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chuff me dizzy
24-06-2015, 10:23 PM
What a scary creep he is, confronted and standing up to a WOMAN (whether you like her on not) is out of order, he provoked her until she told him he was a psycho ,which I fully agree with, he IS a psycho and IMO has serious mental health problems Helen was spot on when she said to him "What would you do if these cameras were not here Brian ?" I will tell you my opinion on what he would have done ......he would have attacked her
BB should have stepped in earlier and removed him from the house,he's a dangerous man,with a temper that is not normal
Shame on anyone who condones his behaviour tonight

Daniel.
24-06-2015, 10:24 PM
I can't put into words how much I disagree with you

MB.
24-06-2015, 10:24 PM
jfc :umm2:

RichardG
24-06-2015, 10:24 PM
no

Withano
24-06-2015, 10:25 PM
hahhahaha ****

MB.
24-06-2015, 10:25 PM
The irony of accusing someone of being wrong in the head whilst defending Helen is unreal

Crimson Dynamo
24-06-2015, 10:26 PM
Quite right. She feared for her safety.

ItWasJustBanter
24-06-2015, 10:26 PM
Agreed. On numerous occasions I thought he displayed threatening behaviour. Also, he should have been reprimanded for his outbursts.

chuff me dizzy
24-06-2015, 10:27 PM
Agreed. On numerous occasions I thought he displayed threatening behaviour. Also, he should have been reprimanded for his outbursts.

Thats why he took the cowards way out over the wall,because he WOULD have been removed for his aggression

sampvt
24-06-2015, 10:27 PM
What a scary creep he is, confronted and standing up to a WOMAN (whether you like her on not) is out of order, he provoked her until she told him he was a psycho ,which I fully agree with, he IS a psycho and IMO has serious mental health problems Helen was spot on when she said to him "What would you do if these cameras were not here Brian ?" I will tell you my opinion on what he would have done ......he would have attacked her
BB should have stepped in earlier and removed him from the house,he's a dangerous man,with a temper that is not normal
Shame on anyone who condones his behaviour tonight

agree 1,000,000 %

qwerty42
24-06-2015, 10:27 PM
I agree. such a big bloke with the mind of a teen. Dangerous imo

lewis111
24-06-2015, 10:28 PM
You're just assuming he'd be violent though. Helen DID say those things, Brian just looked like he might of. Helen should've been removed, he was in no way aggressive, standing up is not aggression

Denver
24-06-2015, 10:28 PM
Brian started all this by blaming Helen for putting Chloe up when it was him

reece(:
24-06-2015, 10:28 PM
:umm2::umm2::umm2:

MB.
24-06-2015, 10:29 PM
Thats why he took the cowards way out over the wall,because he WOULD have been removed for his aggression

No, because Big Brother would have persuaded him to stay and they'd rather have as much confrontation between him and Helen as possible rather than let him leave with his dignity intact.

Livia
24-06-2015, 10:29 PM
Hilarious thread...

Babschap
24-06-2015, 10:29 PM
Good god OP, what utter blimmin rubbish!

SoFarSoGood282
24-06-2015, 10:29 PM
In every argument he has been involved in it was him who started it!! He doesn't like when he's not centre of attention!!

smudgie
24-06-2015, 10:30 PM
Strewth..the humour on here tonight:joker::joker:

ItWasJustBanter
24-06-2015, 10:30 PM
You're just assuming he'd be violent though. Helen DID say those things, Brian just looked like he might of. Helen should've been removed, he was in no way aggressive, standing up is not aggression

Ehm. And that's what she told him.

vivparker
24-06-2015, 10:31 PM
In every argument he has been involved in it was him who started it!! He doesn't like when he's not centre of attention!!

I'm so glad somebody else thinks this too

Glenn.
24-06-2015, 10:31 PM
On season just keeps on giving :clap1:

and fyi

Brian was right and Helen is a scummy little slut.

chuff me dizzy
24-06-2015, 10:32 PM
Brian started all this by blaming Helen for putting Chloe up when it was him

:clap1: Belo came in the house (like Ais has down) thinking he could beat Helen,he soon found out (like Ais has learnt alreadY) they are not bright enough to do it ,so he took the cowards way out

chuff me dizzy
24-06-2015, 10:33 PM
In every argument he has been involved in it was him who started it!! He doesn't like when he's not centre of attention!!

:worship:

jaxie
24-06-2015, 10:34 PM
What a scary creep he is, confronted and standing up to a WOMAN (whether you like her on not) is out of order, he provoked her until she told him he was a psycho ,which I fully agree with, he IS a psycho and IMO has serious mental health problems Helen was spot on when she said to him "What would you do if these cameras were not here Brian ?" I will tell you my opinion on what he would have done ......he would have attacked her
BB should have stepped in earlier and removed him from the house,he's a dangerous man,with a temper that is not normal
Shame on anyone who condones his behaviour tonight

It seems like Helen isn't the only one into defamation of character based on imagined intent. Shame on you.

Patricia4
24-06-2015, 10:37 PM
I agree with you Chuff people only hear what Helen said but Brian wasn't a angel he's a nasty piece of work.

Robertocarlo
24-06-2015, 11:54 PM
What a scary creep he is, confronted and standing up to a WOMAN (whether you like her on not) is out of order, he provoked her until she told him he was a psycho ,which I fully agree with, he IS a psycho and IMO has serious mental health problems Helen was spot on when she said to him "What would you do if these cameras were not here Brian ?" I will tell you my opinion on what he would have done ......he would have attacked her
BB should have stepped in earlier and removed him from the house,he's a dangerous man,with a temper that is not normal
Shame on anyone who condones his behaviour tonight

You're absolutely correct there. How Saint Brian has got away with what he has amazes me!! He's been using threatening posturing and HMs even had to hold him down for fear he'd attack someone! Now doesn't that say something?? I was appalled on BOTS how he was made out to be such a saint when he isn't. Of course big pals with Ryland et al. Says a lot doesn't it.

rionablue
25-06-2015, 12:10 AM
What a scary creep he is, confronted and standing up to a WOMAN (whether you like her on not) is out of order, he provoked her until she told him he was a psycho ,which I fully agree with, he IS a psycho and IMO has serious mental health problems Helen was spot on when she said to him "What would you do if these cameras were not here Brian ?" I will tell you my opinion on what he would have done ......he would have attacked her
BB should have stepped in earlier and removed him from the house,he's a dangerous man,with a temper that is not normal
Shame on anyone who condones his behaviour tonight

ARE YOU HAVING A ****ING LAUGH CHUFF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Jesus!!!!!

rusticgal
25-06-2015, 12:13 AM
Cannot believe this thread.
Pulling the 'because she's a woman' card is pretty cheap.
What gives any woman the right to say the things she said to another human being be it man or woman, would not rial that person up.
Helen hits well below the belt. She said tonight she antagonises to get a reaction...only to make them look bad. Too right he looked like he wanted to hit her...I wanted to and I am a placid person.
Anyone who tries to defend her actions can be no worse than what she is.
Brian isn't a favourite of mine...but he is a decent bloke. How anyone can condone her actions tonight simply beggars belief!!
Chuff..I am surprised at you!!

Iceman
25-06-2015, 12:15 AM
His whole behaviour and demeanour tonight was creepy. Had he stayed he would have been giving a warning at the least. He was very unnerving to watch tonight.

the truth
25-06-2015, 12:16 AM
His whole behaviour and demeanour tonight was creepy. Had he stayed he would have been giving a warning at the least. He was very unnerving to watch tonight.

how would you react to being called a psycho rapist murderer umpteen times on tv in front of millions?

the truth
25-06-2015, 12:17 AM
Cannot believe this thread.
Pulling the 'because she's a woman' card is pretty cheap.
What gives any woman the right to say the things she said to another human being be it man or woman, would not rial that person up.
Helen hits well below the belt. She said tonight she antagonises to get a reaction...only to make them look bad. Too right he looked like he wanted to hit her...I wanted to and I am a placid person.
Anyone who tries to defend her actions can be no worse than what she is.
Brian isn't a favourite of mine...but he is a decent bloke. How anyone can condone her actions tonight simply beggars belief!!
Chuff..I am surprised at you!!

its double standards sexism against men, plain and simple

Iceman
25-06-2015, 12:19 AM
how would you react to being called a psycho rapist murderer umpteen times on tv in front of millions?

Who was called a rapist? Who was called a murderer?? Nobody. LOOKS LIKE. It's a small thing but one that changes the meaning of what she is saying. She's not saying he is them things.

Also millions?? Really?

downthechippie
25-06-2015, 12:21 AM
What a scary creep he is, confronted and standing up to a WOMAN (whether you like her on not) is out of order, he provoked her until she told him he was a psycho ,which I fully agree with, he IS a psycho and IMO has serious mental health problems Helen was spot on when she said to him "What would you do if these cameras were not here Brian ?" I will tell you my opinion on what he would have done ......he would have attacked her
BB should have stepped in earlier and removed him from the house,he's a dangerous man,with a temper that is not normal
Shame on anyone who condones his behaviour tonight

You've lost your moral compass. I not only 'condone' Brian's behaviour, I applaud it, because he showed dignity and restraint.

Shame on you for defending a nasty woman who thinks that just because she's a woman she can call a decent man a rapist and a murderer - oh, sorry, she said he 'looked' like a rapist and a murderer.

Channel 5 should be quaking in their boots for allowing this stuff.

Marsh.
25-06-2015, 12:22 AM
On season just keeps on giving :clap1:

and fyi

Brian was right and Helen is a scummy little slut.

:joker: :joker: :joker:

the truth
25-06-2015, 12:22 AM
get her in court bri, you've got a load of witnesses too

JayBlaze
25-06-2015, 12:22 AM
Helen seems to have a problem with black men... Hmmmm I wonder why?

the truth
25-06-2015, 12:25 AM
Who was called a rapist? Who was called a murderer?? Nobody. LOOKS LIKE. It's a small thing but one that changes the meaning of what she is saying. She's not saying he is them things.

Also millions?? Really?

pedantic drivel.....she said looks like then she repeated the accusation several times and called him a psycho.....shes of course also called victor a cokehead and wished he died.

as for millions , what a trivial point, the launch was 1.8 million....its possible tonight broke 2 million
if you prefer 100s of thousands good luck to you, either way evil Helen has been exposed by bri the legend

Marsh.
25-06-2015, 12:26 AM
Saying you wouldn't care if someone you didn't like died is not the same as wishing they died.

Will I care one jot if Rolf Harris died? Probably not. Do I wish him to die now? Not really.

BB4fan
25-06-2015, 12:28 AM
Thats why he took the cowards way out over the wall,because he WOULD have been removed for his aggression



I agree. He would've been kicked out so the git escaped over the wall.

the truth
25-06-2015, 12:29 AM
I agree. He would've been kicked out so the git escaped over the wall.

more lies:nono:

Liam-
25-06-2015, 12:31 AM
Until Helen made those comments it was an equal argument, with Brian being the one making it even more personal by bringing Helen's family into it, they both have as good as they got, but then she let herself down majorly by saying something that was completely over the top and unecessary

BB4fan
25-06-2015, 12:32 AM
What a scary creep he is, confronted and standing up to a WOMAN (whether you like her on not) is out of order, he provoked her until she told him he was a psycho ,which I fully agree with, he IS a psycho and IMO has serious mental health problems Helen was spot on when she said to him "What would you do if these cameras were not here Brian ?" I will tell you my opinion on what he would have done ......he would have attacked her
BB should have stepped in earlier and removed him from the house,he's a dangerous man,with a temper that is not normal
Shame on anyone who condones his behaviour tonight

You are right. His behavior was completely unacceptable and frankly disgusting. He did provoke and push and he's been looking for it all week long. He then proceded to the diary room too start his fake tears for the viewing public to feel bad for the git.

He was crying because he knows he has a bad temper and NOT for the reasons he tried using. Helen was victimized there.

spot_on
25-06-2015, 12:32 AM
I was a Brian fan until this series.

the truth
25-06-2015, 12:32 AM
Until Helen made those comments it was an equal argument, with Brian being the one making it even more personal by bringing Helen's family into it, they both have as good as they got, but then she let herself down majorly by saying something that was completely over the top and unecessary

he has done it all the time...rapist psycho straightjackets drugdealer murderer oh and I hope victor dies just a few of her highlights

BB4fan
25-06-2015, 12:34 AM
He's a disgusting bad tempered git looking for the sympathy card. Completely different persona to that of BB8.

Total fake.

Liam-
25-06-2015, 12:34 AM
he has done it all the time...rapist psycho straightjackets drugdealer murderer oh and I hope victor dies just a few of her highlights

Who did she call a drug dealer? And again, she didn't wish that Victor died, she said she wouldn't be bothered if he did, it's probably not a nice thing to say, but she's not wrong and she's within her right to say that, stop twisting words to suit your own agenda.

BB4fan
25-06-2015, 12:40 AM
he has done it all the time...rapist psycho straightjackets drugdealer murderer oh and I hope victor dies just a few of her highlights

She never said she hoped he died don't dramatize it. At least get your facts right before you post something inaccurate.

bots
25-06-2015, 12:55 AM
What a scary creep he is, confronted and standing up to a WOMAN (whether you like her on not) is out of order, he provoked her until she told him he was a psycho ,which I fully agree with, he IS a psycho and IMO has serious mental health problems Helen was spot on when she said to him "What would you do if these cameras were not here Brian ?" I will tell you my opinion on what he would have done ......he would have attacked her
BB should have stepped in earlier and removed him from the house,he's a dangerous man,with a temper that is not normal
Shame on anyone who condones his behaviour tonight

I don't think it was normal behaviour by any of the protagonists to be honest. Brian does seem to have anger issues which the producers must have been well aware of. They set up a conflict between Helen and Brian and then sat back and watched the fur fly. Helen was well aware of how Brian was behaving and she still did the equivalent of poking a lion with a sharp stick in the face, ably assisted by Marc.

It was a conflict completely engineered by the producers, so I put 100% of the blame on them.

mimosveta
25-06-2015, 01:01 AM
What a scary creep he is, confronted and standing up to a WOMAN (whether you like her on not) is out of order, he provoked her until she told him he was a psycho ,which I fully agree with, he IS a psycho and IMO has serious mental health problems Helen was spot on when she said to him "What would you do if these cameras were not here Brian ?" I will tell you my opinion on what he would have done ......he would have attacked her
BB should have stepped in earlier and removed him from the house,he's a dangerous man,with a temper that is not normal
Shame on anyone who condones his behaviour tonight

I'm new here, but you are trolling, right?

mimosveta
25-06-2015, 01:05 AM
Brian does seem to have anger issues which the producers must have been well aware of.

I don't think this is 100% right. I think he's developed anger issues during his stay in this house. He should've run faster, because now he might have problems with anger on the outside too.

I do think Helen has broken him, which is a crime, he was so sweet before.

BB4fan
25-06-2015, 01:15 AM
I don't think this is 100% right. I think he's developed anger issues during his stay in this house. He should've run faster, because now he might have problems with anger on the outside too.

I do think Helen has broken him, which is a crime, he was so sweet before.

His anger issues would've always been there however, he was placed in a position where he couldn't help but reveal them. He obviously had a dislike for Helen and he couldn't control it.

To say she made him develop them issues is just unfair. He clearly has anger problems and his arguments with her brought them out. He also had a very bad temper with Marc who was far less aggressive toward him.

He clearly hated them both.

cookiemonster
25-06-2015, 01:18 AM
I don't think this is 100% right. I think he's developed anger issues during his stay in this house. He should've run faster, because now he might have problems with anger on the outside too.

I do think Helen has broken him, which is a crime, he was so sweet before.
you don't develop anger issues in a week..

mimosveta
25-06-2015, 01:25 AM
you don't develop anger issues in a week..

let's lock you up with Helen and see what you develop?

LukeB
25-06-2015, 01:27 AM
oh lord at this :umm2:

mimosveta
25-06-2015, 01:29 AM
His anger issues would've always been there however, he was placed in a position where he couldn't help but reveal them. He obviously had a dislike for Helen and he couldn't control it.

To say she made him develop them issues is just unfair. He clearly has anger problems and his arguments with her brought them out. He also had a very bad temper with Marc who was far less aggressive toward him.

He clearly hated them both.

that would all sound fair, but no, he used to be locked up with Charlie - he did get into shouting matches with her too, but this now, this was on another level, his face was twitching, ffs.

Unless someone has proof that he's been aggressive between his two BB appearances I maintain it was Helen who broke him.

And BB should pay for his psychiatric treatment for allowing this kind of bullying even now. He now has PTSD from being in BB house with Helen

cookiemonster
25-06-2015, 01:31 AM
let's lock you up with Helen and see what you develop?
Helen wouldn't bother me

it wouldn't bother me to be called any of the things Helen spews. if i know i'm not any of those things then i wouldn't care


He now has PTSD from being in BB house with Helen
seriously, how old are you?

Jack_
25-06-2015, 01:39 AM
You've made some awful claims in the past, but this really takes the piss :bored:

Helen's behaviour was indefensible. Fact.

bots
25-06-2015, 01:40 AM
I don't think this is 100% right. I think he's developed anger issues during his stay in this house. He should've run faster, because now he might have problems with anger on the outside too.

I do think Helen has broken him, which is a crime, he was so sweet before.

I'm not convinced on that as it involves many chemical reactions within the brain to effect that type of behaviour, and its not something that happens in such a short time period.

However, for the sake of discussion, even if Helen did initiate this change in him, the producers have been watching him 24 hours a day, for over a week. Talking to him regularly, assessing his mental health. They new precisely what his state of mind was, and they still engineered a conflict with someone who has no filters. They knew what would happen, therefore, they alone were responsible.

arney
25-06-2015, 01:50 AM
Anyone ever noticed any time Brian was on tv as a guest he was always twitchy, sharp movements of his upper body, his eyes were all over the place, and his hands covering his mouth a lot?

Poor soul shouldn't have been in there, he has issues.

Neurotic? Maybe... (Can be confused with psychotic.)

mimosveta
25-06-2015, 02:05 AM
Helen wouldn't bother me

it wouldn't bother me to be called any of the things Helen spews. if i know i'm not any of those things then i wouldn't care

You can't guarantee that, Brian is not a murderer or rapist, yet it bothered him. You can claim that you are stronger person than he is, sure, but unless we actually do lock you up with her we can't know, neither can you, cause over the years, many HM have admitted that they behave differently when inside a house.


seriously, how old are you?

my age is not a problem here, but seriousness with which you take my comments might be. I like to make dramatic comments. I'm not being 100% literal with meaning. Sorry about that.

Colbert-Bump
25-06-2015, 02:12 AM
Helen & Brian have been as bad as each other but Belo wants the fights for airtime like Nikki does in tasks.

mimosveta
25-06-2015, 02:17 AM
However, for the sake of discussion, even if Helen did initiate this change in him, the producers have been watching him 24 hours a day, for over a week. Talking to him regularly, assessing his mental health. They new precisely what his state of mind was, and they still engineered a conflict with someone who has no filters. They knew what would happen, therefore, they alone were responsible.

I don't have a problem with putting all the blame on producers, actually. Someone like her should never be allowed in the house. So it is their fault. I get that they want the ratings, but they have no right to endanger actual people for the sake of gaining more viewers and coverage. Sick.

It's odd that, among other things, she's called Brian a psycho - I doubt she ever looked up word "psycho(path)", but if she did, she'd find she has way more psychopathic traits than he does (although, word is kinda not used officially any more, preferred term today is antisocial personality disorder, not that it's relevant). Not only does he not even begin to fit the diagnosis, but she actually has some of the main, defining traits of psychopathy.

:elephant:

she wouldn't be the first one to cheats the psych test to get in.

camertone
25-06-2015, 02:53 AM
helen did not attack anyone in the house, she only retaliated and reacted to the attack on her. very understandable.

BB4fan
25-06-2015, 03:44 AM
that would all sound fair, but no, he used to be locked up with Charlie - he did get into shouting matches with her too, but this now, this was on another level, his face was twitching, ffs.

Unless someone has proof that he's been aggressive between his two BB appearances I maintain it was Helen who broke him.

And BB should pay for his psychiatric treatment for allowing this kind of bullying even now. He now has PTSD from being in BB house with Helen


Don't even bother. He was taking her on in there to keep up his good guy persona on the outside. As soon as he could, he shouted from the top of his lungs like an aggressive git then went into the diary room putting on the fake tears.

Half the time he started it on both Helen and Marc and was quite aggressive as well. Helen herself managed to sometimes keep her calm yet he still carried on.


The reason he did the tears was not because he felt bullied, but rather the fact that he knew he lost it BIG TIME and he was only thinking of himself and how he'd be viewed on the outside. Brian Bello clearly manages to hide his bad temper very well the first time he was on BB all those years ago.

Him and Charlie were a lot different because he didn't have the deep hate for her that he clearly has for Helen and you could see it in his eyes. He was actually pretty repulsive this time around and I'm left questioning his ditzy persona that everybody fell in love with to be fake. He wanted to be heroic on the outside but instead he just looked like an aggressive idiot.

Ammi
25-06-2015, 03:56 AM
..I kind of wonder what Helen would do if the cameras weren't on her and she wasn't getting paid and promoted in her career for being controversial..and doing it regardless of anyone and anything other than her own personal gain...and then she's offended that someone would suggest/could possibly suggest that she may be the likely one to marry someone for the money...she's the irony of all ironies and an extremely self centred/selfish and unpleasant person...

jennyjuniper
25-06-2015, 04:44 AM
that would all sound fair, but no, he used to be locked up with Charlie - he did get into shouting matches with her too, but this now, this was on another level, his face was twitching, ffs.

Unless someone has proof that he's been aggressive between his two BB appearances I maintain it was Helen who broke him.

And BB should pay for his psychiatric treatment for allowing this kind of bullying even now. He now has PTSD from being in BB house with Helen

Now YOU are the one that's trolling, right?

jaxie
25-06-2015, 08:18 AM
you don't develop anger issues in a week..

Anyone in close proximity to Helen would develop anger issues. Personally I think Brian acted with a lot of class when provoked to extremes. The things she said to him. :nono:

I think I would have smacked her.

Jamesy
25-06-2015, 08:21 AM
Tbf if I was spoken to like that by Helen I would have punched her one so Brian acted quite well [emoji23]

-Sue-
25-06-2015, 08:23 AM
Anyone in close proximity to Helen would develop anger issues. Personally I think Brian acted with a lot of class when provoked to extremes. The things she said to him. :nono:

Great post and well said :cheer2: I do think Brian reached the end of his tether he hates confrontation and finally the upset took over so he took the bait and rataliated.. a good man standing up for others and what did he get for standing up for himself called a murderer & rapist!

If anyone thinks what she said was acceptable shame on you!

VanessaFeltz.
25-06-2015, 08:24 AM
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL DEAD

Your posts always make me laugh :D

ebandit
25-06-2015, 08:35 AM
ah?......reminds me of my fave book................

where's brian......................

Mark L

Crimson Dynamo
25-06-2015, 09:01 AM
I think its hard for many to actually get perspective when they cannot recall basic facts

I have lost count by how many times I have read

"she called him a rapist and a murderer"

When she did not

What she said was he looked like one and in fact he did look very deranged at that point and as looks are subjective she said what she saw

Chuckyegg
25-06-2015, 09:07 AM
Helen bad, Brian good. Reality is not that black and white. However, this show is not real. They have all got a job to do.

ash2012
25-06-2015, 09:16 AM
has anyone else noticed its brian who always wants to have a go at helen, when helen isnt even focused on him, he gets involved like a mental freak and tries to make himself the hero of big brother, backfires as most housemates there just trying to control him than actually join in with him, such a fool, only comment helen should of not said was the murderer/rapist but he is a loose cannon.

-Sue-
25-06-2015, 09:16 AM
I think its hard for many to actually get perspective when they cannot recall basic facts

I have lost count by how many times I have read

"she called him a rapist and a murderer"

When she did not

What she said was he looked like one and in fact he did look very deranged at that point and as looks are subjective she said what she saw

But please notice Brian did not call out Helen by 'looks' he went by her behaviour & actions..which is the way it should be 'de-mentor comment' his comments were not 'hate filled' they were slightly humerous I mean come on it's a rare thing someone gets compared to a Harry Potter character as an insult ;)

Fosse
25-06-2015, 11:35 AM
Very harsh comment. Brian is not like that at all.

He's not intellectually challenged?

Ok then, borderline cretin/moron with violent tendencies.

rocket
25-06-2015, 11:57 AM
I can't put into words how much I disagree with you

Me too...
There is nothing good to say about that vile woman..

Angelika
25-06-2015, 11:59 AM
What a scary creep!

Shame on anyone who condones Helen's behaviour tonight

Glenn.
25-06-2015, 12:02 PM
Poor bullied Brian. Having to escape because of that witch.

ThriceShy
25-06-2015, 12:03 PM
I think its hard for many to actually get perspective when they cannot recall basic facts

I have lost count by how many times I have read

"she called him a rapist and a murderer"

When she did not

What she said was he looked like one and in fact he did look very deranged at that point and as looks are subjective she said what she saw

So why was she given a warning for it?

jennyjuniper
25-06-2015, 12:04 PM
I think the reason Belo went over the wall, was because if he had gone out via the diary room he would be perceived as a quitter. Whereas by going out over the wall he can convince the public that he was 'driven' out. Unfortunately for Belo, the public aren't as stupid as he obviously thinks they are.

Rorkimaru
25-06-2015, 12:05 PM
Honestly I don't buy the no cameras argument. If they were out of the house and in the real world both would have stood up and walked away way before it got close to that level. I do think he was aggressive and out of line but I don't think that he'd literally have attacked her.

Also Helen is a strong woman. I think she'd find it insulting that her gender means she's weaker and men can't stand up to her because she can stand up for herself. If they came to blows physically yeah, he'd probably demolish her but I don't think there is a realistic scenario where that'd happen.

ThriceShy
25-06-2015, 12:10 PM
He was driven out.

Don't forget, Brian was being paid for this so this was his place of employment.

Imagine being at work and some vile chav calling you a rapist and murderer and your boss doing nothing about it.

sungrass
25-06-2015, 12:21 PM
I do so wish that we had the arrows thing that you have on places where you leave comments - so you can get an accurate sense of where people stand. It seems as viewers we are divided here.

Im totally in agreement with Brian and think he is a legend.

I feel sorry for heartless Helen - it must have been hard for her growing up without love and affection and it shows.

If I was watching a family argument there - and one behaved like Helen and one behaved like Brian - I would be very ashamed of the one who behaved like Helen. I think what she said was way out of line. I wouldnt mind being called a scumbag - so what you know - I wouldnt provoke Brian - I would want to be his friend?? I just dont get why Helen has a 'need' to hate people - she continiously looks for reasons to put people down - thats her rader - its her thought process.

Brian has a heart - and to say you look like a rapist to a man like that is just - I dont dont know - gut wrenchingingly awful. It was a nasty thing to say on behalf of all women and men to trivialise something such as this - so Im sorry scumbag and rapist are not equal in terms of causing harm and defamation.

She is SO Loud!! when Nikki and Brian were talking - all you can hear is Helen in the background - I think she is ACTING 24/7 and I think she gets this much coverage from C5 because she gives them what they want. They wanted this. We are all allowing this by discussing it and watching it. Its been a very interesting series from an anthropological and psychological point of view.

They literally 'direct' her to be like this. It is selling your soul - and she is empty and heartless.

Griffin5779
25-06-2015, 12:40 PM
So why was she given a warning for it?

Because Brian Made a big deal out of..re branded it as "She called me a rapist"...complained to bb...then went over the wall...

C5 was covering their asses 1..because Brian is liked and they don't want to anger the public and 2 .. incase he tries to take legal action..


Helens comment where out of order..But Brian has call Helen and Marc everything under the sun while he has been in there as well displaying aggressive behavior...He has spent every free moment bitching and campaigning against helen and marc with the other housemates..do you recall what said about marc when he was bitching about Harry?

i can't see a single thing marc did last night to earn a warming...it was nothing more then the c5 saying "holy **** brian went over the wall..we better do some damage control or people are going to blame us...Helen and Marc..Helen and Marc..go on record by giving them a warning"

Northern Monkey
25-06-2015, 12:42 PM
Nah.He gets angry and frustrated and it shows on his face but he's a pussycat imo.

aman201
25-06-2015, 01:08 PM
what a scary creep he is, confronted and standing up to a woman (whether you like her on not) is out of order, he provoked her until she told him he was a psycho ,which i fully agree with, he is a psycho and imo has serious mental health problems helen was spot on when she said to him "what would you do if these cameras were not here brian ?" i will tell you my opinion on what he would have done ......he would have attacked her
bb should have stepped in earlier and removed him from the house,he's a dangerous man,with a temper that is not normal
shame on anyone who condones his behaviour tonight
yeah alright mate.

MB.
25-06-2015, 01:10 PM
I love how people can in one breath go 'omg people are SO OVERREACTING to what Helen did omg grow up it's just a TV show' and say 'eject Brian the nasty aggressive bully!!!! Helen was in the right!!!' in the next.

Good old on-season...

JamesBond
25-06-2015, 05:00 PM
Brian was asking for an argument and trying to intimidate Helen, and this wasn't the first time. His body launguage was threatening and not once was he called up on it, it's almost like Big Brother give him a pass for being mentally challenged. He kicks off and storms into the diary room and plays the victim so that he doesn't get in trouble, and BB fall for if every time asking if he's okay.

M X
25-06-2015, 05:08 PM
You're very wrong. :joker: