Helen reveals all about Brian.

[BB4fan]

So in this latest article we hear what Helen had to endure. Brian Bello stripping off in front of her.


http://www.dailystar.co.uk/tv/big-brother/450553/helen-wood-big-brother-daily-star-online-column-brian-belo

He is a weirdo and Marc did mention last week in the diary room that Brian did some weird stuff in the Timebomb Bunker.

[Ant.]

It's in the news, it must be true!

[ebandit]

what?.............stripping off in the BB house..............

i'm shocked! but poor 'lil helen who is way more sensitive than myself

Mark L

[jaxie]

Wonder how much she got paid for those thrilling memoirs. Money for old rope.

If Brian got naked they should have showed it, it would have made a nice change from Harry's tits and fanny.

[Chuckyegg]

daily star makes Viz look like the telegraph

[Vicky.]

Skeptical..but if its lies..it can be proven and she/the star would be sued wouldn't they? Not sure if columns and such are the same as 'proper' stories...

[billy123]

Silly girl.
Trying to excuse her own terrible behaviour by blaming others she is so transparent.

[Griffin5779]

well now she has done it..its all on camera..surely brian will have to respond and sue her. helen has dug her own grave

[Josy]

I haven't read that article yet but we did see Brian randomly naked (apart from boxers) in the bunker clucking round them all like a chicken which was pretty weird, I remember making a thread about it at the time.

[ebandit]

who was it in last BB oz that did the frozen chicken impression...........ryan?

Mark L

[BB4fan]

Apparent even Nikki said that his behavior was odd in there.

He lay on the floor in a fetal position with his ass out and said he was a frozen duck.

Helen was scared.

[rionablue]

So in this latest article we hear what Helen had to endure. Brian Bello stripping off in front of her.


http://www.dailystar.co.uk/tv/big-brother/450553/helen-wood-big-brother-daily-star-online-column-brian-belo

He is a weirdo and Marc did mention last week in the diary room that Brian did some weird stuff in the Timebomb Bunker.

Haha still vile horrible bitch then. I don't buy that rag she writes for anyway. I wont be part of lining her pockets.

[VanessaFeltz.]

i want a proof

[BB4fan]

Haha still vile horrible bitch then. I don't buy that rag she writes for anyway. I wont be part of lining her pockets.


She said she wrote this column free of charge. She tweeted it.

[Kazanne]

I haven't read that article yet but we did see Brian randomly naked (apart from boxers) in the bunker clucking round them all like a chicken which was pretty weird, I remember making a thread about it at the time.

Yes,I remember that too and thinking WHAT is he doing? I don't think she's lying tbh,why would she? her job would be on the line,maybe that's why he got so angry with her as she knew those things:shrug:

[billy123]

None of what she claims (and she is a proven liar) excuses her pathetic behaviour.

[BB4fan]

http://s10.postimg.org/k0v7z0m7d/Screenshot_2015_06_28_13_00_56.png

Helen wrote the column free of charge so for those saying she's lining her pockets she isn't.

Not that she shouldn't, I'm sure Nikki's lining hers with every article she can drag her name through.:hehe:

[Shamdamdoobaley]

It's 100% true and the clip is online. It's from day 33 and it's called Marc and Brian plan their attack on the house. At the end of the clip you can see him start to take his clothes off and kneel

[LukeB]

None of what she claims (and she is a proven liar) excuses her pathetic behaviour.

This :clap1:

[Josy]

None of what she claims (and she is a proven liar) excuses her pathetic behaviour.

No it doesn't but it further adds to the point some have been making that Brian isn't the innocent 'hero' he is being portrayed as.

I dislike Helen but Brian was a complete tit in that house, he started and butted into a lot of arguments that were none of his business, throwing in random reasons and lies to make himself look better.

[Pink Pegasus]

I haven't read that article yet but we did see Brian randomly naked (apart from boxers) in the bunker clucking round them all like a chicken which was pretty weird, I remember making a thread about it at the time.

Yes I remember that and Helen looked completely frozen and weirded out. I don't think she is lying because her or her paper would get sued. She and the daily star must be pretty safe in the knowledge that what she's saying and also the stories/comments she's saying were said by Brian are all on tape.

[Tarryn]

If Helen is such a prude & was so offended & threatened by Brian's behaviour then why did she not go to the diary room & ask them to do something ?.
Or better still, if she is such a moral person then & money & fame means nothing to her, then why not leave ?.
Helen is trying every trick in the book to justify her vile behaviour.
BB has given countless warnings this series for such little things, does anyone really think if Brian was behaving in such a strange & threatening way that BB would not have warned him ?.

[Kazanne]

If Helen is such a prude & was so offended & threatened by Brian's behaviour then why did she not go to the diary room & ask them to do something ?.
Or better still, if she is such a moral person then & money & fame means nothing to her, then why not leave ?.
Helen is trying every trick in the book to justify her vile behaviour.
BB has given countless warnings this series for such little things, does anyone really think if Brian was behaving in such a strange & threatening way that BB would not have warned him ?.

Helen is not Nikki,she doesn't run off to the DR telling tales,she didn't even use that against him when they were having a row,it doesn't matter how moral or immoral she is,that doesn't take away the fact Brian is a complete twat and got away with it because it was Helen,anyone else would have been lambasted.

[Vicky.]

If Helen is such a prude & was so offended & threatened by Brian's behaviour then why did she not go to the diary room & ask them to do something ?.
Or better still, if she is such a moral person then & money & fame means nothing to her, then why not leave ?.
Helen is trying every trick in the book to justify her vile behaviour.
BB has given countless warnings this series for such little things, does anyone really think if Brian was behaving in such a strange & threatening way that BB would not have warned him ?.

I don't think (if this is true) that not wanting someone to spread their arsehole infront of you makes you a prude...really

[Jason.]

No it doesn't but it further adds to the point some have been making that Brian isn't the innocent 'hero' he is being portrayed as.

I dislike Helen but Brian was a complete tit in that house, he started and butted into a lot of arguments that were none of his business, throwing in random reasons and lies to make himself look better.

I agree with every single letter. :clap2:

BIB - So so so true. True!

[BB4fan]

If Helen is such a prude & was so offended & threatened by Brian's behaviour then why did she not go to the diary room & ask them to do something ?.
Or better still, if she is such a moral person then & money & fame means nothing to her, then why not leave ?.
Helen is trying every trick in the book to justify her vile behaviour.
BB has given countless warnings this series for such little things, does anyone really think if Brian was behaving in such a strange & threatening way that BB would not have warned him ?.


I believe her and they never warned him for his aggressive temper in the main house. Also if they never showed it on TV then they probably had no need to warn him.

What the viewers can't see can't distress them.

[Nancy.]

I haven't read that article yet but we did see Brian randomly naked (apart from boxers) in the bunker clucking round them all like a chicken which was pretty weird, I remember making a thread about it at the time.

I was just about to mention this.

Why would Helen lie and risk court action when it's all been captured on camera?

Surely, there's some truth in this. We already saw how weird he was behaving in the bunker, so stripping down and doing the "duck" wouldn't surprise me at all. lol

[Griffin5779]

i want a proof

well he hasn't denied it..and if he doesn't that is proof enough for me..not mention there where cameras and 2 others witnesses ...do you honestly think with cameras and wittiness she would make up?

[Tarryn]

I don't think (if this is true) that not wanting someone to spread their arsehole infront of you makes you a prude...really

It was a sarcastic comment. Helen is FAR from a prude. That's the whole point.
Why is she suddenly playing the "I'm a virgin & have never even seen a naked man" card now ?.
If Marc had decided, yet again, to cover his private parts in foil & parade in front of her I doubt Helen would have been offended.

[Nancy.]

It was a sarcastic comment. Helen is FAR from a prude. That's the whole point.
Why is she suddenly playing the "I'm a virgin & have never even seen a naked man" card now ?.
If Marc had decided, yet again, to cover his private parts in foil & parade in front of her I doubt Helen would have been offended.

It was Brians weird behaviour that freaked her out.
...and there's a difference between someone covering their private parts with tin foil and another being completely naked with their balls and arse on full view.

[Vicky.]

It was a sarcastic comment. Helen is FAR from a prude. That's the whole point.
Why is she suddenly playing the "I'm a virgin & have never even seen a naked man" card now ?.
If Marc had decided, yet again, to cover his private parts in foil & parade in front of her I doubt Helen would have been offended.

Shes not? Shes saying it freaked her out. I have seen naked men before, in random situations (such as in a pub :umm2: ) but having someone strip off and lie on the floor and say they are a frozen chicken or whatever..I would be pretty weirded out by that. As would most people I assume D:

[cassieparis]

Nasty piece of work is Helen and that rag is giving her licence to continue turning tricks. :yuk:

[Tarryn]

Shes not? Shes saying it freaked her out. I have seen naked men before, in random situations (such as in a pub :umm2: ) but having someone strip off and lie on the floor and say they are a frozen chicken or whatever..I would be pretty weirded out by that. As would most people I assume D:

And I'm sure if Marc had done this then Marc supporters would be laughing their backsides off saying what a funny man he is (!).
I can hear a huge barrel being scraped when trying to justify Helen's behaviour in that house.
Does ANYTHING Brian did deserve being called a rapist & a murderer ?.
She should have been removed from the house as soon as she said it but true to form Helen & Marc supporters are blaming the victims of their vile behaviour.
NOTHING excuses what she said.
IF Brian had said this to Marc their would have been outrage from his supporters.
And I would have also said that Brian should have been removed.
But some on here can only see wrong in others & defend Helen & Marc regardless.
IF Helen was so offended by Brian's actions then she had the option of walking out.

[Daniel.]

Not reading she's tragic

[Vicky.]

And I'm sure if Marc had done this then Marc supporters would be laughing their backsides off saying what a funny man he is (!).
I can hear a huge barrel being scraped when trying to justify Helen's behaviour in that house.
Does ANYTHING Brian did deserve being called a rapist & a murderer ?.
She should have been removed from the house as soon as she said it but true to form Helen & Marc supporters are blaming the victims of their vile behaviour.
NOTHING excuses what she said.
IF Brian had said this to Marc their would have been outrage from his supporters.
And I would have also said that Brian should have been removed.
But some on here can only see wrong in others & defend Helen & Marc regardless.
Nope, never said it means he deserved to be called that and have condemned that since it happened :shrug:

[Pink Pegasus]

If Helen is such a prude & was so offended & threatened by Brian's behaviour then why did she not go to the diary room & ask them to do something ?.
Or better still, if she is such a moral person then & money & fame means nothing to her, then why not leave ?.
Helen is trying every trick in the book to justify her vile behaviour.
BB has given countless warnings this series for such little things, does anyone really think if Brian was behaving in such a strange & threatening way that BB would not have warned him ?.

Helen sorta makes a point of not going crying to the diaryroom complaining so maybe she felt like she would be a hypocrite if she did?
I have no doubt that if this happened and if she HAD complained to BB that Brian WOULD have gotten a warning and been told to tone down the nudity/odd behaviour in other's personal space or whatever.
As it stands I don't think Helen is a prude I think she just felt Brian was a creepy weirdo that she felt weirded out by but not necessary unsafe because she knew the cameras were there.
Her and Marc also both seemed to be baffled at Brian's explosions of temper in all the rows in the days before that final row. They both seemed to think he was a "psycho" or unhinged they way he would just explode.

She knows it doesn't justify the names she called him and said she could retract those two words if she could and she does clarify that he is NOT either of those things she called him, she just seems to be giving a backstory to explain the build up of things and why that argument went the way it did, even though it of course doesn't excuse the actual words she used.

[BB4fan]

http://bigbrother.channel5.com/day-33-marc-and-brian-plan-their-attack-house

Frozen duck clip here.

[Tarryn]

Nope, never said it means he deserved to be called that and have condemned that since it happened :shrug:

But some on here are trying desperately to search for reasons to defend Helen & make Brian into some kind of sexual predator.
I honestly don't think Brian would want Helen.

[BB4fan]

The clip is there and it did happen so call her a liar now.

[BB4fan]

But some on here are trying desperately to search for reasons to defend Helen & make Brian into some kind of sexual predator.
I honestly don't think Brian would want Helen.

The clip is there with Marc on about it so yeah he is a weirdo and a creep.

[Tarryn]

Helen sorta makes a point of not going crying to the diaryroom complaining so maybe she felt like she would be a hypocrite if she did?
I have no doubt that if this happened and if she HAD complained to BB that Brian WOULD have gotten a warning and been told to tone down the nudity/odd behaviour in other's personal space or whatever.
As it stands I don't think Helen is a prude I think she just felt Brian was a creepy weirdo that she felt weirded out by but not necessary unsafe because she knew the cameras were there.
Her and Marc also both seemed to be baffled at Brian's explosions of temper in all the rows in the days before that final row. They both seemed to think he was a "psycho" or unhinged they way he would just explode.

She knows it doesn't justify the names she called him and said she could retract those two words if she could and she does clarify that he is NOT either of those things she called him, she just seems to be giving a backstory to explain the build up of things and why that argument went the way it did, even though it of course doesn't excuse the actual words she used.

But if Helen was weirded out but not threatened by his behaviour then it's a non-story. She has nothing better to say than slate somebody that she has deeply offended in order to gain backing for her behaviour in that house.
Aaron was removed for his behaviour with Joel so Helen knew BB would have to take action if needs-be but instead she waits to weeks to tell it in a newspaper for maximum publicity.
I just don't believe her :shrug:

[BB4fan]

But if Helen was weirded out but not threatened by his behaviour then it's a non-story. She has nothing better to say than slate somebody that she has deeply offended in order to gain backing for her behaviour in that house.
Aaron was removed for his behaviour with Joel so Helen knew BB would have to take action if needs-be but instead she waits to weeks to tell it in a newspaper for maximum publicity.
I just don't believe her :shrug:


So your saying it never happened when that clips proves that it did. She was weirded it by it and explains why she thought he was an odd ball.

[Tarryn]

The clip is there with Marc on about it so yeah he is a weirdo and a creep.

But I don't believe Helen was offended or creeped out by it.
Any normal person would remove themselves from a situation where they felt like this NOT wait two weeks & tell it to a newspaper.

[BB4fan]

But I don't believe Helen was offended or creeped out by it.
Any normal person would remove themselves from a situation where they felt like this NOT wait two weeks & tell it to a newspaper.


She was weirded out but probably felt safer because Marc and Nikki were there. She's being called vile for her comments so she's only revealing her side of things.

He has a very weird/different side to what BB fans have seen. Helen never denied her actions, but she has a right to let others know that he is an odd character. His temper was over the top.


Sorry but if someone did that randomly I would be a little weirded out.

[billy123]

So nobody gave a flying fig about that clip at the time but now yoyo knickers has decided to try and use it to try and excuse her own behaviour people suddenly make it out to be a big deal.
Talk about desperate.

Im done the desperation is just too much.

[BB4fan]

So nobody gave a flying fig about that clip at the time but now yoyo knickers has decided to try and use it to try and excuse her own behaviour people suddenly make it out to be a big deal.
Talk about desperate.

No, it was used because she was called an apparent liar, but there's the evidence and it was a quick clip.

Thank goodness we never had to endure the full thing like poor Helen.

[Tarryn]

She was weirded out but probably felt safer because Marc and Nikki were there. She's being called vile for her comments so she's only revealing her side of things.

He has a very weird/different side to what BB fans have seen. Helen never denied her actions, but she has a right to let others know that he is an odd character. His temper was over the top.


Sorry but if someone did that randomly I would be a little weirded out.

You believe her, I don't. We will never agree.
All I know is that if Helen & Brian were stuck in a room alone together, I would fear much more for Brian's safety & not "Poor defenceless" Helen.

[sampvt]

I guess we wont know the truth till Marc comes out.

[BB4fan]

You believe her, I don't. We will never agree.
All I know is that if Helen & Brian were stuck in a room alone together, I would fear much more for Brian's safety & not "Poor defenceless" Helen.

Well the proof he did it was in the clip. If he's doing pervy things like that and giving her creepy eyeballs like he did in the final row they had it's a no wonder she views him a perv.

[Glenn.]

She's such a strong character and tells it how it is, so why on earth would she be freaked out by a naked man? I don't buy it. Seems she's just trying to say all the right things to justify her appalling behaviour.

[Tarryn]

No, it was used because she was called an apparent liar, but there's the evidence and it was a quick clip.

Thank goodness we never had to endure the full thing like poor Helen.

Okay, now I know you are joking.
I'm sure Helen is checking into some kind of safe house as we speak, trying desperately to get away from the sex-pest Brian.
Next week she will be opening a shelter for women like her (!).
Helen pretending to be afraid of him makes a mockery of women that are REALLY intimidated or afraid.
Is there no depths this woman won't stoop to in order to fill the papers ?.
Probably not.

[Kazanne]

http://bigbrother.channel5.com/day-33-marc-and-brian-plan-their-attack-house

Frozen duck clip here.

Well Marcs face says it all,so Helen ISN'T lying,thankyou BB4fan

[arista]

It's in the news, it must be true!

Its her View
and I agree with Helen

[hijaxers]

But some on here are trying desperately to search for reasons to defend Helen & make Brian into some kind of sexual predator.
I honestly don't think Brian would want Helen.

Don't think its about being a sexual predator - more about his mental state

[BB4fan]

Okay, now I know you are joking.
I'm sure Helen is checking into some kind of safe house as we speak, trying desperately to get away from the sex-pest Brian.
Next week she will be opening a shelter for women like her (!).
Helen pretending to be afraid of him makes a mockery of women that a REALLY intimidated or afraid.
Is there no depths this woman won't stoop to in order to fill the papers ?.
Probably not.

What? Defending herself against a creep like him?

She has every right to tell people what he's really like to live with just like he couldn't wait to do it to her. You see one hour of highlights and don't see what really goes on in there.

Just because she didn't go crying like a victim doesn't mean she wasn't creeped out by his weird behavior. Why should she take all the blame for everything that went on when frankly, his behavior was downright aggressive and completely different from BB8.

He's a fake and bad tempered with serious issues.

[Tarryn]

Don't think its about being a sexual predator - more about his mental state

That Helen drove him too.
People like Helen get actual pleasure from pushing others to their limit & then watching them upset.
Then blaming them.
She is a vile woman.
What kind of person get's off on something like that ?.

[Tarryn]

What? Defending herself against a creep like him?

She has every right to tell people what he's really like to live with just like he couldn't wait to do it to her. You see one hour of highlights and don't see what really goes on in there.

Just because she didn't go crying like a victim doesn't mean she wasn't creeped out by his weird behavior. Why should she take all the blame for everything that went on when frankly, his behavior was downright aggressive and completely different from BB8.

He's a fake and bad tempered with serious issues.

You say "victim" like it's a dirty word.
If you want to defend her behaviour fine, but don't try to convince me that she was genuinely defending herself.
Helen has REAL problems but they are her own making.

[Kazanne]

That Helen drove him too.
People like Helen get actual pleasure from pushing others to their limit & then watching them upset.
Then blaming them.
She is a vile woman.
What kind of person get's off on something like that ?.

Oh please,now it's Helens fault that Brian is a loose cannon,she doesn't take pleasure in it she just wont sit there and take it,she's no wallflower.

[BB4fan]

That Helen drove him too.
People like Helen get actual pleasure from pushing others to their limit & then watching them upset.
Then blaming them.
She is a vile woman.
What kind of person get's off on something like that ?.


They were barely one day in when he stripped off and called himself a frozen duck.

Wtf was that about...??? So no she couldn't have pushed him to do anything because THAT happened before their problems even started. But nice try.

[Griffin5779]

http://bigbrother.channel5.com/day-33-marc-and-brian-plan-their-attack-house

Frozen duck clip here.

can't view it..wish i could

as usual the anti Helen and Marc crowd find away to attack helen instead of saying "yeah i guess Brian was acting weird" as Joel would say "would you do that at work?" You don't have to believe helen was offended or frightened to recognize that the Brian was acting erratic and a bit creepy

[hijaxers]

They were barely one day in when he stripped off and called himself a frozen duck.

Wtf was that about...??? So know she couldn't have pushed him to do anything because THAT happened before their problems even started.

my point exactly

[Josy]

That Helen drove him too.
People like Helen get actual pleasure from pushing others to their limit & then watching them upset.
Then blaming them.
She is a vile woman.
What kind of person get's off on something like that ?.

So what's your opinion on Brian's odd behaviour in the bunker? (before Helen and him had even had any cross words)

Helen cannot be blamed for that so I'm curious as to what your opinion on Brian's behaviour is?

[Tarryn]

Oh please,now it's Helens fault that Brian is a loose cannon,she doesn't take pleasure in it she just wont sit there and take it,she's no wallflower.

I think it's best you & I don't argue over this ;)

[hijaxers]

I think it's best you & I don't argue over this ;)

Why because you have been proved wrong

[Tarryn]

They were barely one day in when he stripped off and called himself a frozen duck.

Wtf was that about...??? So no she couldn't have pushed him to do anything because THAT happened before their problems even started. But nice try.

How can anyone be offended by someone pretending to be a frozen duck ?.
It's just so stupid.

[Tarryn]

Why because you have been proved wrong

Not that it's any of your business but we never agree on Marc/Helen so that's why it's pointless in us arguing about it.

[sampvt]

I think it's best you & I don't argue over this ;)

I agree, arguing with Kaz when she is bang to rights is daft. There are other things you can both be getting on with.

[hijaxers]

How can anyone be offended by someone pretending to be a frozen duck ?.
It's just so stupid.

What tripe

[Tarryn]

What tripe

I totally agree. Arguing over frozen duck is tripe.
Well said............

[BB4fan]

How can anyone be offended by someone pretending to be a frozen duck ?.
It's just so stupid.


What? Completely naked with his butt cheeks and b***s on display...??? If you were in a room with him and he did that I'm sure you'd find it a little odd.

He clearly wasnt't in the right mental state when he went in.

[Tarryn]

What? Completely naked with his butt cheeks and b***s on display...??? If you were in a room with him.and he did that I'm sure you'd find it a little odd.

He clearly wasnt't in the right mental state when he went in.

If I was truly creeped out by it I would have walked out.

[billy123]

Im still interested as to why nobody on here or Helen found it to be an issue at the time and only found it offensive weeks later.
Oh yeah thats right it was before a reason to be offended to try and excuse her behaviour was needed.
Only on tibb.
Transparent is not the word.

[BB4fan]

If I was truly creeped out by it I would have walked out.


No, he should've been made to walk and not her. He's the one doing creepy things.

Nikki herself said he was acting odd.

[rionablue]

Watch out for the glossies next week OK HELLO HEAT NEW etc. She will be on all of them painting the same picture of Brian and SHE WILL be paid for them!!!!!! She is trying to get what she can from her second stint in the BB house seeing that she has possibly spent the huge payout she got last year

[Tarryn]

No, he should've been made to walk and not her. He's the one doing creepy things.

Nikki herself said he was acting odd.

Then Helen should have gone to the diary room & calmly explained to BB that she found his behaviour odd & creepy & let them deal with it. Not wait two weeks to say something.

[hijaxers]

Watch out for the glossies next week OK HELLO HEAT NEW etc. She will be on all of them painting the same picture of Brian and SHE WILL be paid for them!!!!!! She is trying to get what she can from her second stint in the BB house seeing that she has possibly spent the huge payout she got last year

Well more fool Brian for lining her pockets !

[Kazanne]

Im still interested as to why nobody on here or Helen found it to be an issue at the time and only found it offensive weeks later.
Oh yeah thats right it was before a reason to be offended was needed.
Only on tibb.
Transparent is not the word.

I didn't even know it had happened Bobnot ,Helen is not the sort to run to the DR every 5 mins complaining,maybe Helen is sick of getting all the blame so has now pointed out some of his misdoings,and you can see by Marcs face he was stunned,and he's pretty easy going.

[Tom4784]

God she's so bitter. Move on bitch.

[Kazanne]

Well more fool Brian for lining her pockets !

:clap1::clap1:

[ebandit]

of course the mirth vacuum would be offended by brian's attempt at having..

....'a laugh'..............remember helen's 'slapped arse' face when HM's were enjoying

dancing in friday highlights

Mark L

[BB4fan]

God she's so bitter. Move on bitch.
No that's Nikki.

[ebandit]

No that's Nikki.


reading helen's tweets proves........that she is the bitter one.......

Mark L

[billy123]

This thread is hilarious. I love it.

http://www.jackiewellfonder.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/desperationeverywhere.jpg

[Josy]

Watch out for the glossies next week OK HELLO HEAT NEW etc. She will be on all of them painting the same picture of Brian and SHE WILL be paid for them!!!!!! She is trying to get what she can from her second stint in the BB house seeing that she has possibly spent the huge payout she got last year

She already mentioned on her twitter that Nikki and Brian have already sold stories to anyone that would pay them but that she would be doing one article, for free.

Take from that what you will.

[Griffin5779]

Im still interested as to why nobody on here or Helen found it to be an issue at the time and only found it offensive weeks later.
Oh yeah thats right it was before a reason to be offended was needed.
Only on tibb.
Transparent is not the word.

i never saw this at the time but i have expressed my my opinion that Brians behaviors was wrong since the Chloe argument..and both helen and marc did express their opinion by saying he was weird.

After been racked over the coals and blamed for everything that occurred she has every right to point out his behaviors. While in the house she couldn't know what was..and was not being said, shown & emphasized outside.

[Liam-]

Perched for everyone calling Nikki and Brian bitter and attention seeking liars when their paid for stories come out.

[hijaxers]

reading helen's tweets proves........that she is the bitter one.......

Mark L

Is it bitterness or Honesty - Brian seems to fool himself on that score - I think all of Brians behaviour was the behaviour of someone trying to get column inches not fair play - he's a complete fraud who's blown it !

[Josy]

Perched for everyone calling Nikki and Brian bitter and attention seeking liars when their paid for stories come out.

Nah, they will painted as 'giving Helen a taste of her own' or 'Exposing the devil' blah blah blah.

[sampvt]

She already mentioned on her twitter that Nikki and Brian have already sold stories to anyone that would pay them but that she would be doing one article, for free.

Take from that what you will.

What, nobody willing to take this statement on. Shame. seeing as how its true.

[BB4fan]

She already mentioned on her twitter that Nikki and Brian have already sold stories to anyone that would pay them but that she would be doing one article, for free.

Take from that what you will.

Agreed.
Helen did it free, but Nikki's already been selling stories for her own greedy self.

[sampvt]

Agreed.
Helen did it free, but Nikki's already been selling stories for her own greedy self.

Nikki needs it as she is broke.

[BB4fan]

Nikki needs it as she is broke.

Back to the cafe with her until she invaded another series of BB with her self -entered attitude.

[Jase.]

The 'duck' story is HIGHLY disturbing.

I think Helen's vile but clearly there's a lot of **** we didn't see so I'm not going to sit here now and put all of the blame on her.

[smudgie]

The clip is there and it did happen so call her a liar now.

Yep, the clip proves she is indeed a liar.
Shocked and frightened by it my backside, she was that traumatised she is sat there smiling and encouraging hm to do it when they get into the house.:joker::joker::joker:
She is a bloody joke, as is the 'rag' that allow her to write such utter rubbish.

[Robertocarlo]

So in this latest article we hear what Helen had to endure. Brian Bello stripping off in front of her.


http://www.dailystar.co.uk/tv/big-brother/450553/helen-wood-big-brother-daily-star-online-column-brian-belo

He is a weirdo and Marc did mention last week in the diary room that Brian did some weird stuff in the Timebomb Bunker.

This is a shocking revelation and after having seen how Brian overreacted in the BBH it certainly explains a lot. All credit to Helen and Marc for not exposing this to the HMs. That said not sure they'd believe a word. I do though. It sounds very plausable and not the sort of thing you'd make up. Brian needs serious help.

[billy123]

Yep, the clip proves she is indeed a liar.
Shocked and frightened by it my backside, she was that traumatised she is sat there smiling and encouraging hm to do it when they get into the house.:joker::joker::joker:
She is a bloody joke, as is the 'rag' that allow her to write such utter rubbish.You must have missed the memo Smudgie apparently the daily star has suddenly become a bastion of truth in the last hour :joker::joker:

[ebandit]

The 'duck' story is HIGHLY disturbing.

I think Helen's vile but clearly there's a lot of **** we didn't see so I'm not going to sit here now and put all of the blame on her.

not just disturbing...........................highly disturbing

as mentioned above the last winner of BB Oz ryan did similar several

times and there was completely zero shock.................

Mark L

[BB4fan]

Yep, the clip proves she is indeed a liar.
Shocked and frightened by it my backside, she was that traumatised she is sat there smiling and encouraging hm to do it when they get into the house.:joker::joker::joker:
She is a bloody joke, as is the 'rag' that allow her to write such utter rubbish.


I think Brian made a joke of himself. Going back in with his violent temper, stripping off like a perv then giving Helen creepy eyeballs.

If anything his second stint on the show has revealed his darker side and made him look like a right fool on national television. Helen hasn't changed, but the change in Brian Bellend is outrageous.

[Robertocarlo]

I think Brian made a joke of himself. Going back in with his violent temper, stripping off like a perv then giving Helen creepy eyeballs.

If anything his second stint on the show has revealed his darker side and made him look like a right fool on national television. Helen hasn't changed, but the change in Brian Bellend is outrageous.

Too true.

[Pink Pegasus]

But if Helen was weirded out but not threatened by his behaviour then it's a non-story. She has nothing better to say than slate somebody that she has deeply offended in order to gain backing for her behaviour in that house.
Aaron was removed for his behaviour with Joel so Helen knew BB would have to take action if needs-be but instead she waits to weeks to tell it in a newspaper for maximum publicity.
I just don't believe her :shrug:

Realistically Helen knows there is nothing that can happen to her in the BB house so she might not have felt threatened or in danger, but I do believe her when she says she felt creeped/weirded out by Brian and felt he was an oddball.

It would take a lot more though than just feeling creeped out for Helen to go and complain to BB. In the past Helen defended Jeremy Jackson after groping Chloe and said "that girl has ruined this poor guy's life" - she later went on to befriend Chloe and take her side when she got the full story, but just using that example and Helen's general complaining that housemates go "whinging" too much to the diaryroom would mean that Helen would be very reluctant and it would take something major for her to actually make a formal complaint probably for fear of looking like a hypocrite to her followers if she did. Plus they had just entered the house and maybe she just wanted to brush off the incident and carry on with their task and re-entering the main house. But I can absolutely believe that she did find Brian creepy but can also see a number of reasons why she didn't want to make a big deal out of it and complain even if she was creeped out.

I'm not saying Helen is correct in her assessment of Brian as a creep, as how the heck would I know never met the guy, and by all accounts his friends on the telly describe him as a very sweet guy, but I can say that I can see why she might have come to that conclusion.

It wasn't just the one odd naked incident, there seems to have been a buildup of comments, behaviour and rows that led her (and Marc) to form this opinion of Brian.

In my own opinion, that frozen naked duck thing at breakfast time with no alcohol taken might possibly have just been a very strange attempt at humour by Brian and was meant to be harmless but I can still see why somebody could read it differently and feel uncomfortable. The several outbursts of explosive temper which we did get to witness that seemed to come out of nowhere from Brian would make think the person was a bit unhinged (anger management wise) so I could understand them being baffled and wary by that. Maybe this paired with the things we didn't get to see explains to some extent why Helen and Marc felt Brian was a "weirdo" or a bit of a "psycho".

Again I'm not saying they are necessary correct, but I'm just trying to see it from both sides really. We have got to repeatedly hear Brian and Nikki give their explanations for how Helen and Marc made them feel, got to hear them repeatedly explain what horrible vile scum they felt Helen and Marc are, and got to hear their explanations for losing their temper with Helen. So if they get to sit on telly or sell their stories to papers giving their side explaining their feelings and their angry reactions in the house, then why shouldn't Helen get a chance to give her side and explanation of events too?

Again her giving the backstory/explanation does not justify the two words she called him and she makes that clear herself, this is more just a story of her own time in the house and the build up of why the two didn't get along in the first place imo.

[RichardG]

I can't stand Helen but I just watched that video that was posted right through till the end and to be fair that duck thing was really creepy. :umm2:

[billy123]

Realistically Helen knows there is nothing that can happen to her in the BB house so she might not have felt threatened or in danger, but I do believe her when she says she felt creeped/weirded out by Brian and felt he was an oddball.

It would take a lot more though than just feeling creeped out for Helen to go and complain to BB. In the past Helen defended Jeremy Jackson after groping Chloe and said "that girl has ruined this poor guy's life" - she later went on to befriend Chloe and take her side when she got the full story, but just using that example and Helen's general complaining that housemates go "whinging" too much to the diaryroom would mean that Helen would be very reluctant and it would take something major for her to actually make a formal complaint probably for fear of looking like a hypocrite to her followers if she did. Plus they had just entered the house and maybe she just wanted to brush off the incident and carry on with their task and re-entering the main house. But I can absolutely believe that she did find Brian creepy but can also see a number of reasons why she didn't want to make a big deal out of it and complain even if she was creeped out.

I'm not saying Helen is correct in her assessment of Brian as a creep, as how the heck would I know never met the guy, and by all accounts his friends on the telly describe him as a very sweet guy, but I can say that I can see why she might have come to that conclusion.

It wasn't just the one odd naked incident, there seems to have been a buildup of comments, behaviour and rows that led her (and Marc) to form this opinion of Brian.

In my own opinion, that frozen naked duck thing at breakfast time with no alcohol taken might possibly have just been a very strange attempt at humour by Brian and was meant to be harmless but I can still see why somebody could read it differently and feel uncomfortable. The several outbursts of explosive temper which we did get to witness that seemed to come out of nowhere from Brian would make think the person was a bit unhinged (anger management wise) so I could understand them being baffled and wary by that. Maybe this paired with the things we didn't get to see explains to some extent why Helen and Marc felt Brian was a "weirdo" or a bit of a "psycho".

Again I'm not saying they are necessary correct, but I'm just trying to see it from both sides really. We have got to repeatedly hear Brian and Nikki give their explanations for how Helen and Marc made them feel, got to hear them repeatedly explain what horrible vile scum they felt Helen and Marc are, and got to hear their explanations for losing their temper with Helen. So if they get to sit on telly or sell their stories to papers giving their side explaining their feelings and their angry reactions in the house, then why shouldn't Helen get a chance to give her side and explanation of events too?

Again her giving the backstory/explanation does not justify the two words she called him and she makes that clear herself, this is more just a story of her own time in the house and the build up of why the two didn't get along in the first place imo.Great post Pink Pegausus thank you for that i was losing all hope of reading a balanced post without an agenda today.
Faith restored.

[Jack_]

"Why do people think I want to upset others when I don't?"

The 28-year-old, who was issued a formal warning for the insults, concluded: "I'm not sorry for upsetting Brian

Stupid contradictory ****ing ****.

[VanessaFeltz.]

I think one thing everyone agrees is that this shows the importance of live feed

[billy123]

I think one thing everyone agrees is that this shows the importance of live feedCouldnt agree more. I dont really give a damn who wins at the moment as i havent really got to know the housemates.

[fitz2k2]

Couldnt agree more. I dont really give a damn who wins at the moment as i havent really got to know the housemates.

WTF!!!! is there to know?
Nick-picks his nose and is all over harry 24/7
chloe-boring
Cristian-decide to wake up since he was nominated
jack-each day kicks himself for not choosing the car and he def need to wash that robe he is always wearing
sam-fake fake fake
joel-enjoys wearing womens clothes but can handle his own in argument
danny-always buts in during marc convo with someone
harry-we all know he using him

[ItWasJustBanter]

Stupid contradictory ****ing ****.

:joker:

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/brian-belo-promising-cause-carnage-214102611.html#glVT2xe

Stupid contradictory ****ing *****

“I want to have some partners in crime and cause some havoc, I mean really cause some carnage,” he said.

:joker:

[ItWasJustBanter]

That frozen duck was intimidating. How could a sane person do that after just meeting someone? Clearly he's a few bricks short of a wall.

[Jack_]

:joker:

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/brian-belo-promising-cause-carnage-214102611.html#glVT2xe

Stupid contradictory ****ing *****

“I want to have some partners in crime and cause some havoc, I mean really cause some carnage,” he said.

:joker:

You haven't posted something that contradicts that statement, so it's a failed point I'm afraid. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery though so thank you :kiss:

[hannah.]

http://bigbrother.channel5.com/day-33-marc-and-brian-plan-their-attack-house

[hannah.]

Oops, I didn't realise there was more than one page. Sorry if anyone posted that before me :eek:

[ItWasJustBanter]

You haven't posted something that contradicts that statement, so it's a failed point I'm afraid. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery though so thank you :kiss:

He jumped out over the wall mate, remember? So much for causing carnage:joker:

[BB4fan]

That frozen duck was intimidating. How could a sane person do that after just meeting someone? Clearly he's a few bricks short of a wall.

Agreed. He only just met her and the first thing he does is strip naked and call himself a frozen duck.

Wtf is that about...??? He's got serious problems.

[Jack_]

He jumped out over the wall mate, remember? So much for causing carnage:joker:

Yeah I do mate, he did after he was bullied by Helen remember pal? He caused more than enough 'carnage' with his arguments with Helen across the two weeks mate

[BB4fan]

Yeah I do mate, he did after he was bullied by Helen remember pal? He caused more than enough 'carnage' with his arguments with Helen across the two weeks mate

Doesn't excuse his behavior and perving about in the Timebomb bunker does it...??? He did this before any arguments occurred between the pair.

Helen didn't bully him it was him who pursued her everytime and then jumped the wall because his ugly side was showing this time round that he hid so well during the first stint on BB8.

[BB4fan]

Yeah I do mate, he did after he was bullied by Helen remember pal? He caused more than enough 'carnage' with his arguments with Helen across the two weeks mate

You're right there about him causing carnage with his arguments. He CAUSED them ALL because he went looking for trouble like the bad tempered mug he is.

Helen was defending herself.

[Ammi]

Realistically Helen knows there is nothing that can happen to her in the BB house so she might not have felt threatened or in danger, but I do believe her when she says she felt creeped/weirded out by Brian and felt he was an oddball.

It would take a lot more though than just feeling creeped out for Helen to go and complain to BB. In the past Helen defended Jeremy Jackson after groping Chloe and said "that girl has ruined this poor guy's life" - she later went on to befriend Chloe and take her side when she got the full story, but just using that example and Helen's general complaining that housemates go "whinging" too much to the diaryroom would mean that Helen would be very reluctant and it would take something major for her to actually make a formal complaint probably for fear of looking like a hypocrite to her followers if she did. Plus they had just entered the house and maybe she just wanted to brush off the incident and carry on with their task and re-entering the main house. But I can absolutely believe that she did find Brian creepy but can also see a number of reasons why she didn't want to make a big deal out of it and complain even if she was creeped out.

I'm not saying Helen is correct in her assessment of Brian as a creep, as how the heck would I know never met the guy, and by all accounts his friends on the telly describe him as a very sweet guy, but I can say that I can see why she might have come to that conclusion.

It wasn't just the one odd naked incident, there seems to have been a buildup of comments, behaviour and rows that led her (and Marc) to form this opinion of Brian.

In my own opinion, that frozen naked duck thing at breakfast time with no alcohol taken might possibly have just been a very strange attempt at humour by Brian and was meant to be harmless but I can still see why somebody could read it differently and feel uncomfortable. The several outbursts of explosive temper which we did get to witness that seemed to come out of nowhere from Brian would make think the person was a bit unhinged (anger management wise) so I could understand them being baffled and wary by that. Maybe this paired with the things we didn't get to see explains to some extent why Helen and Marc felt Brian was a "weirdo" or a bit of a "psycho".

Again I'm not saying they are necessary correct, but I'm just trying to see it from both sides really. We have got to repeatedly hear Brian and Nikki give their explanations for how Helen and Marc made them feel, got to hear them repeatedly explain what horrible vile scum they felt Helen and Marc are, and got to hear their explanations for losing their temper with Helen. So if they get to sit on telly or sell their stories to papers giving their side explaining their feelings and their angry reactions in the house, then why shouldn't Helen get a chance to give her side and explanation of events too?

Again her giving the backstory/explanation does not justify the two words she called him and she makes that clear herself, this is more just a story of her own time in the house and the build up of why the two didn't get along in the first place imo.




..great post Peggy I always love reading your thoughts...:love:...she may have felt that Brian was on oddball, I mean it was quite an oddball thing to do and not at breakfast time and could you please not 'frozen duck' right next to me, Brian etc...my thoughts though are that her ‘reluctance to have gone to the DR..’..were that although it happened/the frozen duck thing, there was quite a bit omitted from ‘the whole of it..’...after it all, when they were all discussing their ‘chaos’ they would cause in the house, Brian kept saying to Marc...’I thought that you would get it..’ because I think it was more a complete ‘misjudgement’ or a ‘too far’ from him...and Marc’s response was that it had been the timing of it more than anything while they were all eating their cereal etc and oooops pops up Brian with his frozen duck..I mean..what, I’m eating my cornflakes here and could you give us a little warning first..?....also when they were having their ‘after the frozen duck’ talk and Marc was talking about flipping beds etc..Brian said..’and I’ll do the frozen duck..’...and both Marc and Helen said, yes do that ...Helen even said pleeeease do it....Marc said for Brian to do it in the garden by the pool so ..no we don’t want to see it quite so up close, thanks but still please do it..?... Marc was even a bit worried that Brian was ‘bottling it’ because he had been in the ‘sin bin’ for half a day so obviously Brian had realised that it was quite a dubious thing after all/his interpretation of a frozen duck..:laugh:...I honestly can’t believe that I’m typing this frozen duck stuff...:laugh:...but Marc was insisting it was just a timing thing and that he should do it in the house as part of all of their 'plan'...but all through the conversation, Helen was vocal in encouraging Brian and also laughing and looking very comfortable...so what really could have been ‘reported’ in the DR...that he was naked..?...but hmmmm/Harry so really no...for doing it while they were eating breakfast and without warning/in close proximity to Helen if it was..?...so really less ‘reluctance’ from what I see but more nothing really to ‘complain’ because of their vocal ‘approval’ of it but much less so approving of the timing of it ...and yeah, probably much awkwardness if he had been in the ‘sin bin’ for half a day because they didn’t realise his version of the frozen duck....

..anyways there are a few things in the article that don’t quite correlate for me and are contradictory, whether ‘manipulated’ by Helen herself or the newspaper/I really don’t know....

"I didn't say anything, I didn't want to enrage him, I just found his behaviour the strangest I've ever come across. It was frightening.
"And for me not to say anything, that means I'm intimidated because we know I don't hold back."


..and yet she completely goaded him later on in the house which she herself admitted to...would someone do that to someone that you ‘didn’t want to enrage’ or a person they felt intimidated by..?..yeah in the safety of people around and being in BB but she had that in the bunker as well with Nikki and Marc and the eyes of BB....


..also... "Considering what I've done for a job in the past and how open-minded I am with people," "I did not want to be left in a room with him. You could tell by my body language."

"I don't enjoy arguing. When I said those remarks, I'd just had enough of him. If he hadn't have left, I'd have gone.
"We had previously spoken about my past, I was very honest with him about having been an escort and listened as he told me stuff in private, yet he threw everything back in my face.’’


..so she felt so uncomfortable as to not want to be left in a room alone with him but he told her stuff in private/they had private chats...so alone together chats..?....and she was ok with that..?..


..I do agree with you in that she does have the right to say her story as well as Brian and Nikki or any of the housemates....and Helen's gone now, Brian's gone now, Nikki's gone now and hopefully Aisleyne as well soon and hopefully we'll get more of the frozen ducks of the civilian housemates as they really I do think, have been frozen in time the last few weeks and this is their show...time to unfreeze them....

[jaxie]

I can't stand Helen but I just watched that video that was posted right through till the end and to be fair that duck thing was really creepy. :umm2:

He was clowning around, trying to make them laugh. :shrug:

[HeyThereDelilah]

I loved Brian in BB8 but have gone off him since Helen showed his true colours he is a creep.

[reece(:]

She really needs to get some self reflection, she can't go on the rest of her life like this. It's a disgrace that people get away with being a **** to others like her.

[BB4fan]

"I didn't say anything, I didn't want to enrage him, I just found his behaviour the strangest I've ever come across. It was frightening.

She sounds pretty upset to me. She shouldn't have to feel frightened or worried that asking him why he's naked could possible enrage him further.

He should've been removed for this and that whole article shows how truly vile this man really, really is. Helen was clearly the victim in all this and he sounds OBSESSED with the poor woman.

[Rorkimaru]

I don't think it's much worse than some stuff Marc or Harry have done but it is weird and she's entitled to have disliked it even if she wasn't threatened and she's free to give her thoughts on it since it is a thing which happened.

[cassieparis]

I'm surprised she hasn't claimed to have found him rifling through personal belongings or her frigging purse while she was clutching her pearls!
It farcical and the rolling trolling from left stage on this thread is ridiculous. People who cry fear and intimidation when they have been caught and shown to be utter and complete bisches ....... :yuk: pondlife !!

[jaxie]

She sounds pretty upset to me. She shouldn't have to feel frightened or worried that asking him why he's naked could possible enrage him further.

He should've been removed for this and that whole article shows how truly vile this man really, really is. Helen was clearly the victim in all this and he sounds OBSESSED with the poor woman.

She was as frightened as a soggy bag of chips.

[Pink Pegasus]

..great post Peggy I always love reading your thoughts...:love:...she may have felt that Brian was on oddball, I mean it was quite an oddball thing to do and not at breakfast time and could you please not 'frozen duck' right next to me, Brian etc...my thoughts though are that her ‘reluctance to have gone to the DR..’..were that although it happened/the frozen duck thing, there was quite a bit omitted from ‘the whole of it..’...after it all, when they were all discussing their ‘chaos’ they would cause in the house, Brian kept saying to Marc...’I thought that you would get it..’ because I think it was more a complete ‘misjudgement’ or a ‘too far’ from him...and Marc’s response was that it had been the timing of it more than anything while they were all eating their cereal etc and oooops pops up Brian with his frozen duck..I mean..what, I’m eating my cornflakes here and could you give us a little warning first..?....also when they were having their ‘after the frozen duck’ talk and Marc was talking about flipping beds etc..Brian said..’and I’ll do the frozen duck..’...and both Marc and Helen said, yes do that ...Helen even said pleeeease do it....Marc said for Brian to do it in the garden by the pool so ..no we don’t want to see it quite so up close, thanks but still please do it..?... Marc was even a bit worried that Brian was ‘bottling it’ because he had been in the ‘sin bin’ for half a day so obviously Brian had realised that it was quite a dubious thing after all/his interpretation of a frozen duck..:laugh:...I honestly can’t believe that I’m typing this frozen duck stuff...:laugh:...but Marc was insisting it was just a timing thing and that he should do it in the house as part of all of their 'plan'...but all through the conversation, Helen was vocal in encouraging Brian and also laughing and looking very comfortable...so what really could have been ‘reported’ in the DR...that he was naked..?...but hmmmm/Harry so really no...for doing it while they were eating breakfast and without warning/in close proximity to Helen if it was..?...so really less ‘reluctance’ from what I see but more nothing really to ‘complain’ because of their vocal ‘approval’ of it but much less so approving of the timing of it ...and yeah, probably much awkwardness if he had been in the ‘sin bin’ for half a day because they didn’t realise his version of the frozen duck....

..anyways there are a few things in the article that don’t quite correlate for me and are contradictory, whether ‘manipulated’ by Helen herself or the newspaper/I really don’t know....

"I didn't say anything, I didn't want to enrage him, I just found his behaviour the strangest I've ever come across. It was frightening.
"And for me not to say anything, that means I'm intimidated because we know I don't hold back."


..and yet she completely goaded him later on in the house which she herself admitted to...would someone do that to someone that you ‘didn’t want to enrage’ or a person they felt intimidated by..?..yeah in the safety of people around and being in BB but she had that in the bunker as well with Nikki and Marc and the eyes of BB....


..also... "Considering what I've done for a job in the past and how open-minded I am with people," "I did not want to be left in a room with him. You could tell by my body language."

"I don't enjoy arguing. When I said those remarks, I'd just had enough of him. If he hadn't have left, I'd have gone.
"We had previously spoken about my past, I was very honest with him about having been an escort and listened as he told me stuff in private, yet he threw everything back in my face.’’


..so she felt so uncomfortable as to not want to be left in a room alone with him but he told her stuff in private/they had private chats...so alone together chats..?....and she was ok with that..?..


..I do agree with you in that she does have the right to say her story as well as Brian and Nikki or any of the housemates....and Helen's gone now, Brian's gone now, Nikki's gone now and hopefully Aisleyne as well soon and hopefully we'll get more of the frozen ducks of the civilian housemates as they really I do think, have been frozen in time the last few weeks and this is their show...time to unfreeze them....

I've done a bit of research on 'the frozen duck' (can't believe I'm typing these words either :blush: :laugh: ) and it seems Brian may have been imitating a BB Australia housemate who did some naked thing called "the frozen chicken" - the housemate who did this last year in BB Australia apparently went on to win the show so maybe Brian thought it was hilarious. But yeah, timing was completely wrong at the breakfast table, and I would be completely freaked the feck out if someone I'd just met did that when I was trying to eat my croissant. If Helen and Marc were later laughing about it though then they must have later seen a funny side to it (maybe if he explained it to them), but think we both see why it was so weird at first! (seriously, what has my life become that I am researching frozen ducks and frozen chickens, I despair..... :) )

Like I said though I don't think that was the only thing that bothered Helen (and she must have not been bothered by it as much later when she knew it was a jokey thing) but she seems to have a found a number of other comments and behaviour odd or that built up to give her an overall bad 'vibe' about him.

The thing about not wanting to enrage him but then later going on to just goad and let rip on him she explains by saying that she had just finally had enough of his outbursts.

She said: "He had a glazed expression over his face, with absolute hatred in his eyes.

"The only thing that made me feel safe is that I had cameras everywhere because that's how strange of a person I think he is.

"I don't enjoy arguing. When I said those remarks, I'd just had enough of him. If he hadn't have left, I'd have gone.

"We had previously spoken about my past, I was very honest with him about having been an escort and listened as he told me stuff in private, yet he threw everything back in my face.

"He called me a 'Dementor', said I was 'cheap', shouted 'you make your money out of being a scumbag', and the worst, 'how are you a mother?'.




so she explains it as she finally just snapped bigtime.

I've watched that argument a couple of times now, and most won't agree but just in relation to the bit where she is supposed to be intimidated but yet goads him - the bit where a lot of people are saying "poor Brian was just innocently sitting there near tears and not retaliating and she kept going for him - what a bully" it did not really look exactly that way to me.

He was just after giving a long speech about what terrible people he thought the pair of them were, when Helen said "everyone in this house knows where they stand with me" he immediately started to jump in again raising his voice about to argue about himself and Helen until Helen said, "not you, not you I'm talking about everyone in the house" at which point he did shut up but he sat there glaring at her. This is when she said "you're gonna lose it again aren't you, look at the aggression in your face, if the camera's weren't here what would you do, ask yourself that" - we get shown a shot of Brian for a couple of seconds trembling and glaring but imo it was in sheer anger and temper like he was about to explode not really a tearful frightened trembling. This was kinda proven when just a few seconds later she says "if you want me to antagonize ya I feckin will!" we can't see Brian's face at this exact point but it seems he's making faces/licking his lips at her when she said it- because she says "oh yeah look at him licking his lips!" - we then get shown a quick shot of Brian beaming wildly at her, it was like they were both goading and antagonising each other really at this point.

Later in the next scene though I can see that she definitely did goad him even more by saying "straight jacket's in the storeroom" "psycho" and by saying "keep playing into my hands", this was in response to him first saying to her "this woman has no principles, morals, or self respect and she acts like she just walked out of a dustbin" (this and possibly other personal insults to her about her past, we did hear him calling her a dirty old prozzie and stuff before, this morals and dustbin comments all happened before she went way overboard with her own insults).

I can't and would never even try or want to defend what she said he looked like, because it was just so completely over the top and a terrible thing to say. The only bit I disagree about a little bit with some people is that Brian was just sitting there about to cry out of being upset and she bullied him. At the start imo they were both goading and insulting each other and she had seen Brian flip a few times already so I think that's what she meant when she said "you're gonna lose it again aren't you" and she was just fed up of his outbursts at her. And he did look like he was about to explode in temper not run away crying imo. She says that she felt a bit intimidated by his outbursts before but the way she reacts to act is to fight back harder and to not allow anybody to let her feel intimidated. Helen will always fight back and has always fought back in every argument no matter how she's feeling ((it's a bit of a strange logic but I think that's the explanation she's trying to give, whether it's true or not I don't know)

I'm just trying to understand her explanation of how she says she was intimated by his outbursts but why she could then snap and went on to not step down and let him get angrier and say things like "what would you do if the cameras weren't here". Maybe she genuinely did feel like he was trying to intimidate her but she had strength because she knew she was safe in the house and so fought back.
(I don't personally think or have any evidence that Brian would have gotten violent with her, but he does have a very scary temper as does Helen to some people I suppose, he just seems to flip very quickly and comes across a bit unpredictable in his temperament which could be unsettling) Whatever her reasons she felt the need to stand her ground and either attack or defend depending on the way you view it. Maybe it's a bit of both. I don't think she's used to people responding so angrily and shouty with her and she reacted in a way that was even worse again than her usual tempers.

Still absolutely 100% wrong for saying he looked like a rapist though. No defending that, and there was no need to throw those words in at what seemed to be nearly the end or breaking up of the argument.

Such crazy topics we end up discussing on this forum -Outrageous insults, frozen ducks/chickens, what next?! Sometimes I can see why my oh refuses to watch the show. :D

[ItWasJustBanter]

Did he say that about her being a mother? That truly is a scumbag thing to say to someone.

[MrWong]

Helen sounds bitter that "every magazine known to man" wanted to hear from Nikki and not her. :smug:

[Lampfan]

As strange as the frozen duck thing was, she didn't seem all that bothered by it in the clip. She was even encouraging him to do it again in the main house.

[MrWong]

As strange as the frozen duck thing was, she didn't seem all that bothered by it in the clip. She was even encouraging him to do it again in the main house.

She had to make it sound sinister to try and justify her own disgusting behaviour. Pretty desperate.

[Angelika]

She said she wrote this column free of charge. She tweeted it.

That proves something, does it!

I'd need to see the outage before I believed a word written by Helen.

[Griffin5779]

That proves something, does it!

I'd need to see the outage before I believed a word written by Helen.

its all on camera and there are witnesses ... i'd need to see a denial by brian before i doubted it under those conditions...and i'm sure if it lies he and nicki will make that clear

but the fact that you find you need to attack the truth of comments suggests to me you can't defend brian's actions as she describes

[Glenn.]

The mere fact that it's paid to do columns anyway it's quite unbelievable

[ItWasJustBanter]

She had to make it sound sinister to try and justify her own disgusting behaviour. Pretty desperate.

Whether she found it sinister or not, it was pretty ****ing sinister.

[jaxie]

She had to make it sound sinister to try and justify her own disgusting behaviour. Pretty desperate.

:clap1:

[MrWong]

Whether she found it sinister or not, it was pretty ****ing sinister.

So sinister that she wanted him to do it again in the main house :umm2:

You've just bought into her exaggeration and bull****. :facepalm:

[Nancy.]

The mere fact that it's paid to do columns anyway it's quite unbelievable

Oh, I don't know.
It's rather strange how you enjoyed reading what she had to say before she put you in your place on twitter. :joker:

[ItWasJustBanter]

Oh, I don't know.
It's rather strange how you enjoyed reading what she had to say before she put you in your place on twitter. :joker:

:joker:

Please link me to this :joker:

[Calderyon]

Ryan from BB Australia last did the "duck" several times to his original housemates and every new housemates that arrived and he won the show.

[Happyhound]

I am so sick of reading how horrified Helen was about Brian doing his Frozen Duck in the bunker. Brian is a HUGE BB Australia fan & last years winner Ryan GInns did that in the BBAU house on several occasions:

http://www.popsugar.com.au/celebrity...photo-36162569

I think Brian even commented on his twitter about Ryan doing it. Sophmoric humor, but Brian loves that type of humor. Helen acted like it was some demented act done by a madman. Just a silly attempt at humor that the BBAU housemates found hilarious.

Get over yourself Helen, no amount of trying to blame Brian for your vile behavior is going to work

[Nancy.]

:joker:

Please link me to this :joker:

I don't have the link, but he knows what i'm talking about. :laugh:

[JTM45]

I am so sick of reading how horrified Helen was about Brian doing his Frozen Duck in the bunker. Brian is a HUGE BB Australia fan & last years winner Ryan GInns did that in the BBAU house on several occasions:

http://www.popsugar.com.au/celebrity...photo-36162569

I think Brian even commented on his twitter about Ryan doing it. Sophmoric humor, but Brian loves that type of humor. Helen acted like it was some demented act done by a madman. Just a silly attempt at humor that the BBAU housemates found hilarious.

Get over yourself Helen, no amount of trying to blame Brian for your vile behavior is going to work

Very well said!!! :clap1:

Desperate behaviour and Helen go hand in hand. When you've got nothing else to offer i suppose desperation is her last resort.

[MrWong]

She already mentioned on her twitter that Nikki and Brian have already sold stories to anyone that would pay them but that she would be doing one article, for free.

Take from that what you will.

None of the mags think she's worth paying so she had to do it for free.

[BB4fan]

Helen sounds bitter that "every magazine known to man" wanted to hear from Nikki and not her. :smug:
More like the skinny little wench tripped over herself to put it out there.:hehe:

[BB4fan]

Oh, I don't know.
It's rather strange how you enjoyed reading what she had to say before she put you in your place on twitter. :joker:


Lol good one.

[BB4fan]

The mere fact that it's paid to do columns anyway it's quite unbelievable

Your bitterness for her seems far more bitter than anything that she is accused of being bitter about.

[MrWong]

More like the skinny little wench trapped over herself to put it out there.:hehe:

Helen made out that the mags were all over Nikki. :hehe:

Calling someone skinny whose getting over anorexia is low. I can see why you're a fan of Helen.

[bots]

Helen made out that the mags were all over Nikki. :hehe:

Calling someone skinny whose getting over anorexia is low. I can see why you're a fan of Helen.

As has been said a few times, calling someone fat who has been anorexic would have been nasty, saying she is skinny is not

[MrWong]

As has been said a few times, calling someone fat who has been anorexic would have been nasty, saying she is skinny is not

:umm2:

[BB4fan]

Helen made out that the mags were all over Nikki. :hehe:

Calling someone skinny whose getting over anorexia is low. I can see why you're a fan of Helen.

No different to all the Jack hate over his weight then...??? It was alright for Nikki to take the piss out of Harry's figure and say she needs to eat less.

If she's such an expert on body issues, then the git shouldn't insult others figures herself.

[MrWong]

No different to all the Jack hate over his weight then...??? It was alright for Nikki to take the piss out of Harry's figure and say she needs to eat less.

If she's such an expert on body issues, then the git shouldn't insult others figures herself.

It adds nothing to the topic.

Which is, Helen's lying/exaggerating about Brian to justify her own nasty behaviour.

[JeanP!]

Hell, Brian is such a creep.

[Robertocarlo]

BB should really have shown all these vile and negative things done by those two divas Nikki and Brian. What a thoroughly horrible and nasty pair they both are. Poor Helen what she had to go through was disgusting. Now we know the truth don't we.

[Griffin5779]

It adds nothing to the topic.

Which is, Helen's lying/exaggerating about Brian to justify her own nasty behaviour.

Are you absolutely sure Brian hasn't lied/exaggerating about Helen and Marc to justify his nasty behavior?

Its all on camera..Brian should sue..unless helens description is correct.

[Griffin5779]

BB should really have shown all these vile and negative things done by those two divas Nikki and Brian. What a thoroughly horrible and nasty pair they both are. Poor Helen what she had to go through was disgusting. Now we know the truth don't we.

they showed me enough of Brian for me to decide ..talking bout helens tits..suggesting she and harry hook up in the pool...his actions with jade..a 27 year old acting like a horny teenager..no excuse.

blowing up aggressively numerous times over next to nothing ... saying nasty bitchy thing behind helens and marcs back..

bending, distorting and out right lying about nomination decision to avoid any blame and make helen and marc out to look bad..the topper has to be blaming marc for jades nomination when actually it was his best friend nicki..after all if nicki had just sided with brian..sam would have been up

[dc5r666]

they showed me enough of Brian for me to decide ..talking bout helens tits..suggesting she and harry hook up in the pool...his actions with jade..a 27 year old acting like a horny teenager..no excuse.

blowing up aggressively numerous times over next to nothing ... saying nasty bitchy thing behind helens and marcs back..

bending, distorting and out right lying about nomination decision to avoid any blame and make helen and marc out to look bad..the topper has to be blaming marc for jades nomination when actually it was his best friend nicki..after all if nicki had just sided with brian..sam would have been up

Someone who doesn't wear NHS milk bottle specs & doesn't suffer from amnesia!

Glad there are still some of us who watch it properly. :thumbs:

[Robertocarlo]

they showed me enough of Brian for me to decide ..talking bout helens tits..suggesting she and harry hook up in the pool...his actions with jade..a 27 year old acting like a horny teenager..no excuse.

blowing up aggressively numerous times over next to nothing ... saying nasty bitchy thing behind helens and marcs back..

bending, distorting and out right lying about nomination decision to avoid any blame and make helen and marc out to look bad..the topper has to be blaming marc for jades nomination when actually it was his best friend nicki..after all if nicki had just sided with brian..sam would have been up

I agree totally we'd seen enough and I had already decided Brian was a sneaky, vile, aggressive snake! I am though amazed at how BB; BBOTS; Emma, Ryland and people on here all think Brian is some sort of saint. What am I missing???? :shrug:

[chuff me dizzy]

BB should really have shown all these vile and negative things done by those two divas Nikki and Brian. What a thoroughly horrible and nasty pair they both are. Poor Helen what she had to go through was disgusting. Now we know the truth don't we.

:clap1:

[jet]

I agree totally we'd seen enough and I had already decided Brian was a sneaky, vile, aggressive snake! I am though amazed at how BB; BBOTS; Emma, Ryland and people on here all think Brian is some sort of saint. What am I missing???? :shrug:

No - one said he's a saint though. Ryland and Emma said they know Brian and Nikki well and speak highly of them both. Their liking for them is obvious. We don't know them personally but if people who do know them treat them affectionately, it says a lot about them. Does that answer your question?

[Glenn.]

Can we stop discussing her now.

[abhorson]

Someone who doesn't wear NHS milk bottle specs & doesn't suffer from amnesia!

Glad there are still some of us who watch it properly. :thumbs:

:laugh:Ouch.

[chuff me dizzy]

Can we stop discussing her now.

You can if you want, but others will carry on

[abhorson]

No - one said he's a saint though. Ryland and Emma said they know Brian and Nikki well and speak highly of them both. Their liking for them is obvious. We don't know them personally but if people who do know them treat them affectionately, it says a lot about them. Does that answer your question?

:clap1::clap1:

It really should. They are in the know and with more info. Not the average armchair viewer. I could say not the average Kyle, GS, TOWIE etc fan:laugh:

Not much offence.

[Griffin5779]

I agree totally we'd seen enough and I had already decided Brian was a sneaky, vile, aggressive snake! I am though amazed at how BB; BBOTS; Emma, Ryland and people on here all amazed at how BB; BBOTS; Emma, Ryland. What am I missing???? :shrug:

helen already has a bad reputation..those who like her..like her because she's"not sweet" BB; BBOTS; Emma, Ryland probably well know Brian was being a prick..but there is no upside within the "BB Family" for tarnishing his image

[BB4fan]

Helen revealed in her interview that she was scared of Brian whilst living with him in the time warp Bunker.


Brian took all his clothes off and she found it to be inappropriate, scary and to the point where she felt she had to go along with it just to NOT enrage him further.


Helen was scared a LOT.

[andybigbro]

She's full of ****.

[ItWasJustBanter]

Two words: frozen duck

Psycho

[BB4fan]

Yeah, Brian is off his head.

[JTM45]

What is the point in this thread ?
Such a steaming pile of BS!!!!

[Jason.]

Why are you bringing up Helen?
She's so last week. As are Nikki and Brian. All of this was mentioned last week. It's old news. No need to make a thread about it, when there's numerous existing threads about it.

[BB4fan]

Why are you bringing up Helen?
She's so last week. As are Nikki and Brian. All of this was mentioned last week. It's old news. No need to make a thread about it, when there's numerous existing threads about it.

We have good reason to bring this up as it's being overly ignored. Helen is an innocent woman who was harassed by a disturbed being.

[BB4fan]

What is the point in this thread ?
Such a steaming pile of BS!!!!

The point is Helens claims are being ignored. Imagine if this happened in the streets by some random.

Brian was ten minutes in the door when he decided to show his private parts to an innocent victim.

[Vicky.]

We have good reason to bring this up as it's being overly ignored. Helen is an innocent woman who was harassed by a disturbed being.

You already made a thread about this. Merged.

[BB4fan]

Helen should sue him.

[JamesBond]

Helen should sue him.

BB should sue him for ruining the show.

[JamesBond]

BB should really have shown all these vile and negative things done by those two divas Nikki and Brian. What a thoroughly horrible and nasty pair they both are. Poor Helen what she had to go through was disgusting. Now we know the truth don't we.

Its only fair.

[JamesBond]

You can if you want, but others will carry on


:clap1:

I'm not going to start talking about Danny and how great he is just to make other people happy.

[BB4fan]

BB should sue him for ruining the show.

I agree. He destroyed it, then he sold stories about the very show that got him a little recognition.

He's a git.

[qwerty42]

You can see by even marcs reaction how mental that is. Marcs a funny guy but hres in shock at that.

I told you all hes a weirdo I spotted it when he made a comment about Helens tits just before entering then the way he attacked jade

[JeanP!]

I agree. He destroyed it, then he sold stories about the very show that got him a little recognition.

He's a git.

Always knew he was a psycho

[Razor]

Honestly I couldn't care less what that vile woman thinks.

[joeysteele]

No it doesn't but it further adds to the point some have been making that Brian isn't the innocent 'hero' he is being portrayed as.

I dislike Helen but Brian was a complete tit in that house, he started and butted into a lot of arguments that were none of his business, throwing in random reasons and lies to make himself look better.

He never was the innocent hero, in fact he wasn't a hero at all for me.

He firstly got huffed and angry with Nikki in the bunker, she even had to go over and try to console him after he had moaned in the diary room too.

Then he cowardly always tried to backtrack from the noms they made,blaming the others for the decisions as if he had nothing at all to do with any of them really.

He then hammered Helen and Marc fro Jade being nominated when in fact it was Helen and Nikki who led the nominations of Jade.

He met someone and 2 days later was in bed with them and almost talking about them as a 'girlfriend'.really odd that to me.

He wanted to leave early on after going in, then decided not to once he got into an involvement with Jade.

Jade gets evicted, then he starts his really bad temper again, taking off and bizarrely throwing shoes behind him,what was that all about.
Then come the big one, his major confrontation with Helen and her 'wrong' terminologies she used at him, however in my thoughts as in others, who were looking at him, I wondered, from his really smouldering and sinister expressions,just what would he possibly do to her if there were no cameras on them and they were alone.

Then he clearly must have known, that he unjustifiably attacked Marc,especially as to Jade,
Which soon afterwards saw him cowardly not go and sound off to BB as he had regularly done before but go and draw attention to himself by climbing over a wall, to what I still say was a very 'conveniently placed' ladder.

Making way firstly for Aisleyne to have a place in the house by his leaving and also to leave the blame for his going on Helen and Marc because of the arguments, which he actually often started too.

All that done,I firmly believe, because he wanted to follow Jade,had she not been evicted,he would never have gone anywhere,or wanted to, no matter what was going on in the house.

To me he showed himself up bigtime, he came across as cowardly and a wimp and also he did look really sinister in that argument and he could come out with some vile stuff of his own when it suited him too.
Good riddance to him,he was painted the better guy by BB in all aspects of 'conflicts' in the house but as is often the case, were we to be ever able to see all the goings on, the realities may be very different indeed.

I would now believe Helen more than Brian.
Because she has demonstrated rightly and wrongly, she is basically honest,he backtracked on so much,despite the cameras, that he is the one more likely to be doubted as to his version of events.

A hero,not in my book.

[JeanP!]

Honestly I couldn't care less what that vile woman thinks.

yeah, makes a lot of sense, specially since you took your time to write a comment about her on this thread:laugh:

[Kazanne]

yeah, makes a lot of sense, specially since you took your time to write a comment about her on this thread:laugh:

:clap1: you got to laugh haven't you:hehe:

[ItWasJustBanter]

He never was the innocent hero, in fact he wasn't a hero at all for me.

He firstly got huffed and angry with Nikki in the bunker, she even had to go over and try to console him after he had moaned in the diary room too.

Then he cowardly always tried to backtrack from the noms they made,blaming the others for the decisions as if he had nothing at all to do with any of them really.

He then hammered Helen and Marc fro Jade being nominated when in fact it was Helen and Nikki who led the nominations of Jade.

He met someone and 2 days later was in bed with them and almost talking about them as a 'girlfriend'.really odd that to me.

He wanted to leave early on after going in, then decided not to once he got into an involvement with Jade.

Jade gets evicted, then he starts his really bad temper again, taking off and bizarrely throwing shoes behind him,what was that all about.
Then come the big one, his major confrontation with Helen and her 'wrong' terminologies she used at him, however in my thoughts as in others, who were looking at him, I wondered, from his really smouldering and sinister expressions,just what would he possibly do to her if there were no cameras on them and they were alone.

Then he clearly must have known, that he unjustifiably attacked Marc,especially as to Jade,
Which soon afterwards saw him cowardly not go and sound off to BB as he had regularly done before but go and draw attention to himself by climbing over a wall, to what I still say was a very 'conveniently placed' ladder.

Making way firstly for Aisleyne to have a place in the house by his leaving and also to leave the blame for his going on Helen and Marc because of the arguments, which he actually often started too.

All that done,I firmly believe, because he wanted to follow Jade,had she not been evicted,he would never have gone anywhere,or wanted to, no matter what was going on in the house.

To me he showed himself up bigtime, he came across as cowardly and a wimp and also he did look really sinister in that argument and he could come out with some vile stuff of his own when it suited him too.
Good riddance to him,he was painted the better guy by BB in all aspects of 'conflicts' in the house but as is often the case, were we to be ever able to see all the goings on, the realities may be very different indeed.

I would now believe Helen more than Brian.
Because she has demonstrated rightly and wrongly, she is basically honest,he backtracked on so much,despite the cameras, that he is the one more likely to be doubted as to his version of events.

A hero,not in my book.

He's made a career out of showcasing himself to be a complete gormless moron. Why would they take his opinion into account anyway?

"Oh I know, let's listen to what the idiot suggests"

[camertone]

and at the same time, emma had nothing but praise for brian, nikki, danny and aislene. emma just ignored all the horrible things they said and done. bias ruined the show. and complete inference and meddling, frequent outside contact and information.

[sungrass]

in the clip, Brian explains the frozen duck is a well known joke and has been on a previous BB. Helen also tells him to do it again in the house?? intimdated NOPE. Marc was in shock - that was funny, but when Brian explains it later he seems more relaxed about it he just said the timing was wrong. But Helen does as Brian to do it again in the house.

[sungrass]

BB Austrailia. Brian watches them all.

[joeysteele]

and at the same time, emma had nothing but praise for brian, nikki, danny and aislene. emma just ignored all the horrible things they said and done. bias ruined the show. and complete inference and meddling, frequent outside contact and information.

Emma has been really bad this series, now she is getting all Miss high and mighty at the viewers for daring to criticise the bias she has shown, same with Rylan.

It seems Emma and Rylan in their new comfortable BB roles, only want to hear from BB fans when they are agreeing with them.

I never hold with personal abuse of a presenter or insults but I will say as a BB fan since I was 10, 13 years ago now, Emma and Rylan have infuriated me at times with their bias.
Emma treated Helen like she should never been in the house again,while showering Aisleyne with all praise.
Then Rylan on bbbots allowed for over a week a massive hatchet job to be done on Marc and never once tried to balance it out at all.

Emma's interviews have become really bad now.Attacking the fans is extraordinary from her too.
She and Rylan get to say what they like on the TV,the fans have a right to express their anger and disgust too.

[ItWasJustBanter]

in the clip, Brian explains the frozen duck is a well known joke and has been on a previous BB. Helen also tells him to do it again in the house?? intimdated NOPE. Marc was in shock - that was funny, but when Brian explains it later he seems more relaxed about it he just said the timing was wrong. But Helen does as Brian to do it again in the house.

It's not really a well known joke if he has to explain it.

[MrWong]

Helen revealed in her interview that she was scared of Brian whilst living with him in the time warp Bunker.


Brian took all his clothes off and she found it to be inappropriate, scary and to the point where she felt she had to go along with it just to NOT enrage him further.


Helen was scared a LOT.

So scared that she asked him to repeat it again in the main house :whistle:

[BB4fan]

So scared that she asked him to repeat it again in the main house :whistle:

I already explained about that in one of my posts. Helen had to act like she was going along with it to NOT enrage him further.

She had to pretend to be ok with it because she didn't want to let him know how much he scared the poor woman.

[BB4fan]

It's not really a well known joke if he has to explain it.

It's not a joke at all. It was probably his excuse to expose himself to a woman.

[Withano]

There's a clip on the Bb website of Helen encouraging the naked duck thing. She's just being bitter.

[Glenn.]

I already explained about that in one of my posts. Helen had to act like she was going along with it to NOT enrage him further.

She had to pretend to be ok with it because she didn't want to let him know how much he scared the poor woman.

The delusion is real

[BigBuk]

Nobody knows for certain if he made Helen feel uncomfortable or not, only she knows. People acting like they're right on both sides don't know for certain, so you're either protecting a liar or bashing a female that did feel uncomfortable with Brian's actions. Nobody knows but her.

[BB4fan]

There's a clip on the Bb website of Helen encouraging the naked duck thing. She's just being bitter.

I know that but she was scared and didn't wanna let on so she pretended to like it so he wouldn't flip at her.

[BB4fan]

The delusion is real

How very convenient that he used the old frozen duck excuse to get away with exposing his genitals.

Let's see if he uses the excuse when he does it in the streets to another innocent woman minding her own business.:nono:

[Withano]

I know that but she was scared and didn't wanna let on so she pretended to like it so he wouldn't flip at her.

She wasn't scared, she was just asked by the paper to make any sort of excuse for her vile behaviour so that they could keep her in the job. She chose to pick on Brian, probably because she didn't know there was evidence of her encouraging Brian on the BB website.

[BB4fan]

She wasn't scared, she was just asked by the paper to make any sort of excuse for her vile behaviour so that they could keep her in the job. She chose to pick on Brian, probably because she didn't know there was evidence of her encouraging Brian on the BB website.

How could you tell if she wasn't scared or not...??? She encouraged it so he didn't suspect her fear within and let's not pretend that Brian taking his clothes off in front of woman can be excused as a form of laughter.

That man can't just run around the country and strip off to some innocent young woman minding her own business walking along then claim it was the Frozen duck.

Just because he's Brian Bello doesn't mean he can run around doing what he wants, then try and pull of the dopey Essex lad persona.

[Withano]

How could you tell if she wasn't scared or not...??? She encouraged it so he didn't suspect her fear within and let's not pretend that Brian taking his clothes off in front of woman can be excused as a form of laughter.

That man can't just run around the country and strip off to some innocent young woman minding her own business walking along then claim it was the Frozen duck.

Just because he's Brian Bello doesn't mean he can run around doing what he wants, then try and pull of the dopey Essex lad persona.

Ask yourself the same question.. You seem to have given yourself an answer.. Its Helen Woods... If she thought something was inappropriate, she would say. She's just trying to save her arse with bull**** and it is brutally transparent, she's got you fooled, so job done really, fair play to her. But if you're ready to ignore hard facts just because shes backtracing then you're beyond a rational conversation.

[BB4fan]

Ask yourself the same question.. You seem to have given yourself an answer.. Its Helen Woods... If she thought something was inappropriate, she would say. She's just trying to save her arse with bull**** and it is brutally transparent, she's got you fooled, so job done really, fair play to her. But if you're ready to ignore hard facts just because shes backtracing then you're beyond a rational conversation.

If you say so, but it's something I'm sure would get the attention of the police had any other man done it to a woman. Call it what you like but I call it indecent exposure and he used his frozen duck rubbish to expose himself to Helen.

The man clearly has anger issues as well. His temper in that house was beyond controllable and put his violent outbursts along with his punching walls, throwing shoes around the house, and his stripping off naked to woman and the pattern shows a deeply disturbed brute.

[BENDERBOY]

Utter nonsense of a thread.

[MrWong]

I already explained about that in one of my posts. Helen had to act like she was going along with it to NOT enrage him further.

She had to pretend to be ok with it because she didn't want to let him know how much he scared the poor woman.

Enrage him further? He wasn't enraged. She wasn't scared either.

She twisted the situation to try and justify her own nasty behaviour. Nothing more.

[BigBuk]

Enrage him further? He wasn't enraged. She wasn't scared either.

She twisted the situation to try and justify her own nasty behaviour. Nothing more.

You do not know if she was scared or not and same goes to the other person.

[MrWong]

You do not know if she was scared or not and same goes to the other person.

Lets go by her character. As if Helen was scared of Brian doing the frozen duck. She would have called him out there and then.

Never mind the fact that at that point there was no beef between Helen and Brian.

From Brian's point of view, if he genuinely wanted to intimidate Helen, why would he use the frozen duck to do it when it got a very positive reaction in BBAus, where he got the idea from.

[BigBuk]

Lets go by her character. As if Helen was scared of Brian doing the frozen duck. She would have called him out there and then.

Never mind the fact that at that point there was no beef between Helen and Brian.

From Brian's point of view, if he genuinely wanted to intimidate Helen, why would he use the frozen duck to do it when it got a very positive reaction in BBAus, where he got the idea from.

Helen's character shouldn't even come into play, what Brian done was inappropriate, if Helen had been an innocent younger female they would have been outrage but people just assume Helen is lying because it's her.

She could be lying, I don't know and neither do you.

Just picture this, Chris from last year does the exact same thing to Ashley. I guarantee he would have been kicked out... Doesn't matter what Helen's characteristics are.

[billy123]

Lets face it Helen lost the game and took out Marc in the process.. Game set and Match to everyone except Marc and Helen get over it and have a pint. :wavey:

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[MrWong]

Helen's character shouldn't even come into play, what Brian done was inappropriate, if Helen had been an innocent younger female they would have been outrage but people just assume Helen is lying because it's her.

She could be lying, I don't know and neither do you.

Just picture this, Chris from last year does the exact same thing to Ashley. I guarantee he would have been kicked out... Doesn't matter what Helen's characteristics are.

Helen's character shouldn't come into play but a made up scenario involving Chris and Ashleigh should?

There was zero outrage when the clip was put online.
Nothing was shown about Helen being outraged/scared at the time.
Nothing was thrown at Brian during the many arguments with Helen, pertaining to the frozen duck incident.

I'd say she's lying. She's got form. Remember when Chris and Ashleigh were saying really nice things about Helen while she's was ear wigging behind the door?

In Helen's twisted re-telling of the incident she made out that they were vile about her.

[Fendertele]

So if any-one was in the 'work-place' (and after all they were there doing a 'Job'), and a man suddenly stripped off and bent over, would you not have reported him to the manager, yes I believe any-one would, we do have indecent exposure laws in this country, because Brian done it, it's OK, well NO, you can't have a law for one and a law for another. Put it this way if your Daughter came home from work or anywhere and was visibly distressed and told you that a man had been exposing himself in an indecent way to her, would you just laugh it off???...

[BigBuk]

Helen's character shouldn't come into play but a made up scenario involving Chris and Ashleigh should?

There was zero outrage when the clip was put online.
Nothing was shown about Helen being outraged/scared at the time.
Nothing was thrown at Brian during the many arguments with Helen, pertaining to the frozen duck incident.

I'd say she's lying. She's got form. Remember when Chris and Ashleigh were saying really nice things about Helen while she's was ear wigging behind the door?

In Helen's twisted re-telling of the incident she made out that they were vile about her.

Yes, the two are totally different. You're using someones characteristics to make out they're lying about being scared of someone, all I've done is make up a hypothetical situation, how is that even similar?

Again there would have been zero outrage as like I've said Helen comes off thick skinned, you'd think she'd be less bothered due to the persona you see from her. Doesn't mean she wasn't scared or uncomfortable. Maybe she showed no emotion to it as that's how she deals with things that make her uncomfortable. Maybe she didn't want to bring it up in front of all the other HMs.

I'm not saying I'm right here, all I'm saying is you don't know because you're not her.

I remember that incident, she caught a part of them talking, which easily could have been perceived as them bitching about her. She walked in at the wrong time. The bit she heard did sound like bitching so she thought they were and tbqh who could blame her thinking that? Majority of the highlights from Chris and Ashleigh from that series was them bitching about other HMs in the tower (whatever it was called, idk).

[JeanP!]

Lets face it Helen lost the game and took out Marc in the process.. Game set and Match to everyone except Marc and Helen get over it and have a pint. :wavey:

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Yeah, because there was something in for her to win this time, being just a special guest not eligible for the prize :laugh::laugh::laugh:

Now I understand the need for her haters to twist everything around after the trauma of not being able to stop the Winner of Big Brother 2014 from taking the triumph last year :cheer2: . Must have been hard

Out of all comments I have to admit this one made me laugh the most. :laugh:

Thank you

[billy123]

Yeah, because there was something in for her to win this time, being just a special guest not eligible for the prize :laugh::laugh::laugh:

Now I understand the need for her haters to twist everything around after the trauma of not being able to stop the Winner of Big Brother 2014 from taking the triumph last year :cheer2: . Must have been hard

Out of all comments I have to admit this one made me laugh the most. :laugh:

Thank youI wanted Helen to win last year though. Not because i thought she had anything to offer to society but just because she was a better option than that spiteful face screwing little blonde thing. (i forget her name)

[BigBuk]

I wanted Helen to win last year though. Not because i thought she had anything to offer to society but just because she was a better option than that spiteful face screwing little blonde thing. (i forget her name)

Ashleigh, it's understandable you forgot her name.

[billy123]

Ashleigh, it's understandable you forgot her name.Thats the one. She pulled faces so full of spite and hate. She made Helen look normal.