Lets not make Brian into some sort of hero...

[Josy]

Let's not make Brian into some sort of hero now, no way am I defending Helen, she's vile but Brian was a prick this past week in that house, seemed to be having some anger/temper issues too and he certainly gave out as much insults as he got (apart from the rapist and murderer comment)

So painting him into a hero figure is too far imo.

[Denver]

Can always rely on you to post a sensible non biased post :clap1:

[Liam-]

My thoughts exactly

[Glenn.]

I didn't find Brian to be a prick this week?

[Moosething]

Brian is a undisputed BB legend k

[armand.kay]

Legend Bri :clap1:

[joeysteele]

Let's not make Brian into some sort of hero now, no way am I defending Helen, she's vile but Brian was a prick this past week in that house, seemed to be having some anger/temper issues too and he certainly gave out as much insults as he got (apart from the rapist and murderer comment)

So painting him into a hero figure is too far imo.

The words Brian Belo and hero are not at all compatible for me.
Coward or wimp could be more appropriate.

[bots]

Yes, Brian has been a bit of a wally can't disagree with that

[Crimson Dynamo]

I thought he was an aggressive mess. Desperate for promo and sleekit

:yuk:

[Withano]

Anybody who has the balls to stand up to the two intimidating aggressive ***** is a hero to me

[RichardG]

Anybody who has the balls to stand up to the two intimidating aggressive ***** is a hero to me

:clap1: Legend Brian standing up to the bullies

[Black Dagger]

Josy :clap1:

[Iceman]

No chance of him being a hero. But the way he scaled the wall I reckon he thinks he can fly.

[Marsh.]

Shilpa Shetty he is not. :nono:

[LukeB]

Yeah Brian only got angry because Helen just loves to get reactions out of people. Of course he;s going to be like that with her. Brian hasn't been a prick imo. That was Helen and Marc tbh

[Denver]

Can we all have a decent discussion without turning a thread into a I hate so and so thread

[Marsh.]

Yeah Brian only got angry because Helen just loves to get reactions out of people. Of course he;s going to be like that with her. Brian hasn't been a prick imo. That was Helen and Marc tbh

Except Brian was the one who initiated the argument by getting pissy with Helen.

He can't get all shouty and angry and then blame Helen for him being angry.

Her comment was uncalled for but she didn't suddenly start on him out of nowhere.

[Liam-]

Brian was alway the one who started on Heen whenever they had arguments

[andybigbro]

I don't blame. Brian for getting angry. I would have done the same.

Compared to Helen, anyone's a hero IMO

[ItWasJustBanter]

Brian started most of the arguments between them.

He's not able to take criticism in the same way they are and so when there was a disagreement he would fly off the handle. then he'd retreat for a few hours and run things over in his mind, convincing himself of stuff he believed to be correct but which actually wasn't true.

He is a very unstable character. A few housemates will sleep safer tonight.

[Headie]

Let's not make Brian into some sort of hero now, no way am I defending Helen, she's vile but Brian was a prick this past week in that house, seemed to be having some anger/temper issues too and he certainly gave out as much insults as he got (apart from the rapist and murderer comment)

So painting him into a hero figure is too far imo.

http://uploadir.com/u/w5ou5205

[ThriceShy]

Brian was the epitome of dignity on BOTS.

Refused to slate Helen as he is the better person.

What a legend.

[qwerty42]

Na brian was a prick

[BB4fan]

Brian is a undisputed BB legend k


Well, he was an undisputed prick this past week.

[BB4fan]

Brian started most of the arguments between them.

He's not able to take criticism in the same way they are and so when there was a disagreement he would fly off the handle. then he'd retreat for a few hours and run things over in his mind, convincing himself of stuff he believed to be correct but which actually wasn't true.

He is a very unstable character. A few housemates will sleep safer tonight.


Definietly. He needs a straight jacket.

[hannah.]

http://uploadir.com/u/w5ou5205

That GIF has given me such flashbacks but I can't remember the story... halp

[BB1984]

Panel members on BOTS saying they wanted to batter her was out of line.

[joeysteele]

Brian started most of the arguments between them.

He's not able to take criticism in the same way they are and so when there was a disagreement he would fly off the handle. then he'd retreat for a few hours and run things over in his mind, convincing himself of stuff he believed to be correct but which actually wasn't true.

He is a very unstable character. A few housemates will sleep safer tonight.

He did.

Also Marc was talking reasonably to him and then Brian launched into an attack on Marc too.

Sorry, I just think Brian was looking for a way to leave where he could blame others.
Taking a cowards way out.

[BB4fan]

Panel members on BOTS saying they wanted to batter her was out of line.

Exactly. They're crititizing her for her behavior yet they are condoning violence in the process.

The irony.

[sungrass]

Brian - BB legend

[sungrass]

That GIF has given me such flashbacks but I can't remember the story... halp

I think Davina was sugguesting Makosi was making it up about needing the birth control pill after the orgy:hehe: but not sure

[Angelika]

Anybody who has the balls to stand up to the two intimidating aggressive ***** is a hero to me

Well said! :clap1:

[abhorson]

The legend fave, here alone on our poll has gone. Good bye to the legend. You had had enough of the wipes.

Good luck to you Brian.

[Robertocarlo]

Let's not make Brian into some sort of hero now, no way am I defending Helen, she's vile but Brian was a prick this past week in that house, seemed to be having some anger/temper issues too and he certainly gave out as much insults as he got (apart from the rapist and murderer comment)

So painting him into a hero figure is too far imo.

100% right there. Brian got as good as he gave.

[Will.]

Josy is Gods messenger :clap1:

[the truth]

lies and drivel
bri the legend funny honest genuine warm hearted caring and brave as hell

[downthechippie]

lies and drivel
bri the legend funny honest genuine warm hearted caring and brave as hell

Brian has gone right up in my estimation. Just look at all of them in that house, all scared of Helen - except Brian.

Brian is a hero.

[rionablue]

Let's not make Brian into some sort of hero now, no way am I defending Helen, she's vile but Brian was a prick this past week in that house, seemed to be having some anger/temper issues too and he certainly gave out as much insults as he got (apart from the rapist and murderer comment)

So painting him into a hero figure is too far imo.

I like Brian. Nobody is perfect and Helen should have been removed from the house for her absolutely horrible verbal bullying of Brian. Yes there was name calling on both sides but Brian was painted like a piece of ****. Brian is popular and was dignified in his interview in BBOTS. Helen is a bitch and she will get the worst boo's in the shows history

[abhorson]

Brian has gone right up in my estimation. Just look at all of them in that house, all scared of Helen - except Brian.

Brian is a hero.

Aye. How many times did Nikki (who is she) say she was scared of Helen.

What is wrong with them.

Brian the ultimate legend.

[the truth]

she should have been arrested not just evicted.

[ThriceShy]

Brian was a true hero.

The way he walked away from it and left Helen looking the fool was brilliant.

And then he didn't even slate her on BOTS.

The man is everything Helen never will be.

[Cold Sweat]

Who would you say came out of tonight's episode looking the better?

[Vicky.]

Hes been a tit all week, picking arguments out of thin air. Helen was way out of line tonight, but I'm not going to forget what a douche he has been just because she was even viler than usual.

[the truth]

Brian was a true hero.

The way he walked away from it and left Helen looking the fool was brilliant.

And then he didn't even slate her on BOTS.

The man is everything Helen never will be.

agreed. he wasn't so desperate to stay for cheap headlines, he stood by his principles ..hes the hero shes the sub human bigot

[spot_on]

Anybody who has the balls to stand up to the two intimidating aggressive ***** is a hero to me

More like a coward running away with his tail between his legs. I've never seen somebody climb a wall so fast:joker::joker::joker::joker:

[Iceman]

More like a coward running away with his tail between his legs. I've never seen somebody climb a wall so fast:joker::joker::joker::joker:

Exactly!!

[Withano]

More like a coward running away with his tail between his legs. I've never seen somebody climb a wall so fast:joker::joker::joker::joker:

A hero to me is a person who would try to stand up against bullying, succeeding or failing doesn't matter.

[mimosveta]

Let's not make Brian into some sort of hero now, no way am I defending Helen, she's vile but Brian was a prick this past week in that house, seemed to be having some anger/temper issues too and he certainly gave out as much insults as he got (apart from the rapist and murderer comment)

So painting him into a hero figure is too far imo.

I don't think he came out as hero cause he spent most of the time hiding away from Helen and Marc - not exactly hero like behavior. But I disagree on him giving out insults, as much as he got them. while he did respond, he was very well spoken, and he steam rolled over Marc easily, but he wasn't able to handle Helen cause she was way too outrageous - come on, he even explained it, if he sticks up for himself he's called a murderer and a rapist, and if he shuts up, he gets barrage of abuse - how the hell do you fight against that?

He made so much progress from when he was a housemate, but to be fair, ability to out talk Helen, not sure if that would qualify as progress to be honest...

[BeloTheBelt]

Brians my all time fave fave HM and a legend in my eyes but part of me feels he slightly damaged that legend status coming back in.
Still love him though.

[Rob!]

^^^i love your username :joker:

[camertone]

Let's not make Brian into some sort of hero now, no way am I defending Helen, she's vile but Brian was a prick this past week in that house, seemed to be having some anger/temper issues too and he certainly gave out as much insults as he got (apart from the rapist and murderer comment)

So painting him into a hero figure is too far imo.

100% agree

[jennyjuniper]

Let's not make Brian into some sort of hero now, no way am I defending Helen, she's vile but Brian was a prick this past week in that house, seemed to be having some anger/temper issues too and he certainly gave out as much insults as he got (apart from the rapist and murderer comment)

So painting him into a hero figure is too far imo.

Well said. Anyway hero's don't chicken out and run.

[Ammi]

..no Brian isn't a 'hero', I don't think that any BB housemate of any series could be described as a 'hero'...he is very flawed as we all are and sometimes can provoke/doesn't always have a great reaction to stuff etc...but for me he shows much more of a balance in his character/personality than Helen does in hers..because he at least has shown empathy with some of the other housemates and a respect for their feelings etc..and has shown more boundaries in my opinion in his 'dislike' of someone...even with her 'friends' in the house and the housemate she 'champions'/Marc...she doesn't really listen to him when he tries to tell her that she has gone too far with something she's said...it's always...ugggghh, they're just going for the sympathy/fake tears/going for the magazine deals or whatever, while she herself is cosy in the DR writing her own column and for her own gain and I totally agree with Nikki when she said that Helen's character had been 'confirmed' to her, I think that she always suspects in others what is her own mind's priority...when she says...oh, they're just reacting for that reason of gaining public attention, it's not because those people are but because that's the foremost focus and thing on her own mind ....


....no, no making out of there being 'heroes' in the house, I agree... but when someone is targeted with the venom and spite that Helen has shown with Brian and yeah maybe 'bullied' even at times/and in any 'real life' similar situation...I just don't personally go with the .....hmmmm, well actually...they're not really that great themselves all of the time in some things they do either....

[-Sue-]

I can't say I have seen Brian be aggressive - angry yes but I think quite rightly so - to me people that are not fans of confrontation will take so much of what people say and then the upset gets too much and they must speak up. Being antagonised and egged on by Helen his poor blood must have boiled and he snapped and had to shout but I don't see him as being overly aggressive just very upset.

Bearing in mind last nights HL show (the one with the god awful murderer & rapist comments from Helen) how can that compare to Brain saying Marc & Helen were like the de-mentors from Harry Potter! Even his comments towards them the language he uses is not OTT hurtful.

[Ammi]

I can't say I have seen Brian be aggressive - angry yes but I think quite rightly so - to me people that are not fans of confrontation will take so much of what people say and then the upset gets too much and they must speak up. Being antagonised and egged on by Helen his poor blood must have boiled and he snapped and had to shout but I don't see him as being overly aggressive just very upset.

Bearing in mind last nights HL show (the one with the god awful murderer & rapist comments from Helen) how can that compare to Brain saying Marc & Helen were like the de-mentors from Harry Potter! Even his comments towards them the language he uses is not OTT hurtful.

..I think this is a great point as well Sue...what his face is often showing is a control of anger and reaction that he knows is being deliberately provoked rather than a control of aggression...and then of course Helen in her lack of any acceptable 'truth/honesty' as she likes to excuse things she says as...just provoked that control of anger with....murderer/rapist type face/look...

[arista]

I thought he was an aggressive mess. Desperate for promo and sleekit

:yuk:


Bang On Right LT.

[-Sue-]

..I think this is a great point as well Sue...what his face is often showing is a control of anger and reaction that he knows is being deliberately provoked rather than a control of aggression...and then of course Helen in her lack of any acceptable 'truth/honesty' as she likes to excuse things she says as...just provoked that control of anger with....murderer/rapist type face/look...

Agreed nicely put :D

Can't believe some of the threads on here today calling Brian aggressive & should have been removed etc.. :shrug:

[Cherie]

I don't blame. Brian for getting angry. I would have done the same.

Compared to Helen, anyone's a hero IMO

.

[Knispel]

the guy is a complete psycho

[rubymoo]

In all honesty (to me) Brian actually is a hero, he was the only one who would face up to Helen and Marc, Marc has admitted that he antagonized Brian, and from what i've seen Helen has done nothing but bait, goad and antagonize Brian. There's only so much a person can take:shrug:

The others are so scared of Helen, that Brian probably had to deal with all of them coming to him with their fears and worries, and then he probably felt he had to do something to protect them.

I'm a bit like that if i see nastiness, unfairness or bullying then i feel that it's up to me to stick up for that person, especially if that person can't deal with the situation.

He's a natural protector.

#teambrian

[-Sue-]

In all honesty (to me) Brian actually is a hero, he was the only one who would face up to Helen and Marc, Marc has admitted that he antagonized Brian, and from what i've seen Helen has done nothing but bait, goad and antagonize Brian. There's only so much a person can take:shrug:

The others are so scared of Helen, that Brian probably had to deal with all of them coming to him with their fears and worries, and then he probably felt he had to do something to protect them.

I'm a bit like that if i see nastiness, unfairness or bullying then i feel that it's up to me to stick up for that person, especially if that person can't deal with the situation.

He's a natural protector.

#teambrian

Great post and agree 100%

[Kazanne]

Brian played his part in all that as much as Helen or Marc,he is no hero,he hasn't fought for his country,he legged it over a BB wall,which imo was always planned to give the show their daily 'Rocking the house',he's a numpty and I really liked him when he went in.

[chuff me dizzy]

Let's not make Brian into some sort of hero now, no way am I defending Helen, she's vile but Brian was a prick this past week in that house, seemed to be having some anger/temper issues too and he certainly gave out as much insults as he got (apart from the rapist and murderer comment)

So painting him into a hero figure is too far imo.

Did you see BOTS last night? it was like Nelson Mandela had arrived, Belo played it like a fine tuned fiddle, puppy dog eyes, sweet and humble ,when hours earlier he would have hit a woman had Danny not stepped in

[Griffin5779]

Let's not make Brian into some sort of hero now, no way am I defending Helen, she's vile but Brian was a prick this past week in that house, seemed to be having some anger/temper issues too and he certainly gave out as much insults as he got (apart from the rapist and murderer comment)

So painting him into a hero figure is too far imo.

100% i'm at a loss at the total love he gets on BOTS...I had a positive opinion of him till he went in this time

[reece(:]

Brian was a true hero.

The way he walked away from it and left Helen looking the fool was brilliant.

And then he didn't even slate her on BOTS.

The man is everything Helen never will be.
:clap1:

A class act.

[just thinkin]

Brian has dignity and lots of principles...unlike those two neanderthals in the house. Good on him.

seemingly those two were following him around the house all day when he was trying to have some downtime away from them.

[-Sue-]

Brian has dignity and lots of principles...unlike those two neanderthals in the house. Good on him.
:clap2:

[jaxie]

..no Brian isn't a 'hero', I don't think that any BB housemate of any series could be described as a 'hero'...he is very flawed as we all are and sometimes can provoke/doesn't always have a great reaction to stuff etc...but for me he shows much more of a balance in his character/personality than Helen does in hers..because he at least has shown empathy with some of the other housemates and a respect for their feelings etc..and has shown more boundaries in my opinion in his 'dislike' of someone...even with her 'friends' in the house and the housemate she 'champions'/Marc...she doesn't really listen to him when he tries to tell her that she has gone too far with something she's said...it's always...ugggghh, they're just going for the sympathy/fake tears/going for the magazine deals or whatever, while she herself is cosy in the DR writing her own column and for her own gain and I totally agree with Nikki when she said that Helen's character had been 'confirmed' to her, I think that she always suspects in others what is her own mind's priority...when she says...oh, they're just reacting for that reason of gaining public attention, it's not because those people are but because that's the foremost focus and thing on her own mind ....


....no, no making out of there being 'heroes' in the house, I agree... but when someone is targeted with the venom and spite that Helen has shown with Brian and yeah maybe 'bullied' even at times/and in any 'real life' similar situation...I just don't personally go with the .....hmmmm, well actually...they're not really that great themselves all of the time in some things they do either....

:clap1:

[just thinkin]

Did you see BOTS last night? it was like Nelson Mandela had arrived, Belo played it like a fine tuned fiddle, puppy dog eyes, sweet and humble ,when hours earlier he would have hit a woman had Danny not stepped in

wow...just because that helen one says....what would you do if the camera wasn't here, hit me...or something along those lines, does NOT MEAN that brian was about to hit her.

but sure, she planted that thought in your head - run with it - just what she wants. :dog: :cheer2:

[jaxie]

Did you see BOTS last night? it was like Nelson Mandela had arrived, Belo played it like a fine tuned fiddle, puppy dog eyes, sweet and humble ,when hours earlier he would have hit a woman had Danny not stepped in

You make some incredibly extreme claims based on air. It's quite bizarre.

[Fendertele]

Did you see BOTS last night? it was like Nelson Mandela had arrived, Belo played it like a fine tuned fiddle, puppy dog eyes, sweet and humble ,when hours earlier he would have hit a woman had Danny not stepped in

Yes I did Chuff, and I had to switch off, when Jade was on the phone to him, where do these people get off, and the 'rent-A-audience'...I'm afraid Helen played right into his hands, he played the victim, he knew he would get some bad remark from her, if he pushed it far enough, and as soon as she said it, it was game over, and he was out of there...Not so dumb Mr. Belo...

[HBB1508]

Brian has dignity and lots of principles...unlike those two neanderthals in the house. Good on him.

seemingly those two were following him around the house all day when he was trying to have some downtime away from them.

Was just going to post about this as well - having those two follow you around when you are trying to keep away from them must really wind you up I would have thought, no wonder Brian lost it with them.

[lindylou1422]

I think the producers are invested in keeping their 'legends' as 'legends' even tho Brian clearly has anger issues that are about him, not about Marc, gave him reason to explode. Nicki also demanded to be treated differently and got special treatment, and Helen did not show how she had changed (something she eventually had said last year in the diary room) I think Marc has taken so much abuse from everyone, especially from known masoganist John Mc - he has gained my respect for being able to handle so much vitriol and insult thrown at him. Now he is being bullied, but he is argueing his point, not crying in the diary room

[chuff me dizzy]

Let's not make Brian into some sort of hero now, no way am I defending Helen, she's vile but Brian was a prick this past week in that house, seemed to be having some anger/temper issues too and he certainly gave out as much insults as he got (apart from the rapist and murderer comment)

So painting him into a hero figure is too far imo.

:clap1:

[cassieparis]

Let's not make Brian into some sort of hero now, no way am I defending Helen, she's vile but Brian was a prick this past week in that house, seemed to be having some anger/temper issues too and he certainly gave out as much insults as he got (apart from the rapist and murderer comment)

So painting him into a hero figure is too far imo.

Brian isn't a hero. He is someone as imperfect as the rest of the H/Ms but he has been publicly and "professionally" if not viciously maligned using an old *****'s trick and it's worked very well.

The hero analogies are made to redress the balance of Helen's bigoted and malicious statements.

This board is full of those running with Helen's claims of feeling threatened afraid bullied and creeped out.

Helen probably did feel all of her claims, as Brian shone a very bright spotlight on her behaviour. She should be very uncomfortable and I applaud Brian for exposing even more of the defects in her damaged, fragile ego of a character.

Helen is a coward who brought a shot gun to a fist fight and blasted Brian's guts everywhere.

"So let's not make Brian out to be a hero" but let's not demonize him either .........by running with the cheating hooker's device used to divert scrutiny from her trick turning ways. imo

[jaxie]

Brian isn't a hero. He is someone as imperfect as the rest of the H/Ms but he has been publicly and "professionally" if not viciously maligned using an old *****'s trick and it's worked very well.

The hero analogies are made to redress the balance of Helen's bigoted and malicious statements.

This board is full of those running with Helen's claims of feeling threatened afraid bullied and creeped out.

Helen probably did feel all of her claims, as Brian shone a very bright spotlight on her behaviour. She should be very uncomfortable and I applaud Brian for exposing even more of the defects in her damaged, fragile ego of a character.

Helen is a coward who brought a shot gun to a fist fight and blasted Brian's guts everywhere.

"So let's not make Brian out to be a hero" but let's not demonize him either .........by running with the cheating hooker's device used to divert scrutiny from her trick turning ways. imo

Great post! :clap1:

[Robodog]

I totally agree with OP

I was a huge Brian fan before he went into the house, he was in my top 3 all time HMs but i'm afraid to say he was a major let down in there.

He obviously has aggression issues and maybe some kind of issue with inferiority/bullying from the past, which he brought with him into the house and unfairly projected and directed onto Helen and Marc; even before they had said or done anything to him.

Brian was labelling them bullies, scumbags, evil human beings, energy sucking dementers etc - really nasty horrible stuff to call people and accuse people of - but never had examples, just said 'it's how they make me feel'. Sorry Brian but that's not being bullied - that's just YOU not liking people! Don't label them 'bullies' just because they are more dominant in a group setting than you are! That's just life - wherever you go!

Brian knows that Helen is seen as a bully by many on the outside so he categorised her as that for himself, knowing full well the public would back him up (plus the hate-mob all booed her on the way in etc).

So then he launched three horrible verbal attacks on her, physically intimidating her and needing to be restrained while he shouted and pointed in her face. Who looked like a bully at that point? Err.... Not Helen..

No wonder on the third outburst she said he looked like a murderer - he did LOOK like he wanted to kill her! (But not rape her, that was a bit much.).

But everyone excused Brian's intimidation and aggression because he was categorised as the 'good guy' while Helen could do no right because she was categorised as the 'bad guy'.

As the 'good guy', Brian could be as vicious about or TO Helen as he liked and it was labelled as 'defence' - even when HE was the one who attacked HER.

But as the 'bad guy', Helen could not retaliate without being labelled as the 'attacker' even when she was the one DEFENDING herself against Brian's attacks!

Brian rode the wave of hero worship on BOTS which was not really love of Brian's behaviour, but people hating Helen and cheering anyone who was as nasty as possible about her.

He is only the hero in the eyes of the people who are blinded by their own hatred of Helen; people who are mostly hypocrites as they tend to be much nastier ABOUT Helen than she has ever been on the show herself.

So no, Brian is only hero to the Anti-Helen Hate Mob. His behaviour in the house was far worse than hers.

[johnx]

He's a schemer who played the Jade Goody card to win-think it's fair to say he knew who Shakespeare was.The shambolic showmance with the twin didn't hurt either.Also bit of a pest with the ladies-wont leave them alone and will grab some ass when given the slightest bit of encouragement ala Jade.

[ItWasJustBanter]

The diary room entry where he's trying to come up with numerous words for female is the fakest thing I've seen in Big Brother. A complete fabrication, as was his fights during his time in the house.

Will he be at the final since he's cut his ties?

[jennyjuniper]

Brian is a undisputed BB legend k

I'm disputing it.