Why was Helen being so negative towards Aisleyne?

[Ashley.]

Aisleyne was doing her own thing, apart from the "basic bitch" comment, she told Helen that she wanted to just have a positive stay in the house and was nice to her in the bedroom; why did Helen start getting defensive for no reason when Aisleyne hadn't done anything wrong except from flirt with Marc? Not once did she instigate an argument, Helen did all that by herself.

I'm going to have to be pro-Aisleyne on this one.

[Amy Jade]

Helen hates anyone who she knows can take her on basically and it's likely she's jealous Ais is still so popular 9 years after she was on BB wheras Helen is nothing more than last years winner and lets face it, if viewership was as high as it was in BB7 and Helen hadn't got a free pass she'd be a week 3 evictee

[Josy]

Aisleyne started it with the rehearsed basic bitch comment, you just mentioned that in your own post? I swear people cannot see what's actually happening on the screen because they are too wrapped up in their own dislike of the hm's involved...

[Amy Jade]

Aisleyne started it with the rehearsed basic bitch comment, you just mentioned that in your own post? I swear people cannot see what's actually happening on the screen because they are too wrapped up in their own dislike of the hm's involved...

Yep or like people downplaying Helen calling Brian a rapist and murderer because they like Marc and Helen ;)

[Ashley.]

Aisleyne started it with the rehearsed basic bitch comment, you just mentioned that in your own post? I swear people cannot see what's actually happening on the screen because they are too wrapped up in their own dislike of the hm's involved...

That's quite a rude thing to say. I don't even dislike Helen, that's why I said at the end of my post that I was going to have to support Aisleyne in this argument. Aisleyne was trying to clear the air and have a good time in the house, but Helen threw it back in her face and then got upset when Nikki did the same to her. I don't think there was any point to Helen starting an argument.

Like I said, I don't dislike Helen or Aisleyne; so your comment doesn't really stand. If you look at my signature, you'll actually see that Helen was my favourite from BB15.

[Kazanne]

Aisleyne started it with the rehearsed basic bitch comment, you just mentioned that in your own post? I swear people cannot see what's actually happening on the screen because they are too wrapped up in their own dislike of the hm's involved...

Yes that's what was on my TV,Ashleine saying she didn't want negativity,she obviously did.

[Josy]

Yep or like people downplaying Helen calling Brian a rapist and murderer because they like Marc and Helen ;)

Does this actually have a point in regards to me? you quoted my post?

I don't like Helen only Marc, I certainly never once downplayed the comments made to Brian from Helen, although again that's nothing to do with Marc which takes me back to the point I made above, so anyway yeah you may be getting yourself mixed up a bit there.

[bots]

Aisleyne was so rehearsed it was cringey. When she had to ad lib she had nothing to offer. No wonder Helen and Nikki are coming out tonight.

[Josy]

That's quite a rude thing to say. I don't even dislike Helen, that's why I said at the end of my post that I was going to have to support Aisleyne in this argument. Aisleyne was trying to clear the air and have a good time in the house, but Helen threw it back in her face and then got upset when Nikki did the same to her. I don't think there was any point to Helen starting an argument.

Like I said, I don't dislike Helen or Aisleyne; so your comment doesn't really stand. If you look at my signature, you'll actually see that Helen was my favourite from BB15.

It was quite odd of you to say Aisleyne had started it in your OP then go on to blame Helen?

If you know Aisleyne started it then why say Helen was the one being negative towards her, I don't get it?

[rionablue]

Helen hates anyone who she knows can take her on basically and it's likely she's jealous Ais is still so popular 9 years after she was on BB wheras Helen is nothing more than last years winner and lets face it, if viewership was as high as it was in BB7 and Helen hadn't got a free pass she'd be a week 3 evictee

TOTALLY Preach it Amy Jade :wavey:

[Ashley.]

It was quite odd of you to say Aisleyne had started it in your OP then go on to blame Helen?

If you know Aisleyne started it then why say Helen was the one being negative towards her, I don't get it?

I said apart from the basic bitch comment. Yes it was probably rehearsed and she just wanted to return with a bang, but after that, and having a little bit of time to think about it, she sat with Helen and was actually attempting to hold a decent, adult conversation with her, telling her that she wants no bad blood and even told Sam that she didn't hate Helen. I think Helen went off the rails simply because she needed to vent her anger, not because she was mad at Aisleyne. She had no reason to get so angry as Aisleyne was trying to calm the situation between them. The least she could've done was try to understand and take in what Aisleyne was telling her, rather than interrupting her.

[Amy Jade]

Does this actually have a point in regards to me? you quoted my post?

I don't like Helen only Marc, I certainly never once downplayed the comments made to Brian from Helen, although again that's nothing to do with Marc which takes me back to the point I made above, so anyway yeah you may be getting yourself mixed up a bit there.
Nahh sorry I didn't mean you personally I was saying some downplayed it because they like Helen and Marc so the bias swings both ways in the argument really.

[JeanP!]

WTF???? Aisleyne started it by saying the ''basic rations for basic bitches'' comment

[Amy Jade]

WTF???? Aisleyne started it by saying the ''basic reactions for basic bitches'' comment

The truth hurts.

[Ashley.]

WTF???? Aisleyne started it by saying the ''basic reactions for basic bitches'' comment

Was that necessary? Please refer to the above post that I made in reply to Josy instead of jumping the gun.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Or maybe Helen started it with her general conduct?

[sarah2020]

:clap1:Aisleyne started it with the rehearsed basic bitch comment, you just mentioned that in your own post? I swear people cannot see what's actually happening on the screen because they are too wrapped up in their own dislike of the hm's involved...

[sarah2020]

There is past bad blood between them from before, something about Helen posting up a video of Ashleyne. Dont know the full story. So they hated one another already and the classic bitch started it all off again i guess.

[bots]

There is past bad blood between them from before, something about Helen posting up a video of Ashleyne. Dont know the full story. So they hated one another already and the classic bitch started it all off again i guess.

She videoed Aisleyne saying to Chloe Goodman that she wanted to be sick on her face ... and people think Aisleyne is a nice person :shrug:

[Ellen]

Aisleyne started it with the rehearsed basic bitch comment, you just mentioned that in your own post? I swear people cannot see what's actually happening on the screen because they are too wrapped up in their own dislike of the hm's involved...

This ^^^
No good saying you want to be positive when you have just come in and been a bitch.

[Angelika]

Both need vying for alpha female in the pack.

[rionablue]

Helen hates anyone who she knows can take her on basically and it's likely she's jealous Ais is still so popular 9 years after she was on BB wheras Helen is nothing more than last years winner and lets face it, if viewership was as high as it was in BB7 and Helen hadn't got a free pass she'd be a week 3 evictee

You took the words out of my mouth Amy Jade. Second time today. Must be sisters from different mothers lol

[Nancy.]

Aisleyne started it with the rehearsed basic bitch comment, you just mentioned that in your own post? I swear people cannot see what's actually happening on the screen because they are too wrapped up in their own dislike of the hm's involved...

:clap1:

[Patricia4]

Aisleyne started it with the rehearsed basic bitch comment, you just mentioned that in your own post? I swear people cannot see what's actually happening on the screen because they are too wrapped up in their own dislike of the hm's involved...

I agree Josy

[joeysteele]

Aisleyne started it with the rehearsed basic bitch comment, you just mentioned that in your own post? I swear people cannot see what's actually happening on the screen because they are too wrapped up in their own dislike of the hm's involved...

Aisleyne did and not only the basic bitch comment, the spawn of Satan comment as well,and then throwing the basic food box on the floor in front of Helen rather than giving her it, as she did to everyone else.

People see only what they want to see sadly.

[LukeB]

Aisleyne was doing her own thing, apart from the "basic bitch" comment, she told Helen that she wanted to just have a positive stay in the house and was nice to her in the bedroom; why did Helen start getting defensive for no reason when Aisleyne hadn't done anything wrong except from flirt with Marc? Not once did she instigate an argument, Helen did all that by herself.

I'm going to have to be pro-Aisleyne on this one.

the basic rations for a basic bitch comment but the truth hurts I guess

[jet]

Aisleyne did and not only the basic bitch comment, the spawn of Satan comment as well,and then throwing the basic food box on the floor in front of Helen rather than giving her it, as she did to everyone else.

People see only what they want to see sadly.

And people still admire and like someone who calls others paedophiles, rapists and murderers - sadly.

[nonstop]

Why does Helen be negative towards anyone?

[EspeonBB]

Helen is just a negative person. Especially when it comes to superior females, we saw it with Ashleigh last year and we're seeing it again with Nikki and Aisleyne

[y.winter]

Why does Helen be negative towards anyone?

.

[BB4fan]

Aisylene deliberately provoked Helen by checking a present her way, then called her a basic bitch.

She knew what she was doing, so let's not pretend the cow wasn't looking to wind her up. She's fooling no one.

[Griffin5779]

Aisleyne was doing her own thing, apart from the "basic bitch" comment, she told Helen that she wanted to just have a positive stay in the house and was nice to her in the bedroom; why did Helen start getting defensive for no reason when Aisleyne hadn't done anything wrong except from flirt with Marc? Not once did she instigate an argument, Helen did all that by herself.

I'm going to have to be pro-Aisleyne on this one.

are you serious? she called her a bitch and is talking about being a vile bully and you want to know why helen is negative? did you ask why brian was so negative towards marc and helen?

[jet]

Helen is just a negative person. Especially when it comes to superior females, we saw it with Ashleigh last year and we're seeing it again with Nikki and Aisleyne

She feels threatened by other women - especially those who are more intelligent than she is. Lets face it, Helen is pretty thick...
She always gets on better with the male of the species...

[Ashley.]

Aisleyne did and not only the basic bitch comment, the spawn of Satan comment as well,and then throwing the basic food box on the floor in front of Helen rather than giving her it, as she did to everyone else.

People see only what they want to see sadly.

Can you please not make accusations towards me? I'm a fan of both Aisleyne and Helen so I'm not being one-sided at all.

[Ashley.]

Helen is just a negative person. Especially when it comes to superior females, we saw it with Ashleigh last year and we're seeing it again with Nikki and Aisleyne

I don't think she's threatened by Nikki; Nikki was just an easy target for her.

[Ashley.]

are you serious? she called her a bitch and is talking about being a vile bully and you want to know why helen is negative? did you ask why brian was so negative towards marc and helen?

I think Brian was just on a bit of a rollercoaster ride; he was overwhelmed to be there, but unlike Big Brother 8 he's no longer a big character in the house as there are now characters bigger than him, and that made him feel threatened.

[Glenn.]

Aisleyne started it but let's face it, Helen would have eventually regardless of Aisleyne scalping her with the present. She's incapable of keeping her mouth shut.

[Griffin5779]

I think Brian was just on a bit of a rollercoaster ride; he was overwhelmed to be there, but unlike Big Brother 8 he's no longer a big character in the house as there are now characters bigger than him, and that made him feel threatened.

well i agree he was a bitter nasty jealous prick...frankly asleyne with her rehearsed play acting and immediate attack on helen make me think the same of her..as well as her interview with emma before going in..it quiet clear she isn't there to be positive but tear down helen..and i don't even like helen

[joeysteele]

Can you please not make accusations towards me? I'm a fan of both Aisleyne and Helen so I'm not being one-sided at all.

Excuse me, is your name in my post, I responded to a post Josy made.
My post also says 'people', not 'person'.

You may have highlighted one incident but you are by no means alone in not pointing out the other things she did in her first 3 minutes on the programme, that I and Josy pointed out.

Many apologies however if you felt and got the impression I was only making a comment as to yourself.
If that is how it came across it was done inadvertently.

[Nancy.]

Helen is just a negative person. Especially when it comes to superior females, we saw it with Ashleigh last year and we're seeing it again with Nikki and Aisleyne

Aisleyne a superior female. http://forums.madonnanation.com/public/style_emoticons/default/smileylool.gif

[ItWasJustBanter]

Helen's a boss ass bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch.

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[Ashley.]

Excuse me, is your name in my post, I responded to a post Josy made.
My post also says 'people', not 'person'.

You may have highlighted one incident but you are by no means alone in not pointing out the other things she did in her first 3 minutes on the programme, that I and Josy pointed out.

Many apologies however if you felt and got the impression I was only making a comment as to yourself.
If that is how it came across it was done inadvertently.

Ah, sorry for the confusion. I hate being put into the "Helen hater" category just because I stuck up for Aisleyne on one occasion. I jumped the gun with you a little, so it's my bad.

[joeysteele]

And people still admire and like someone who calls others paedophiles, rapists and murderers - sadly.

No, jet, and if you read my posts you will find I condemned strongly Helen for those comments,I also said not only did she warrant the warning totally but had I anything to do with it, I would have given her the warning myself.
I also said there was no way I could or would even try to defend or justify her comment either.

I also have to sadly correct you, she called no one a paedophile or inferred anyone was like one.
You can point out where she said that if she really did.
I am not infallible, I could have missed such a comment.

[billy123]

Helen and Aisylene are both twats is what it really boils down to.
Trying to defend either of them is like squabbling over the contents of a dustbin.

[joeysteele]

Ah, sorry for the confusion. I hate being put into the "Helen hater" category just because I stuck up for Aisleyne on one occasion. I jumped the gun with you a little, so it's my bad.

No not at all, this is the problem with the written word rather than the spoken word, it does not always come across the way it is intended or would be said in person.

No worries, not your fault at all or any bad interpetration.
Better to jump the gun and get an explanation than not let someone know they may have upset you in some way.
Honestly no worries,I am glad you did.

[JamesBond]

Yep or like people downplaying Helen calling Brian a rapist and murderer because they like Marc and Helen ;)

Helen should have just called him an aggressive pervert and I think that would have been fair.

[Headie]

Charley will appear tonight via Caravan to replace Brian
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[JamesBond]

Aisleyne started it with the rehearsed basic bitch comment, you just mentioned that in your own post? I swear people cannot see what's actually happening on the screen because they are too wrapped up in their own dislike of the hm's involved...

Dude it had to be rehearsed, I don't think she has a reply beyond **** off if she has to think on her feet. Notice how she says im not getting into it as soon as Helen decides to play smart and uses facts.

Btw I just say dude, not calling you one.

[ItWasJustBanter]

Just watch the feedback vid and Helen maintains her dignity while Aisleyne calls her a gobby cow. Shame Hele is leaving.:bawling: