Calais Port and Channel Tunnel : Illegal Migrant Crisis

[arista]

1st Title : UK :Farmer Rounds Up Illegal Migrants In His Fields

2nd Title (23/6/15) :Lock your doors! Chaos in Calais as port and Channel Tunnel

3rd title was
2,000 Illegal Migrants got over the fences at Calais Port and Channel Tunnel



Shown on SkyNewsHD and Ch5HD News

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http://news.sky.com/story/1506341/farmer-rounds-up-illegal-migrants-in-his-fields
Video Report on this link


[His farm in Toddington, Bedfordshire,
is just a few hundred metres from
a motorway service station where
immigrants who have crossed from
the French port of Calais are often
dropped off by truckers.]


Well Done Fella

[arista]

This was Debated on LWHD today

Saying the Mayor of Calais says we must co-fund
there new fitted Camp being built
as she said our benefit easy system
and black market Illegal work is why they
all want to enter England


JSP said many of them
are qualified
But Ruth
Shut her up saying we can not Cherry Pick


Life In The Fast Lane

[arista]

Due to a French Strike on the Ferry
now the Channel Tunnel has had to close
as the Ferry Strikers have invaded there area.

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This is the Never Ending Illegals trying to reach England

http://news.sky.com/story/1506994/channel-tunnel-shut-due-to-protesters-on-tracks


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Scores of migrants attempt to board a lorry in Calais
but thats stupid now as Lorrys are stuck due to the Massive Strike.

My Ferry
Company was owned by the Channel Tunnel but they were
told no , as its to much monopoly.
So the Workers on My Ferry went on Strike
and burned tires on the Railway tracks - that was not on strike.
Fecking French Unions

[Smithy]

Literally thought you meant Caitlin was in calais

[Crimson Dynamo]

I would hate to be a truck driver with all that lot making your life a misery every day. They should be rounded up and sent back to whence they came.

ie France

[smudgie]

Every one of them needs sending back, we need more fences putting up as well, at our expense of course.
Asylum seekers my arse..they are already in a safe country, and probably passed through a few more on the way.
They see England as the promised land..time to set them straight.

[arista]

I would hate to be a truck driver with all that lot making your life a misery every day. They should be rounded up and sent back to whence they came.

ie France


Yes I would have to have a Metal Bar

[arista]

Literally thought you meant Caitlin was in calais


Crazy Name she has

[Crimson Dynamo]

Thankfully UKIP brought this to the nations attention or we would still be walking around with our fingers in our ears singling "lalalalalalalala"

[arista]

Thankfully UKIP brought this to the nations attention or we would still be walking around with our fingers in our ears singling "lalalalalalalala"


Sure yesterday
A School Bus in London
came back and 2 illegals were hidden
they just went to a park bench
to sit. (Dumb)
Police got them
and handed them to Border Patrol.


Meanwhile in France
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/06/23/09/29B67DAB00000578-3135685-image-a-4_1435046539816.jpg
Get them all out copper

[empire]

I think they need to bring out the army,

[Marsh.]

A jumper with London on it.

Is that so the truck knows where she wants to be delivered?

[JoshBB]

I think they need to bring out the army,

Why?

All I can think of is these poor people desperate to get to England - why? Also why can't all the countries with big enough economies all get together and spread out the migrants between us who are fleeing war etc.

[Marsh.]

Why?

All I can think of is these poor people desperate to get to England - why?

Benefits? Freebies? Must be a reason that so many are choosing us over other places in Europe.

[empire]

britain is in demand for australian style immigration, because they have very low refugee numbers, people in this country are already struggling with high costs, adding an influx of people, will only be a burden to the country,

[the truth]

I would hate to be a truck driver with all that lot making your life a misery every day. They should be rounded up and sent back to whence they came.

ie France

but new labour and idiots like harriet Harman have been saying its racist to sya that for years and years and no one has challenged them? hence we have ended up in this nightmare situation

[the truth]

Why?

All I can think of is these poor people desperate to get to England - why? Also why can't all the countries with big enough economies all get together and spread out the migrants between us who are fleeing war etc.

rent them a room and feed them then

[empire]

harriet harman wants to give adults the right to have sex with children, the vile man hater should have a noose to her neck,

[arista]

Benefits? Freebies? Must be a reason that so many are choosing us over other places in Europe.


Sure thats True
and some are working in
black market set ups,
no tax - just cash in hand.

[Ammi]

..so how long does it take for the authorities to arrive after he calls them, that he feels he has to 'round up' what he describes as calm and subdued people like a heard of dehumanised cattle...

[letmein]

harriet harman wants to give adults the right to have sex with children, the vile man hater should have a noose to her neck,

What's this about?

[arista]

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[GypsyGoth]

Literally thought you meant Caitlin was in calais

:laugh2: me too.

[TheGreatDavidCameron]

As I said in my speach at PMQ's. We really need to work together with the French, agree what we needs to be done and do it. What needs to be done? We'll work on that guys.

[empire]

why the hell should we let these people sponge of the state, let them live, in a life of luxury, when we have to work are socks off, its time that the pm grow a pair, and say no thank you, the more you give the more they come,

[Northern Monkey]

The French really need to step up security on their side.They are fecking useless.They need to tighten up their borders big time and stop these immigrants even getting as far as the Channel Tunnel.They also need armed police on their side of the tunnel and checks on lorries before they go through.We need better security on our side.They should'nt have even got on British soil.

[empire]

in truth, why is it that right wingism is rising fast these days, because the left wing parties sold out there voters, and got into bed with people who are anti western, anti patriotic, and very intolerant of are way of life, the left wing marxist goal is to dismantle are way of life and identity, the people who take a boat to italy, are there golden ticket to make sure this happens, they don't care if they spend every last penny, even if it make's you homeless, and your own children go hungry,

[Glenn.]

Literally thought you meant Caitlin was in calais

same

[arista]

Eurotunnel Terminal Stormed By 2,000 Migrants

Reported on every news today

http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2015/7/28/408541/default/v1/migrants-1-736x414.jpg

The French do not even repair Cut Fences
they should let our Army take over.

2,000 migrants tried to storm through Eurotunnel's French terminal last night, according to the company.

[The migrants tried to break through
the terminal's security fence, causing some
services to be cancelled or delayed.]

http://news.sky.com/story/1526704/eurotunnel-terminal-stormed-by-2000-migrants

[Livia]

Bulldoze their camps. They all travelled across countless safe countries to get to Calais, and we all know why.

[empire]

its time we blow up the the channel tunnel, you don't know what these people are capable of, if they are on the streets, a somali refugee gang raped an 11 year old in a public toilet, in sweden, now there is only two ways in that you deport them, or put them in centres on islands, that know one lives on, its too big of a risk, too let them on the streets,

[Toy Soldier]

Bulldoze their camps. They all travelled across countless safe countries to get to Calais, and we all know why.
Yup. To audition for X Factor. Damn you, Simon! Filling our country with fame hungry immigrant pigs!

[Livia]

Yup. To audition for X Factor. Damn you, Simon! Filling our country with fame hungry immigrant pigs!

It's a no from me.

[GypsyGoth]

I don't understand why they're doing it. Is it just the grass is always greener mentality? Do they intend to work in the black economy? Or are they hoping to get, citizenship and a job?

[the truth]

I 100% agree with empire, shut the tunnel down NOW

[smudgie]

:idc: rubber bullets spring to mind, stop the attempted invasion.
Ok, water cannons then maybe.

[Livia]

:idc: rubber bullets spring to mind, stop the attempted invasion.
Ok, water cannons then maybe.

Something's needed to stop this, that's for sure, and we can't rely on the French, they want them out of Calais and if that means they end up here, the French don't have a problem with that.

[Kizzy]

I think it's the UK that need to aid France here 1500 attempted to enter the chunnel on tues, finally maybe dave will see he needs to do more.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jul/29/calais-one-dead-1500-migrants-storm-eurotunnel-terminal

[Samuel.]

Let them in :)

[lostalex]

If i was born in a third world country, i know i would try to escape to a better country when i was old enough too, so i have a lot of sympathy for these immigrants/refugees.

As a gay man it terrifies me thinking about the possibility that i could have been born in a third world country. i know i would have tried to escape, or if that was impossible, maybe just killed myself.

I think considering how women are treated in most third world countries the same would apply for women. countries where it's not illegal to beat your wife, it;s not illegal to rape your wife. countries where girls as young as 12 are married to adult men.

and i even have sympathy for normal straight men, the ones that don't go along with the status quo, if they are intellectual and stand up against these oppressive regimes they are equally in danger.

It's a very ****ed up situation.

[MTVN]

I don't understand why they're doing it. Is it just the grass is always greener mentality? Do they intend to work in the black economy? Or are they hoping to get, citizenship and a job?

Combination of things I think. For one it's not as though no other countries in Europe are dealing with an influx of migrants - the UK generally takes less than our fair share compared to places like Sweden and Germany. Italy and Greece are breaking under the strain of so many migrants travelling across by sea. They also might have the wrong impression of Britain where they think it's much easier to get a job and some money or that its easier to blend into the system and avoid deportation. They might just have more family here or there's the appeal of longer established communities from their country of origin.

Whatever the reasons it's exactly the sort of problem the EU should exist for and there does need to be a European solution which is fair both for all the member states and for the migrants themselves

[arista]

Let them in :)


We will put them in your Garden

[lostalex]

they can't even solve the problem of the gypsies who have been in the eurozone for hundreds of years, how do you expect the EU to solve millions of new migrants moving all around the continent?

The EU is worthless when it comes to the big problems. the Eu only benefits businesses and politicians. the Eu has never solved any large scale social problem.

[GypsyGoth]

Thank you for the answer Matt :love:

I find it a really bizarre situation. It's like they think all the troubles in their lives will be solved if they can get through the tunnel.

[arista]

Ch5HD News was the only one
in the Night filming them.

When another Died
some came back.


This wire fencing by the Tunnel is not good enough.


If we can not use our Army
then the French should.

[Cherie]

How are they surviving in Calais for days on end

[arista]

How are they surviving in Calais for days on end

A Local French Charity Feeds them.


But all they want is England.

As France treats Migrants Very Badly.

6:30PM tonight Ch5HD News Tonight has a Special on this

[Cherie]

A Local French Charity Feeds them.


But all they want is England.

As France treats Migrants Very Badly.

6:30PM tonight Ch5HD News Tonight has a Special on this

Aw right thanks

[Anaesthesia]

I'm super upset that Greece is "benefitting" from the migrant influx. FFS, haven't they got enough to worry about?

[waterhog]

A Local French Charity Feeds them.


But all they want is England.

As France treats Migrants Very Badly.

6:30PM tonight Ch5HD News Tonight has a Special on this



why they are getting food they can keep trying to get here. i do understand how desperate these people are but i think we have to draw a line in the sand and stick to it.

alright daveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/07/31/16/article-3181242-2AFF609B00000578-415_964x436.jpg
Poxy Striking Ex ferry Workers Burning Tyres , yet again.

You would think the French could clean it up fast
since its been done so many Fecking Times
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[Your summer holidays have gone
up in smoke: British families start
cancelling holidays to France as crisis
in Calais grows after striking ferry workers
block roads with burning tyres ]

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3181242/Striking-ferry-workers-burn-tyres-Calais-roads-causing-chaos-Brit-holidaymakers.html#ixzz3hUl7n2u4

[arista]

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The D.M is Not Happy

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[Nedusa]

I'm so happy to read these headlines, talk about what goes around comes around. Been saying this has been a growing problem for years , UKIP have tried to create their manifesto around the EU and immigration but nobody listens.

They're listening now.

[kirklancaster]

I'm so happy to read these headlines, talk about what goes around comes around. Been saying this has been a growing problem for years , UKIP have tried to create their manifesto around the EU and immigration but nobody listens.

They're listening now.

:clap1::clap1::clap1: You and me both Nedusa. (Great to see you posting again).

This is NOT an 'Illegal Immigrant crisis' - it is a 'UK Survival Crisis'.

These are NOT genuine 'Refugees' - they are opportunists.

As Livia points out, these so-called desperate people pass numerous 'safe' countries to try to get into the UK. 99% of them are able-bodied males in the 18 to 35 age bracket. Most of them have been able to pay £1,000's of pounds to 'Traffickers' along with other costs, wear expensive trainers and leather coats, and sport mobile phones on which - according to various boasts - they regularly call their parents/grandparents "back home".

What kind of ******* 'intolerable, dangerous, plight are these fit young men fleeing from in their home countries that their elderly parents/grandparents - who are many times more weak and vulnerable - are still living there -- apparently with the 'luxury' and freedom to still be able to use telephones?

Look at the calibre of these 'poor' unfortunates and their contemptuous disregard for us and our laws;

Their sole aim is to enter the UK by any means despite the fact that they KNOW it is ILLEGAL.

They have RIOTED and OPENLY attacked police and lorry drivers.

They have committed ARSON.

They have LOOTED and STOLEN.

And THESE are the bastards that some on this forum want to WELCOME into the UK with OPEN ARMS? :shrug:

Like you, I have posted many long and comprehensive posts about this huge threat to the Uk so I have no heart left to repeat myself, but I will say this;

These 'poor unfortunates' are driven by GREED not NEED and ASPIRATION not DESPERATION.

'Poor unfortunate refugees' my https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR0gjki2creCWO89EkBnq9w5Sl5dRXM3 bMHiJzev_tYAG_nb6QMBQ

[Crimson Dynamo]

Lorry drivers' conversations now apocalyptically racist

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/images/stories/trucks-kent-425x265.jpg

STRANDED lorry drivers in Kent have broken records for the level of violent racism in their conversations.

The drivers’ solutions to the migrant crisis and French strikes have already outstripped the worst genocidal fantasies of a raving neo-Nazi and look set to get even worse.

Driver Roy Hobbs said: “For starters, let’s drop the neutron bomb.

“That leaves the road network intact and then we get lorries jousting each other at 75mph to scrape off any migrants still clinging to the sides.

“After that we round up all the French farmers and burn them on a pyre. Then we go home with our heads held high, because we are the knights of the road.”

Race relations expert Dr Mary Fisher said: “We have hit peak racism, with each square yard of Kent equivalent to the outpourings of 160 drunk Australian women on public transport.

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/international/lorry-drivers-conversations-now-apocalyptically-racist-20150731100674

[billy123]

Lorry drivers' conversations now apocalyptically racist

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STRANDED lorry drivers in Kent have broken records for the level of violent racism in their conversations.

The drivers’ solutions to the migrant crisis and French strikes have already outstripped the worst genocidal fantasies of a raving neo-Nazi and look set to get even worse.

Driver Roy Hobbs said: “For starters, let’s drop the neutron bomb.

“That leaves the road network intact and then we get lorries jousting each other at 75mph to scrape off any migrants still clinging to the sides.

“After that we round up all the French farmers and burn them on a pyre. Then we go home with our heads held high, because we are the knights of the road.”

Race relations expert Dr Mary Fisher said: “We have hit peak racism, with each square yard of Kent equivalent to the outpourings of 160 drunk Australian women on public transport.

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/international/lorry-drivers-conversations-now-apocalyptically-racist-20150731100674Thats a spoof website you madhead :joker: its the UK version of the onion. Did you also believe the story next to it Cheaper to commute from Moon than live in London
(http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/cheaper-to-commute-from-moon-than-live-in-london-20150731100672)

[Samuel.]

The public outrage to this is disgusting. One of them can take my place in this country soon enough.

[Josy]

The public outrage to this is disgusting. One of them can take my place in this country soon enough.

Is it really?

You know they just a minute ago mentioned on the news that the ones that manage to get in are being put up in hotels paid for with taxpayer money, I think if people want to be outraged then most of them are perfectly entitled to do so.

[joeysteele]

Sadly I would have hoped the UK would retain its fair balancing of at least wanting to find out first who of these are genuinely trying to escape persecution and total poverty in their own homelands,before branding them all scroungers and wastes of time and space.

What has happened to the compassion, understanding and basic fairness the UK used to say it prided itself on.

They are being put up in Hotels because we have not as Country made sure we have the right facilities for them to go to, how many years has this been a problem.
If this was millions of people.rather than few thousand at most,then fair enough, but how I wish the media particularly would get this in the right perspective and look compassionately more at a justice angle rather than brand other living human beings as near parasites.

How nice it would be too, if politicians leading the UK, and the PM particularly, did not help fuel the prejudice in the media against these people too.
I really am more and more every day coming to despair at the attitudes of the people in the UK now, I already with a passion hate its rotten biased media.

I am less and less feeling that I am or even want to be, a UK citizen in a hard hearted nation that shows little respect for the lives of people without even knowing their true circumstances or why they may be fleeing elsewhere in the first place.
Awful situation but govts have known this was always possible,the UK one for sure has, it has been warned plenty from UKIP,who will likely have a field day with he plight of these people again.

The French and UK govts have not done enough to set up places where such people can be 'invited' to go until they are assessed as to their real reasons to coming here along with their problems and difficulties.
The fact they have not done that and they end up in Hotels,is because if they do get here, until we do that process, we have some duty to keep them safe.

Or would the media and those who attack these people, prefer they were just abandoned on the streets of the UK or worse still rounded up, thrown into trucks like animals and discarded with no due process of finding out their own fears and issues as to why they are really in the state they are in and so desperate,so desperate they will risk their lives even to get away.

I almost no longer recognise great chunks of the UK for its hard line and cold attitude to such people any more.
I am often just left, watching, shaking my head, in near shame at the news and catching the so called newspaper headlines on issues like this.

[Samuel.]

Is it really?

You know they just a minute ago mentioned on the news that the ones that manage to get in are being put up in hotels paid for with taxpayer money, I think if people want to be outraged then most of them are perfectly entitled to do so.

Yes, it is. These people are being talked about as scum. It's far from an ideal situation but it's being fueled by the xenophobia in this country. It's fantastic that they're being looked after in the mean time, and the question that should be asked is why our poorest people are not treated like this, rather than the much popular question of why aren't they being treated like our poorest.

[Samuel.]

Sadly I would have hoped the UK would retain its fair balancing of at least wanting to find out first who of these are genuinely trying to escape persecution and total poverty in their own homelands,before branding them all scroungers and wastes of time and space.

What has happened to the compassion, understanding and basic fairness the UK used to say it prided itself on.

They are being out up in Hotels because we have not as Country made sure we have the right facilities for them to go to, how many years has this been a problem.
If this was millions of people.rather than few thousand at most,then fair enough, but how I wish the media particularly would get this in the right perspective and look compassionate more at a justice angle rather than brand other living human beings as near parasites.

How nice it would be too, if politicians leading the UK, and the PM particularly, did not help fuel the prejudice in the media against these people too.
I really am more and more every day coming to despair at the attitudes of the people in the UK now, I already with a passion hate its rotten biased media.

I am less and less feeling that I am or even want to be a UK citizen in a hard hearted nation that shows little respect for the lives of people without even knowing their true circumstances or why they may be fleeing elsewhere in the first place.
Awful situation but govts have known this was always possible,the UK one for sure has, it has been warned plenty from UKIP,who will likely have a field day with he plight of these people again.

The French and UK govts have not done enough to set up places where such people can be 'invited' to go until they are assessed as to their real reasons to coming here along with their problems and difficulties.
The fact they have not done that and they end up in Hotels,is because if they do get here, until we do that process, we have some duty to keep them safe.

Or would the media and those who attack these people, prefer they were just abandoned on the streets of the UK or worse still rounded up, thrown into trucks like animals and discarded with no due process of finding out their own fears and issues as to why they are really in the state they are in and so desperate,so deperate they will risk their lives even to get away.

I almost no longer recognise great chunks of the UK for its hard line and cold attitude to such people any more.
I am often just left watching shaking my head in near shame at the news and catching the so called newspaper headlines on issues like this.

I couldn't agree more.

[billy123]

There is something that i just dont get in all this.
The tunnel closures and delays and the chaos that has ensued on both sides of the tunnel was caused by striking French ferry workers blocking the tracks and placing burning piles of tyres on the tracks not migrants. The migrant story was that amidst the chaos caused by striking french workers a group of 150 migrants made 2000 attempts to breach the fence in one night.
How has that become 2000 migrants storm the tunnel? no mention of striking workers being the cause of disruption anymore and the 2000 attempted breaches is now being reported as 2000 migrants.

Dont get me wrong there needs to be changes on both ends of the tunnel proper immigration facilitys need to be set up on both ends and the free flow of traffic needs to be secured but i feel this is purposely being sensationalised and misreported for whatever reason.

[joeysteele]

There is something that i just dont get in all this.
The tunnel closures and delays and the chaos that has ensued on both sides of the tunnel was caused by striking French ferry workers blocking the tracks and placing burning piles of tyres on the tracks not migrants. The migrant story was that amidst the chaos caused by striking french workers a group of 150 migrants made 2000 attempts to breach the fence in one night.
How has that become 2000 migrants storm the tunnel? no mention of striking workers being the cause of disruption anymore and the 2000 attempted breaches is now being reported as 2000 migrants.

Excellent point,a point that really also helps demonstrate the unhealthy and prejudiced view of the media in the UK,as to migrants.

Even more sad and worrying is that people actually take on board the hysterical and prejudiced media line on this issue.

[Kizzy]

I agree with Joey and Samuel too, these people are demonised without question as to why they are paying so much to risk their lives to come here.
The argument that they could stop en route in any European country and be safe is not addressing the real issue, why are tens of thousands fleeing their own countries...
So what if they are made comfortable while they are processed for almost certain deportation, have we no civility left that we deny them a small respite before delivering them back to the uncertain land they riskd their lives to leave?

[lostalex]

if they have no verifiable I.D. and they all have the same sob stories, i'm sorry to be cynical, but i'm sure the human traffickers tell them exactly what type of sob stories to tell in order to be let in. How can you verify any of their stories? By calling their families? obviously their families will say whatever they are told to say.

It's a huge mess, and i don't believe half of the sob stories they tell.

There are tons of very sad stories being told, and the people telling them have MANY reasons to LIE. How do you find the real desperate refugees when all the fakes that just come for economic reasons are telling the same sad stories?

It's disgusting that these migrants are making us unable to determine people that are TRULY in need.

SHAME ON THEM. SHAME.

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[arista]

They Are Not Legal
many have no passports.
Thats the problem we have.

Get the New High Fence Up
Use Dogs on every lorry
to make sure all Illegals are Ejected.

[lostalex]

They Are Not Legal
many have no passports.
Thats the problem we have.

Get the New High Fence Up
Use Dogs on every lorry
to make sure all Illegals are Ejected.

but of course Arista, it does break your heart to know that some of those people really do need asylum. it is a shame also on us to deny a person that truly needs help. but how do we find the people who really deserve help among all the liars?

How do we help the people who really do deserve our protection?

It makes me upset to think about.

[arista]

but of course Arista, it does break your heart to know that some of those people really do need asylum. it is a shame also on us to deny a person that truly needs help. but how do we find the people who really deserve help among all the liars?

How do we help the people who really do deserve our protection?

It makes me upset to think about.


Yes they can go to Germany
harder life.


We are Full Up
in England.


Get the new High Fence Up
by the channel tunnel French side

[kirklancaster]

The 'Public Outrage' is not generally aimed at ANY help being given to GENUINE refugees - and there are some - just to the never ending thousands of fit, able bodied young men who make up the majority of these 'illegal immigrants opportunity seekers.

Criticising the general public of the UK just because they increasingly do not agree with the 'welcome -one-and-all' mentality is unfair.

The media cannot manipulate actual undoctored live tv footage of the conduct of some of these 'illegals' so it is banal to blame them.

[lostalex]

The 'Public Outrage' is not generally aimed at ANY help being given to GENUINE refugees - and there are some - just to the never ending thousands of fit, able bodied young men who make up the majority of these 'illegal immigrants opportunity seekers.

Criticising the general public of the UK just because they increasingly do not agree with the 'welcome -one-and-all' mentality is unfair.

The media cannot manipulate actual undoctored live tv footage of the conduct of some of these 'illegals' so it is banal to blame them.


that's right.

[Northern Monkey]

if they have no verifiable I.D. and they all have the same sob stories, i'm sorry to be cynical, but i'm sure the human traffickers tell them exactly what type of sob stories to tell in order to be let in. How can you verify any of their stories? By calling their families? obviously their families will say whatever they are told to say.

It's a huge mess, and i don't believe half of the sob stories they tell.

There are tons of very sad stories being told, and the people telling them have MANY reasons to LIE. How do you find the real desperate refugees when all the fakes that just come for economic reasons are telling the same sad stories?

It's disgusting that these migrants are making us unable to determine people that are TRULY in need.

SHAME ON THEM. SHAME.

https://bibpopcult.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/cerseis-walk-of-shame.jpgExactly:clap1:

[Northern Monkey]

I'm so happy to read these headlines, talk about what goes around comes around. Been saying this has been a growing problem for years , UKIP have tried to create their manifesto around the EU and immigration but nobody listens.

They're listening now.
So true!People walk around with their fingers in their ears until it's too late and then more than likely moan and blame everyone else when our over stretched infrastructure crumbles.

[arista]

The 'Public Outrage' is not generally aimed at ANY help being given to GENUINE refugees - and there are some - just to the never ending thousands of fit, able bodied young men who make up the majority of these 'illegal immigrants opportunity seekers.

Criticising the general public of the UK just because they increasingly do not agree with the 'welcome -one-and-all' mentality is unfair.

The media cannot manipulate actual undoctored live tv footage of the conduct of some of these 'illegals' so it is banal to blame them.


No Blame to them
but they are Illegal
no passports.
Get in Line

[Kizzy]

The 'Public Outrage' is not generally aimed at ANY help being given to GENUINE refugees - and there are some - just to the never ending thousands of fit, able bodied young men who make up the majority of these 'illegal immigrants opportunity seekers.

Criticising the general public of the UK just because they increasingly do not agree with the 'welcome -one-and-all' mentality is unfair.

The media cannot manipulate actual undoctored live tv footage of the conduct of some of these 'illegals' so it is banal to blame them.

Welcome one and all with no passport .. that's not really how it is though is it? less so now than ever.
The conduct of these 'illegals' who incidentally are also 'people' is understandable given the desperate circumstances.
I really don't feel many in the UK are best placed to empathise with the inhabitants of some parts of the world, we're too coddled here and know nothing of the real threat of survival to imagine having to flee our homeland.

[Northern Monkey]

There are literally millions of people who are suffering in Africa.We can't be a safe haven for them all.We are currently letting gangsters and people smugglers decide who we take in.Which likely include many economic migrants.The number one thing that we need is CONTROL.That is the key word.We currently have no idea who is coming in.We need to stop the swarming and secure our borders and decide ourselves who we let in.

[arista]

Yes a Solid higher fence
they can not get over

[Kizzy]

How about a dome? We could all just live under glass so nobody could ever get in again.

[arista]

How about a dome? We could all just live under glass so nobody could ever get in again.


No we do not need that
yet

[arista]

http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2015/8/1/409249/default/v1/10616005-1-1-736x414.jpg

new higher Tougher Fence needed fast

[joeysteele]

Welcome one and all with no passport .. that's not really how it is though is it? less so now than ever.
The conduct of these 'illegals' who incidentally are also 'people' is understandable given the desperate circumstances.
I really don't feel many in the UK are best placed to empathise with the inhabitants of some parts of the world, we're too coddled here and know nothing of the real threat of survival to imagine having to flee our homeland.

I agree with all you have said Kizzy.

[bots]

Welcome one and all with no passport .. that's not really how it is though is it? less so now than ever.
The conduct of these 'illegals' who incidentally are also 'people' is understandable given the desperate circumstances.
I really don't feel many in the UK are best placed to empathise with the inhabitants of some parts of the world, we're too coddled here and know nothing of the real threat of survival to imagine having to flee our homeland.

but the point is they are in France, and probably were in a few safe European countries before they arrived there. There is only one reason, given those circumstances, why they fight to gain illegal entry in to the UK, they think they will get an easy life with benefits paid.

[Kizzy]

but the point is they are in France, and probably were in a few safe European countries before they arrived there. There is only one reason, given those circumstances, why they fight to gain illegal entry in to the UK, they think they will get an easy life with benefits paid.

Yes I have heard that said many times, how do we know there aren't 1000s who have stopped off in many other European countries?
Just how can illegal immigrants claim benefits?... or work? There is the flaw in the logic, they can't.

[empire]

britain can't save the world, I believe in putting british people first, if britain did not have welfare, do you think that eighty percent of those people would come here, with the rise of the right wing in europe, the eu made this happen by not giving italy the right too, turn the boats away from there shores, norway deported a large mount of asylum seekers, and denmark is going too do the same, but in britain, they can't deport them, for some silly reasons, the soft touch is not going too make things better, if you let more in, then it won't stop,

[smudgie]

Stop the invasion, electrify the fences and keep them at bay, then let them be processed.
If they have destroyed their papers then no entry allowed. There we go, sorted.:shrug:

[Kizzy]

Above all they are humans... before 'illegals'

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/video/2015/jul/27/calais-migrants-jungle-camp-video

[Mitchell]

Dreading going through it on Friday

[joeysteele]

Above all they are humans... before 'illegals'

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/video/2015/jul/27/calais-migrants-jungle-camp-video

They are indeed, sadly it is unbelievably thought they should be treated like dangerous animals.

If I were in their place, and how I hope and pray I never would find myself in such a chaotic state.
Were I then to read and hear some of the hard line comments form this so called decent and caring UK citizenship,and/or get access to the rotten and vile prejudiced media of the UK, then the UK would be just about the last place I would even want to try to start to hope for a better life in now.

So intolerant, selfish and cold have great chunks of the UK now become.

[bots]

Yes I have heard that said many times, how do we know there aren't 1000s who have stopped off in many other European countries?
Just how can illegal immigrants claim benefits?... or work? There is the flaw in the logic, they can't.

there are illegal workers all over the country, its naive to think the problem doesn't exist

[Kizzy]

there are illegal workers all over the country, its naive to think the problem doesn't exist

If the govt tightened up on the employers involved that issue would be addressed. I don't know why you suggest I'm naive to this..however who is to blame for this practice, is it those being exploited?

[joeysteele]

If the govt tightened up on the employers involved that issue would be addressed. I don't know why you suggest I'm naive to this..however who is to blame for this practice, is it those being exploited?

No one coming here would refuse likely cash in hand lower pay to get them started when offered by 'bad' employers who are trying to just get cheap labour and use these migrants for that purpose too.

I agree with you totally, however it seems no matter how bad employers and businesses are,they should get supported and be run after by politicians and govts too it seems,no one daring to say anything bad as to employers and businesses.

You couldn't make it up could you Kizzy.
The migrants are to blame,not the 'dubious',(as to a word to use at best), employers.
people who should not be employers or even in business at all since they are actually breaking the law.
Still, just blame the migrants,that is the more fashionable thing to do.

[empire]

poor working familes who are paying high rent and struggling too feed there children, when migrants in lorries, will get free food, free housing, and won't have too work, and thanks too the state, we will end up paying for it, alot of migrants who step foot here, hate are way of life, and they look down on us, and there is alot of truth about that, when british working famlies are having too take food banks so there children won't go hungry, those migrants don't give a damn, about us,

[Nedusa]

Yes, it is. These people are being talked about as scum. It's far from an ideal situation but it's being fueled by the xenophobia in this country. It's fantastic that they're being looked after in the mean time, and the question that should be asked is why our poorest people are not treated like this, rather than the much popular question of why aren't they being treated like our poorest.

Perhaps it's time for a bit of healthy xenophobia...?

[joeysteele]

Perhaps it's time for a bit of healthy xenophobia...?

Sorry but for me, it should never be right to go down that line.

I really do despair for the UK now, I don't think I even recognise it as the Country I believed it was, all its decent values of protecting the weakest and poorest and caring for its sick, while internationally standing up against injustice for those persecuted worldwide.

This all seems to be being thrown away and allowing the blaming of immigrants for all the UKs ills,an agenda I hate and one which,I think, will further reduce the standing of the UK in the World and see more and more of its decent citizens going elsewhere if it continues.

That anyone can believe xenophobia can be right, is even more worrying.
Great Britain,not 'great' for much longer if this is the road where we are going down now.

[MTVN]

To be fair this is not something unique to Britain though, all of Europe is in a mess about the migrant influx and though it won't be reported in our media there is a fairly similar situation on the France-Italy border where migrants have been clashing with police after France sealed the border there. I think it's understandable that people would be a bit disconcerted by pictures of hundreds of people storming fences, hiding in lorries etc. Of course it's also understandable why such people would take such desperate measures to enter the UK. Yes they've passed through several safe countries but it's not like these are all the migrants in the world heading straight for the UK - most other EU countries take a lot more than we do and I don't think it's fair for us to tell Italy, Germany etc. that it's their problem and not ours just because we happen to be located at a more inconvenient place geographically than they do. Then again it's also the case that a lot of these people are not asylum seekers, they are economic migrants and somehow, somewhere along the line they have got a misleading impression that the UK has a lot more to offer them than other European countries. Otherwise I can't believe they would try so relentlessly when, because of the Schengen agreement, they could go almost anywhere they wanted on mainland Europe and try and build a life there instead of risking it trying to enter this country.

[bots]

I think people are missing the point though, illegal immigrants do get work, they do get benefits, and that's why they are here. We can continue to say, oh poor souls, let them in, its not their fault, or we can tighten up on employers, benefit agencies and our borders. These people are attempting to enter the country ILLEGALLY. It shouldn't be allowed.

[Kizzy]

Healthy xenophobia, is that a thing, if we had not offered refuge to many throughout the years how many members from here wouldn't be posting now? 'I'm alright Jack' that's the order of the day.
As Joey said the plight of the oppressed is either being ignored or suppressed, the media focus on the monetary cost to the UK only and the fact Joe bloggs from Kent has been stuck in traffic for 6hrs and his pie and mash will be on the table... No mention of what is causing the immigrants to flee in the first place :/

[Kizzy]

I think people are missing the point though, illegal immigrants do get work, they do get benefits, and that's why they are here. We can continue to say, oh poor souls, let them in, its not their fault, or we can tighten up on employers, benefit agencies and our borders. These people are attempting to enter the country ILLEGALLY. It shouldn't be allowed.

Is it clear what point you're making? You say they do get benefits, the point is to get benefits you must have been processed and have the relevant paperwork and an address.
I appreciate they are not coming her via the correct channels, to simply slap a label of criminal on each and every one is a very blinkered view.

[joeysteele]

Is it clear what point you're making? You say they do get benefits, the point is to get benefits you must have been processed and have the relevant paperwork and an address.
I appreciate they are not coming her via the correct channels, to simply slap a label of criminal on each and every one is a very blinkered view.

Sadly,this is the view I am finding more and more, I stand disillusioned looking at people I am talking to about this.

You are right as to the benefits,the govt can and should be doing more to address that issue, they have talked about it for years but still it is possible to claim,claim being the word, as you point out to get any benefits you fist have to 'claim' them.

Again, it is the migrants fault that they can claim them and not the systems.
So they become the really bad guys warranting being treated like dangerous animals.
Then the employers,they are the ones making the jobs available, avoiding declaring the due tax and national insurance contributions that should be made when employing someone.
Yet the immigrants taking the jobs are seen as the villains.
Jobs that would not be offered to home citizens since that could be harder to get away with,needing more pay for starters, and so this is a way of very cheap labour for bad employers and bad businesses.

I think the way this is being handles is a disgrace and as Germany has pointed out, they take far more migrants than the UK does.
We are turning into a selfish, whining nation that unless we wake up to how unjust this is, the UK standing in the World will plummet even further, and deservedly so in my view.
I am actually ashamed at this time of my own Country.

Anyway, Now I am off to court today now, to help some sick and disabled people fight for their cruelly and wrongfully removed benefits being taken from them under this shower of a govt.
Injustice is not sadly just with the immigrants worldwide but also against those in the UK too, who are genuinely sick and in great need to.

That however is another issue for elsewhere but just even more shame to add to the UKs standing in the World and how it treats people in dire need.
Whether it be home sickness benefits or fleeing persecution from poverty and danger in other Countries, where these migrants are trying to flee from.

[arista]

I think people are missing the point though, illegal immigrants do get work, they do get benefits, and that's why they are here. We can continue to say, oh poor souls, let them in, its not their fault, or we can tighten up on employers, benefit agencies and our borders. These people are attempting to enter the country ILLEGALLY. It shouldn't be allowed.


Yes Illegal Work

[bots]

Is it clear what point you're making? You say they do get benefits, the point is to get benefits you must have been processed and have the relevant paperwork and an address.
I appreciate they are not coming her via the correct channels, to simply slap a label of criminal on each and every one is a very blinkered view.

they do it with false documents, by lying, by whatever means gets them the cash. Do you honestly believe they enter the UK illegally and then become model citizens that don't break the law. I really do wonder at the naivety shown over these issues

[Kizzy]

they do it with false documents, by lying, by whatever means gets them the cash. Do you honestly believe they enter the UK illegally and then become model citizens that don't break the law. I really do wonder at the naivety shown over these issues

I'm not sure why you keep attempting to patronise me with your accusations of naivety.
If every illegal immigrant has access to forged paperwork then why are there 13 immigration removal centres, surely they all have the correct documentation waiting for them so they can claim benefits?

[arista]

EU border guards could be sent
into Calais to process and deport
migrants before they reach Britain
European Commission prepares
to offer help to the French government
Frontex could be sent within days to
help process asylum applications


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3185050/EU-border-guards-sent-Calais-process-deport-migrants-reach-Britain.html#ixzz3hs6PpRve



Yes Hurry Up

[Kizzy]

'A television presenter in Germany has triggered a huge online debate after calling for a public stand against the growth of racist attacks on refugees.

Anja Reschke used a commentary slot on Tagesthemen, the nationwide news bulletin of German public broadcaster ARD,to lambast hate-filled commentators whose language she said had helped incite arson attacks on refugee homes.

She said she was shocked at how socially acceptable it had become to publish racist rants under real names.

“Until recently, such commentators were hidden behind pseudonyms, but now these things are being aired under real names,” she said.

“Apparently it’s no longer embarrassing – on the contrary, in reaction to phrases like ‘filthy vermin should drown in the sea’, you get excited consensus and a lot of ‘likes’.

“If up until then you had been a little racist nobody, of course you suddenly feel great,” she said in the two-minute commentary.

The segment went viral within minutes of being broadcast, and by Thursday afternoon had been viewed more than 9m times, clocked up more than 250,000 likes, 20,000 comments, and had been shared more than 83,000 times on Facebook.'

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/aug/06/german-tv-presenter-anja-reschke-sparks-debate-support-refugees?CMP=fb_gu

[arista]

[‘filthy vermin should drown in the sea’,]


Yes Germany
keeping it real

[arista]

[Man Arrested After Walking Channel Tunnel
A 40-year-old man is understood to have
come close to completing the
perilous 31-mile journey from Calais to Folkestone.
Abdul Rahman Haroun, 40, who is understood to be Sudanese, was arrested at the scene by Kent Police]

http://news.sky.com/story/1531649/man-arrested-after-walking-channel-tunnel


http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2015/8/7/410452/default/v1/cegrab-20150807-105706-0-1-736x414.jpg

At least our side of the tunnel
got the Illegal arrested

[empire]

some people here need too wake up, and see that they are here for one thing, and it is too sponge off us, Im fed up with the left wing telling us that I have too put up and shut up, when we are the one's paying for their free luxury lifestyle, and they contribute nothing too are country, the australians keep them out, and we should follow example,

[Ammi]

some people here need too wake up, and see that they are here for one thing, and it is too sponge off us, Im fed up with the left wing telling us that I have too put up and shut up, when we are the one's paying for their free luxury lifestyle, and they contribute nothing too are country, the australians keep them out, and we should follow example,

..I think it's very much being awake and realistic to think that putting up higher fences/tightening borders etc isn't going to stop this because it isn't going to stop more migrants from coming/where one is stopped more will come so what does anything like that achieve ultimately..?..this is becoming much more than an immigration issue, it's a humanitarian issue and it has to be addressed as such by all European countries, which it isn't effectively being....

..and by your way, of saying that they're here for one thing/'to scrounge'..?...that's very similar to saying that all on benefits are scroungers so let's just cut everyone's benefits off and then we'll get the ones taking advantage....

[rubymoo]

It's a mess.....the whole thing is just one massive mess that's not being dealt with. I think the problem in hand is that the migrants are there, they are people, and they need to be processed, they have been through many safe countries before they got here, and they should be taken back to the first safe country and processed there........and then they should blow up the channel tunnel, we are an island, we were meant to be an island.

It's sad because who said we should stay in certain countries, why shouldn't there be a free flow of destination choices?

The problem as i see it is that they are fleeing their countries......why.......that's the issue that needs to be dealt with.

My heart broke a little to see small children being taken off a dinghy in Kos....families, they seem to have a vision that Europe is paved with gold and opportunities, one refugee said he thought Europe offered hope, but as he looked around (at the thousands of refugees) he realised there is no hope.

I don't know what the solution is, what i do know is that if i wanted better for my family, and was living under a threat, i would want to improve their lives and future, isn't that what we all want?

[waterhog]

migrant crisis compared to "long dark tunnel - 90's underground tune" 08.08.15

its not the 90's reborn
jungle mania is not sitting stocky
no DJ will scorn
not even "Debt or Brockie".
yes it is a long dark tunnel
i am not advocating speed
forget about any record better then sally gunnel
now one has done it this drip will bleed.
new fencing up in france
shinny silver barb wire
but the camps are better then any rave dance
what ever they supply these "ravers" won't tire.
smugglers are operating
yes the doormen close a eye that's blind
as long as a pound note is calculating
eventually in the UK they will wind.
france does not want this venue
they are suggesting the UK is a better rave scene
now the "navigator" is on the menu
the long dark tunnel tune is obscene.
i don't no the solution
the current laws we need to wave
this tunnel is letting in good and pollution
the question is how much longer is this rave.

(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVocZb4lKr8 )

[Mitchell]

I was there last night, didn't witness anything thankfully.

[arista]

18 'Illegal Immigrants' Found In Lorry On M1


And the Polish Driver is Arrested.


[Police have discovered 18 suspected
illegal immigrants stowed away
in a lorry stopped by officers on the M1 motorway.
Officers stopped the vehicle after a member
of the public called to report "suspicious activity"
on the lorry as it travelled along the M25 in Hertfordshire.]


http://news.sky.com/story/1532775/18-illegal-immigrants-found-in-lorry-on-m1


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/08/09/10/2B37EA6A00000578-3191095-image-m-16_1439114076361.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/08/09/10/2B395D2F00000578-3191095-image-m-18_1439114181791.jpg

[arista]

http://img.thesun.co.uk/aidemitlum/archive/02460/01_23231737_f26520_2460760a.jpg

[Many migrants are genuinely
fleeing for their lives
. Most are economic opportunists
paying gangsters big money to
take them where they want to go.
Ever-increasing numbers, a record
107,000 last month, have sparked dismay
across Europe, not just in the UK.
But scenes from Calais of angry
and determined young men banging
on the door to Britain is stoking particular
outrage this side of the Channel.
What gives them the right to demand entry?
Yet there is a noisy minority on the
political left who not only oppose border controls.]

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/suncolumnists/trevorkavanagh/6603913/Trevor-Kavanagh-Lefties-put-our-borders-at-risk.html


Yes Trevor Kavanagh
I say No we can not take Illegal Migrants
we can not afford it.

[empire]

the fact that anti immigration, parties are very strong here in europe, the swedish democrats, could take second or first place, and are top in the polls, the left have failed to get it, that the more you let in, the more the right wing get stronger, the fact that the left wing parties, have failed to put the needs of there voters first, Im sorry to say this, but europe is going to the far right, because every government has thrown its own people to the wolves, and has given outsiders, every thing they need, you can't blame the people for voting to the right, because there are so few options that other parties will deliver,

[Northern Monkey]

the fact that anti immigration, parties are very strong here in europe, the swedish democrats, could take second or first place, and are top in the polls, the left have failed to get it, that the more you let in, the more the right wing get stronger, the fact that the left wing parties, have failed to put the needs of there voters first, Im sorry to say this, but europe is going to the far right, because every government has thrown its own people to the wolves, and has given outsiders, every thing they need, you can't blame the people for voting to the right, because there are so few options that other parties will deliver,Exactly.A left wing party who will take a mature stand on border controls is desperately needed.People feel they have no option but to veer to the right because the left wing parties are weak on immigration.