Marc Clearly antagonising!

[Miss Nicole]

Yay and here we are watching clear EXAMPLES!:dance:

What an idiot.

[ItWasJustBanter]

Come off the stage. She insulted the life out of him before he returned any jibe.

[nonstop]

Yep. Calling a woman such things is disguising.

[Josy]

How much **** is he supposed to take before he reacts?

Seriously give over

[Babschap]

He is an arse.

[Miss Nicole]

Sorry but that was clear as day.

[BB4fan]

Yay and here we are watching clear EXAMPLES!:dance:

What an idiot.



He was nothing but nice. Glad Helen Wood and Lea Walker are tweeting about the ugly witch.:hehe:

The things that thing said.

[Xtopher]

She was asking for it. She been at him all day, sorry she can't take the heat.

[abhorson]

Yay and here we are watching clear EXAMPLES!:dance:

What an idiot.

Of course he does. That is how passive aggressive do it.

[BB4fan]

Sorry but that was clear as day.

Her dads coming for him? WOW Marc should be scared.:hehe:

[Wizard.]

Everyone on Twitter and facebook doesn't agree with you girl sorry not sorry

[nonstop]

Everyone on Twitter and facebook doesn't agree with you girl sorry not sorry

Facebook and Twitter being used as examples :joker:

[Josy]

Sorry but that was clear as day.

The only thing clear as day was Marc being picked at all day

[abhorson]

He was nothing but nice. Glad Helen Wood and Lea Walker are tweeting about the ugly witch.:hehe:

The things that thing said.

Oh great. Two ex prostitutes have his back:laugh:

[Miss Nicole]

Christian , begging him to please not say any more .Nick telling him he winds people up on purpose and Marc admitting he doesn't like any one enough to not wind them up.

[Miss Nicole]

It's undeniable

[BB4fan]

Oh great. Two ex prostitutes have his back:laugh:

Aisylene just gives it away for free.:hehe:

[Wizard.]

If I wind someone up and they threaten be then I can call the police and get them arrested despite me winding them up so yeah it's even the law

[abhorson]

Christian , begging him to please not say any more .Nick telling him he winds people up on purpose and Marc admitting he doesn't like any one enough to not wind them up.

Bang on.

[abhorson]

Aisylene just gives it away for free.:hehe:

And? So do i.

[reece(:]

He has been goading since he got put in, it's what he does

[nonstop]

If I wind someone up and they threaten be then I can call the police and get them arrested despite me winding them up so yeah it's even the law

:joker::joker::joker::joker:

[Amy Jade]

It's undeniable

People on here love him, he could have attacked her and slapped her in the mouth and it'd be Aisleynes fault for having a face.

[Kazanne]

Yep. Calling a woman such things is disguising.

What about the things she called him,My God that WOMAN can spout some trash

[Rorkimaru]

She was picking and picking and picking the whole day long. Eventually he stopped just taking on the chin. How much abuse must he take before he can start to say things back?

[just thinkin]

He's a typical bully....I said it from the start...horrible. ...please dont fall for his 'they made me do it' routine.. a typical line of an abusive bully

[BB1984]

Aisleyne is just as bad as Helen with similar attitudes, what is Marc supposed to do? Sit there & take it?

[Miss Nicole]

Rewind the episode and watch it again, clearly undeniable.

[Withano]

The thing is, it always gets progressively worse. Nobody really ever starts it, this one started with charley saying you don't really like her do you and Marc replying I don't like somebody being spiteful to me. It just snowballed. Aisleyne, Danny and Marc were all a bad as each other with their oneupmanship.

[Vicky.]

He was purposely getting her more irate purposely, AFTER she started on him ;)

[Niamh.]

oh come on even John McCrirrick told her to shut up about him, Marc was talking to Joel when Aisleyene started on him.....ps I dont even like Marc

[Kazanne]

Here comes her dad,be afraid VERY afraid
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-LDt1OmALOAY/UURfO_UAG7I/AAAAAAAAKFY/lhu3QNrpWgQ/s1600/Cromer-carnival-fancy-dress-old-plastic-man-with-zimmerframe.jpg

[Miss Nicole]

Without doubt 100% antagonising. Christian please don't say any more Mark, how many times?

[Kazanne]

He's a typical bully....I said it from the start...horrible. ...please dont fall for his 'they made me do it' routine.. a typical line of an abusive bully

:joker::joker::joker:

[Miss Nicole]

How many times did Christian Joel and Nick ask Marc to stop?

[BB4fan]

People on here love him, he could have attacked her and slapped her in the mouth and it'd be Aisleynes fault for having a face.

The **** kept on at him. She looks and acts like a fame hugry state. She's become more desperate with time and she's a big mouthed hypocrite.

This ugly personality of hers can't be hidden.

[Amy Jade]

Here comes her dad,be afrais VERY afraid
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-LDt1OmALOAY/UURfO_UAG7I/AAAAAAAAKFY/lhu3QNrpWgQ/s1600/Cromer-carnival-fancy-dress-old-plastic-man-with-zimmerframe.jpg

Looks like Marc, facial features are spot on.

[Kazanne]

How many times did Christian Joel and Nick ask Marc to stop?

Why should he stop when that vile bitch and Danny were gobbing off.

[Miss Nicole]

It's clear no one can deny it!

[ItWasJustBanter]

She wok up and the first words out of her mouth were about Marc. She was gunning for him from the moment she woke.

The fake tears were embarrassing.

The wikipedia comment was the nail in her plastic coffin.

What a shambles of a woman.

[Withano]

In the second argument, marc told aisleyne that she had issues and aisleyne reacted badly, then they just one upped each other again with aisleyne calling him a ****. They're all as bad as each other

[Miss Nicole]

The **** kept on at him. She looks and acts like a fame hugry state. She's become more desperate with time and she's a big mouthed hypocrite.

This ugly personality of hers can't be hidden.

Rewind to when Marc was digging at Danny.

[Kazanne]

It's clear no one can deny it!

We can,you can say it as many times as you want but it doesn't make it true

[Patricia4]

Aisleyne is a nasty piece of work that's why when James went in he told her and Danny that you need splitting up how right he is.

[Miss Nicole]

Rewind to Nick saying Marc winds people up on purpose,.

[Kazanne]

In the second argument, marc told aisleyne that she had issues and aisleyne reacted badly, then they just one upped each other again with aisleyne calling him a ****. They're all as bad as each other

She said to him I hope this aint about me,when Marc was talking to Joel,it was her that started it

[Miss Nicole]

Then rewind to Marc saying he doesn't like any one enough to not wind them up.......
We have examples people .

[Rorkimaru]

He was purposely getting her more irate purposely, AFTER she started on him ;)

Exactly this. She started it and picked all day. And for a while he antagonised without saying a single thing to her. Eventually she got so personal he started retaliating saying mean things too. Is this nice? No, of course not, but she was practically begging for a row. She picked and picked and picked and while Marc has to own his own words Aisleyne should do the same. She came across horribly and was by far the worst of the two.

[Vicky.]

In the second argument, marc told aisleyne that she had issues and aisleyne reacted badly, then they just one upped each other again with aisleyne calling him a ****. They're all as bad as each other

Not in tonights show no, Aisleyne was looking for an argument from the second she woke up. Hell even John told her to knock it off and he hates Marc :laugh:

[Miss Nicole]

What about the things she called him,My God that WOMAN can spout some trash

Yeah I'm not really talking about Ash....

[Rorkimaru]

Yeah I'm not really talking about Ash....

Because she was so much worse so you're going to skirt the issue and focus your hate on Marc. It takes two to tango and Ashleyne asked to dance.

[ThriceShy]

Aisleyne should be removed for the dad threats. It was exactly the same as what Alexandra did.

He shouldn't have to put up with this bullying.

[Vicky.]

Aisleyne should be removed for the dad threats. It was exactly the same as what Alexandra did.

He shouldn't have to put up with this bullying.

:facepalm:

[Miss Nicole]

We're talking about clear examples of Marc winding people up?Not what Ash said.....

[Miss Nicole]

Because she was so much worse so you're going to skirt the issue and focus your hate on Marc. It takes two to tango and Ashleyne asked to dance.

If you would like to start a thread re Ash that's great, I'm talking about Marc?

[Rorkimaru]

We're talking about clear examples of Marc winding people up and the context in which they occurred. He said mean things about Brian too but that was after Brian lied, manipulated and spewed vitriol about Marc and Helen. If you ignore context your argument is pointless. You can't isolate a sentence from a novel and say it's a summary. The context is that Ash was at him all day. Literally from the moment she woke.

[Josy]

Without doubt 100% antagonising. Christian please don't say any more Mark, how many times?

And who did say more and keep coming back to carry it on after Cristian's comment? oh that's right it was Danny, NOT Marc...

[ItWasJustBanter]

If you would like to start a thread re Ash that's great, I'm talking about Marc?

I'm Ron Burgundy?

[ThriceShy]

:facepalm:

Hiding your face in your hands with shame is appropriate. It is one of the worst cases of BB bullying I have ever seen.

[Withano]

He was purposely getting her more irate purposely, AFTER she started on him ;)

I'm sorry, I just rewatched it and the first thing said that was out of line was Marc saying That aisleyne had issues, there was discussion before this but Marc was the first to get personal this time

[Patricia4]

How much abuse must he take before he can start to say things back?
I agree with this above.

[ItWasJustBanter]

I'm sorry, I just rewatched it and the first thing said that was out of line was Marc saying That aisleyne had issues, there was discussion before this but Marc was the first to get personal this time

He said nothing and the first thing out of her trashy gob was

[gangsta voice]You betta not be fackin tokin bout me[/gangsta voice]

Surprised she didn't say her "bread chin" would sort him out.

[Miss Nicole]

And who did say more and keep coming back to carry it on after Cristian's comment? oh that's right it was Danny, NOT Marc...

I watched it I know what happened rewind it watch it again the evidence is clear and I am very pleased at last we have the examples that have been eagerly waited for

[Miss Nicole]

I'm sorry, I just rewatched it and the first thing said that was out of line was Marc saying That aisleyne had issues, there was discussion before this but Marc was the first to get personal this time
So

Thankyou

[BB4fan]

Looks like Marc, facial features are spot on.

Still more realistic than Aisylene's fake ugly mug.:hehe:

[Josy]

I watched it I know what happened rewind it watch it again the evidence is clear and I am very pleased at last we have the examples that have been eagerly waited for

I also watched it and know what happened :shrug: and none of what you claim did..

[Miss Nicole]

It's not difficult, rewind it and see.

[BB4fan]

He said nothing and the first thing out of her trashy gob was

[gangsta voice]You betta not be fackin tokin bout me[/gangsta voice]

Surprised she didn't say her "bread chin" would sort him out.

She's a loud mouthed tart desperate for TV time. She's a tragic woman.

[ThriceShy]

I'm sorry, I just rewatched it and the first thing said that was out of line was Marc saying That aisleyne had issues, there was discussion before this but Marc was the first to get personal this time

Wasn't Marc immediately proven to be correct when Aisleyne started threatening to get her dad on him?

[Rorkimaru]

I watched it I know what happened rewind it watch it again the evidence is clear and I am very pleased at last we have the examples that have been eagerly waited for

But you don't. That's the thing. He wound her up after she came for him. He never said he didn't say anything to Brian only that Brian came for him and he responded. Aisleyne came for Marc. She was gunning for him all day. Yes he antagonised her. Yes he said mean things but, to go to schoolyard rules, she started it. He didn't engage with her, she engaged with him.

[Withano]

He said nothing and the first thing out of her trashy gob was

[gangsta voice]You betta not be fackin tokin bout me[/gangsta voice]

Surprised she didn't say her "bread chin" would sort him out.

Yes that happened, but the first to get personal was Marc. The augment escalated because of personal insults.

If Aisleyne said " you better not be talking about me" and Marc replied with anything but an insult, the argument would not have happened.

[BB4fan]

It's not difficult, rewind it and see.

I watched it and that vile woman caused it. She's been carrying on for days.

The **** was crying for attention from the start of the episode. Time for it to go.

[Miss Nicole]

I'm sorry, I just rewatched it and the first thing said that was out of line was Marc saying That aisleyne had issues, there was discussion before this but Marc was the first to get personal this time

I wouldn't be so vehement had I not watched the same thing!

[bots]

all i saw was marc being picked on from start to finish.

[ThriceShy]

Yes that happened, but the first to get personal was Marc. The augment escalated because of personal insults.

If Aisleyne said " you better not be talking about me" and Marc replied with anything but an insult, the argument would not have happened.

But if Aisleyne started by saying "you better not be talking about me" then surely she started off by threatening him.

[BB4fan]

Marc was being the adult she was acting like trash. Terrible to see a 40zyr old woman act that pathetic.

[lewis111]

She was picking and picking and picking the whole day long. Eventually he stopped just taking on the chin. How much abuse must he take before he can start to say things back?

Exactly, and he can never say anything back apparently

[goldensunlight]

Is he really just supposed to stand there and take it? He gave back as good as he got and more (which he is well within his rights to do, she can't leave him alone). She might have started it but he finished it, she can't handle him. :smug:

[joeysteele]

Come off the stage. She insulted the life out of him before he returned any jibe.

She was, she was the one who started it too.

As for disrespecting a woman, female Aisleyne may be but she throws decency into the bin and her mouth is equally as bad as Helens too.
You cannot disrespect trash and that is what she is in my view.

[lewis111]

Right
When Helen was in the house I was totally against Marc, I didn't like him.
But this past week he has done nothing wrong?
She was throwing comments at him all day and her and Danny were right in his face. Does that matter? Of course not, "Marc was in te arm he can handle himself"
Tonight, Aislyene called him a *****, the spawn of satan, said she'd get her dad on him.
Is all this OK yes, and I know no Danny supporters will directly answer that question becaiuse they'll either be lying or just realised they've been proven wrong

[RodHull]

Aisleyne should be removed for the dad threats. It was exactly the same as what Alexandra did.

He shouldn't have to put up with this bullying.

The joke was when she went total schizo and lost it screaming abuse with her little gang of bum lickers sat around her she tried to play the bully card on him. How is it possible for one man to bully a whole house of people on his own I wonder.

[Withano]

But if Aisleyne started by saying "you better not be talking about me" then surely she started off by threatening him.

The "you better not be talking about me" was in complete context and was not at all a threat (obviously) to a discussion between Joel and Marc where Marc was saying he may or may not have something to say about the housemates when he became "off shift" as a hotel employee whilst looking in aisleynes direction.

After aisleynes comment, Marc told aisleyne that she had issues.

To me, in this example alone, it is 1000% evidently clear that Marc started the argument, and to me, it's so obvious that it is not even debatable so I won't reply to any more excuses for Marc you have ready and lined up.

[RodHull]

To me, in this example alone, it is 1000% evidently clear that Marc started the argument, and to me, it's so obvious that it is not even debatable so I won't reply to any more excuses for Marc you have ready and lined up.

So when Joel and Marc where having a disagreement she butted her ugly face in and said 'better not be about me' to which he replied.

I wasnt even talking to you and she went mental at him. But clearly you made your point so eloquently you arent going to reply oh well nvm :sleep:

[Withano]

So when Joel and Marc where having a disagreement she butted her ugly face in and said 'better not be about me' to which he replied.

I wasnt even talking to you and she went mental at him. But clearly you made your point so eloquently you arent going to reply oh well nvm :sleep:

I think Marc looking in aisleynes direction justifies her reaction. Marc overstepped the line first by saying that she had issues and aisleyne overstepped the line even more by claiming that he was a ****. It escalated from here and they both made fools of themselves. I'm just saying that Marc started it this time because he did. Rewatch with subtitles if you disagree.

[lewis111]

I think Marc looking in aisleynes direction justifies her reaction. Marc overstepped the line first by saying that she had issues and aisleyne overstepped the line even more by claiming that he was a ****. It escalated from here and they both made fools of themselves. I'm just saying that Marc started it this time, he did.

God, better not look at Aisleyne or you'll get ripped to shreds.
Aisyelen butted into the conversation with an angry sound in her voice, she had no need to at all

[Withano]

God, better not look at Aisleyne or you'll get ripped to shreds.
Aisyelen butted into the conversation with an angry sound in her voice, she had no need to at all

Obviously Marc knew what he was doing. Looking towards aisleyne whilst saying things to the effect of "I might have some thing to say about some housemates when this task is over or when I get off shift as a hotel employee". It was always going to get a reaction, it was what he wanted. This is obvious, I have no idea what you think you watched, it's as clear as day, I mean really.

[ThriceShy]

The "you better not be talking about me" was in complete context and was not at all a threat (obviously) to a discussion between Joel and Marc where Marc was saying he may or may not have something to say about the housemates when he became "off shift" as a hotel employee whilst looking in aisleynes direction.

After aisleynes comment, Marc told aisleyne that she had issues.

To me, in this example alone, it is 1000% evidently clear that Marc started the argument, and to me, it's so obvious that it is not even debatable so I won't reply to any more excuses for Marc you have ready and lined up.

Saying "you better not be talking about me" implies there will be consequences for doing so. It is a threat. And marc is allowed to talk about her if he wants and it just goes to show how much marc is bullied when they try and tell him what he can talk about.

[rionablue]

Very very uncomfortable to watch. She goaded him yes no doubt about it but he should have just kept saying yes Madam like he did at the start. All he had to do was hold his cool and that would make her so mad she would have to drop the whole thing

[ThriceShy]

Obviously Marc knew what he was doing. Looking towards aisleyne whilst saying things to the effect of "I might have some thing to say about some housemates when this task is over or when I get off shift as a hotel employee". It was always going to get a reaction, it was what he wanted. This is obvious, I have no idea what you think you watched, it's as clear as day, I mean really.

If it was clear as day that he wanted a reaction then why on earth did they give him one?

[Withano]

If it was clear as day that he wanted a reaction then why on earth did they give him one?

She either wanted another drunken argument or it was just maybe more clear as a viewer who rewatched the argument twice.

[Kazanne]

I'm sorry, I just rewatched it and the first thing said that was out of line was Marc saying That aisleyne had issues, there was discussion before this but Marc was the first to get personal this time

No he was talking to Joel or Nick cant remember which one and SHE said "I hope this aint about me" and then it started

[ThriceShy]

She either wanted another drunken argument or it was just maybe more clear as a viewer who rewatched the argument twice.

Regardless of who started it and why, do you not think Aisleyne looked absolutely pitiful threatening to set her dad on him? And why hasn't she been removed like Alexandra was?

[Vicky.]

If this is an example of him antagonizing, then yes, he has DEFINITELY antagonized everyone. I call it..answering back mind..but hey ho

[Withano]

No he was talking to Joel or Nick cant remember which one and SHE said "I hope this aint about me" and then it started

Yes, if you want to backtrace, she said it because Marc was saying that he may or may not have something to say about the housemates whilst looking in aisleynes direction.

But the first personal comment was Marc to aisleynes "I think you have issues" which was in my opinion when and why it escalated into an argument.

[Vicky.]

Very very uncomfortable to watch. She goaded him yes no doubt about it but he should have just kept saying yes Madam like he did at the start. All he had to do was hold his cool and that would make her so mad she would have to drop the whole thing

Honestly, I think he has kept his cool enough, and it still never ends :shrug:

[Withano]

Regardless of who started it and why, do you not think Aisleyne looked absolutely pitiful threatening to set her dad on him? And why hasn't she been removed like Alexandra was?

Yes. It was disgusting she should have been warned. Why do you keep changing the subject. Danny, Marc and aisleyne were all bellends. Why do you expect me to make his clear to you on a post which is completely irrelevant. Jesus, there needs to be a block button on tibb.

[chuff me dizzy]

Marc was AMAZING tonight, and put the cheap skank in her place ,to the point where she said she was going to get her Dad on him ( how old are you cheap ?) he beat his previous best quote of the series with his new one liner" You've been slammed more times than a taxi door" Im still howling about it now .....Marc you are BB16 :worship:

[RodHull]

Yes, if you want to backtrace, she said it because Marc was saying that he may or may not have something to say about the housemates whilst looking in aisleynes direction.

But the first personal comment was Marc to aisleynes "I think you have issues" which was in my opinion when and why it escalated into an argument.

You do realise he was talking about Joel right... cause the two of them argued earlier that day it was an entirely personal conversation she butted into to get some attention. And she was sat right next to Joel...

And when he said 'i wasnt even talking about you' she just went off on one... thats where the argument started but if you want to edit reality and start the argument a whole chunk later after she got lairy then this discussion is pointless.

[chuff me dizzy]

No he was talking to Joel or Nick cant remember which one and SHE said "I hope this aint about me" and then it started

Joel,and he's is getting too big for his boots, silly little twat ,who does he think he is? he's not at home now, he doesn't rule the BB house

[chuff me dizzy]

Saying "you better not be talking about me" implies there will be consequences for doing so. It is a threat. And marc is allowed to talk about her if he wants and it just goes to show how much marc is bullied when they try and tell him what he can talk about.

:clap1:

[Withano]

You do realise he was talking about Joel right... cause the two of them argued earlier that day it was an entirely personal conversation she butted into to get some attention. And she was sat right next to Joel...

And when he said 'i wasnt even talking about you' ... You have issuesshe just went off on one... thats where the argument started but if you want to edit reality and start the argument a whole chunk later after she got lairy then this discussion is pointless.

The bold is what you conveniently missed out.. And Marc was looking at aisleyne whilst talking to Joel
But I see that you're just paraphrasing in an attempt to make is sound like Marc did nothing wrong. So we're done tonight.

[ThriceShy]

Yes. It was disgusting she should have been warned. Why do you keep changing the subject. Danny, Marc and aisleyne were all bellends. Why do you expect me to make his clear to you on a post which is completely irrelevant. Jesus, there needs to be a block button on tibb.

It is called an ignore list. Just pop me on it. I won't mind. Honest.

Why do you say she just be warned? She threatened violence on a housemate from someone outside, just like alexandra did. And Marc, to his credit, didn't make a big deal of it.

If I was marc then I would be in the diary room making a fuss and saying I felt threatened.

He has the patience of a saint.

[mimosveta]

Aisylene just gives it away for free.:hehe:

so now even not being a prostitute is a bad thing?

:shocked:

no wonder you're a marc fan.

[BENDERBOY]

Yet more goading from the vile house bully, another bad night for Marc.

[mimosveta]

Oh great. Two ex prostitutes have his back:laugh:

what difference does it make they used to be prostitutes? :shrug:

[chuff me dizzy]

Yet more goading from the vile house bully, another bad night for Marc.

So you wasn't watching ?

[mimosveta]

He has the patience of a saint.

only cause they are doing exactly what he wants them to do.

If they all ignored him he'd very quickly lose his patience and escalate his attacks.

[JamesBond]

So you wasn't watching ?

I've never been a fan of wearing sunglasses indoors.

[chuff me dizzy]

I've never been a fan of wearing sunglasses indoors.

Those rose tinted one are right twats !!

[Vicky.]

The whole segment was just so funny.

"Yes, I am short madam'"
"You are 40-what, madam?"
"You are as fake as your tits, madam"

Staying in character throughout the argument while she was getting redder and redder in the face and practically spitting her words :laugh2:

I don't deny he purposely wound her up, that much was clear as day. But she shouldn't start things she cannot win. She even said earlier in the day (when she had woke up obsessed before he even did anything!) that she couldn't argue with him, yet she goes out of her way to try. He makes it look so effortless. I would love to remain that calm during arguments

[RodHull]

The bold is what you conveniently missed out.. And Marc was looking at aisleyne whilst talking to Joel
But I see that you're just paraphrasing in an attempt to make is sound like Marc did nothing wrong. So we're done tonight.

No it was not all in the same flow he said you have issues a little bit after, and tbf she does she just randomly went off saying 'you better not be talking about me' (which is itself a kind of threat) when he wasnt

If she thought he was then she does have issues cause he was talking about Joel cause the the two of them argued but he couldnt speak to Joel about it cause of the task.

[RodHull]

Point is your saying he started it by glancing in her direction when he said an ambiguous comment where as she directly went for him. I know who most people think started it...

[chuff me dizzy]

The whole segment was just so funny.

"Yes, I am short madam'"
"You are 40-what, madam?"
"You are as fake as your tits, madam"

Staying in character throughout the argument while she was getting redder and redder in the face and practically spitting her words :laugh2:

I don't deny he purposely wound her up, that much was clear as day. But she shouldn't start things she cannot win. She even said earlier in the day (when she had woke up obsessed before he even did anything!) that she couldn't argue with him, yet she goes out of her way to try. He makes it look so effortless. I would love to remain that calm during arguments

Best night of the series,I kept re-winding and watch a master in action,over and over

[BENDERBOY]

So you wasn't watching ?

Oh i was, i just don't support the same tool that you do.

[JamesBond]

Oh i was, i just don't support the same tool that you do.

Which tool do you support :)

Sorry I had to ask.

[BENDERBOY]

Which tool do you support :)

Sorry I had to ask.

I'm back supporting Joel, mainly for his tool. tbh

[chuff me dizzy]

Oh i was, i just don't support the same tool that you do.

Thats lovely for you :pat:

[chuff me dizzy]

I'm back supporting Joel, mainly for his tool. tbh

Joel ??????????? Really :umm2::pat:

[Amy Jade]

withano and Miss Nicole :clap1:

Don't know why you're bothering but you're both dropping the only truthes in this thread.

[Vicky.]

Joel ??????????? Really :umm2::pat:

Now hey, dont start on poor Joel :nono:

Hes my second fave again after Harrys completely bizzare breakdown.

Even though Joel was an utter dickhead tonight

[RodHull]

Now hey, dont start on poor Joel :nono:

Hes my second fave again after Harrys completely bizzare breakdown.

Even though Joel was an utter dickhead tonight

Yes tory boy had a bad night tonight tbh

[chuff me dizzy]

Now hey, dont start on poor Joel :nono:

Hes my second fave again after Harrys completely bizzare breakdown.

Even though Joel was an utter dickhead tonight

What a prize tit it is ....Has Cameron tweeted about me ? ......... Interviewing Jasmine .....Telling the others to bring all the food in the house ....hes blown it tonight ,if he ever had a hope of winning, its gone now

[chuff me dizzy]

Yes tory boy had a bad night tonight tbh

Very bad night

[Withano]

Point is your saying he started it by glancing in her direction when he said an ambiguous comment where as she directly went for him. I know who most people think started it...

If you read the thread, I said several times that it started at Marc's first personal insult. I was bringing up Marc 'talking about wanting to say stuff about the housemates whilst glancing at aisleyne' because others made out that the argument started because of aisleynes "you better not be talking about me" comment. Aisleynes comment was justified in the context, Marc's first insult was not. It escalated from there and they both ended up in the wrong.

[ThriceShy]

If you read the thread, I said several times that it started at Marc's first personal insult. I was bringing up Marc talking about wanting to say stuff about the housemates whilst glancing at aisleyne because others made out that the argument started because of aisleynes "you better not be talking about me" comment. Aisleynes comment was justified in the context, Marc's first insult was not. It escalated from there and they both ended up in the wrong.

She started it with a threat. How can that possibly be justified?

[Kazanne]

Oh i was, i just don't support the same tool that you do.

So which tool do you support?

[BB4fan]

so now even not being a prostitute is a bad thing?

:shocked:

no wonder you're a marc fan.

Clearly you misunderstood wha i was getting st so i'Il let you figure it out.:idc:

And this threads about Aisylene not Helen so try again and I'll be a fan of what I want.

I don't support cheap hypocrites who outstayed their welcome ten yrs ago.

[RodHull]

Its funny how anti Helen crowd go on about tolerance and bullying and blah blah bore off then love to pull the 'she was a prostitute' stick out to beat her with

When she herself admits it was a terrible life choice and one she doesnt do anymore. The irony is lost on them it seems.

[Beetlejuice]

Yay and here we are watching clear EXAMPLES!:dance:

What an idiot.

Yep, he was being his usual obnoxious self trying to goad people into snapping. Alas, some of them are stupid enough to give him what he wants despite McCrirrick warning them not to.

Let's hope the manipulative little creep goes on Friday. It wasn't a good show for someone who is up for eviction, even if it wasn't a good show for Aisleyne/Danny (neither of whom I like). Thankfully Jack barely featured.

[BB4fan]

No it was not all in the same flow he said you have issues a little bit after, and tbf she does she just randomly went off saying 'you better not be talking about me' (which is itself a kind of threat) when he wasnt

If she thought he was then she does have issues cause he was talking about Joel cause the the two of them argued but he couldnt speak to Joel about it cause of the task.

She's desperate to say something to him. Marc better be careful she has Wikipedia.:hehe:

[ThriceShy]

Its funny how anti Helen crowd go on about tolerance and bullying and blah blah bore off then love to pull the 'she was a prostitute' stick out to beat her with

When she herself admits it was a terrible life choice and one she doesnt do anymore. The irony is lost on them it seems.

Aisleyne did escorting too didn't she?

[Amy Jade]

Its funny how anti Helen crowd go on about tolerance and bullying and blah blah bore off then love to pull the 'she was a prostitute' stick out to beat her with

When she herself admits it was a terrible life choice and one she doesnt do anymore. The irony is lost on them it seems.

Why don't you talk about housemates and not forum members?

[BB4fan]

Why don't you talk about housemates and not forum members?

Like you randomly brought Helen up which is not the thread topic.

[ThriceShy]

Yep, he was being his usual obnoxious self trying to goad people into snapping. Alas, some of them are stupid enough to give him what he wants despite McCrirrick warning them not to.

Let's hope the manipulative little creep goes on Friday. It wasn't a good show for someone who is up for eviction, even if it wasn't a good show for Aisleyne/Danny (neither of whom I like). Thankfully Jack barely featured.



I think the show was great for marc. I think you underestimate his (and helen's) fanbase.

They will vote like mad to get jack out.

[BB4fan]

Its funny how anti Helen crowd go on about tolerance and bullying and blah blah bore off then love to pull the 'she was a prostitute' stick out to beat her with

When she herself admits it was a terrible life choice and one she doesnt do anymore. The irony is lost on them it seems.

Well said.:clap1:

[Beetlejuice]

I think the show was great for marc. I think you underestimate his (and helen's) fanbase.

They will vote like mad to get jack out.

The best show for someone up for eviction is to disappear into the background. Jack was barely featured tonight and Marc, though he will have reinforced his support, just reminded everyone else what a manipulative smug tosspot he is. I've actually voted for an eviction for the first time since I can remember. I usually only ever vote in the final, if at all. (I voted for Ashleigh to win last year)

[RodHull]

Why don't you talk about housemates and not forum members?

When you think of a relevant response get back to me...

[Amy Jade]

Like you randomly brought Helen up which is not the thread topic.

Helen is a housemate :facepalm:

[ThriceShy]

The best show for someone up for eviction is to disappear into the background. Jack was barely featured tonight and Marc, though he will have reinforced his support, just reminded everyone else was a manipulative smug tosspot he is. I've actually voted for an eviction for the first time since I can remember. I usually only ever vote in the final, if at all. (I voted for Ashleigh to win last year)

Harry is coming over far worse than Marc. And she was shown a lot tonight being a complete cow.

The bullying of marc is now getting him the sympathy vote. There is no way that he will go on friday.

[mimosveta]

But you don't. That's the thing. He wound her up after she came for him. He never said he didn't say anything to Brian only that Brian came for him and he responded. Aisleyne came for Marc. She was gunning for him all day. Yes he antagonised her. Yes he said mean things but, to go to schoolyard rules, she started it. He didn't engage with her, she engaged with him.

Actually, in most cases it was Brian insisting Helen leave third party alone, yes, shouting that Helen leave third party alone, and then Marc would join in sided with Helen, attacking Brian. After the fact he'd say he never attacked Brian first, which is all sorts of gray zone, cause it seems to suggest that it's wrong for Brian to stand up for other hms, but it's right for Marc to stand up for Helen and to pretend Brian was attacking him. And also, after such incidents, Marc would warp the reasons Brian was upset calling him a liar. Like how Marc claim Brian was acting as if he didn't want to nominate Chloe, when in fact Brian didn't want Chloe to be humiliated further when already crying. And then he goes on claiming how Brian lied about him which is another level of lying, it's fracking lying inception.

[BB4fan]

Helen is a housemate :facepalm:

The thread topic is Marc not Helen. Please read.:nono:

[BB4fan]

Aisleyne did escorting too didn't she?

I hear she did. She's also a media *****.:hehe:

[mimosveta]

Its funny how anti Helen crowd go on about tolerance and bullying and blah blah bore off then love to pull the 'she was a prostitute' stick out to beat her with

When she herself admits it was a terrible life choice and one she doesnt do anymore. The irony is lost on them it seems.

Well in that case you'll find me humorless, as I'm against Helen very much, and have already objected to her prostitution being used to drag her trough mud. I actually thought that was terrible choice of Brian's to go to press and bring that up after all that happened. He was a hero of the story until he brought that up. I mean, I get it, he was hurt, he lashed out, and he's not the smartest cookie ever, but there are things she does now that are actually bad, no need to dig something up from her past that absolutely no one would do if they had better option, and then act as if they did it out of depravity, it's just low..

In developing world girls work in sweatshops which provide no protection, they can get hurt in all sorts of ways by machines they use, they get no health care, and they still prefer it to prostitution. Unfortunately, those are the only options they have, being uneducated and overall there being no work available. When westerners choose to be humane and activists, and make corporations close their sweat shops due to no access to toilets and bad working conditions (from our POV), those girls can either die or prostitute them selves.

So really holding that against someone is

just

wrong.

[Beetlejuice]

Harry is coming over far worse than Marc. And she was shown a lot tonight being a complete cow.

Keep voting for her, whilst I vote for Marc. And hopefully we Marc haters can get him above Jack in the vote.

The bullying of marc is now getting him the sympathy vote. There is no way that he will go on friday.

Marc has been bullying people since he got there. Constant insulting remarks, invading people's personal space, asking intrusive questions, making housemates feel small, goading people to try to make them snap in an effort to get them removed or ruin their chances. Very nasty piece of work.

It is true his popularity is being reinforced, but those of us who see him for what he is have continue to point out the truth.

[ThriceShy]

Keep voting for her, whilst I vote for Marc. And hopefully we Marc haters can get him above Jack in the vote.



Marc has been bullying people since he got there. Constant insulting remarks, invading people's personal space, asking intrusive questions, making housemates feel small, goading people to try to make them snap in an effort to get them removed or ruin their chances. Very nasty piece of work.

It is true his popularity is being reinforced, but those of us who see him for what he is have continue to point out the truth.

You have jumped the shark.

Marc has never got in anyone's space. In fact he was violently bullied by Danny within minutes of entering the house. He had to keep telling thug danny to get out of his personal space.

How on earth can one man bully a houseful of people?

[Beetlejuice]

Actually, in most cases it was Brian insisting Helen leave third party alone, yes, shouting that Helen leave third party alone, and then Marc would join in sided with Helen, attacking Brian. After the fact he'd say he never attacked Brian first, which is all sorts of gray zone, cause it seems to suggest that it's wrong for Brian to stand up for other hms, but it's right for Marc to stand up for Helen and to pretend Brian was attacking him. And also, after such incidents, Marc would warp the reasons Brian was upset calling him a liar. Like how Marc claim Brian was acting as if he didn't want to nominate Chloe, when in fact Brian didn't want Chloe to be humiliated further when already crying. And then he goes on claiming how Brian lied about him which is another level of lying, it's fracking lying inception.

Indeed. Marc is proving to be even more manipulative than I thought. The Cristian and Jade nominations revealed a lot about him and Brian was right in what he was saying.

Brian pointed out Marc wanted to nominate Cristian and it is a fact that Marc did nominate Cristian. But Marc tried to deflect attention away from this by bringing up him saving Cristian from the second nomination which ended up being Chloe. So what if you did? You're clearly not the friend to Cristian you're trying to make yourself out to be by doing that, because your next nomination was Cristian anyway. Which is all Brian was pointing out.

And Marc chose to not get involved in the nominations the fourth time knowing his "friend" Jade's time in the house hanged in the balance. All he had to do was get Helen to change her vote, which she would have, and Brian would have gone along with any other alternative offered to save Jade. But knowing what the consequences would be, Marc chose to not get involved and in doing so sealed Jade's fate. Some loyalty he showed to his friend Jade there. Again, Brian had a legitimate point.

None of this matters to Marc's admirers by now though. He's made of teflon.

[mimosveta]

Clearly you misunderstood wha i was getting st so i'Il let you figure it out.:idc:

oh, sweetie, it's actually the other way around. you've been owned, pretending I didn't understand what you were saying won't save you.

And this threads about Aisylene not Helen so try again and I'll be a fan of what I want.

I don't support cheap hypocrites who outstayed their welcome ten yrs ago.

That's okay, I didn't mention Helen, you did just now.

You know what, I'm now not even sure if you've even read my response, or you just typed whatever in hopes "yours will be the last" :joker:

[mimosveta]

And Marc chose to not get involved in the nominations the fourth time knowing his "friend" Jade's time in the house hanged in the balance. All he had to do was get Helen to change her vote, which she would have, and Brian would have gone along with any other alternative offered to save Jade. But knowing what the consequences would be, Marc chose to not get involved and in doing so sealed Jade's fate. Some loyalty he showed to his friend Jade there. Again, Brian had a legitimate point.

I tried to explain this several times in other threads, and never was satisfied with the result, so I've decided to skip it here, but you've worded it just the perfect way. Jade nomination was entirely up to him, if he had sided with Brian, it would be two for, and two against, and they'd have to find someone else where at least three of them agree. But instead he sided with Helen, making Jade be the 3 against 1 nomination.

I'm really annoyed how during tag nomination he blamed half of them that their nominations were copout, when they all had to nominate someone they didn't want to nominate, not cause it was face to face, but cause they couldn't nominate anyone who was already nominated, and they couldn't nominate him either, so yeah, of course their nominations were cop-outs, they had no other choice. And he actually dared to blame them for cop-out after he basically nominated Jade saying "I can't win whatever I say, I will always be hated, so I'll just side with them" which is mother of all cop-outs, he'd be far less hated by all if he actually stood by Jade who was supposed to be his friend.

None of this matters to Marc's admirers by now though. He's made of teflon.

lol, nothing sticks to him :joker:

[Beetlejuice]

You have jumped the shark.

Now, now.

Marc has never got in anyone's space.

He has constantly got into people's space, following them around the house, getting them in bear hugs, making insulting remarks. He's very clever in either describing all this as "banter" or making it look like playfighting, but it is little more than one man trying to demonstrate his physical power over other people. Throw in the insulting remarks and it begins to resemble bully boy behaviour.

In fact he was violently bullied by Danny within minutes of entering the house. He had to keep telling thug danny to get out of his personal space.

You have left out what led to this which is him, within minutes of entering, telling Chloe she was off for an STI test, essentially saying she looked like a slag. Again, this is called "banter" when it actual fact that word "banter" is used to cover what is little more than bully boy behaviour. He's a very manipulative person who by calling his sly digs at people "banter" makes those on the receiving end feel like they can't object or speak out against it because they fear they'll be accused of having no sense of humour. Which they often are when they do finally snap. Whilst he's celebrated for being a great wind up merchant.

I've seen men do this to their girlfriends. Essentially brainwash them into being the butt of their jokes in front of their mates, getting everyone to laugh along, and when other women who see this ask the girlfriend why they put up with that, they repeat what the man has told them "It's just banter". Marc is very much like this, and his relationship with Sam sometimes reminds me of such behaviour.

How on earth can one man bully a houseful of people?

Very easily actually. He prods away at them constantly, goads them into snapping, makes constant insulting remarks, knowing full well that they can't actually do anything. They can't nominate him because he's the producer's favourite who has been immune for 4 weeks, they can't deck him as most people would have done by now in the real world (spare me the sanctimony about violence - no one would get away with acting like that in the real world), and so they just have to put up with it. He takes full advantage of the situation to prod, goad, overpower, belittle, insult and manipulate.

I don't like Danny. I thought he crossed the line with the sandwich incident, but most of the other times he's got stressed I could see where he was coming from. If a guy called my friend or girlfriend some of the things Marc has said to Chloe for example, he would end up in a massive argument at best.

[ThriceShy]

Now, now.



He has constantly got into people's space, following them around the house, getting them in bear hugs, making insulting remarks. He's very clever in either describing all this as "banter" or making it look like playfighting, but it is little more than one man trying to demonstrate his physical power over other people. Throw in the insulting remarks and it begins to resemble bully boy behaviour.



You have left out what led to this which is him, within minutes of entering, telling Chloe she was off for an STI test, essentially saying she looked like a slag. Again, this is called "banter" when it actual fact that word "banter" is used to cover what is little more than bully boy behaviour. He's a very manipulative person who by calling his sly digs at people "banter" makes those on the receiving end feel like they can't object or speak out against it because they fear they'll be accused of having no sense of humour. Which they often are when they do finally snap. Whilst he's celebrated for being a great wind up merchant.

I've seen men do this to their girlfriends. Essentially brainwash them into being the butt of their jokes in front of their mates, getting everyone to laugh along, and when other women who see this ask the girlfriend why they put up with that, they repeat what the man has told them "It's just banter". Marc is very much like this, and his relationship with Sam sometimes reminds me of such behaviour.



Very easily actually. He prods away at them constantly, goads them into snapping, makes constant insulting remarks, knowing full well that they can't actually do anything. They can't nominate him because he's the producer's favourite who has been immune for 4 weeks, they can't deck him as most people would have done by now in the real world (spare me the sanctimony about violence - no one would get away with acting like that in the real world), and so they just have to put up with it. He takes full advantage of the situation to prod, goad, overpower, belittle, insult and manipulate.

I don't like Danny. I thought he crossed the line with the sandwich incident, but most of the other times he's got stressed I could see where he was coming from. If a guy called my friend or girlfriend some of the things Marc has said to Chloe for example, he would end up in a massive argument at best.

Danny has no room talk. He hoped that a sexual assault victim would be bullied in the street when she left the BB house. He can't possibly try and pretend he doesn't like bullies.

Everything that danny has done has been worse than anything marc has.

[Beetlejuice]

Danny has no room talk. He hoped that a sexual assault victim would be bullied in the street when she left the BB house. He can't possibly try and pretend he doesn't like bullies.

People say moronic things on twitter. I'm sure we all would if we were silly enough to be on it responding to things without thinking properly 24/7. And I don't think Chloe Goodman was sexually assaulted. I just think that idiot from Baywatch got his wires crossed about what was on offer, did something unacceptable and was very apologetic afterwards. Some people felt she overreacted.

Everything that danny has done has been worse than anything marc has.

I just don't see it myself. Danny is a well liked person in the house, who at times can be a bit dictatorial. Especially when it comes to Marc who clearly has got under his skin. As Marc has been trying to do.

That Danny has a temper is clear, but when does that temper come out? Invariably when Marc has said something to a person he's close to or when Helen has slandered a mate of his as a cokehead. The only time I thought Danny was out of order and over the top was during the argument when he threw the sandwich

[ThriceShy]

People say moronic things on twitter. I'm sure we all would if we were silly enough to be on it responding to things without thinking properly 24/7. And I don't think Chloe Goodman was sexually assaulted. I just think that idiot from Baywatch got his wires crossed about what was on offer, did something unacceptable and was very apologetic afterwards. Some people felt she overreacted.

Wow victim blaming eh. That's nice.

And please speak for yourself in regards to twitter. I could sit on twitter every night for 10 years, bladdered out of my mind, and I still wouldn't call for the bullying of a young woman who was sexually assaulted.



I just don't see it myself. Danny is a well liked person in the house, who at times can be a bit dictatorial. Especially when it comes to Marc who clearly has got under his skin. As Marc has been trying to do.

That Danny has a temper is clear, but when does that temper come out? Invariably when Marc has said something to a person he's close to or when Helen has slandered a mate of his as a cokehead. The only time I thought Danny was out of order and over the top was during the argument when he threw the sandwich


Chloe goodman didn't do anything to Danny. Nor did James Jordan. Yet he calls for the bullying of one and violence towards the other.

And he wasn't looking out for people when he was caught driving at twice the legal drink drive limit.

He seems like an all round nasty piece of work in all aspects of his life.

[Beetlejuice]

Wow victim blaming eh. That's nice.

I said he was wrong. But she seemed to overreact to me. He was very apologetic.

And please speak for yourself in regards to twitter. I could sit on twitter every night for 10 years, bladdered out of my mind, and I still wouldn't call for the bullying of a young woman who was sexually assaulted.

You're perfectly sober now I imagine and saying Chloe was "sexually assaulted" which seems rather over the top to me.



Chloe goodman didn't do anything to Danny. Nor did James Jordan. Yet he calls for the bullying of one and violence towards the other.

It's a bit of a stupid remark in regards to Chloe. But James Jordan has always come across as a prick to me.

And he wasn't looking out for people when he was caught driving at twice the legal drink drive limit.

He seems like an all round nasty piece of work in all aspects of his life.

I have drunk driven. I suspect most have. Never been caught though. Not something I advise either.

[Miss Nicole]

I said he was wrong. But she seemed to overreact to me. He was very apologetic.



You're perfectly sober now I imagine and saying Chloe was "sexually assaulted" which seems rather over the top to me.





It's a bit of a stupid remark in regards to Chloe. But James Jordan has always come across as a prick to me.



I have drunk driven. I suspect most have. Never been caught though. Not something I advise either.

I'm sure this thread was about Marc?