Who has Helen bullied?

[SoFarSoGood282]

I have watched every night but I never seen her bully anyone?

She has a sharp tongue and no I'm not a Helen fan but who exactly has she bullied??
:shrug::shrug:

[Nancy.]

Everyone and their cat, apparently. :sleep:

[Amy Jade]

Jale
Christopher
Brian

[lewis111]

Brian, Christopher, Matthew and Jale

[Vicky.]

I don't think she has bullied anyone (this year) but she has been really nasty at times.

[Denver]

Jale
Christopher
Brian

Who has Nikki bullied?

Shabaz
Dawn
Sam

[Jake.]

Jale, Christopher/Matthew (to an extent) and Brian

[Kazanne]

I have watched every night but I never seen her bully anyone?

She has a sharp tongue and no I'm not a Helen fan but who exactly has she bullied??
:shrug::shrug:

she's bullied no one,people use that tag on anyone who goes against their faves.

[lewis111]

Everyone and their cat, apparently. :sleep:

Do you belive she has bullied no one through out her two times in the house?

[reece(:]

Who has Nikki bullied?

Shabaz
Dawn
Sam
This isn't a thread about Nikki's alleged bullying (:joker:)

OT: Brian, Christopher, Jale.

[Jason.]

Christopher and Jale.

[Nancy.]

Do you belive she has bullied no one through out her two times in the house?

I didn't watch last years, so I can only go on this one....but no, I don't think she has.

[Kazanne]

This isn't a thread about Nikki's alleged bullying (:joker:)

OT: Brian, Christopher, Jale.

nevertheless it's the truth about Nikki

[LukeB]

Brian,Jale and Cristopher

even tho matthew started the argument Helen was bang out of order outing someone's sexuality.I don't know how he felt but if someone did that to me I would actually be sad and annoyed because I want people to find out from me and me only.

[Jack_]

Brian and only Brian. And that was one too many.

[SoFarSoGood282]

Brian and only Brian. And that was one too many.

How and when did she bully Brian??

[EspeonBB]

She undeniably bullied Brian, Christopher and Jale. Maybe add Ashleigh, Danielle and Matthew to that list.

[ThriceShy]

I have watched every night but I never seen her bully anyone?

She has a sharp tongue and no I'm not a Helen fan but who exactly has she bullied??
:shrug::shrug:


Half of bolton, by all accounts.:laugh:

She is vile. Anyone who dare not lick her arse gets bullied

[Amy Jade]

she's bullied no one,people use that tag on anyone who goes against their faves.

That's untrue. I called Helen a bully last year when I liked her, her threatment of Jale was bullying and Helen pretty much admitted it.

Just because some people excuse their faves behaviour doesn't mean everyone does.

[LukeB]

That's untrue. I called Helen a bully last year when I liked her, her threatment of Jale was bullying and Helen pretty much admitted it.

Just because some people excuse their faves behaviour doesn't mean everyone does.

:clap1:

[lewis111]

How and when did she bully Brian??

By saying he looks like a murderer and rapist, calling him a psycho and intimidating him?

[TheElusiveChanteuse]

Jale and Christopher. She has intimidated countless HMs which to a lot of people is the same as bullying.

[Jason.]

Brian,Jale and Cristopher

even tho matthew started the argument Helen was bang out of order outing someone's sexuality.I don't know how he felt but if someone did that to me I would actually be sad and annoyed because I want people to find out from me and me only.

Helen was bang out of order for retaliating after someone claimed they had caught an STD from her, because they shared a toilet seat with her and had to go doctors to get checked out?

I know you hate Helen, as do I. But she can never win in your eyes, can she?

Matthew and Toya were wrong in that argument. Every action has a reaction. The way I see it, Matthew said something extremely nasty and disrespectful, and Helen didn't even say anything to begin with, and then Helen retaliated.

Whether she outed him or not. That doesn't make her worse.

Matthew said something personal about her, and she retaliated.
Don't dish it, if you can't take it is what I say.

Both as bad as each other if anything.

[Jake.]

How and when did she bully Brian??

Last night when he was clearly on the verge of tears and, fully well knowing what she was doing, she was humiliating him and trying to embarrass him in a room full of people. What she referred to him as wasn't even the worst of her actions. She was getting enjoyment out of making somebody feel uncomfortable.

[LukeB]

Helen was bang out of order for retaliating after someone claimed they had caught an STD from her, because they shared a toilet seat with her and had to go doctors to get checked out?

I know you hate Helen, as do I. But she can never win in your eyes, can she?

Matthew and Toya were wrong in that argument. Every action has a reaction. The way I see it, Matthew said something extremely nasty and disrespectful, and Helen didn't even say anything to begin with, and then Helen retaliated.

Whether she outed him or not. That doesn't make her worse.

Doesn't give her the right to bring sexuality into it. I didn't even say matthew and toya wasn't in the wrong either.

[Kazanne]

By saying he looks like a murderer and rapist, calling him a psycho and intimidating him?

That's not bullying,it's name calling

[Jason.]

Doesn't give her the right to bring sexuality into it. I didn't even say matthew and toya wasn't in the wrong either.

Didn't give him the right to bring her past life into it.

[LukeB]

That's not bullying,it's name calling

name calling is bullying tbh.

[LukeB]

Didn't give him the right to bring her past life into it.

I didn't say it did:joker:

[Daniel.]

Brian, Jale, Christoher, Daniell, Ashleigh and Chris

[Jason.]

I didn't say it did:joker:

You said Helen was bang out of order. As if she was in the wrong.
If you don't want your posts to be misconstrued, at least don't be one sided.

[fitz2k2]

people think Helen is a bully on this forum lmaooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[Jason.]

She was quite nasty to Harry, too.

[jessicadanielle]

name calling is bullying tbh.

Agreed, particularly when it's so persistent, so outrageous, and intentionally being used to kick him while he was down (she could see he was getting more and more distressed).

[BB4fan]

She's bullied nobody. They all have big mouths.

[lewis111]

That's not bullying,it's name calling

What does she have to do then, be violent? Verbal bullying is a thing and that's a perfect example of it.

[Jason.]

I don't think she bullied Ashleigh.
They both bitched about each other. And I don't remember her saying anything outrageously nasty about her.

Danielle, could be seen as bullying. Calling her a fat bitch.
Matthew spent weeks bitching about her anyway. So they were both bad there.

[lewis111]

Bullying is a strong word which shouldn't just be thrown around. Helen did not bully Nikki but she clearly did bully Brian and a few last year. How are people not seeing this? Wether you like her or not surely you can see she's a bully

[Denver]

Somebody being bullied doesn't give as good as they get so Brian and Mathew can be ruled of that list

[LukeB]

You said Helen was bang out of order. As if she was in the wrong.
If you don't want your posts to be misconstrued, at least don't be one sided.

just because i said helen was bang out of order doesn't mean I don't think that about matthew. I didn't say Matthew came out better or anything. I just think outing someone's sexuality is vile and I do think what he said is vile too(I hate matthew). Maybe I should have mentioned Matthew's comment.

[Jake.]

Bullying is a strong word which shouldn't just be thrown around. Helen did not bully Nikki but she clearly did bully Brian and a few last year. How are people not seeing this? Wether you like her or not surely you can see she's a bully

but none of that matters because REDEMPTION!!!!!

[lewis111]

I don't think she bullied Ashleigh.
They both bitched about each other. And I don't remember her saying anything outrageously nasty about her.

Danielle, could be seen as bullying. Calling her a fat bitch.
Matthew spent weeks bitching about her anyway. So they were both bad there.

I agree, can't just call everyone she's said stuff too as a bully victim. But she has bullied others

[Jason.]

Helen IMO has bullied:

Jale
Christopher
Danielle
Chris
Brian

[Jack_]

How and when did she bully Brian??

When he was sat on the sofa visibly shaking and on the brink of tears, saying absolutely nothing and she deliberately antagonised him (and admitted she was doing so) and then smirked at and got enjoyment out of his weakness

I have always said she has never bullied anyone but that was out and out bullying. Fact

[zakman440]

Jale
Christopher
Brian

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[armand.kay]

Who has Nikki bullied?

Shabaz
Dawn
Sam

There is a difference between being bitchy and being a bully

[aman201]

lol I totally forgot about SLUGSWORTH.

[SoFarSoGood282]

When he was sat on the sofa visibly shaking and on the brink of tears, saying absolutely nothing and she deliberately antagonised him (and admitted she was doing so) and then smirked at and got enjoyment out of his weakness

I have always said she has never bullied anyone but that was out and out bullying. Fact

I must have been watching a different show because I seen him start on her first.........as with every row they have had he is the one that starts it. All I ever seen her do is defend herself.

I didn't like her rapist/murderer but if someone was making it his mission to confront me every night I would blurt out everything that came into my head too!! :shrug::shrug:
Brian bought a lot of it on himself!!

[Kazanne]

She was quite nasty to Harry, too.

So was nikki,and it was Helen who spoke to harry

[Miss Nicole]

Being a bully is singling someone out from a crowd and constantly having digs at them making them feel stupid and laughing at them, whilst making friends with the people close to them and telling those people what a psycho their friend is,isolating a person .Then provoking them by getting personal with awful comments into behaving angrily so then you can say there you go I told you he was a psycho.

[LukeB]

So was nikki,and it was Helen who spoke to harry

Nikki spoke to Harry before Helen,

[cassieparis]

"You look like a rapist and murderer" repeated several times to intimidate. Feels like bullying to me.

[rusticgal]

I have watched every night but I never seen her bully anyone?

She has a sharp tongue and no I'm not a Helen fan but who exactly has she bullied??
:shrug::shrug:

One word...SPECSAVERS!!

[Jack_]

I must have been watching a different show because I seen him start on her first.........as with every row they have had he is the one that starts it. All I ever seen her do is defend herself.

I didn't like her rapist/murderer but if someone was making it his mission to confront me every night I would blurt out everything that came into my head too!! :shrug::shrug:
Brian bought a lot of it on himself!!

It doesn't matter whether he brought it on or started it or not. If someone, and this goes for anyone, is sitting shaking, about to cry and is visibly uncomfortable and saying NOTHING, and you continue to mock them and antagonise them, you are bullying them. Had Brian been shouting back at that particular moment, it would have been an equally weighted confrontation where someone stood up for themselves. But in that one particular instance he wasn't, and if you're going at someone who isn't standing up for themselves (especially when they're clearly showing signs of weakness) you are bullying them.

What part of this some people are failing to understand is beyond me. Who started what is irrelevant.

[Miss Nicole]

It's not just nasty comments , what Helen did to Jale was the same she isolated her from the group and then got the whole group to laugh and ridicule the poor girl.
Helen is really nice to some people and uses a common enemy type approach to gang up on an individual, this time though it hasn't been so successful because the originals had an alliance of sorts already of which Danny seems to be the leader and he won't get on board and has told her he doesn't agree with how she behaves.So she is losing her power and control which is why I guess she got upset/angry.

[jegmeister]

I am lost for words with this thread.

[Robertocarlo]

I have watched every night but I never seen her bully anyone?

She has a sharp tongue and no I'm not a Helen fan but who exactly has she bullied??
:shrug::shrug:

I totally agree with you but confess to liking Helen. Who has she bullied? Nobody as far as I can see as well. Brian and Nikki are somehow obsessed and eaten up by their hatred of her and Marc. So if they say Helen and Marc are bullies then everyone seems to believe them I don't and many other don't either it seems.

[rionablue]

I have never up to now used the word bully in these forums and have said on many threads that it is used far too often for non bullying incidents often to demote someones least favourite housemate and promote their favourite.

Helen didn't physically bully Brian but she DID verbally BULLY him by saying those hateful things about how he looked. I was verbally bullied at work and had to leave last year and it was all very sly and sneaky but hurt me more than anything ever did. I was physically bullied when I was little but thank God I became strong because of it.

Even if I hated Brian I would know that what Helen said and did to him was totally wrong. Yes it was verbal bullying no doubt about it and Brian couldn't take it anymore. Helen up to now wasn't a bully in my eyes even though I really didn't like her last year. She DID verbally bully Brian

[JayBlaze]

Imagine how much **** Helens son has to put up with at school about his mother being a prostitute

[Glenn.]

That's her look out, not ours.

[Jason.]

That's her look out, not ours.

She cyber-bullied you on Twitter.
Here for you having the balls to verbally baptize her.

:clap1:

[Ramsay]

It was blatant bullying, i actually can't believe there are people on here defending her. seriously?

[Jack_]

It was blatant bullying, i actually can't believe there are people on here defending her. seriously?

I think it's disgusting quite frankly. I'm ashamed to be a part of a fan base of a show that can support such behaviour

[Macie Lightfoot]

Even aside from calling Brian a rapist and a murderer Helen has always been a huge bully. Her entire MO is excluding others, hurling out vicious insults, and public humiliation all under the guise of "telling it how it is" and "being honest" and when people naturally get upset with her she just blames it on them taking everything too personally.

[BB4fan]

Nikki spoke to Harry before Helen,

Nikki wasn't above slagging off Jack and Harry in the room with Helen before they went into the main house. She said some pretty nasty things about a dew HM's in that room along with Helen.

She also bullied Jack by tricking him with the twitter thing and found it funny. Nikki's quite a cow when she wants to be and she bullied Susie in BB7 too with her "who is sheeeeee", rubbish.

[Ammi]

..I wonder if someone spoke to Helen's child or someone she cared for a lot/another member of her family etc with the 'honesty and truth' that she speaks to people and her thoughtless cruel way she throws around things like 'murderer/rapist look'...etc...would she actually realise there are boundaries that go beyond anything acceptable...and then when she does it, those people...ughhh, they're just wimps aren't they for being upset or 'false and playing a victim' or aggressive if it provokes anger...would she actually reflect upon herself in her behaviour...


...hmmm, sadly I don't actually think so because she's being so promoted and hailed by the public and BB also for being a 'queen of making people feel miserable and unhappy..'...I have no idea how mean spirited spiteful people became 'legends'...this is not a movie/movie characters..these are real people that she hurts...

[Miss Nicole]

I think it's disgusting quite frankly. I'm ashamed to be a part of a fan base of a show that can support such behaviour

Ditto.

[VanessaFeltz.]

Jale Christopher Brian. She also did other disgusting things by outing Matthew etc.

She insulted Nikki by her weight today again. Given Nikki's history that is very disgusting thing to say.

New trend is this huh lets pity disgusting vile pig who makes other people unconfortable because she is a human being. Yeah right..

[VanessaFeltz.]

Jale Christopher Brian. She also did other disgusting things by outing Matthew etc.

She insulted Nikki by her weight today again. Given Nikki's history that is very disgusting thing to say.

New trend is this huh lets pity disgusting vile pig who makes other people unconfortable because she is a human being. Yeah right..

[DemolitionRed]

There is a difference between being bitchy and being a bully

You're right, bitching doesn't have to be bullying, though it can be.

The thing about bullying is, it can happen in so many different ways and so is often hard to identify. Take a group of people like the BB HM's and observe their reaction to a single person. If a large percentage of that group appear to be intimidated by one individual, then the chances are, that individual is a bully. Chloe (who is clearly terrified of her), Nikki, Sam, Jack and Harry are intimidated by Helen...I don't think Brian was but he could see how she was unnerving other members in the house and that really upset him. Brian is a sensitive soul towards others but I don't for a moment feel he was being bullied...he was just emotionally frustrated.

Helen uses indirect bullying tactics by creating a power imbalance in the house. From the moment she entered the house she put herself in a position of power by openly belittling Harry and deliberately leaving her out. She had already teamed up with Marc who is very similar to herself and between the two of them they continued to treat certain people in a negative passive aggressive way. Both Marc and Helen have continually tag-team recruits by suggesting to other HM's (who feel intimidated by her) not to be friends with certain people.

That would be seen by any psychiatrist/psychologist as a form of bullying.

[JeanP!]

Who has Nikki bullied?

Shabaz
Dawn
Sam

Susie

[Jake.]

I think it's disgusting quite frankly. I'm ashamed to be a part of a fan base of a show that can support such behaviour

Even aside from calling Brian a rapist and a murderer Helen has always been a huge bully. Her entire MO is excluding others, hurling out vicious insults, and public humiliation all under the guise of "telling it how it is" and "being honest" and when people naturally get upset with her she just blames it on them taking everything too personally.

Couldn't agree more

[camertone]

tbh, helen bullied no one, helen was just giving back the hate she was getting.
if you poke a cat, you'll get scratched, deal with it.

[Griffin5779]

name calling is bullying tbh.

so Brian referring to Marc and Helen as Vile..scum..lowlife..pond scum..prostitute..

bullying? yes or no? and why?

[lewis111]

Helen making comments it not all she has done. She obliousoy isolated Jale last year, and tried with Brian last year but failed. She is a bully, it's not an option anymore, it's clearly a fact that Helen has bullied people therefor making her a bully. The depth some fans will go to defend her is ridiculous, all your doing is stating times she hasn't bullied people.
Like saying she didnt bully nicki. Corrrect, but that dosent mean she's not a Bully. And if you didn't watch last year then by no means can you say she's not a bully. Her actions are disgusting, and the fact people defend her after all this is just idk even know. Is she entertaining? To some yes, but it dosent matter she's rattled too many people, vile woman.

[Ross.]

I think it's disgusting quite frankly. I'm ashamed to be a part of a fan base of a show that can support such behaviour

Even aside from calling Brian a rapist and a murderer Helen has always been a huge bully. Her entire MO is excluding others, hurling out vicious insults, and public humiliation all under the guise of "telling it how it is" and "being honest" and when people naturally get upset with her she just blames it on them taking everything too personally.

:clap1:

I don't understand how anyone could defend her actions.

[lewis111]

:clap1:

I don't understand how anyone could defend her actions.

Surely it's just to cause a reaction, it's clear she's in the wrong

[Griffin5779]

I hated helen last year..and i don't see her as an angel this year...But anyone would days she bullied Brian is nuts..

Brian has worked to bitch about, insult and isolate both Helen and Marc since the Chloe argument. He was endless stiring up hostility against the 2.

I'm not say he was successful in bullying them..they aren't the type to be bullied..but i challenge you to supply examples of marc and oe helen carring out a campaign to vilify or isolate brain

[Ross.]

Surely it's just to cause a reaction, it's clear she's in the wrong

Probably, but like Macie said then she hides behind this thing of 'you're taking it too personally' when people get naturally upset with what she has said.

[Mackins]

Don't be so naive. That drama queen Brian constantly attacked her and Marc, they never attacked him. He knew exactly what he was doing, acting all nice to them in the bunker and as soon as he got out, he started his game plan to turn the house against them and make himself look like some kind of white knight.

Some people are so blind to reality, Helen does get nasty yes, but it's a self defence mechanism, when she is attacked, she retaliates much stronger to quell her attacker.

Brian really is a pitiful excuse of a man, so fake and this dumb act he does is embarrassing.

[Miss Nicole]

Don't be so naive. That drama queen Brian constantly attacked her and Marc, they never attacked him. He knew exactly what he was doing, acting all nice to them in the bunker and as soon as he got out, he started his game plan to turn the house against them and make himself look like some kind of white knight.

Some people are so blind to reality, Helen does get nasty yes, but it's a self defence mechanism, when she is attacked, she retaliates much stronger to quell her attacker.

Brian really is a pitiful excuse of a man, so fake and this dumb act he does is embarrassing.

So give me examples of how Jale attacked Helen last year? Because Helen hated her every time she saw her she said something awful, walking past some one and calling then a slug ? Jale wasn't screaming at her then, she isolated her and made her the brunt of all her jokes.
Also Helen is an adult who you seem to think has no control over her actions or what comes out of her mouth she just reacts defensively to her environment, I think that is rather disrespectful because you are putting her under the category of wild animal.
What separates us from animals is the fact we have the ability to consider situations and choose what action to take rather than a primal reaction, Helen chooses to be who she is she knows what to say to wind people up and to say the most degrading thing possible to verbally hit someone where it hurts.
If you think Brian is a pitiful excuse of a man how should he have reacted to her to make him seem more of a man?

[Mackins]

So give me examples of how Jale attacked Helen last year? Because Helen hated her every time she saw her she said something awful, walking past some one and calling then a slug ? Jale wasn't screaming at her then, she isolated her and made her the brunt of all her jokes.
Also Helen is an adult who you seem to think has no control over her actions or what comes out of her mouth she just reacts defensively to her environment, I think that is rather disrespectful because you are putting her under the category of wild animal.
What separates us from animals is the fact we have the ability to consider situations and choose what action to take rather than a primal reaction, Helen chooses to be who she is she knows what to say to wind people up and to say the most degrading thing possible to verbally hit someone where it hurts.
If you think Brian is a pitiful excuse of a man how should he have reacted to her to make him seem more of a man?

I think you need to come back to reality, you don't really understand human emotions do you? People who get attacked can't always control their emotions, we're not robots.

[JTM45]

But Jale did nothing to Helen so what's that got to do with Helen getting attacked and not being able to control her emotions ?
She was rather vile to Harry when she came into the house this year just because she was going along with Mark's dislike of her (which he has since admitted he was wrong about).

Helen's a self-obsessed and nasty, nasty person!

[JamesBond]

It doesn't matter whether he brought it on or started it or not. If someone, and this goes for anyone, is sitting shaking, about to cry and is visibly uncomfortable and saying NOTHING, and you continue to mock them and antagonise them, you are bullying them. Had Brian been shouting back at that particular moment, it would have been an equally weighted confrontation where someone stood up for themselves. But in that one particular instance he wasn't, and if you're going at someone who isn't standing up for themselves (especially when they're clearly showing signs of weakness) you are bullying them.

What part of this some people are failing to understand is beyond me. Who started what is irrelevant.

I call bull****!

Brian stepped up at every opportunity and finally Helen stood her ground and was like fine you asked for it. He cant **** himself once she stands up to him and expect her to be like oh wait he stopped so I'll have to wait until he comes at me again.

She used the wrong words, but that aggressive prick asked for it and then tried to play the victim.

[JTM45]

I call bull****!

Brian stepped up at every opportunity and finally Helen stood her ground and was like fine you asked for it.

Laugh..........i nearly split my side!:laugh3:

Poor Helen, keeping herself to herself, finally reaches breaking point......

Fan fiction at its most inventive!!!!:laugh:

[JamesBond]

Laugh..........i nearly split my side!:laugh3:

Poor Helen, keeping herself to herself, finally reaches breaking point......

Fan fiction at its most inventive!!!!:laugh:

You can add Brian being viewed as the victim to that.