Did Marc deserve the warning.

[Rorkimaru]

I'm not defending any of Marc's past behaviour here, I'm just talking about the argument that caused Brian to leave.

Mark was one of the first to try and calm Helen down and to object when she said rapist and murderer. Prior to that anything Marc said during to argument was at most on par with what Brian and Nikki were saying. He seemed genuinely and IMO fairly surprised when they said his behaviour was wholly inappropriate. It does seem like they were reaching with the example of him saying psycho. It's not a nice thing to say but Brian wasn't exactly being nice either.

[joeysteele]

No, not for me and Brian was acting like he was deranged anyway.

Climbing over a wall when all you had to do was go to the diary room and insist on leaving.
So much too for his false concern for Nikki,leaving her there on her own.

[Rorkimaru]

Climbing the wall is just baying for attention. It's not even an original move, it was controversial like, 8 years ago or something but now it's just a repeat. He could walk out through the diary room but no, he wanted to go out with a bang and sell some interviews. Plus being first out means his side is heard first.

[Josy]

Nope

[ItWasJustBanter]

I don't think so. He was being truthful with Brian and AGAIN Brian flew into a rage when they were just having a discussion.

[Denver]

No when has calling someone a psychopath warranted a warning in the house?

[LukeB]

Yes tbh.

[Visage]

I'm surprised he hasn't been warned so far, but even more surprised by him receiving one this evening. From what I could tell he was trying to calm Helen down not make the argument carry on.

[hannah.]

I'm surprised he hasn't been warned so far, but even more surprised by him receiving one this evening. From what I could tell he was trying to calm Helen down not make the argument carry on.

This.

Also he was an absolute weasel tonight but didn't do anything that warranted a warning, IMO. Helen absolutely did without doubt, however. They should have had her in the diary room well before Brian could have climbed the wall.

[Shaun]

Not tonight, no. But other times...

Also, on the subject of archetypal dickheads with multiple warnings and yet no ejection, how many has he had now?

[Rorkimaru]

I'm surprised he hasn't been warned so far, but even more surprised by him receiving one this evening. From what I could tell he was trying to calm Helen down not make the argument carry on.

Exactly my point. Warning him tonight was very surprising in my opinion. I could be wrong but I feel like others have used the word psycho previously in this season, or at least synonyms, both Marc and others and occasionally directed at Marc yet this time it's not ok. Just a confusing choice for them to have made.

[Angelika]

Very definitely - he is by his own admission an educated man with science degrees - he knows where the boundaries are. If he doesn't he should be taught where they are.

I'm surprised he wasn't thrown out to be honest.

[abhorson]

Of course he did. He has only survived because as always with new HM's, they get two weeks, then BB fixed it so he got two more.

When he goes up, they will switch to VTS. Might as well be Helen, all over again with the final pass.

[Jack_]

He didn't get a warning, it was a reprimand. Had it been a warning I'd have disagreed cause he definitely wasn't as bad as Helen but I think a reprimanding was fair enough

[bots]

yes, he did deserve the warning because he was part of the goading team of him and helen. Clearly, it wasn't as bad as what Helen said, which should have ended her legend stint immediately, but he was complicit on the undeniable verbal attack on Brian.

For people who say he reacted badly, i say to you, would you accept someone publicly saying that about you? I think not.

[Rorkimaru]

Very definitely - he is by his own admission an educated man with science degrees - he knows where the boundaries are. If he doesn't he should be taught where they are.

I'm surprised he wasn't thrown out to be honest.

What did he do or say that was worse than the stuff Brian came at him with?

[Vicky.]

I don't think he did anything wrong tbh, Helens was obviously deserved though. I just made a thread about this which I shall now delete :p

[Rorkimaru]

I don't think he did anything wrong tbh, Helens was obviously deserved though. I just made a thread about this which I shall now delete :p

Helen's was absolutely deserved. I agree with that. She allowed herself to get played and then she danced harder to the tune than anyone could have hoped for. Of course Marc is going to suffer the consequences despite him trying to stop her.

[Iceman]

I don't think he did anything wrong tbh, Helens was obviously deserved though. I just made a thread about this which I shall now delete :p

After I wrote out a lengthy reply for post of the year :fist:

[Vicky.]

After I wrote out a lengthy reply for post of the year :fist:

Sorry :blush2:

[erinp5]

For the mere fact that he told Helen NOT to calm down ...what an arse he is .

[Withano]

The rule is dont use language that could cause offense to the housemates or the viewers..

To call someone a psycho as a joke would warrant a warning and if Jack done it, half the people in this thread would be slating him.
Marc didn't call him a psycho as a joke though, Marc called him a psycho with intent to cause offense. Obvious rule break deserves a warning.

[joeysteele]

After I wrote out a lengthy reply for post of the year :fist:

:joker: I have done that loads,spent a fair while doing one of my 'essays' and then finding the thread is closed when I try to submit it.
It has happened twice tonight.

I thought I was being told something.:joker:

[BENDERBOY]

For the pants alone he deserved a warning.

He was obviously egging her on til she went too far and then he tried to save himself, cretin.

[Iceman]

:joker: I have done that loads,spent a fair while doing one of my 'essays' and then finding the thread is closed when I try to submit it.
It has happened twice tonight.

I thought I was being told something.:joker:

That's why I try not close threads. Rather clean them but then they just don't make sense lol.

Well Vicky has ruined you all seeing post of the year, maybe next year guys, maybe next year. :idc:

[abhorson]

For the pants alone he deserved a warning.

He was obviously egging her on til she went too far and then he tried to save himself, cretin.

:clap1::clap1:

He knows what he is doing. He thinks the Helen way of last year is the way to go. But the pillock does not have a final pass and has not been up for eviction.

Can't wait for him to be up in a VTE. Bye bye.

[Robertocarlo]

Marc did not deserve that warning. If he did why didn't Brian receive one after becoming threatening and quite violently aggressive during most of his rows? Of course we all know that Saint Brian Bellend can do no wrong can he. As seen on BOTS tonight - a disgustingly bias programme.

[Withano]

Marc did not deserve that warning. If he did why didn't Brian receive one after becoming threatening and quite violently aggressive during most of his rows? Of course we all know that Saint Brian Bellend can do no wrong can he. As seen on BOTS tonight - a disgustingly bias programme.

He may have done? The warning was given in the morning, we'll probably never know. But I don't know what Brian said that could have caused offence to the housemates or the public? This was the rule which Marc clearly broke but I can't remember Brian breaking it.

[Robertocarlo]

He may have done? The warning was given in the morning, we'll probably never know. But I don't know what Brian said that could have caused offence to the housemates or the public? This was the rule which Marc clearly broke but I can't remember Brian breaking it.

In most of Brian's outbursts he overreacts and uses very threatening posturing to the extent he has to be held back each time. To me that's far worse than being called psycho. Brian simply cannot do wrong in some eyes can he.

[Iceman]

He may have done? The warning was given in the morning, we'll probably never know. But I don't know what Brian said that could have caused offence to the housemates or the public? This was the rule which Marc clearly broke but I can't remember Brian breaking it.

From past BB's (I'm just using this is a broad example), they could have given him a warning for his aggressive manner and demeanour. If a housemate had of complained that they felt uneasy they could complain to BB.

Now that's just a general one I can think of and it would be worded differently but you get the idea.

[Withano]

From past BB's (I'm just using this is a broad example), they could have given him a warning for his aggressive manner and demeanour. If a housemate had of complained that they felt uneasy they could complain to BB.

Now that's just a general one I can think of and it would be worded differently but you get the idea.

Well thats my point exactly (by the way, its weird that you found fault in Brian but not Marc when it was clear who was worse) Marc could have caused offence to the public and got reprimanded for it and rightly so, if Big Brother felt as if Brians behaviour could have intimidated other housemates then he probably would have been given the same punishment, but we'll probably never know.

[Iceman]

Well thats my point exactly (by the way, its weird that you found fault in Brian but not Marc when it was clear who was worse) Marc could have caused offence to the public and got reprimanded for it and rightly so, if Big Brother felt as if Brians behaviour could have intimidated other housemates then he probably would have been given the same punishment, but we'll probably never know.

Well you asked what Brian could be done for breaking rules. Hence why I posted about him. You asked about Brian I answered, so don't go in like I'm nitpicking.

[Rorkimaru]

I never knew taking off shoes could be intimidating before Brian Bello graced my screen. The dude was a manipulative aggressive dick who had flawless timing when it came to retreating into the sweet innocent act. He played harder than any other housemate in there.

[mimosveta]

yeah, he called Brian a psycho. Helen didn't make him say that, he's an asshole and a ****ing bully, he fakes "care" but occasionally, his true personality rears its ugly head (like how he claims he didn't get Jade evicted by staying out of it, when by staying out of it he effectively gave majority vote to nominate her, and not staying out of it would have saved her, filthy scum)

although I have to say, him yelling "that's what I have, a brain, a brain you ****ing dumbass" was hilarious cause Brian spilled such gorgeous word asphalt over him, and he was gasping unable to come up with any sort of response, it was so beautiful. Cause Brian is regarded as dumbass, where he's not dumb a all, in face is very intelligent, and sure, during his BB stint, he was severely under-educated, but has clearly worked on it over the years, and the "scientist" Marc can't even see it, (with all his education he can't tell that radioactive particles aren't chemical elements (referring to his tattoo) and has 0 ability to read other people, which most well educated people learn over the years if not born with - not him).

No wonder he was on Brian's back all this time. There's not a single trait that makes him even equal to Brian, Brian looks like god compared to him, Brian is funny where he's just insulting, Brian is loved where he's puke inducing, Brian is clearly intellectual giant compared to him and despite complete lack of formal education, unlike him Brian doesn't kick him self in the mouth but constantly saying incorrect things.

Marc should be sterilized, creatures like him shouldn't be allowed to procreate and pollute the gene pool.

[Withano]

Well you asked what Brian could be done for breaking rules. Hence why I posted about him. You asked about Brian I answered, so don't go in like I'm nitpicking.

Oh yeah, well the original post which you did 'nit pick' apart :hee: was a post which I asked about the language, I see where you went wrong now.

It looks like we agree though? You realise how Marc calling someone a psycho is worth a reprimand? Because its an obvious rule break which could cause offense to viewers, similarly to Brians arguably aggressive behaviour which you also saw tonight.

[Iceman]

Oh yeah, well the original post which you did 'nit pick' apart :hee: was a post which I asked about the language, I see where you went wrong now.

It looks like we agree though? You realise how Marc calling someone a psycho is worth a reprimand? Because its an obvious rule break which could cause offense to viewers, similarly to Brians arguably aggressive behaviour which you also saw tonight.

I didn't go 'wrong' anywhere, I merely answered the question which you asked about not knowing something about BRIAN (just thought I'd put that in capitals as you keep changing the subject to MARC, now BRIAN and MARC are two different housemates, I find a good way to distinguish between them is that one is black and one is white).

I can be sarcastic too.

[Withano]

I didn't go 'wrong' anywhere, I merely answered the question which you asked about not knowing something about BRIAN (just thought I'd put that in capitals as you keep changing the subject to MARC, now BRIAN and MARC are two different housemates, I find a good way to distinguish between them is that one is black and one is white).

I can be sarcastic too.

And I only pointed out that if you saw fault in Brian then you must have seen fault in Marc, otherwise you would have watched the show with some sort of bias or rose-tinted glasses..

Marcs offence was clear, in writing, he called a man a psycho, could have cause offence to the viewers and should have been reprimanded.
Brians offence of being too aggressive is only arguable. If you saw fault in Brian you must have seen fault in Marc.

Can't be bothered to capitalise what I feel like you're struggling with because I'm over talking about this with you. If your saw fault in Brian and not Marc then your watching the show as a biased viewer and a biased opinion means so little to me.

[Iceman]

:wavey:

[Chilltown]

He didn't get a warning, it was a reprimand. Had it been a warning I'd have disagreed cause he definitely wasn't as bad as Helen but I think a reprimanding was fair enough

Yeah, they never officially warned him in the DR.

[Colbert-Bump]

No.

[BB4fan]

I don't think so. He was being truthful with Brian and AGAIN Brian flew into a rage when they were just having a discussion.

Exactly and not only did he throw his hideous temper around at Helen but he also kept doing it to Marc who was just trying to be civil with the git.

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

I don't think he deserved one tonight but has done in the passed

[Ellen]

Yes it was right BB pulled him up on his behaviour, they should have done before now as well.

[jaxie]

I believe he did, yes. Marc is enabling Helen and the two of them are not pretty to watch. I like Brian but seems clear to me he has a pretty low IQ and goading and picking on him as they have been doing is reprehensible. He was clearly struggling to cope while trying to stand up to them. It was like watching some sort of vile bear bating by two vicious dogs. If someone treated me the way they have Brian I'd be pretty angry too.

[jaxie]

Exactly and not only did he throw his hideous temper around at Helen but he also kept doing it to Marc who was just trying to be civil with the git.
Brian, like the rest of us, is entitled to have a temper and to loose it when provoked. Marc wasn't in any way civil, he was doing what most bullies gangs do, backing the vile leader.

Any defence of Helen's behaviour is frankly delusional and its quite scary to think that there are people on here who would condone that.

[rubymoo]

He didn't deserve a warning tonight imo, but he has deserved warnings in the past for his behaviour, it makes a mockery of the warning system.

[Kizzy]

He deserved it for instigating yet another row the question was about nikki nothing to do with brian ...he goaded him intentionally.

[chuff me dizzy]

What a pathetic warning, I've never seen anything so stupid

[uniquedude]

He deserved a different warning before Helen even entered the house but the Brian and Helen thing really has nothing to do with him.

[Griffin5779]

NO...Peoples views are sooo twisted..

For those saying yes..please provide specific examples from last night to back up your point..

C5 is just covering there ass in case Brian takes actions

[BB4fan]

Brian, like the rest of us, is entitled to have a temper and to loose it when provoked. Marc wasn't in any way civil, he was doing what most bullies gangs do, backing the vile leader.

Any defence of Helen's behaviour is frankly delusional and its quite scary to think that there are people on here who would condone that.

It's disgusting to defend a bad tempered man with a violent temper.