Kizzy]

Shouldn't that be for the Chinese to decide though?

They are that's the topic of the thread isn't it? that many oppose it due to changing attitudes towards dogs as companions as opposed to food :/

[Kazanne]

Why don't people understand,it's the way they are KILLED that is worse for me absolutely needless to inflict such pain,IF you need to eat them at least just ****ing shoot them in the head,Have any of you seen the footage of how they are treated and killed,utterly barbaric

[Kazanne]

In a nutshell some people are down right scum and enjoy inflicting pain.

[Niamh.]

They are that's the topic of the thread isn't it? that many oppose it due to changing attitudes towards dogs as companions as opposed to food :/

I was referring to Westerners getting involved in it all and the logic behind thinking it's fine to kill other animals but dogs are special, particularly Aristas post that claimed killing dogs was evil but it's not evil to kill other animals

[Kizzy]

I was referring to Westerners getting involved in it all and the logic behind thinking it's fine to kill other animals but dogs are special, particularly Aristas post that claimed killing dogs was evil but it's not evil to kill other animals

Take that up with him then.

[Niamh.]

Take that up with him then.

Well I was actually taking it up with him when you joined in on the discussion i was having with him...no you didn't quote me but it seemed like you were responding to my post on the other page, if you weren't then it's my mistake :)

[arista]

I was referring to Westerners getting involved in it all and the logic behind thinking it's fine to kill other animals but dogs are special, particularly Aristas post that claimed killing dogs was evil but it's not evil to kill other animals


Yes as in the West some dogs
save lives.
So they are Special and Loyal.


So I will say China Is Evil
to Eat Dogs
and murder millions of sharks

[Kizzy]

Well I was actually taking it up with him when you joined in on the discussion i was having with him...no you didn't quote me but it seemed like you were responding to my post on the other page, if you weren't then it's my mistake :)

I forgive you :)

[Niamh.]

I forgive you :)

Great, my life is now complete :')

[Kazanne]

Yes as in the West some dogs
save lives.
So they are Special and Loyal.


So I will say China Is Evil
to Eat Dogs
and murder millions of sharks

Yes and they help humans in so many ways.

[Niamh.]

Yes as in the West some dogs
save lives.
So they are Special and Loyal.


So I will say China Is Evil
to Eat Dogs
and murder millions of sharks

What about horses, is it ok to eat them? :think:

[arista]

What about horses, is it ok to eat them? :think:


Yes they do that in France


Its a simple thread
Showing how Evil China is
eating Dogs,
which we Do Not Do.

[Niamh.]

Yes they do that in France


Its a simple thread
Showing how Evil China is
eating Dogs,
which we Do Not Do.

But we don't eat horse either and they're domesticated so why aren't people out raged by that? It just seems really hypocritical to say it's ok to eat one type of animal but say it's evil to eat another imo

[Kazanne]

What about horses, is it ok to eat them? :think:

I don't think that's ok either Niamh,it's probably easier for me as I'm a veggie,I have no problem with people eating meat if that is what they want to do,I do object to the way animals are killed,they are sentient beings ,they feel pain.

[Niamh.]

I don't think that's ok either Niamh,it's probably easier for me as I'm a veggie,I have no problem with people eating meat if that is what they want to do,I do object to the way animals are killed,they are sentient beings ,they feel pain.

I see where you're coming from Kazanne and I think you have more weight behind your views as you are a vegetarian but my point with Arista here is that firstly I don't think he's a vegetarian and secondly he doesn't seem to be arguing because of how they're killed but that they just shouldn't be because they're dogs

[Kazanne]

I see where you're coming from Kazanne and I think you have more weight behind your views as you are a vegetarian but my point with Arista here is that firstly I don't think he's a vegetarian and secondly he doesn't seem to be arguing because of how they're killed but that they just shouldn't be because they're dogs

I see what you mean,I do think its so wrong to kill them for sport and fun, arista sort this out:hehe:

[arista]

But we don't eat horse either and they're domesticated so why aren't people out raged by that? It just seems really hypocritical to say it's ok to eat one type of animal but say it's evil to eat another imo


We do
but its called beef or something else


It got in the News
when New Labour were in Power

[JoshBB]

Pigs can be pets too, but they're still killed and cut up for people to eat

Yes, if you are outraged by this then you should be equally outraged by slaughter of all animals. We have domesticated dogs and have attachments to them as a society as a result of that, but that doesn't make it any more immoral than killing another kind of animal.

[JoshBB]

We do
but its called beef or something else


It got in the News
when New Labour were in Power

I remember it being around 2012-2013, when the tories were in coalition. :smug:

[arista]

I remember it being around 2012-2013, when the tories were in coalition. :smug:


thats the 2nd time

[JoshBB]

thats the 2nd time

You can't have a go at New Labour for it happening while they're in power and not the tories for the same thing :laugh:

I don't know why you think they're responsible either, they're not.. just greedy corporations trying to get as much profit as possible and so they do that by cutting corners.

[arista]

You can't have a go at New Labour for it happening while they're in power and not the tories for the same thing :laugh:

I don't know why you think they're responsible either, they're not.. just greedy corporations trying to get as much profit as possible and so they do that by cutting corners.


I can Have a Go at New Labour

You can have a Go at The Conservative -LibDems,

[JoshBB]

I can Have a Go at New Labour

You can have a Go at The Conservative -LibDems,

But it doesn't make any sense? They weren't the ones who cut corners, it was the companies producing the meat. If you're going to moan at one at least be consistent, talk about double standards..

[arista]

I see where you're coming from Kazanne and I think you have more weight behind your views as you are a vegetarian but my point with Arista here is that firstly I don't think he's a vegetarian and secondly he doesn't seem to be arguing because of how they're killed but that they just shouldn't be because they're dogs


I eat Veg with Every Meal
And Also Fresh Salad
with Every Other Meal.


If I went back in a time machine
before the nations started
we eat Meat & Veg back then as well.

[Niamh.]

I eat Veg with Every Meal
And Also Fresh Salad
with Every Other Meal.


If I went back in a time machine
before the nations started
we eat Meat & Veg back then as well.

Most people eat Veg with their meals........"with" being the operative word here, presumably you eat your veg "with" meat?

[arista]

Most people eat Veg with their meals........"with" being the operative word here, presumably you eat your veg "with" meat?

Yes I Do.

[Ammi]

Yes they do that in France


Its a simple thread
Showing how Evil China is
eating Dogs,
which we Do Not Do.

..in France and in many countries, lots of things are eaten that maybe we wouldn't want to but I think what Niamh means is that doesn't make it 'evil' to eat them...

[Niamh.]

Yes I Do.

So you're not a vegetarian. Neither am I, do I like dogs more than cows and pigs? Yes I do, I have a pet dog but I think it would be hypocritical to say that it's ok for me to eat those animals but it's evil for people to eat dogs just because I like dogs more, they're all animals with feelings so if it's wrong to farm one type of animal then it should be wrong to farm them all

[JoshBB]

So you're not a vegetarian. Neither am I, do I like dogs more than cows and pigs? Yes I do, I have a pet dog but I think it would be hypocritical to say that it's ok for me to eat those animals but it's evil for people to eat dogs just because I like dogs more, they're all animals with feelings so if it's wrong to farm one type of animal then it should be wrong to farm them all

This :worship:

[arista]

So you're not a vegetarian. Neither am I, do I like dogs more than cows and pigs? Yes I do, I have a pet dog but I think it would be hypocritical to say that it's ok for me to eat those animals but it's evil for people to eat dogs just because I like dogs more, they're all animals with feelings so if it's wrong to farm one type of animal then it should be wrong to farm them all


Yes thats from the UK and USA

Its Evil to eat Dogs


I know you have a dog
you has told us that already

[Niamh.]

Yes thats from the UK and USA

Its Evil to eat Dogs


I know you have a dog
you has told us that already

You also told us it was evil to eat dogs already, do i get deducted points for mentioning the same point twice? :hehe:

[Kazanne]

I eat Veg with Every Meal
And Also Fresh Salad
with Every Other Meal.


If I went back in a time machine
before the nations started
we eat Meat & Veg back then as well.

They were probably killed more humanely back in those times.

[arista]

They were probably killed more humanely back in those times.


For Sure


No Walmart , back then

[arista]

You also told us it was evil to eat dogs already, do i get deducted points for mentioning the same point twice? :hehe:


Yes Top Of The Class
Fine Lady

[Niamh.]

Yes Top Of The Class
Fine Lady

:laugh:

[Gusto Brunt]

Come on boy! :D I love dogs, me. ;)

Such cruelty. :(

https://33.media.tumblr.com/62f5f815100baae08b44e6513b95001b/tumblr_mj7e9xs6b61qgr5nfo1_500.gif

[Kazanne]

:laugh:

:joker:What's he like? who could argue with arista:laugh:

[Niamh.]

:joker:What's he like? who could argue with arista:laugh:

I give up anyway :fan:

[Kazanne]

Come on boy! :D I love dogs, me. ;)

Such cruelty. :(

https://33.media.tumblr.com/62f5f815100baae08b44e6513b95001b/tumblr_mj7e9xs6b61qgr5nfo1_500.gif

aw,love him/her:lovedup:Who could hurt that

[user104658]

So we're basically saying that we decided that it's evil cos we like Dogs more. Ok then
People see dog pack psychology and confuse it with love (your dog does not love you). People see dogs panting and think they're smiling because of the shape their face makes (dogs do not smile).

People feel differently about dogs because PEOPLE have spent hundreds of years working with dogs and so, for companionship, naming them and humanising them. No other reason and nothing intrinsically "special" about dogs over other mammals.

See... Vegans I can understand. I'd never be one but I get it - they just disagree with killing for food. The morals behind it, whilst they are not mine, are logical. But anyone cries that eating a dog is "Evil" whilst tucking into a chicken & bacon wrap, I'm afraid, can't be described as anything but a hypocrite.

[arista]

People see dog pack psychology and confuse it with love (your dog does not love you). People see dogs panting and think they're smiling because of the shape their face makes (dogs do not smile).

People feel differently about dogs because PEOPLE have spent hundreds of years working with dogs and so, for companionship, naming them and humanising them. No other reason and nothing intrinsically "special" about dogs over other mammals.

See... Vegans I can understand. I'd never be one but I get it - they just disagree with killing for food. The morals behind it, whilst they are not mine, are logical. But anyone cries that eating a dog is "Evil" whilst tucking into a chicken & bacon wrap, I'm afraid, can't be described as anything but a hypocrite.


Yes but they are Loyal
as we feed them.
They also protect you.


Eating Dogs Is Evil.


Eating Roast Beef Dinner is Fine.


TS
In WW3
I will send you to the Front Line
with Military Robot back up.

[user104658]

Yes but they are Loyal
as we feed them.
They also protect you.


Eating Dogs Is Evil.


Eating Roast Beef Dinner is Fine.


TS
In WW3
I will send you to the Front Line
with Military Robot back up.
They're loyal until you stop feeding them, then a week later, they eat you. Dogs are evil. In WW3 after all of the farms are destroyed I'm going to set up a little stall selling dog burgers made of strays, and everyone will say "mmmm, Mmm oh TS, you make the best ever dog burgers, what is your secret??" and I will say "I use puppies because they are so soft and tender".

[arista]

They're loyal until you stop feeding them, then a week later, they eat you. Dogs are evil. In WW3 after all of the farms are destroyed I'm going to set up a little stall selling dog burgers made of strays, and everyone will say "mmmm, Mmm oh TS, you make the best ever dog burgers, what is your secret??" and I will say "I use puppies because they are so soft and tender".


You will be under New Laws in WW3
and put on the Front Line
Anyone not following orders
is then a Enemy to be tracked down.

[user104658]

You will be under New Laws in WW3
and put on the Front Line
Anyone not following orders
is then a Enemy to be tracked down.
Nope, all of the top military brass love TS's secret dog burger recipe so they let me stay home and cook delicious pets.

[Glenn.]

The dogs are needlessly beaten to death. It's disgusting.

[user104658]

Also for weddings, birthdays and christenings try my delicious rotating spit roasted dog served with salad in a pita bread. I call it "dogner kebab". Spectacular,

[Kazanne]

The dogs are needlessly beaten to death. It's disgusting.

I've seen it , it's appalling:bawling:

[arista]

Nope, all of the top military brass love TS's secret dog burger recipe so they let me stay home and cook delicious pets.


Wrong we have Prepacked Food
to last 20 years.


So in WW3
you will obey
and go to the Frontline
with Military Robot as back up.

[user104658]

Wrong we have Prepacked Food
to last 20 years.


So in WW3
you will obey
and go to the Frontline
with Military Robot as back up.
The prepacked food is dry and tasteless, that's why the top military brass are so keen on the puppy buffet. It keeps morale up.

[arista]

The prepacked food is dry and tasteless, that's why the top military brass are so keen on the puppy buffet. It keeps morale up.


No it is not

It even has fruit pudding


You are not able to speak
to Top Military
as you are rushed to Front Line
within minutes of WW3 Starting up.

[AnnieK]

And where will you be arista?

[Amy Jade]

If anyones seen these videos horrific things happen to the dogs.

I saw one a few months ago on a shock site and the dogs were beaten with clubs while still alive to 'tenderize' their meat because these people believe it makes the meat taste different, the dogs then have their pelts/fur ripped off and while they are still alive they're cooked alive - that is evil I don't care what anyone says to treat an animal so badly is purely evil.

Another reason I disagree with this horrible festival is because there has been video evidence some of the dogs are someones pets, there were videos of dogs with collars on. I don't really care if it's frowned upon, if somebody stole my dog and hurt her I would want to kill them.

[Kazanne]

If anyones seen these videos horrific things happen to the dogs.

I saw one a few months ago on a shock site and the dogs were beaten with clubs while still alive to 'tenderize' their meat because these people believe it makes the meat taste different, the dogs then have their pelts/fur ripped off and while they are still alive they're cooked alive - that is evil I don't care what anyone says to treat an animal so badly is purely evil.

Another reason I disagree with this horrible festival is because there has been video evidence some of the dogs are someones pets, there were videos up of dogs with collars on. I don't really care if it's frowed upon, if somebody stole my dog and hurt her I would want to kill them.

Well said Amy,:clap1:

[arista]

And where will you be arista?

In WW3
Making Sure all Frontline Staff
are on the Lorry.


I am part of a Cog in the Machine

[user104658]

And where will you be arista?
He doesn't believe it yet, but he'll be busy tucking into the tasty terrier tortellini that I'll have given to him as a bribe so that he doesn't put me on the truck.

Bellissimo!

[arista]

He doesn't believe it yet, but he'll be busy tucking into the tasty terrier tortellini that I'll have given to him as a bribe so that he doesn't put me on the truck.

Bellissimo!


Wrong Again
we are Armed
all WW3 appointed Troops go onto the trucks

No Other way is possible

[bots]

There are cows massaged every day of their lives to spread the fat evenly through the meat. Is that humane?

China doesn't treat human life as sacred, it therefore follows that animals aren't going to be treated well either.

There are a minority of countries that think behaviour to animals is barbaric. Who is therefore correct?

I hate all forms of animal cruelty for the record, i just think at the present time, we are a long way off from having a compassionate world. I'm not convinced it will ever be a reality.

[user104658]

Wrong Again
we are Armed
all WW3 appointed Troops go onto the trucks

No Other way is possible
My German Shepherd's Pie begs to differ. You'll see.

[arista]

My German Shepherd's Pie begs to differ. You'll see.


Wrong
In WW3
not time for jokers.

[user104658]

Wrong
In WW3
not time for jokers.
But jokes are a we'll have left, arista!! Without jokes we will have no hope, and with no hope we will never be able to fight hard enough to win.

Also to fight hard,

We must have bellies full of succulent labrador.

[Livia]

If anyones seen these videos horrific things happen to the dogs.

I saw one a few months ago on a shock site and the dogs were beaten with clubs while still alive to 'tenderize' their meat because these people believe it makes the meat taste different, the dogs then have their pelts/fur ripped off and while they are still alive they're cooked alive - that is evil I don't care what anyone says to treat an animal so badly is purely evil.

Another reason I disagree with this horrible festival is because there has been video evidence some of the dogs are someones pets, there were videos of dogs with collars on. I don't really care if it's frowned upon, if somebody stole my dog and hurt her I would want to kill them.

I've seen some of the videos too AJ, and they are sickening, I totally agree. In fact I agree with everything you've said here. I've seen video footage of dogs being skinned alive then thrown in a sickening pile to die in agony, and that's not the half of it. Equating eating dogs to eating farm-reared animals is lunacy. I'm surprised people see so much humour in this subject.

[user104658]

I've seen some of the videos too AJ, and they are sickening, I totally agree. In fact I agree with everything you've said here. I've seen video footage of dogs being skinned alive then thrown in a sickening pile to die in agony, and that's not the half of it. Equating eating dogs to eating farm-reared animals is lunacy. I'm surprised people see so much humour in this subject.

Tbh I see humour in pretty much every subject.

[Kazanne]

I've seen some of the videos too AJ, and they are sickening, I totally agree. In fact I agree with everything you've said here. I've seen video footage of dogs being skinned alive then thrown in a sickening pile to die in agony, and that's not the half of it. Equating eating dogs to eating farm-reared animals is lunacy. I'm surprised people see so much humour in this subject.

It's barbaric,there is no need for such cruelty,I'de like to skin one of the barbarians alive let them see how that would feel,I have no qualms about what happens to people who can do such things.

[user104658]

It's barbaric,there is no need for such cruelty,I'de like to skin one of the barbarians alive let them see how that would feel,I have no qualms about what happens to people who can do such things.
So would you skin and eat a dog that was vicious and had mauled a child?

[Kazanne]

So would you skin and eat a dog that was vicious and had mauled a child?

No,because a dog doesn't realise a child feels pain,us as humans are supposed to know the difference but do we care? no some of us dont

[user104658]

No,because a dog doesn't realise a child feels pain,us as humans are supposed to know the difference but do we care? no some of us dont
Sounds like you're making excuses for the dog to me...

Double standards.

[T*]

i'm not even going to look at some of the replies in here because it'll just frustrate me and make me angry and upset. This is a shameful thing to be doing in 2015 and the fact that they steal the dogs makes it even worse.

[letmein]

Are you upset over the way that they're slaughtered, or are you simply upset that they eat dogs? If you eat meat, you're a hypocrite. There's no difference when it comes to eating an album, whether it be pig, cow, or in this case, dog.

[Kazanne]

Sounds like you're making excuses for the dog to me...

Double standards.

How is it an excuse.we are SUPPOSED to be the top of the food chain,dogs don't know that biting someone is bad do they? we are supposed to know better.

[letmein]

How is it an excuse.we are SUPPOSED to be the top of the food chain,dogs don't know that biting someone is bad do they? we are supposed to know better.

Huh?

[user104658]

How is it an excuse.we are SUPPOSED to be the top of the food chain,dogs don't know that biting someone is bad do they? we are supposed to know better.
Yes. Top of the food chain. That's why everything looks so delicious :(.

[Dollface]

I can't read the articles about this because it makes me too upset, but I thought i'd read the comments on here instead, thinking everyone would be condemning such a vile festival.
But instead I see people making jokes and excuses. It's sickening, truly sickening. Toy Soldier you should be ashamed of yourself, you're honestly vile and I hope you never own a dog or any other pet because you're clearly incapable of loving an animal.
I wont be coming back in this thread because I think it's disgusting.

[T*]

I can't read the articles about this because it makes me too upset, but I thought i'd read the comments on here instead, thinking everyone would be condemning such a vile festival.
But instead I see people making jokes and excuses. It's sickening, truly sickening. Toy Soldier you should be ashamed of yourself, you're honestly vile and I hope you never own a dog or any other pet because you're clearly incapable of loving an animal.
I wont be coming back in this thread because I think it's disgusting.

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[user104658]

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[Ammi]

..I hadn't read or watched the vid because I thought that it would be too disturbing but this is not about whether dog meat is typically eaten in a China but about the festival and how the dogs are killed and that their killing and eating is 'celebrated'...?...I don't know how it got to WW3 because this is not eating to survive, it's about celebrating the slaughter of animals which I know is done in many customs/traditions but this festival has only been something since 1995 so it says in the article..so this is not a deep tradition or anything that they do this..and yeah, in China dogs are eaten and here we eat cows and we eat sheep and we eat pigs etc but it's not celebrated with a mass public slaughter and even in some cases, family pets 'taken'....

..I think that Yang Xiaoyun is amazing..:lovedup:...especially as well because she is an older person so could be more 'ruled' by things like traditions/customs etc but maybe it is actually because she's older that she has seen the 'change' in China through the years of dogs more and more becoming family pets and hoping for a whole attitude change toward them...sadly I don't think that's something that will happen quickly though even probably with the festival which is a very 'modern' thing...whatever the animal had been, I still think it would be wrong for a country to accept this 'slaughter celebration'...but because I'm sure that no one taking part feels that it's wrong, Yang is right...it's about appealing to the government to ban these things and also using social and any media to help do that...and of course, herself striving to influence.. let's hear it for the Yang..:love:..