Thinks having a mortgage is an achievement

[ThriceShy]

How small time is that?

[susie q]

Actually she is right, particularly for young people. Not everyone is a high earner, or has a rich relative to help them out. I think it is ridiculous to mock her, or put in this ugly twitter
piece for just stating what is a fact of life for a lot of young people.

[nonstop]

Um, for a young woman in todays economy it's actually an achievement.

[MB.]

It is. :umm2:

[Gusto Brunt]

No one I know can get a mortgage .

[andybigbro]

Surely that tweet in the op signature is fake?

[ThriceShy]

Actually she is right, particularly for young people. Not everyone is a high earner, or has a rich relative to help them out. I think it is ridiculous to mock her, or put in this ugly twitter
piece for just stating what is a fact of life for a lot of young people.

What twitter piece?

[ThriceShy]

Surely that tweet in the op signature is fake?


No it is real, apparently.

[minty3]

Getting a morgage is an achievement in my book

[ThriceShy]

Getting a morgage is an achievement in my book

Tell that to people with a portfolio of properties.:laugh:

As ambitions go, getting a mortgage is up there with "having kids" and "getting married." It is just a normal part of life.

And to think that "getting a mortgage" compares with Marc getting a university education and becoming a scientist, is laughable.

[BB1984]

Nevermind the mortgage, what really bothered me was when Chloe tried to talk to Marc about an education & Marc would not engage her.
She went into the bedroom & Aisleyne followed her inside & they seemed to be of the opinion that an education is unimportant.
John quickly told them they are being hysterical.

[Chuckyegg]

its not a real proper acheivement, like a lobotomy, a boob job and a footballer boyfriend

[Livia]

Tell that to people with a portfolio of properties.:laugh:

As ambitions go, getting a mortgage is up there with "having kids" and "getting married." It is just a normal part of life.

And to think that "getting a mortgage" compares with Marc getting a university education and becoming a scientist, is laughable.

Everyone wants different things. I don't see anything wrong in that.

[Livia]

its not a real proper acheivement, like a lobotomy, a boob job and a footballer boyfriend

LOL...

[ThriceShy]

Everyone wants different things. I don't see anything wrong in that.

Then she should respect his education and stop trying to compare her completely normal achievement with his actually quite impressive one.

[Vicky.]

Honestly, with how things are today, having a mortgage at her age IS a fantastic achievement. Hell even having a job is an achievement.

[RodHull]

I have a mortgage Im so happy im special.

Except when I consider that actually all that means is that I owe a faceless bank an amount of money it will take me most of my life to pay off it doesnt seem that special.

[ThriceShy]

Honestly, with how things are today, having a mortgage at her age IS a fantastic achievement. Hell even having a job is an achievement.

It really isn't.

Anyone with a stable job and a deposit can get a mortgage and I doubt she got the deposit herself. I reckon daddy paid for it.

A real achievement is going to college for years and becoming a scientist.

[Livia]

Then she should respect his education and stop trying to compare her completely normal achievement with his actually quite impressive one.

If it's someone's choice I don't see it as quantifiable.

[ThriceShy]

I have a mortgage Im so happy im special.

Except when I consider that actually all that means is that I owe a faceless bank an amount of money it will take me most of my life to pay off it doesnt seem that special.

Frightening isn't it. People think that being a debt slave is an achievement.

[ThriceShy]

If it's someone's choice I don't see it as quantifiable.


Exactly.

So let Marc gloat about his education achievement without having a pop at him.

[just thinkin]

Funny..the so called educated ones are having to hand back their big ego trip houses now..so yes a young girl getting a mortgage in this day and age is actually a great achievement. .doesnt anyone qatch the news.. remember you can be book smart but life thick. Books are only other peoples thoeries....life lessons are your own.

[Macie Lightfoot]

the amount of judgment being cast is absurd

[MB.]

I give up with this forum

[ThriceShy]

Funny..the so called educated ones are having to hand back their big ego trip houses now..so yes a young girl getting a mortgage in this day and age is actually a great achievement. .doesnt anyone qatch the news.. remember you can be book smart but life thick. Books are only other peoples thoeries....life lessons are your own.

You clearly haven't got my point.

I know people in their 20s who own their houses outright. I know people that age who rent out properties.

Tell them that having a mortgage is an achievement.:laugh:

[billy123]

While the rest of them consider getting fingered by a footballer in a nightclub as an achievment!
Chloe has her head screwed on getting a foot on the housing ladder is a good thing to aim for.

[ThriceShy]

While the rest of them consider getting fingered by a footballer in a nightclub as an achievment!
Chloe has her head screwed on getting a foot on the housing ladder is a good thing to aim for.

But she said it in comparison to Marc. A man who has a degree education and a job as a scientist.

She wasn't comparing herself to WAGs getting fingered.

[RodHull]

Old lispy is just a dull waste of space... for someone who wasnt bothered about his education and thought her mortgage was great she did not half go on about it A LOT...

Anyone with a half decent job can get a mortgage tbh, not everyone can pass a science degree. I couldn't and im not ashamed to admit it

[billy123]

Funny..the so called educated ones are having to hand back their big ego trip houses now..so yes a young girl getting a mortgage in this day and age is actually a great achievement. .doesnt anyone qatch the news.. remember you can be book smart but life thick. Books are only other peoples thoeries....life lessons are your own.I like that. Very true.

[Rorkimaru]

Of course it's an achievement. At 24 to have a mortgage and be settled into a home which you own is impressive, especially given the economy that surrounded her taking out the loan. It's a very impressive achievement. Most of her generation is expected to languish in tenancy hell. They can't save for a mortgage because they're paying rent.

[ThriceShy]

Of course it's an achievement. At 24 to have a mortgage and be settled into a home which you own is impressive, especially given the economy that surrounded her taking out the loan. It's a very impressive achievement. Most of her generation is expected to languish in tenancy hell. They can't save for a mortgage because they're paying rent.

Pssst.....if you have just started paying a mortgage, you don't own the home.

Chances are that her dad stumped up the deposit too.

I know 24 year olds who own a business. I know people that age who own their home outright and rent other houses out. And there are plenty of 24 year olds with first class degrees, working towards PhDs.

Paying off a huge loan to own a little house in doncaster is not an achievement.

[JoshBB]

Surely that tweet in the op signature is fake?

No it is real, apparently.

https://twitter.com/dannywisk/status/556208996210991105

it's real.

[joeysteele]

She has every right to be proud of what she sees as her achievements.
I applaud her for her determination to better herself if she can.

However, I think she also came across rather badly in the highlights tonight.

[ThriceShy]

She has every right to be proud of what she sees as her achievements.
I applaud her for her determination to better herself if she can.

However, I think she also came across rather badly in the highlights tonight.

Yet she won't let Marc be proud of his education achievments.

[RodHull]

And while we are on the point he never directed his comments at her anyway it was directed at Danny after he yet again got in Marcs face and started insulting him personally.

But like a little gang they all have jump in and be offended on each others behalfs without any context. cant stand those 3 chloe christian and Danny they are awful

[ThriceShy]

And while we are on the point he never directed his comments at her anyway it was directed at Danny after he yet again got in Marcs face and started insulting him personally.

But like a little gang they all have jump in and be offended on each others behalfs without any context. cant stand those 3 chloe christian and Danny they are awful


:worship:

[Rorkimaru]

Pssst.....if you have just started paying a mortgage, you don't own the home.

Chances are that her dad stumped up the deposit too.

I know 24 year olds who own a business. I know people that age who own their home outright and rent other houses out. And there are plenty of 24 year olds with first class degrees, working towards PhDs.

Paying off a huge loan to own a little house in doncaster is not an achievement.

And I know plenty of 24 year olds who are on welfare. Plenty who did a degree and stopped right there. I don't get your point. Anecdotal evidence will for ever be gloriously anecdotal.

And if you really want to get pedantic when you get a mortgage you do own your house and have put it up as collateral on a loan while you're paying it back.

[ThriceShy]

And I know plenty of 24 year olds who are on welfare. Plenty who did a degree and stopped right there. I don't get your point. Anecdotal evidence will for ever be gloriously anecdotal.

And if you really want to get pedantic when you get a mortgage you do own your house and have put it up as collateral on a loan while you're paying it back.

There is no need for anecdotes.

Chloe was comparing herself to marc. She seemed to think her "achievement" of getting a mortgage was better than him getting an education and becoming a scientist.

[Rorkimaru]

There is no need for anecdotes.

Chloe was comparing herself to marc. She seemed to think her "achievement" of getting a mortgage was better than him getting an education and becoming a scientist.

Well it was more like not having an education didn't hold her back. It was a comparison to how they provide for themselves. Chloe owns a home, Marc doesn't.

[RodHull]

Well it was more like not having an education didn't hold her back. It was a comparison to how they provide for themselves. Chloe owns a home, Marc doesn't.

But its a moot point Marc never said it to Chloe he said it to Danny cause he was being thuggish and unpleasant as usual.

[BB1984]

But its a moot point Marc never said it to Chloe he said it to Danny cause he was being thuggish and unpleasant as usual.

:clap1:

[Rorkimaru]

But its a moot point Marc never said it to Chloe he said it to Danny cause he was being thuggish and unpleasant as usual.

Well no, the topic at hand is "Is a 24 year old having a mortgage an achievement?" and I'm saying yes it is. The little argument between Chloe and Marc is on her and her brandishing her achievements is no better than him brandishing his. I think she was being tetchy but I still think it's an achievement for a 24 year old to have a mortgage. I'm almost 27 and I don't have one. I'm pretty sure a bank wouldn't give me one either.

[RodHull]

Well no, the topic at hand is "Is a 24 year old having a mortgage an achievement?" and I'm saying yes it is. The little argument between Chloe and Marc is on her and her brandishing her achievements is no better than him brandishing his. I think she was being tetchy but I still think it's an achievement for a 24 year old to have a mortgage. I'm almost 27 and I don't have one. I'm pretty sure a bank wouldn't give me one either.

Forgive me but if thats the basis of this thread then yeah anything can be an achievement. The guy working the trollies down at asda who has no qualifications is an achievement, anything is an achievement if you base it on the individual. And as its all relative then you cant play one against the other.

So yeah it is an achievement, I took a big dump earlier that was an achievement... of sorts

[Kazanne]

It really isn't.

Anyone with a stable job and a deposit can get a mortgage and I doubt she got the deposit herself. I reckon daddy paid for it.

A real achievement is going to college for years and becoming a scientist.

Her dads in prison isn't he,isn't he a gangster?
Her father Edwin Wilburn, 46, below, was jailed for masterminding a £300k plot to flood South Yorkshire with deadly amphetamines.

An insider revealed Chloe, from Doncaster, opened up about the gangster at her final audition for the Channel 5 show.

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/tv/big-brother/441579/Big-Brother-2015-Chloe-Wilburn-Edwin-Wilburn

[rionablue]

How small time is that?

I think it is a great achievement being able to secure a mortgage at her age. Well done Chloe. So many people her age are in cheap rental flats or still living with their folks

[Shaun]

It is one in this economy tbh. Curious thing to hate on her for but...well this is TiBB I suppose.

[ThriceShy]

It is one in this economy tbh. Curious thing to hate on her for but...well this is TiBB I suppose.

I don't hate her for it. I disliked her way before she said that for other reasons. But it just struck me as an incredibly small time thing to have as her ambition in life.

It reminded me of an argument that i had many years ago with a troll on the internet. This troll was boasting that she was a nurse and had a "new car every 3 years" and I responded with "enjoy your lease car that you never actually own while I buy mine":laugh:


I don't think chloe realises that, outside doncaster, getting a huge loan with awful interest rates to buy an estate ****hole isn't the ambition most people have.

[Beetlejuice]

She's a young girl, getting on in life and has taken on the responsbility of having a mortgage. Good for her. This thread seems to me to be rather mean spirited.

[ThriceShy]

She's a young girl, getting on in life and has taken on the responsbility of having a mortgage. Good for her. This thread seems to me to be rather mean spirited.

It isn't.

Chloe said this while having a pop at marc for something he said in an argument that had nothing to do with her.

It was all designed to upstage marc and his education. But it looked a bit pitiful really.

Marc never even mentioned her. Yet she has to start bragging about something that most people take for granted.

And I don't believe for a second that she paid for the deposit herself. Where would she obtain circa 20 grand at that age?

Either her drug dealer dad paid for it or she is on one of these government schemes where the deposit is paid for you.

[billy123]

I Just dont get the need for people to be so nasty about her getting on in life are people Jealous of her it would explain a lot and its interesting to see the quarters that a lot of the nasty posts stem from as well.

[jessicadanielle]

I don't hate her for it. I disliked her way before she said that for other reasons. But it just struck me as an incredibly small time thing to have as her ambition in life.

It reminded me of an argument that i had many years ago with a troll on the internet. This troll was boasting that she was a nurse and had a "new car every 3 years" and I responded with "enjoy your lease car that you never actually own while I buy mine":laugh:


I don't think chloe realises that, outside doncaster, getting a huge loan with awful interest rates to buy an estate ****hole isn't the ambition most people have.

I can't believe how much of a massive deal you're making of this, she didn't say it was her "ambition in life", the only point she was making was that there are achievements in life other than getting an education, and she has had her own. Marc's comment was made to belittle those (particularly Danny) who haven't got an education like he does, and she was trying to justify why she thinks that's stupid.

Dunno why you see the need to compare it with Mark's career. I'm working towards becoming a scientist, yet I'm sitting here in a tiny box room in a shared student flat :laugh: A mortgage is looking like a pretty great achievement to me (and probably any other wannabe scientist) right now!

[ThriceShy]

I can't believe how much of a massive deal you're making of this, she didn't say it was her "ambition in life", the only point she was making was that there are achievements in life other than getting an education, and she has had her own. Marc's comment was made to belittle those (particularly Danny) who haven't got an education like he does, and she was trying to justify why she thinks that's stupid.

Dunno why you see the need to compare it with Mark's career. I'm working towards becoming a scientist, yet I'm sitting here in a tiny box room in a shared student flat :laugh: A mortgage is looking like a pretty great achievement to me (and probably any other wannabe scientist) right now!

So you disagree with me. That is fine. It is what a discussion forum is all about. I welcome views that oppose mine as well as agree with me.

[jessicadanielle]

It isn't.

Chloe said this while having a pop at marc for something he said in an argument that had nothing to do with her.

It was all designed to upstage marc and his education. But it looked a bit pitiful really.

Marc never even mentioned her. Yet she has to start bragging about something that most people take for granted.

And I don't believe for a second that she paid for the deposit herself. Where would she obtain circa 20 grand at that age?

Either her drug dealer dad paid for it or she is on one of these government schemes where the deposit is paid for you.

You're going on like getting a mortgage is no achievement, then in this post suggest that raising the money for a deposit is unachievable :laugh: make your mind up!

[ThriceShy]

You're going on like getting a mortgage is no achievement, then in this post suggest that raising the money for a deposit is unachievable :laugh: make your mind up!

Where did I say it was no achievement?

[cookiemonster]

Where did I say it was no achievement?
in the title? :conf:

[Amy Jade]

Thanks for bumping my horrid thread.

The thread came about because chloe was having a pop at marc and downplaying his educational achievement.

She, or her fans, can't complain if I downplay hers.

Not a fan of Chloe but you're being a hypocrite if you are trying to belittle her for what you call belitteling him.

If you think Chloe is awful for it why repeat what you're saying she did?

[Moosething]

Most probably paid for out of her Dads drug money he's spending 8 years in jail for

Omfg what relevance has this got to the topic? It's disgusting how people keep dragging this up

[BB1984]

Chloe & Aisleyne were in the bedroom almost cackling about not needing an education, I found that kind of disturbing.
I thought having an education was a good thing....

[ThriceShy]

Omfg what relevance has this got to the topic? It's disgusting how people keep dragging this up

I think it is very relevant.

If that deposit was paid with drug money then it makes a huge difference.

[Moosething]

I think it is very relevant.

If that deposit was paid with drug money then it makes a huge difference.

http://38.media.tumblr.com/c445bc8ce2c3fe86aa325d5f091081a6/tumblr_na52x3m91j1txis9uo2_250.gif

[ThriceShy]

Chloe & Aisleyne were in the bedroom almost cackling about not needing an education, I found that kind of disturbing.
I thought having an education was a good thing....

That sort of people revel in their own stupidity.

I am quite well educated and have a large vocabulary. Whenever I come into contact with chavs they try and tell me I am wrong for "using long words."

They revel in ignorance.

I once asked my own cousin if she read books and she cackled at me like I was mad. I genuinely think that she has never read a book and she takes pride in this.

[BB1984]

I think it has to do with upbringing & whether someone reads books, intrested in the news or uses the internet a lot for more then just social media.

Chloe & Aisleyne, Dann seem like the people who do none of those things.

There must be a reason why Joel & Marc are good at debating.

[ThriceShy]

I think it has to do with upbringing & whether someone reads books, intrested in the news or uses the internet a lot for more then just social media.

Chloe & Aisleyne, Dann seem like the people who do none of those things.

There must be a reason why Joel & Marc are good at debating.

I think a lot of it is an act with chloe. I think she is more intelligent than she makes out but she is going for the Brian Belo/Jade Goody tactic of appearing thick to appeal to the teenage girl voter.

[BB1984]

Yeah that's a good point. There are a few people in there that have a game plan & can play a role.
They all just want the money & fame at this point, so close to the end.

[ThriceShy]

Yeah that's a good point. There are a few people in there that have a game plan & can play a role.
They all just want the money & fame at this point, so close to the end.

I tell you what would be the measure of how smart Chloe is.....


If she wins, will she use the £150,000 to pay off the mortgage that she is so proud of?

[BB1984]

I tell you what would be the measure of how smart Chloe is.....


If she wins, will she use the £150,000 to pay off the mortgage that she is so proud of?

All spent on a big piss up in Benidorm for friends & family.

[qwerty42]

she lives in Doncaster right? houses are still affordable on an average wage

[BB4fan]

I couldn't really care less what she does. After she leaves BB she'll be a HM I'll hardly remember.

[Josy]

These days for someone her age having her own mortgage and car IS an achievement.

[armand.kay]

I think it is very relevant.

If that deposit was paid with drug money then it makes a huge difference.

There's no evidence of that tho so people need to stop reaching.

[Ammi]

These days for someone her age having her own mortgage and car IS an achievement.

...totally Josy, she was more saying that she owns her own home and just worded it to say that she was proud to have a mortgage, but it is something to be proud of as it's so hard for young people these days...

[Ashley.]

Where did I say it was no achievement?

:joker:

[jennyjuniper]

Getting a mortgage isn't that much of an achievment, keeping up the payments is.
However given the choice between an education or a mortgage, I would live in a hovel if it meant getting an education.

[Josy]

...totally Josy, she was more saying that she owns her own home and just worded it to say that she was proud to have a mortgage, but it is something to be proud of as it's so hard for young people these days...

Yep.

There is nothing wrong with being proud of your own personal achievements IMO

[Ashley.]

Getting a mortgage isn't that much of an achievment, keeping up the payments is.
However given the choice between an education or a mortgage, I would live in a hovel if it meant getting an education.

I agree with this. I lived with my family through college and university; I believe that education should always come first as it will prepare you for a lot of things in your later life which is what I have learned. Why waste money on a mortgage when you can put it towards a tuition fee?

However, a mortgage is very much a personal achievement and I'd applaud anyone with a mortgage, especially at my age.

[sosadbbend]

How small time is that?

What is wrong with that? It's good that she is not the usual fame seeking idiots that usually fill the house.

[marlobrando2]

Cloe deposit for mortgage came from her father business money.You know where the money came from?

[Gusto Brunt]

its not a real proper acheivement, like a lobotomy, a boob job and a footballer boyfriend

:joker::joker::joker:

[billy123]

Cloe deposit for mortgage came from her father business money.You know where the money came from?Source for that info?

edit: no i thought not.

[ThriceShy]

Yep.

There is nothing wrong with being proud of your own personal achievements IMO

So you agree that marc can be proud of his, without Chloe trying to put him down?

[Lstan]

How small time is that?

tbf with whats going on in this country right now its more like a miracle.

seriously why bash the girl for her modesty? nothing wrong with her.

[Josy]

So you agree that marc can be proud of his, without Chloe trying to put him down?

Yes I do.

[Joannekeeler]

Tell that to people with a portfolio of properties.:laugh:

As ambitions go, getting a mortgage is up there with "having kids" and "getting married." It is just a normal part of life.

And to think that "getting a mortgage" compares with Marc getting a university education and becoming a scientist, is laughable.


This is such a patronising post. Working hard to get and pay for a mortgage is a great achievement, good on her. I know plenty of young people with a university degree that can't get jobs or a mortgage.

[Ashley.]

This is such a patronising post. Working hard to get and pay for a mortgage is a great achievement, good on her. I know plenty of young people with a university degree that can't get jobs or a mortgage.

This.

[smudgie]

Going from personal exPerience, getting the degree is easier than getting a mortgage in this day and age.
My 2 kids have 3 degrees between them and are both paying a fortune in private rent.
Hard to save for a mortgage when you pay over a grand a month rent plus paying off uni debt.
Both Marc and Chloe should be proud of themselves, as long as you do the best you are capable of then hold your head high.

[chuff me dizzy]

Source for that info?

edit: no i thought not.

http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/crime/drugs-gang-jailed-for-a-total-of-88-years-1-6140743

[Kai Anders]

in today's political stance it is tbh.

[billy123]

http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/crime/drugs-gang-jailed-for-a-total-of-88-years-1-6140743My post clearly went over your head i was asking for proof of the claim her dad used stolen money to pay for the deposit on her house do you have proof?

edit: no you dont

[chuff me dizzy]

My post clearly went over your head i was asking for proof of the claim her dad used stolen money to pay for the deposit on her house do you have proof?

edit: no you dont

Don't get sarcastic,you were clearly disputing about her Dad

[Ashley.]

http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/crime/drugs-gang-jailed-for-a-total-of-88-years-1-6140743

Ah, so that's why Chloe was chosen. BB getting that publicity </3

[billy123]

Don't get sarcastic,you were clearly disputing about her Dad
Yes of course i was :joker:

[chuff me dizzy]

Ah, so that's why Chloe was chosen. BB getting that publicity </3

?:conf:

[billy123]

What is wrong with that? It's good that she is not the usual fame seeking idiots that usually fill the house.So true. Its a shame that people are so Jealous of her that they have to be so venomous towards her Marc might have a degree that was free but he will never have any class.

[ThriceShy]

http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/crime/drugs-gang-jailed-for-a-total-of-88-years-1-6140743

God, what a vile family of chavs.

Looks like they are allergic to hard work and Chloe is no different, putting on a fake thick act to win 150 grand.

[chuff me dizzy]

God, what a vile family of chavs.

Looks like they are allergic to hard work and Chloe is no different, putting on a fake thick act to win 150 grand.

I know of her family, her grandparents were close friends of my late sister and her husband..... Chloes grandad also called Edwin was killed in a pit accident in the 80s ,She now lives about 5 minutes from me with her chavvy boyfriend who was in my daughters class in high school

[ThriceShy]

I know of her family, her grandparents were close friends of my late sister and her husband..... Chloes grandad also called Edwin was killed in a pit accident in the 80s ,She now lives about 5 minutes from me with her chavvy boyfriend who was in my daughters class in high school

I wonder why she was chosen. She is a barefoot when not being a bully.

[chuff me dizzy]

I wonder why she was chosen. She is a barefoot when not being a bully.

Because from her VT ,she was the Benidorm Queen !! full of fun,but she's been a total flop hasn't she? can you imagine her best bits :sleep:

[ThriceShy]

I really do need to turn autocomplete off. It turned borefest into barefoot lol

[ThriceShy]

Because from her VT ,she was the Benidorm Queen !! full of fun,but she's been a total flop hasn't she? can you imagine her best bits :sleep:


Her best bit will be watching her leave.

[chuff me dizzy]

Her best bit will be watching her leave.

In tears ( nothing new there then :bawling::bored: )

[BB1984]

Because from her VT ,she was the Benidorm Queen !! full of fun,but she's been a total flop hasn't she? can you imagine her best bits :sleep:

Definitely a flop, she barely ever features on the show & boring overall.
BB thought Chloe was some energetic loudmouth who never stops partying.
They were probably suprised when she morphed into being a dry arse who crys when something is said to her.
So disappointed she lasted over some of the HM's who have been evicted.

[chuff me dizzy]

Definitely a flop, she barely ever features on the show & boring overall.
BB thought Chloe was some energetic loudmouth who never stops partying.
They were probably suprised when she morphed into being a dry arse who crys when something is said to her.
So disappointed she lasted over some of the HM's who have been evicted.

Shocking choice of housemate