Anyone with examples of Marc antagonizing Brian post them here

[Griffin5779]

Anyone with examples of Marc antagonizing Brian post them here

I'm especially interested in any examples that show he irritated Brian more then the other housemates)

I saw Brian whining and complaining in the Diary room, I saw Brian being really nasty and bitchy about Helen and and marc behind their back, and I saw several arguments. most of the arguments where started by Brian and he was loud, aggressive and nasty in all of them..aside from from the one time helen made those inappropriate comments (which marc disagreed with seconds after they passed her lips) i saw very little that either of the two did aimed at Brian.

yet still every show is people repeating the same "you antagonized brian" comment..over and over...and i've yet to see a housemate, a guest or anyone on the forum give a concrete example. in fact i've seen several make comments like ' well i didn't see but you must have' or ' he went over the wall you must have'

it is incredible frustrating for me...imagine what it must be like for marc..in the house..unable to see how its been presented on tv..and having to defend himself against claims when no one can give him examples..

and then he gets comments like "well its over now just let it go"

"yes you have been convicted of murder and no one has given any proof (beside you look like a murder)..but you should just let it go, spend your 20 years in jail and except being branded as killer the rest of your life"

please provide ME examples of marc antagonizing Brian so i can move on

[Gusto Brunt]

I think I'm with Marc and Harry here. I can't recall any instances.

I only recall Helen upsetting Brian, but I recall Brian shouting at Marc.

[Livia]

I remember Marc saying stuff to Brian although I can't remember what was said. I'm sure they'll play it back for him when he's evicted, let's hope that's not too long. Mind you, he said an awful lot more behind Brian's back, that I do remember.

[ItWasJustBanter]

I remember Marc saying stuff to Brian although I can't remember what was said. I'm sure they'll play it back for him when he's evicted, let's hope that's not too long. Mind you, he said an awful lot more behind Brian's back, that I do remember.

OK there is a big difference between trading insults and antagonizing. If Marc antagonized Brian then it was a two way street.

Also, if Marc retires to the diary room and says something about Brian then how the hell is that antagonistic towards Brian?

I started a similar thread yesterday and no one could respond with a scenario where he antagonized Brian.

From where I was watching, Brian would go from zero to overboard in 2.6 seconds, turning every disagreement into a fully fledged argument. He is most definitely unhinged. As Charley said, he's a grown up he should be able to fight his own battles.

[Vicky.]

He continually challenged lies that were being spread about him

He grinned or laughed when Brian started going OTT in arguments

He dared answer back when Brian dragged his name into an argument

He called Brian a psycho while he was behaving erratically

And he splashed him in the pool...

Hope this answers your question

[Kazanne]

He continually challenged lies that were being spread about him

He grinned or laughed when Brian started going OTT in arguments

He dared answer back when Brian dragged his name into an argument

He called Brian a psycho while he was behaving erratically

And he splashed him in the pool...

Hope this answers your question

I must have missd the splashing in the pool,was Brian annoyed because he got a bit wet?

[JTM45]

Anyone who's been watching will have seen what's been going on and if you're in the mindframe that what you saw didn't qualify as Mark antagonizing Brian then what's the point of anyone telling you otherwise?
There is clearly differing opinions and nobody is going to change their whole outlook on how they perceived someone's behaviour so there is absolutely no point in anyone listing examples for you!:idc:

[erinp5]

Calling him a psycho...does Mark forget BB spoke to him about it after Helen got a her warning.

[ItWasJustBanter]

Calling him a psycho...does Mark forget BB spoke to him about it after Helen got a her warning.

it goes both ways buddy.

If that's the case then Marc was being antagonized too. Brian started the name calling.

[erinp5]

it goes both ways buddy.

If that's the case then Marc was being antagonized too. Brian started the name calling.

BB gave had to speak with Mark , the poster asked for examples of when he antagonised Brian ...I gave one . Mark has goaded most if not all Hms , that's what he does. Mark did tell the housemates that he did go out his way to provoke Brain because Mark accused Brian of telling the Hms 3 lies about him .

[Tarryn]

With regards to Brian Helen did 90% of the horrible stuff.
Most of which were very personal & nasty.
I think what annoys people with Marc is the absolute joy he seemed to show when Helen was saying it. Especially with the Murderer/Rapist comments.
Marc is losing his temper because he wants specifics but no one can give them to him where Brian is concerned.
Most HM's are using Brian to vent their anger at Marc's attacks on them individually.
I wish the HM's would stand up to him & be honest but most of them still look to scared to do that.

[marlobrando2]

Marc never did this.Brian jumped over the wall as BB staged plan with a convenient ladder at the other side waiting for him.:sleep:

[Griffin5779]

I remember Marc saying stuff to Brian although I can't remember what was said. I'm sure they'll play it back for him when he's evicted, let's hope that's not too long. Mind you, he said an awful lot more behind Brian's back, that I do remember.

you remember..but you can't remember...

so no examples then? yeah he told brian he way lying..which brian was..such as blaming marc for nominating jade when it was his friend nicki who was the deciding vote .. yes he made comments back when brian said nasty things..

bitching behind his back..do you recall this one "he is an attention seeking little lowlife scumbag prick" i recall it .. brian about marc

[ItWasJustBanter]

BB gave had to speak with Mark , the poster asked for examples of when he antagonised Brian ...I gave one . Mark has goaded most if not all Hms , that's what he does. Mark did tell the housemates that he did go out his way to provoke Brain because Mark accused Brian of telling the Hms 3 lies about him .

They would have had to speak to Brian too except he hightailed it over the wall like the piece of **** he is.

If you want to get up in arms about antagonization, have a look at what Danny's doing to Mark now.

Brian is a violent bully. Glad he's gone but the lies he spread have torn the house down around Marc.

[Griffin5779]

Anyone who's been watching will have seen what's been going on and if you're in the mindframe that what you saw didn't qualify as Mark antagonizing Brian then what's the point of anyone telling you otherwise?
There is clearly differing opinions and nobody is going to change their whole outlook on how they perceived someone's behaviour so there is absolutely no point in anyone listing examples for you!:idc:

so no examples..thanks anyway

[Kazanne]

Calling him a psycho...does Mark forget BB spoke to him about it after Helen got a her warning.

The psycho one is a funny one as Ziggy was calling Charley that in their BB and it was acceptable,and is psycho so bad? I know a lot of people that say it,plus Brian was also calling them names so not sure that one is antagonising.

[Ashley.]

You've got to take into account that we don't see the full 24 hours of Big Brother, just 45 minutes. I know that's pretty cliché but it's very true. He may have well of antagonised Brian and Brian may have well of antagonised him back, but it's something we just have to take with a pinch of salt.

[MrWong]

Day 44 - Marc hauled into the diary room and given a warning for offensive language towards Brian.

[Fendertele]

I must have missd the splashing in the pool,was Brian annoyed because he got a bit wet?

Brian then demands his straighteners, and some 'Frizz-ease' because a bit of pool water splashed on his hair...:bawling:

[Tarryn]

They would have had to speak to Brian too except he hightailed it over the wall like the piece of **** he is.

If you want to get up in arms about antagonization, have a look at what Danny's doing to Mark now.

Brian is a violent bully. Glad he's gone but the lies he spread have torn the house down around Marc.

How was Brian & bully ?.
If he is then Marc is.

[Vicky.]

Day 44 - Marc hauled into the diary room and given a warning for offensive language towards Brian.

Calling someone a psycho in an argument is not antagonizing behaviour...its saying something in an argument...

Helens warning I completely understood (infact I was surprised it was just warning)

Marcs seemed completely random. I didn't realise calling someone a psycho was so offensive :D

[Griffin5779]

With regards to Brian Helen did 90% of the horrible stuff.
Most of which were very personal & nasty.
I think what annoys people with Marc is the absolute joy he seemed to show when Helen was saying it. Especially with the Murderer/Rapist comments.
Marc is losing his temper because he wants specifics but no one can give them to him where Brian is concerned.
Most HM's are using Brian to vent their anger at Marc's attacks on them individually.
I wish the HM's would stand up to him & be honest but most of them still look to scared to do that.

i don't recall this..he distanced himself from the comments .. he said he disagreed with them..while brian repeated them over and over making himself look more the victim

[Vicky.]

Oh for gods sake..Brian is not a bully either. I am so ****ing sick of this word.

[Ashley.]

Calling someone a psycho in an argument is not antagonizing behaviour...its saying something in an argument...

Helens warning I completely understood (infact I was surprised it was just warning)

Marcs seemed completely random. I didn't realise calling someone a psycho was so offensive :D

I think Channel 5 are trying a little too hard to please Ofcom. That's why they keep interrupting arguments and food fights, so they don't have to deal with the complaints if it gets out of hand.

[Vicky.]

i don't recall this..he distanced himself from the comments .. he said he disagreed with them..while brian repeated them over and over making himself look more the victim

He also told her to calm down..

Which some have for some reason interpreted as him saying 'don't calm down' which makes absolutely no sense. 'Keep going' or something, but when have you ever heard 'don't calm down' be said in support while someone is having an argument :joker:

[Tarryn]

Oh for gods sake..Brian is not a bully either. I am so ****ing sick of this word.
Exactly.

[ItWasJustBanter]

How was Brian & bully ?.
If he is then Marc is.

He constantly lied about Marc in there even though the facts were there for everyone to see.

He went from 0 to psycho in any discussion that showed it might get heated.

A disgusting human. The frozen duck is probably the highlight of his career. Imagine that.

[Ashley.]

He constantly lied about Marc in there even though the facts were there for everyone to see.

He went from 0 to psycho in any discussion that showed it might get heated.

A disgusting human. The frozen duck is probably the highlight of his career. Imagine that.

We know it's not the real Brian though. I'd probably go crazy in that house too. You'll see the real Brian if you go back and watch Big Brother 8 and his appearances on spin-off shows thereafter.

[MrWong]

Calling someone a psycho in an argument is not antagonizing behaviour...its saying something in an argument...

Helens warning I completely understood (infact I was surprised it was just warning)

Marcs seemed completely random. I didn't realise calling someone a psycho was so offensive :D

Who knows what else was said.

Also those insults were hurled at Brian when he was already visibly upset at the rapist/murderer insults.

[Vicky.]

I think Channel 5 are trying a little too hard to please Ofcom. That's why they keep interrupting arguments and food fights, so they don't have to deal with the complaints if it gets out of hand.

Yet funnily enough, they have yet to interrupt one of Dannys outbursts. And they never got involved during the actual arguments, only afterwards. A few times Helen/Brian/sometimes Marc seemed slightly...volatile. Yet it was left. I know its reality TV and as such it should feature proper arguments, but if they can have a hissy fit over things such as someone getting in a suitcase, or chasing someone else around the garden and come over the tannoy, I am sure a sharp 'can housemates calm down' would be fine. Especially right after Helen went in with the rapist/murderer thing.

I do agree they are scared of ofcom, I also think theyr egret having to chuck Aaron out.

[Tarryn]

i don't recall this..he distanced himself from the comments .. he said he disagreed with them..while brian repeated them over and over making himself look more the victim

Watch again. He was practically pissing himself with delight.
I detest Marc but I am standing up for him with regards to last night episode.
Most of the Brian saga was Helen's fault.
No person in that house had the guts to really stand up to her about what she did/said so they are placing it all on Marc.

[Kazanne]

Brian then demands his straighteners, and some 'Frizz-ease' because a bit of pool water splashed on his hair...:bawling:

:joker::joker:

[Tarryn]

He constantly lied about Marc in there even though the facts were there for everyone to see.

He went from 0 to psycho in any discussion that showed it might get heated.

A disgusting human. The frozen duck is probably the highlight of his career. Imagine that.

And Marc never get's angry does he :shrug:
And covering his private parts in foil is probably the highlight of Marc's.

[erinp5]

They would have had to speak to Brian too except he hightailed it over the wall like the piece of **** he is.

If you want to get up in arms about antagonization, have a look at what Danny's doing to Mark now.

Brian is a violent bully. Glad he's gone but the lies he spread have torn the house down around Marc.

Who's up in arms ?
What's Danny got to do with this thread... different debate? for the record is Danny aggressive ..yes , should he be removed ...yes, three times he has went face to face with a Hm (Mark) and two warning should mean third time ...OUT imho
:shrug:

[Griffin5779]

Day 44 - Marc hauled into the diary room and given a warning for offensive language towards Brian.

yes..after brian whined to bb..went over the wall..and they felt they had to cover their ass against blow back from brian fans and possible law suit by brian..

you know how bb always reads back the offensive thing said? what did they have to read back to marc .. you called him a psycho..thats it...

people use the word psycho all time "my girlfriend is a psycho" it is not the horrible offense people make it out to be...it simply was all bb had

[Griffin5779]

And Marc never get's angry does he :shrug:
And covering his private parts in foil is probably the highlight of Marc's.

to he get angry to the extent brian did?..not in my opinion..but if the best you do is say "they both got angry" then there is no justification to make brian was antaninized or bullyed

[Tarryn]

to he get angry to the extent brian did?..not in my opinion..but if the best you do is say "they both got angry" then there is no justification to make brian was antaninized or bullyed

You got the wrong person.
I never said he was either...............at least by Marc.

[Griffin5779]

Watch again. He was practically pissing himself with delight.
I detest Marc but I am standing up for him with regards to last night episode.
Most of the Brian saga was Helen's fault.
No person in that house had the guts to really stand up to her about what she did/said so they are placing it all on Marc.

i actually just did..every gets in an uproar and he turns around face them and raises his arms a little as if to say calm down and that's it..

[MrWong]

yes..after brian whined to bb..went over the wall..and they felt they had to cover their ass against blow back from brian fans and possible law suit by brian..

you know how bb always reads back the offensive thing said? what did they have to read back to marc .. you called him a psycho..thats it...

people use the word psycho all time "my girlfriend is a psycho" it is not the horrible offense people make it out to be...it simply was all bb had

He was obviously goading Brian, when it was already clear that the rapist/murderer insults had upset him.

[Griffin5779]

He was obviously goading Brian, when it was already clear that the rapist/murderer insults had upset him.

wasn't obvious to me..he was also repeated telling to calm do..you really brian.."when i get called a murder and rapist don't tell me calm do" what you call goading..i call trying to point out brian was acting crazy.


anyway...that 1 incident..occurred at the end of the whole affair..after brian claims he was antagonized for day..and i haven't seen examples of it

[Griffin5779]

You've got to take into account that we don't see the full 24 hours of Big Brother, just 45 minutes. I know that's pretty cliché but it's very true. He may have well of antagonised Brian and Brian may have well of antagonised him back, but it's something we just have to take with a pinch of salt.

so still..no examples from the house mates..no examples from the guest..not shown by bb..and all anyone can site is "brian said it so its true"

[Griffin5779]

Who knows what else was said.

Also those insults were hurled at Brian when he was already visibly upset at the rapist/murderer insults.

yes and shortly after he used demeaning language toward helen and called her a scumbag 3 times..imagine the gaul of someone responding to that with an insult of their own

[MrWong]

wasn't obvious to me..he was also repeated telling to calm do..you really brian.."when i get called a murder and rapist don't tell me calm do" what you call goading..i call trying to point out brian was acting crazy.


anyway...that 1 incident..occurred at the end of the whole affair..after brian claims he was antagonized for day..and i haven't seen examples of it

He was clearly goading him. Calling someone a psycho is nothing like asking someone to calm down.

[ItWasJustBanter]

Other way round I'm afraid. Brian was clearly goading Marc.

[Griffin5779]

He was clearly goading him. Calling someone a psycho is nothing like asking someone to calm down.

he was not goading him...you don't repeated try to calm someone then intentionly try to goad them..your interpretation doesn't make logical sense

[MrWong]

yes and shortly after he used demeaning language toward helen and called her a scumbag 3 times..imagine the gaul of someone responding to that with an insult of their own

He was irate, with good reason.

If some gobby chav said I looked like a rapist/murderer and then her little lapdog chimed in with psycho comments I'd use demeaning language also.

[MrWong]

he was not goading him...you don't repeated try to calm someone then intentionly try to goad them..your interpretation doesn't make logical sense

You're the one not making sense.

Calling someone a psycho is hardly going to calm someone down.

[ItWasJustBanter]

http://static.tellymix.co.uk/ts/800/450/www.tellymix.co.uk/files/2015/06/bb-brian-1.jpg

Excyowse moi. Oi would loike too 'av a reasoned debate.

[Livia]

Marc isn't well-liked in the house, they mostly seem to find him antagonistic. That's because they're living with him and not seeing 50 minutes of edited footage every night.

[cassieparis]

http://static.tellymix.co.uk/ts/800/450/www.tellymix.co.uk/files/2015/06/bb-brian-1.jpg

Excyowse moi. Oi would loike too 'av a reasoned debate.

You know that "reads" :joker: ............just like Marc :joker:

[Griffin5779]

He was irate, with good reason.

If some gobby chav said I looked like a rapist/murderer and then her little lapdog chimed in with psycho comments I'd use demeaning language also.

i said he used it before..but i guess the excuse is "i knew she was going to say i lookeg like a murder"

[Griffin5779]

Marc isn't well-liked in the house, they mostly seem to find him antagonistic. That's because they're living with him and not seeing 50 minutes of edited footage every night.

antagonistic? you mean irritating? i'm sure he is...how many have scaled the walls?

still..no examples of marc antagonizing brian

[JamesBond]

http://static.tellymix.co.uk/ts/800/450/www.tellymix.co.uk/files/2015/06/bb-brian-1.jpg

Excyowse moi. Oi would loike too 'av a reasoned debate.

Look on Nicks face says it all, he's like Brian just calm down man.

[sosadbbend]

Anyone with examples of Marc antagonizing Brian post them here

I'm especially interested in any examples that show he irritated Brian more then the other housemates)

I saw Brian whining and complaining in the Diary room, I saw Brian being really nasty and bitchy about Helen and and marc behind their back, and I saw several arguments. most of the arguments where started by Brian and he was loud, aggressive and nasty in all of them..aside from from the one time helen made those inappropriate comments (which marc disagreed with seconds after they passed her lips) i saw very little that either of the two did aimed at Brian.

yet still every show is people repeating the same "you antagonized brian" comment..over and over...and i've yet to see a housemate, a guest or anyone on the forum give a concrete example. in fact i've seen several make comments like ' well i didn't see but you must have' or ' he went over the wall you must have'

it is incredible frustrating for me...imagine what it must be like for marc..in the house..unable to see how its been presented on tv..and having to defend himself against claims when no one can give him examples..

and then he gets comments like "well its over now just let it go"

"yes you have been convicted of murder and no one has given any proof (beside you look like a murder)..but you should just let it go, spend your 20 years in jail and except being branded as killer the rest of your life"

please provide ME examples of marc antagonizing Brian so i can move on

I'm not wasting my time trawling through old episodes but you can and then you will have your examples.

[the truth]

he called brian a psycho several times, he swore at him umpteen times, he was warned by big brother for swearing and being abusive to brian, he encouraged Helen bullying brian, he sad nothing when she said he looked like a rapist psycho murderer....only later did he claim he didn't agree with her....that's just off the top of my head. hes goaded people all the time calling jade and ashleyne liars when he didn't have a clue what he was on about....jade is a model so marc was lying there....ashleynes affairs on judge reiner is none of marcs business again he called her a liar. he insulted some of the girls the minute he walked in, accusing one girl of having sexually transmitted diseases etc etc what an ignorant lying deluded ignorant bullying bore

[Griffin5779]

I'm not wasting my time trawling through old episodes but you can and then you will have your examples.

so no example then..thank you

[Jannigran]

Great post griffin, I've been screaming at the telly for those that keep bringing it up to back this accusation with an example , and they can't so I'm not hopeful that you'll find your answer here but thanks for trying.

[Griffin5779]

he called brian a psycho several times, he swore at him umpteen times, he was warned by big brother for swearing and being abusive to brian, he encouraged Helen bullying brian, he sad nothing when she said he looked like a rapist psycho murderer....only later did he claim he didn't agree with her....that's just off the top of my head. hes goaded people all the time calling jade and ashleyne liars when he didn't have a clue what he was on about....jade is a model so marc was lying there....ashleynes affairs on judge reiner is none of marcs business again he called her a liar. he insulted some of the girls the minute he walked in, accusing one girl of having sexually transmitted diseases etc etc what an ignorant lying deluded ignorant bullying bore

the only thing you listed that could be remotely called an example of anything is the psycho comment.psycho is informal for crazy..and people say "you are crazy" all the time..marc was hardly making a diagnosis of a mental illness and that comment only occurred well after brian started his victim game and blew up yelling aggressively. marc was only warned by bb cause they had to cover their ass from brian fans as a possible lawsuit when he went over the wall and psycho was the only thing they could find. that and brain said said they made him feel bullyed..do you think if marc made a similar clain danny would be warned? and there are more then i example of people getting right up in marcs face and yelling at him.

he never encouraged her to bully he told her repeatedly to calm down but if you have EXAMPLES of this feel free to share.

no..he didn't immediately scream over her comment..he stood up and turned around to calm the other housemate who were all in an uproar but he took the first chance to distance himself.

he swore..in arguements..when brian became enraged and swore as well

[sungrass]

Personally I want Marc to win. He has been the only entetaining out of the ones left. I think its pretty simple that people who dont 'get' Brians perspective - never saw his series in 2007. So I can imagine what he looks like to them - and its not good but to people who know him, know its genuine. I havent watched every epidode for a while now - only the odd few a week. I missed that Harry saw Helen called a fooking red eyed rodent - I know the HM's were intimidated by Helen.

All in all though no one is going to change anyones mind and we really could do with livefeed!

[Miss Nicole]

If Brian said he felt antagonised then that's all that matters .

[BB4fan]

Brian started on Marc ALL the time. We only have to rewatch the hour show to see who caused what.


That loud mouthed Brian kept on and on.

[Miss Nicole]

If Brian felt antagonised he was being antagonized, that's no doubt why bb gave Marc and Helen a warning , maybe you can't quantify something like that , so giving examples is irrelevant .

[BB4fan]

If Brian said he felt antagonised then that's all that matters .

Of course, so if he murdered someone just as long as he felt antagonized then that's all the matters.:rolleyes::umm2::umm2::idc:

[Fendertele]

http://static.tellymix.co.uk/ts/800/450/www.tellymix.co.uk/files/2015/06/bb-brian-1.jpg



'You know you've got my f---ing straighteners!, give 'em back now!, you're making me look like a right Psycho with-out 'em!'

[Nancy.]

Griffin and BB4 fan, I agree with everything you've said in here, Well done. Too bad nobody has given you any examples yet but I expected it tbh..

[BB4fan]

If Brian felt antagonised he was being antagonized, that's no doubt why bb gave Marc and Helen a warning , maybe you can't quantify something like that , so giving examples is irrelevant .

You don't think had Brian stayed that he wouldn't have got a warning...??? Or ejected.

He took all his clothes off and Helen felt terrified. She didn't want to enrage him further just read the poor woman's column.

[Miss Nicole]

Of course, so if he murdered someone just as long as he felt antagonized then that's all the matters.:rolleyes::umm2::umm2::idc:

He didn't murder anyone so that's not relevant.

[BB4fan]

He didn't murder anyone so that's not relevant.

My point is any idiot can cause an argument then run to the diary room with fake tears playing the victim just like Brian.

[Miss Nicole]

You don't think had Brian stayed that he wouldn't have got a warning...??? Or ejected.

He took all his clothes off and Helen felt terrified. She didn't want to enrage him further just read the poor woman's column.

I can't talk about what might have happened, all I can say is if Brian felt antagonised then that's it and no amount of collecting times and dates and incidents will change that .

[BB4fan]

I can't talk about what might have happened, all I can say is if Brian felt antagonised then that's it and no amount of collecting times and dates and incidents will change that .

But lets be honest here he looked for it time and time again with both Helen and Marc.

Helen did make remarks YES, but with Marc Brian just simply went for him constantly, then played victim simply because Marc wass friends with Helen. His bad temper would indicate to me that he never felt the least bit antagonized.

[AnnieK]

You don't think had Brian stayed that he wouldn't have got a warning...??? Or ejected.

He took all his clothes off and Helen felt terrified. She didn't want to enrage him further just read the poor woman's column.

How do you know that Helen was terrified? Because she said so. As Brian said he felt antagonised. Can't have one rule for one and another for the other. I am in no way saying Helen wasn't if that's what she said but if that's the case then it follows that equally Brian could feel antagonised about something he experienced

[Miss Nicole]

My point is any idiot can cause an argument then run to the diary room with fake tears playing the victim just like Brian.

This thread is about listing examples of when Brian was antagonised, what I'm saying is regardless of what anyone thinks about any situation if Brian said he felt that way then he did .

[Miss Nicole]

But lets be honest here he looked for it time and time again with both Helen and Marc.

Helen did make remarks YES, but with Marc Brian just simply went for him constantly, then played victim simply because Marc wass friends with Helen. His bad temper would indicate to me that he never felt the least bit antagonized.

All of that is only your opinion from your perspective which you are entitled to, but you can't say some one felt or didn't feel a way just because you don't agree with it.

[Miss Nicole]

Helen said she felt scared of Brian .

Brian felt antagonised.

You can't argue either are wrong.

[BB4fan]

This thread is about listing examples of when Brian was antagonised, what I'm saying is regardless of what anyone thinks about any situation if Brian said he felt that way then he did .

Brian went in there to intentionally attack Helen just to play hero to the public but when he attacked her he also attacked Marc with no real relevant input as to what he hated them for. When he actually went at them he wasn't clever enough to outwit Helen so he went to the diary room, played victim and threw a strop blaming everything on them.


When he finally realized that the viewing public may not see him as the hero he wanted to be seen as (and his bad temper) he jumped the wall in a hissy fit, then placed the blame on them.

If your listing reasons as to why he was antagonized by Marc then post the evidence instead of just take his word for it. Re-watch the show and you'll find that it was indeed Brian who went at Helen AND attacked Marc in the process.

[BB4fan]

How do you know that Helen was terrified? Because she said so. As Brian said he felt antagonised. Can't have one rule for one and another for the other. I am in no way saying Helen wasn't if that's what she said but if that's the case then it follows that equally Brian could feel antagonised about something he experienced

The difference between Brian and Helen is that HE constantly went at them. I find it hard to believe that someone who went looking for it felt one bit antagonized.

[Miss Nicole]

The difference between Brian and Helen is that HE constantly went at them. I find it hard to believe that someone who went looking for it felt one bit antagonized.

He felt antagonized , she felt scared that's it really.
Both feelings are valid .

[rubymoo]

In one episode Marc admits that he antagonized Brian, Brian accused Marc and Helen of following him around when he was trying to stay away from them, antagonizing someone doesn't have to mean a verbal scrap, it can be a look, a snide comment that could be passed off as banter, it can be a smug look, there are many ways to antagonize a person, and how i see it is that Marc deliberately and knowingly and cleverly antagonized Brian, but we as the audience only see what BB want us to see, but nearly everyone who has gone into the house has had a problem with Marc, they can't all be wrong can they?

[sosadbbend]

so no example then..thank you

Ummm I'm not rising to the bait... are you saying all the other HM are making it all up then?

[Rorkimaru]

If Brian said he felt antagonised then that's all that matters .

If Brian felt antagonised he was being antagonized, that's no doubt why bb gave Marc and Helen a warning , maybe you can't quantify something like that , so giving examples is irrelevant .

Yes, to be antagonized is simply to be caused to become angry. You could technically be antagonized by a tree if you really hated sitka spruce. But what did Marc do to antagonize him. If Brian chooses to become antagonized when nothing is being done he is in the wrong.