So why is Jack actually up for eviction?

[Beetlejuice]

Some people seem to think the producers are gunning for Marc (their obvious favourite), yet the one person who could beat Marc in an unpopularity contest is Jack who only received 2 nominations. So Marc has been immune from eviction for 4 weeks and then when he is finally up, they make sure to put Jack up despite earlier on in the series Jade and Joel received 3 nominations and didn't face the public vote.

Another example of producer manipulation to try to keep Marc in the house? Looks like it to me.

[ThriceShy]

Some people seem to think the producers are gunning for Marc (their obvious favourite), yet the one person who could beat Marc in an unpopularity contest is Jack who only received 2 nominations. So Marc has been immune from eviction for 4 weeks and then when he is finally up, they make sure to put Jack up despite earlier on in the series Jade and Joel received 3 nominations and didn't face the public vote.

Another example of producer manipulation to try to keep Marc in the house? Looks like it to me.

You are on shaky ground trying to claim that producer manipulation is favouring Marc when Violent thugs Danny and Aisleyne haven't been ejected by those same producers, despite targetting mark with threats and violence.

[Pete.]

I have honestly no idea

[Withano]

How many noms did everybody get, do you remember. I'm very ready to agree with you if jack had less than the other three.

[ThriceShy]

How many noms did everybody get, do you remember. I'm very ready to agree with you if jack had less than the other three.

Yes Jack had less. I think he only had 2, and the others had 6 or 4.

But nobody is denying the producers make this up as they go along. They want a big head to head essentially with Jack and Marc and want a team smug member up with the 4in4out housemates. It will also bring them lots of voting revenue.

[Beetlejuice]

You are on shaky ground trying to claim that producer manipulation is favouring Marc when Violent thugs Danny and Aisleyne haven't been ejected by those same producers, despite targetting mark with threats and violence.

He's been immune for 4 evictions in a row and the one person who could beat him in an eviction vote has been put despite only receiving 2 noms when people in the past who had 3 didn't face the public vote.

As for Danny/Aisleyne. I don't like either of them. But it's perfectly clear Marc goads them and prods away at them, as he has done everyone in the house since he entered. Let's not pretend he's an innocent little victim.

And as far I can tell Danny and Aisleyne seem to be reinforcing his popularity. So it all seems to be working in his favour doesn't it?

[billy123]

How many noms did everybody get, do you remember. I'm very ready to agree with you if jack had less than the other three.

according to the wiki.

Marc 6
Sam 6
Harry 4
Jack 2

It is an utter nonsense that Jack is up.

[Beetlejuice]

Yes Jack had less. I think he only had 2, and the others had 6 or 4.

But nobody is denying the producers make this up as they go along. They want a big head to head essentially with Jack and Marc and want a team smug member up with the 4in4out housemates. It will also bring them lots of voting revenue.

Alternatively... They wanted the one person who they knew had a good chance of going over Marc up. Sam and Harry don;t inspire much negative feeling, but Jack does. So it's more likely he was put up to save Marc, just as Jackie Travers was put up to save the others when she went, despite only having 2 noms whilst the others all had more.

[Beetlejuice]

according to the wiki.

Marc 5
Harry 4
Sam 4
Jack 2

It is an utter nonsense that Jack is up.

As I recall it Marc had 6, so did Sam and Harry had 4.

[Beetlejuice]

according to the wiki.

Marc 5
Harry 4
Sam 4
Jack 2

It is an utter nonsense that Jack is up.

It makes sense once you realize it was the best chance to save Marc. The guy the producers are biased against apparently.

[billy123]

As I recall it Marc had 6, so did Sam and Harry had 4.Yes you are right i forgot about Aisleynes votes for marc and sam.


Marc 6
Sam 6
Harry 4
Jack 2

[ThriceShy]

He's been immune for 4 evictions in a row and the one person who could beat him in an eviction vote has been put despite only receiving 2 noms when people in the past who had 3 didn't face the public vote.

As for Danny/Aisleyne. I don't like either of them. But it's perfectly clear Marc goads them and prods away at them, as he has done everyone in the house since he entered. Let's not pretend he's an innocent little victim.

And as far I can tell Danny and Aisleyne seem to be reinforcing his popularity. So it all seems to be working in his favour doesn't it?


It does, to be fair.

I can't argue that the producers do what they want and seem to favour who they want. I am with you on this. I want a return to proper BB with harsh nomination rules and no outside contact.

But the feeling I get with you is that you are only complaining because it is marc being favoured. If they made team danny immune would you be complaining,

[Withano]

according to the wiki.

Marc 6
Sam 6
Harry 4
Jack 2

It is an utter nonsense that Jack is up.

Thanks bobnot. That is absolutely disgraceful! Makes no sense whatsoever. But I agree with Thriceshy. I think they want a head to head. They are gonna freeze the lines and reopen it between Marc and Jack and cash in thousands within minutes.

And to beetlejuice, I agree it is an absolute joke, clearly an attempt for a Marc win. He'd be out with 70% had Jack not have been up.

[ThriceShy]

But if you lads are so sure of Marc being so nasty and hated then you should believe he will beat anyone.

And how could it be fair for the close-knit gang of original housemates to pick of the newbies. That is what would happen if BB kept to the original nom rules.

[BB1984]

But if you lads are so sure of Marc being so nasty and hated then you should believe he will beat anyone.

And how could it be fair for the close-knit gang of original housemates to pick of the newbies. That is what would happen if BB kept to the original nom rules.

The original HM's pick on newbies & form a clique. I would perfer if BB discourage such behaviour as it usually means tatically nominating on not much else other then who was there longest.

[ozzyshaggah]

its very simple
all the people with the 3 highest numbers of votes are all up for eviction

in this case everybody that has 6 , 4, or 2 votes is up for eviction

[Withano]

its very simple
all the people with the 3 highest numbers of votes are all up for eviction

in this case everybody that has 6 , 4, or 2 votes is up for eviction

I think the point is that they've never(?) used 'the 4 or more people with the most votes' rationale before.. 2, yes.. 3, yes.. Everybody with 1 vote or more, yes. I don't remember this rationale being used before, seems very convenient, don't you agree?

[reece(:]

Jack is up so the producers can be protect Marq

[ThriceShy]

I think the point is that they've never(?) used 'the 4 or more people with the most votes' rationale before.. 2, yes.. 3, yes.. Everybody with 1 vote or more, yes. I don't remember this rationale being used before, seems very convenient, don't you agree?

It is convenient. BB want a big head to head with Jack and Marc. What is wrong with that?

And if you are so confident that marc is so nasty and will go then you should relish him going over jack, shouldn't you?

[Beetlejuice]

It does, to be fair.

I can't argue that the producers do what they want and seem to favour who they want. I am with you on this. I want a return to proper BB with harsh nomination rules and no outside contact.

But the feeling I get with you is that you are only complaining because it is marc being favoured. If they made team danny immune would you be complaining,

Honestly, I have struggled to find one housemate to like this year. I find Danny a bore, with a bit of decency to him. Joel is impressive but not especially likeable. Nick has disappeared but I do still quite like him. Sam is a drip. Harry is a moody cow. Cristian is just cringeworthy. I've actually started to warm to Jack the most, just for his honesty about wanting to stay and trying to turn everything around for himself. And I forgot about Chloe.

[billy123]

It is convenient. BB want a big head to head with Jack and Marc. What is wrong with that?

And if you are so confident that marc is so nasty and will go then you should relish him going over jack, shouldn't you?Once again you completely miss the point :facepalm: Messing with the nomination process to produce the result that the producers want is out of order whoever is up.

[Pete.]

Once again you completely miss the point :facepalm: Messing with the nomination process to produce the result that the producers want is out of order whoever is up.
:clap1:

[Withano]

Once again you completely miss the point :facepalm: Messing with the nomination process to produce the result that the producers want is out of order whoever is up.

Ahaha, this user really is the definition of missing the point. Most of the time, I feel like it might be a parody account, but their relentlessness makes me lose hope.

(sorry for the choice of pronouns thriceshy, haven't learnt your gender yet)

[Beetlejuice]

its very simple
all the people with the 3 highest numbers of votes are all up for eviction

That's a new rule that has never been explained before.

in this case everybody that has 6 , 4, or 2 votes is up for eviction

Why not the 3 or more with the most noms... Marc, Sam and Harry?

Why not the 2 or more with the mosts noms like the old days... Marc and Sam?

The fact is they pull this "Anyone with 2 noms is up" rule out of their arses to get certain people out over others. In this case, to get Jack out over Marc.

[ThriceShy]

That's a new rule that has never been explained before.



Why not the 3 or more with the most noms... Marc, Sam and Harry?

Why not the 2 or more with the mosts noms like the old days... Marc and Sam?

The fact is they pull this "Anyone with 2 noms is up" rule out of their arses to get certain people out over others. In this case, to get Jack out over Marc.


Diddums.

The gang of bullying bores, who will never nominate each other, haven't been allowed to block vote the newbies out.

[Beetlejuice]

Diddums.

The gang of bullying bores, who will never nominate each other, haven't been allowed to block vote the newbies out.

Who are these bullying bores? I know you think Danny is... But Cristian? Chloe? Seriously? They're bullies?

What's wrong with people becoming close and not nominating each other exactly? Surely this just shows a certain loyalty between them. More loyalty than Marc ever showed to Jade.

[ThriceShy]

Who are these bullying bores? I know you think Danny is... But Cristian? Chloe? Seriously? They're bullies?

What's wrong with people becoming close and not nominating each other exactly? Surely this just shows a certain loyalty between them. More loyalty than Marc ever showed to Jade.

Chloe's bullying tonight was disgusting. When she was laughing at Aisleyne saying marc had a disability between his legs. It actually reminded me of JO and Danielle laughing while jade attacked shilpa.

Christian is well involved with the bullying of marc and always backs danny.

[Beetlejuice]

Chloe's bullying tonight was disgusting. When she was laughing at Aisleyne saying marc had a disability between his legs. It actually reminded me of JO and Danielle laughing while jade attacked shilpa.

Christian is well involved with the bullying of marc and always backs danny.

I see. I don't agree with any of it. But you know that already.

[ThriceShy]

I see. I don't agree with any of it. But you know that already.

You didn't see chloe sniggering tonight?

[mimosveta]

Some people seem to think the producers are gunning for Marc (their obvious favourite), yet the one person who could beat Marc in an unpopularity contest is Jack who only received 2 nominations. So Marc has been immune from eviction for 4 weeks and then when he is finally up, they make sure to put Jack up despite earlier on in the series Jade and Joel received 3 nominations and didn't face the public vote.

Another example of producer manipulation to try to keep Marc in the house? Looks like it to me.

I'm hoping it's cause they plan double eviction. it's time for that, and it's the only thing that justifies scraping the bottom like that.

If it's not double eviction, then it's obviously done as a rig to save Marc for finals. :bawling:

[Ashley.]

You are on shaky ground trying to claim that producer manipulation is favouring Marc when Violent thugs Danny and Aisleyne haven't been ejected by those same producers, despite targetting mark with threats and violence.

But they're quite clearly favouring Marc. :joker: This has nothing to do with Danny and Ais.

[Ashley.]

I'm so sick of people tossing around the word "bullying".

All anyone has to do is breathe and they'd automatically become a bully.

[BB4fan]

Who are these bullying bores? I know you think Danny is... But Cristian? Chloe? Seriously? They're bullies?

What's wrong with people becoming close and not nominating each other exactly? Surely this just shows a certain loyalty between them. More loyalty than Marc ever showed to Jade.

Danny and Aisylene are bullies, but I wouldn't think of the rest as but I do tend to notice that the originals always nominate the newbies simply because that's how the original bores work.

[BB4fan]

Chloe's bullying tonight was disgusting. When she was laughing at Aisleyne saying marc had a disability between his legs. It actually reminded me of JO and Danielle laughing while jade attacked shilpa.

Christian is well involved with the bullying of marc and always backs danny.

Marc was right about one thing if Danny took a **** on the floor Cristian would think of it as a present and eat it.

[Beetlejuice]

You didn't see chloe sniggering tonight?

I saw her not be able to stop herself laughing at one of the comments. I'd hardly describe that as bullying.

[Beetlejuice]

Danny and Aisylene are bullies

I see less evidence for this than I do for Marc being one.

but I wouldn't think of the rest as but I do tend to notice that the originals always nominate the newbies simply because that's how the original bores work.

The originals all seemed to get on well. Why would they nominate each other?

[BB4fan]

You didn't see chloe sniggering tonight?

Chloe is just a brown noser with no real personality.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Diddums.

The gang of bullying bores, who will never nominate each other, haven't been allowed to block vote the newbies out.

and you came blame your precious Marc for uniting the original HMs tbh

[BB4fan]

I see less evidence for this than I do for Marc being one.



The originals all seemed to get on well. Why would they nominate each other?


They have it in for anyone who came in after them. Wouldn't matter if they were saints they'd still find dull reasons to nominate them. Danny saying he found Sam to be fame hungry one time is rich coming from him.

[Beetlejuice]

I'm so sick of people tossing around the word "bullying".

All anyone has to do is breathe and they'd automatically become a bully.

If this is in regards to Marc, that's just wrong imo. As I have repeatedly said... He has prodded away at people, invaded their personal space, goaded them, made numerous insulting remarks, manipulated situations to get away with this and make others look bad. He has tried to isolate people (Harry - before the bunker), abused whatever power he has had in the house, riled situations up, spoken over people and belittled them.

This is bully boy behaviour. And the word that is overused is the other B word "Banter" to try and make it all look like fun and games, when it is often anything but.

[Beetlejuice]

They have it in for anyone who came in after them.

The newbies were specifically chosen to cause conflict and drama in the house. They were brought in because the original housemates were thought to have been getting on too well. It is hardly surprising then that many of the originals nominate the newbies rather than each other.

Wouldn't matter if they were saints they'd still find dull reasons to nominate them. Danny saying he found Sam to be fame hungry one time is rich coming from him.

Maybe so, but so what?

[BB4fan]

I see less evidence for this than I do for Marc being

Threatening to get family members onto him, getting in his face, making remarks about his psychical appearance including his penis size. Let's not forget Danny throwing food at him and Aisylene calling him nasty names on the latest episode.

Sounds to me like two nasty playground bullying thugs. Marc's not acted like a fame hungry chav.

[Ashley.]

If this is in regards to Marc, that's just wrong imo. As I have repeatedly said... He has prodded away at people, invaded their personal space, goaded them, made numerous insulting remarks, manipulated situations to get away with this and make others look bad. He has tried to isolate people (Harry - before the bunker), abused whatever power he has had in the house, riled situations up, spoken over people and belittled them.

This is bully boy behaviour. And the word that is overused is the other B word "Banter" to try and make it all look like fun and games, when it is often anything but.

It's in regards to comments I've seen when people have used this word as a "quick fix". In your case, yes, that can be seen as bullying techniques.

[BB4fan]

Maybe so, but so what?

The excuses they use to nominate them some times seem rather petty. That's it really.

[Beetlejuice]

Threatening to get family members onto him, getting in his face, making remarks about his psychical appearance including his penis size. Let's not forget Danny throwing food at him and Aisylene calling him nasty names on the latest episode.

Aisleyne was getting on reasonably well with Marc until he gunned for. He even said he was going to go after her on the day Helen and Nikki left when in the diary room. Things have escalated from there. But you can't celebrate Marc for being a wind up merchant (a very nice way of describing his behaviour) and then call people who react, albeit in an aggressive manner, bullies. Bullies generally instigate the behaviour. Marc has prodded away at people and goaded them repeatedly.

Sounds to me like two nasty playground bullying thugs. Marc's not acted like a fame hungry chav.

He's been acting like a fame hungry chav since he walked into the show. Hence him making very insulting remarks, almost being involved in a fight and being given multiple warnings for his language and behaviour.

[Beetlejuice]

The excuses they use to nominate them some times seem rather petty. That's it really.

I'm sure if they nominated the other originals they would seem even more ridiculous

[BB4fan]

Aisleyne was getting on reasonably well with Marc until he gunned for. He even said he was going to go after her on the day Helen and Nikki left when in the diary room. Things have escalated from there. But you can't celebrate Marc for being a wind up merchant (a very nice way of describing his behaviour) and then call people who react, albeit in an aggressive manner, bullies. Bullies generally instigate the behaviour. Marc has prodded away at people and goaded them repeatedly.

.

So how can you explain Danny's behavior and constantly involving himself in conversations that don't concern him? He seems to butt in on Marc every chance he gets.

Not saying he isn't a wind up but Danny's behavior and now Aisylene's is turning into nothing but nit picking. Aisylene kept on and on in that latest episode and Marc just seems to be an easy target.

[Josy]

2 or more noms.

[armand.kay]

You are on shaky ground trying to claim that producer manipulation is favouring Marc when Violent thugs Danny and Aisleyne haven't been ejected by those same producers, despite targetting mark with threats and violence.

The producers want all 3 in because of the drama they're causing.

[armand.kay]

2 or more noms.

Please!!
Edit: I thought you meant that it should be taken back to the 2 or more hms with the most noms welp.

[Macie Lightfoot]

2 or more noms.

Whenever it suits production

[Beetlejuice]

2 or more noms.

Nonsense. Jade and Joel had 3 noms in week 1. Neither faced the public vote.

As you well know, 2 or more noms and you're up is only used when they are trying to get the person with 2 noms out over someone else (first used during BB14 to get Jackie Travers out).

The fact is, for all the talk about producer's being against Marc, they have set it up so that he can survive his first eviction by putting Jack up with all of 2 noms whilst Marc and Sam got 6 each.

It's a shame the show has got itself into such a state.

[Beetlejuice]

I'm also sensing a hatchet job on Jack incoming for tonight's show.

[Robertocarlo]

Some people seem to think the producers are gunning for Marc (their obvious favourite), yet the one person who could beat Marc in an unpopularity contest is Jack who only received 2 nominations. So Marc has been immune from eviction for 4 weeks and then when he is finally up, they make sure to put Jack up despite earlier on in the series Jade and Joel received 3 nominations and didn't face the public vote.

Another example of producer manipulation to try to keep Marc in the house? Looks like it to me.

You ask why is Jack up for eviction? The simple answer is fat Jack is a miserable, backstabbing slug that's why. Vote for Jack to be evicted. You know it makes sense!!!

[Beetlejuice]

You ask why is Jack up for eviction? The simple answer is fat Jack is a miserable, backstabbing slug that's why. Vote for Jack to be evicted. You know it makes sense!!!

Alternatively, don't let the producers rig the show and destroy it any further and vote for Marc.

[Robertocarlo]

Alternatively, don't let the producers rig the show and destroy it any further and vote for Marc.

Nahh. Vote for Jack it's more logical. Marc brings entertainment Jack just offers misery and moaning.