Does Harry Have Borderline Personality Disorder?

[Chilltown]

Her behavior has been a clear indicator that she might have this. Has it ever been mentioned in the house?

[just thinkin]

No and no. She's living with a houseful of niggtmares. Thats all.

[Calderyon]

You have to ask a psychiatrist for that.

Anyone would crumble in that house though, full of negativity and rarely any fun.

[lewis111]

Honestly all it is is that she is the only interesting one in a bunch of boring housemates, so it looks like she's weird and off. Throw her in ANY other series, she'dget half the screen time and called the most normal

[middlebrother]

It hasn't been mentioned on air.

She certainly meets the minimum criteria and given that she's made it clear on several occasions that she holds back her behaviour in the house, I'm sure to think she is. Most likely undiagnosed as she demonstrates any awareness of mindfulness/DBT/other techniques to help her in her "moments".

While it's nice that she's been embraced in the house in spite of her behaviour, it saddens me that she's become popular on the outside because that could potentially reinforce an idea that her behaviour is good or healthy, which could affect her willingness to seek out appropriate care and treatment.

I'm also severely concerned that the BB psychologist/s haven't intervened because she's showed signs of disturbing psychological behaviour.

[vafunghoul]

No, she has control issues. She turns things around on everyone to deflect from herself. When she seeks attention out of pity she mopes and shuts down. That is not a personality disorder because it is calculated. Would not be surprised if she had something terrible happen to her in her childhood that spawned out of control and helped her develop a need to control others. Nick is her perfect victim. Yes victim. Too easily manipulated. Seeing him lose it and sleep in diff bed only for her to come yet again and manipulate him emotionally just shows how she's continuing this cycle of mental manipulation that was possibly done to her at some point. She needs help.

[Tarryn]

Why are some on here trying to medically diagnose a HM's behaviour while only watching them for less than 1 hour a night ?.
Unless a HM is quiet, perfect & shows no anger then they have a serious personality disorder (?).
Leave her alone.
We all have different issues, none of us are perfect.
If you don't like Harry then leave it at that but don't try to heap more hatred on her by saying she is mentally ill.

[vafunghoul]

She needs therapy. Period. ;)

[jaxie]

Why are some on here trying to medically diagnose a HM's behaviour while only watching them for less than 1 hour a night ?.
Unless a HM is quiet, perfect & shows no anger then they have a serious personality disorder (?).
Leave her alone.
We all have different issues, none of us are perfect.
If you don't like Harry then leave it at that but don't try to heap more hatred on her by saying she is mentally ill.

She has a very very short fuse and most people don't not like that, not over the tiniest little comments. People then look for a reason, why is she like this. It isn't regular behaviour I don't know anyone who gets so angry over nothing and then has to punch a wall frequently. There must be some reason why she acts this way so either she is horrible and violent or there is something wrong. Most people go with something wrong as its easier to understand and accept than thinking she is just horrible and its probably the most likely scenario.

[Tarryn]

She has a very very short fuse and most people don't not like that, not over the tiniest little comments. People then look for a reason, why is she like this. It isn't regular behaviour I don't know anyone who gets so angry over nothing and then has to punch a wall frequently. There must be some reason why she acts this way so either she is horrible and violent or there is something wrong. Most people go with something wrong as its easier to understand and accept than thinking she is just horrible and its probably the most likely scenario.

Everybody has a different way of handling/coping in situations.
For all her anger, at least she has not been nasty like some HM's.
It's really none of our business to comment on a HM's mental issues.
It's just way too personal & wrong.
Why would anyone want to know ?.
Does it make some feel better if another person struggles :shrug:

[Josy]

TiBB's resident psychiatrist should be along shortly to answer this

[REDCROP]

If Harry is mental then she's in good company

Helen who threw her cup against the wall
Danny who smashed up the dinner then stuck his nose 3cm from Marcs face
Brian who had to be restrained by 3 of the blokes
Aisleyne who threatened to kick Marcs head in then tell her dad
Chloe who hurled verbal & physical abuse & threats at Marc before throwing a glass at him
Niki who went into melt down because a corn flake landed on her head
Christian who turns into Kanye West 12 times a day while the other idiots pretend its normal
Jack who has a nervous breakdown when nominated and believed he had 200,00 followers
Simon who acts like Liza Minelli on a cocktail of LSD and Red Bull
and Marc...LOL...no words needed

I think Harry fits in just great....also the only 2 housemates to admit they are bonkers are her and Marc.....the other idiots actually believe they are all normal...LOL...LOL.

[Tarryn]

If Harry is mental then she's in good company

Helen who threw her cup against the wall
Danny who smashed up the dinner then stuck his nose 3cm from Marcs face
Brian who had to be restrained by 3 of the blokes
Aisleyne who threatened to kick Marcs head in then tell her dad
Chloe who hurled verbal & physical abuse & threats at Marc before throwing a glass at him
Niki who went into melt down because a corn flake landed on her head
Christian who turns into Kanye West 12 times a day while the other idiots pretend its normal
Jack who has a nervous breakdown when nominated and believed he had 200,00 followers
Simon who acts like Liza Minelli on a cocktail of LSD and Red Bull
and Marc...LOL...no words needed

I think Harry fits in just great....also the only 2 housemates to admit they are bonkers are her and Marc.....the other idiots actually believe they are all normal...LOL...LOL.

:clap1:
Exactly. All HM's past & present display some kind of strange behaviour while in there yet only some get labelled with the "mental illness" tag.
Awful.

[abhorson]

The postman always rings twice at her house!

[vafunghoul]

If Harry is mental then she's in good company

Helen who threw her cup against the wall
Danny who smashed up the dinner then stuck his nose 3cm from Marcs face
Brian who had to be restrained by 3 of the blokes
Aisleyne who threatened to kick Marcs head in then tell her dad
Chloe who hurled verbal & physical abuse & threats at Marc before throwing a glass at him
Niki who went into melt down because a corn flake landed on her head
Christian who turns into Kanye West 12 times a day while the other idiots pretend its normal
Jack who has a nervous breakdown when nominated and believed he had 200,00 followers
Simon who acts like Liza Minelli on a cocktail of LSD and Red Bull
and Marc...LOL...no words needed

I think Harry fits in just great....also the only 2 housemates to admit they are bonkers are her and Marc.....the other idiots actually believe they are all normal...LOL...LOL.

You can find a handful of incidents on every HG. Problem is the constant.
Harry has been continuous in her mental manipulation of Nick and acting out when she doesn't get her way. Like I said previously. A control issue. When cornered or called out there is no genuine sign of compassion or acknowledgement for anyone but herself. That is a sign of someone who needs to get some issues resolved.

[Gusto Brunt]

She needs therapy. Period. ;)

She is disturbed and dangerous. No laughing matter.

[Tarryn]

You can find a handful of incidents on every HG. Problem is the constant.
Harry has been continuous in her mental manipulation of Nick and acting out when she doesn't get her way. Like I said previously. A control issue. When cornered or called out there is no genuine sign of compassion or acknowledgement for anyone but herself. That is a sign of someone who needs to get some issues resolved.

Helen or Marc never showed any genuine compassion for others either & were constant in their awful behaviour.
So that's three mental patients so far this series then..............

[vafunghoul]

Helen or Marc never showed any genuine compassion for others either & were constant in their awful behaviour.
So that's three mental patients so far this series then..............

Nope.
Helen perhaps. Was always miserable.
Marc? One on one he'd go back and apologize. Not a perfect soul either but ask yourself this...
has Harry EVER apologized or taken ownership over her faults, spats or tantrums to anyone in that house?
The answer is no.
That is yet another sign of a gal with, you know...issues that need treatment. :wavey:

[bots]

Has anyone considered that its a game show, not real life, because it doesn't seem so :laugh:

Harry is doing just fine getting people talking about her, i don't consider it any more than game play

[REDCROP]

You can find a handful of incidents on every HG. Problem is the constant.
Harry has been continuous in her mental manipulation of Nick and acting out when she doesn't get her way. Like I said previously. A control issue. When cornered or called out there is no genuine sign of compassion or acknowledgement for anyone but herself. That is a sign of someone who needs to get some issues resolved.

Oh wow, thats harsh, i was being ironic and trying to make light of this ugly concept....i find her to be the most honest person in there and highly intelligent...she's also extremely loyal...she also not only one of the few housemates with the strength to stand up to Marc when he was being a nob but also the strength to be the only person to defend Marc when Brian was being a nob, surely that takes restraint and integrity, esp to stand up for someones defence even when you don't like that person but purely because it was the right thing to do...she's def a bit mad but i find others just as mad...Chloe, Danny, Brian, Aisleyne and Helen have all been physically violent, Harry hasn't...and Chloe's lack of empathy and self serving behaviour is shocking to observe

I'm very much against people giving confirmation of someones mental stability when they have not examined that person and may not even be a medical person....to seriously brand someone with the stigma of mental illness is just so awful and I'm amazed that they are so freely doing the same thing on BOTS too...

[Papillon]

Why are some on here trying to medically diagnose a HM's behaviour while only watching them for less than 1 hour a night ?.
Unless a HM is quiet, perfect & shows no anger then they have a serious personality disorder (?).
Leave her alone.
We all have different issues, none of us are perfect.
If you don't like Harry then leave it at that but don't try to heap more hatred on her by saying she is mentally ill.

I'm just waiting for a FM to say Harry has Autistic Tendencies. :whistle:

[vafunghoul]

Has anyone considered that its a game show, not real life, because it doesn't seem so :laugh:

Harry is doing just fine getting people talking about her, i don't consider it any more than game play

That may account for a lot with all of them/Knowing they are on camera.
But with all the spats where their frustrations build up and spill out? I think we've seen all of them go ahead and apologize for their actions with the exception of her and perhaps Danny who's only really apologized once.

But your bring up a good pint. Maybe we the viewers need the damn therapy from letting this show get to us.

:joker:

[Vanessa]

She's as interesting as toothache.

[Gusto Brunt]

She's as interesting as toothache.

Toothache would be very interesting if she had it.:joker::cheer2::cheer2:

[REDCROP]

Nope.
Helen perhaps. Was always miserable.
Marc? One on one he'd go back and apologize. Not a perfect soul either but ask yourself this...
has Harry EVER apologized or taken ownership over her faults, spats or tantrums to anyone in that house?
The answer is no.
That is yet another sign of a gal with, you know...issues that need treatment. :wavey:

Maybe she believes she's right and stands behind her own convictions and maybe, just maybe so do all the others but they're not honest enough to be seen in a bad light or strong enough to go against the crowd, so instead they go crawling back time and time again to give their fake forgiveness...

[Vanessa]

Toothache would be very interesting if she had it.:joker::cheer2::cheer2:

She annoys me so much. My 5 year old nephew has less tantrums than her.

[Dollface]

Why are some on here trying to medically diagnose a HM's behaviour while only watching them for less than 1 hour a night ?.
Unless a HM is quiet, perfect & shows no anger then they have a serious personality disorder (?).
Leave her alone.
We all have different issues, none of us are perfect.
If you don't like Harry then leave it at that but don't try to heap more hatred on her by saying she is mentally ill.

:clap1: I'm constantly pointing that out to people on here

I guess anyone can be a psychiatrist nowadays

[jaxie]

I'm just waiting for a FM to say Harry has Autistic Tendencies. :whistle:

No she doesn't have any signs of that at all.

If anyone is like a mild asbergers its Joel but I don't think he is either. I worked with autistic children for a few years and even with autism there can be dramatic differences.

People speculate. :shrug:

[REDCROP]

i can't bear this awful smear campaign thats based on unfounded opinion rather than observation and fact....this is someones life you're attacking, not their game playing or their annoying personalty in the house ...its wrong..even if someone does have mental health issues that does not constitute this type of targeted abuse...no better than racism, sexism or homophobia...

I would personally question the mental health of the person who has set up this thread just as a negative tool to abuse someone that they believe to be vulnerable.....you should be ashamed

[REDCROP]

She annoys me so much. My 5 year old nephew has less tantrums than her.

And what type of parent would constitute the open targeted attack of someone who they believe to be vulnerable who is also unable to defend themselves because they don't know whats being said about them....shame on you

[jaxie]

i can't bear this awful smear campaign thats based on unfounded opinion rather than observation and fact....this is someones life you're attacking, not their game playing or their annoying personalty in the house ...its wrong..even if someone does have mental health issues that does not constitute this type of targeted abuse...no better than racism, sexism or homophobia...

I would personally question the mental health of the person who has set up this thread just as a negative tool to abuse someone that they believe to be vulnerable.....you should be ashamed
Fair enough lets not search for ways to justify how she acts and say then that Harry has no problems, deserves no sympathy and is just a vicious brat who has tantrums. :shrug:

But actually its far nicer to search for an explanation that's more beyond her control to explain how she acts.

[Robodog]

I know two people with borderline personality disorder and i have also thought myself that Harry may have that too.

I first thought it about her on the night that Nick wanted his own bed and she just couldn't leave him there, she had to get him back, despite there being friction between them.

There is a book about BPD called 'I hate you - don't leave me'. This title sums up the contradictory nature of BPD; issues with attachment/abandonment even when there is constant conflict with the other person in that relationship.

BY the way, most of us encounter mental health issues in our life at some point, either ourselves or others close to us. It's fine to talk about it, whether in ourselves or in others, so long as we do not judge and dismiss others (or ourselves) because of it. As a sufferer of mental health issues myself i'd say Harry definitely has some too and she'd be the first to admit it i'm sure.

Doesn't make anyone a worse person for having mental health issues.

[vafunghoul]

i can't bear this awful smear campaign thats based on unfounded opinion rather than observation and fact....this is someones life you're attacking, not their game playing or their annoying personalty in the house ...its wrong..even if someone does have mental health issues that does not constitute this type of targeted abuse...no better than racism, sexism or homophobia...

I would personally question the mental health of the person who has set up this thread just as a negative tool to abuse someone that they believe to be vulnerable.....you should be ashamed

Abuse? Are you kidding me?
It's a friggen discussion. They signed up for a show.
Their actions, good and bad are up for discussion.
Quick run under the covers the sky is falling. Everyone is draining her bank account, stabbing her with words leaving her bloodied!!!

It's just opinions. debate them if you disagree. They are no more valid than those defending her because the topic may strike a nerve.

[Vanessa]

And what type of parent would constitute the open targeted attack of someone who they believe to be vulnerable who is also unable to defend themselves because they don't know whats being said about them....shame on you

Oh please. This is Big Brother. Housemates are always discussed. This is what they sign up for.

[REDCROP]

Fair enough lets not search for ways to justify how she acts and say then that Harry has no problems, deserves no sympathy and is just a vicious brat who has tantrums. :shrug:

What sympathy ?...You haven't shown any...you're just behaving like a coward who's part of some sick little witch hunt aimed at giving a total stranger who's not here to defend themselves the stigma of mental illness....

Ever considered that your behaviour is not stable ? I find it deeply offensive and disgusting....AND very immature

[Vanessa]

Abuse? Are you kidding me?
It's a friggen discussion. They signed up for a show.
Their actions, good and bad are up for discussion.
Quick run under the covers the sky is falling. Everyone is draining her bank account, stabbing her with words leaving her bloodied!!!

It's just opinions. debate them if you disagree. They are no more valid than those defending her because the topic may strike a nerve.

I know, right? Why can't we discussed the housemates? :shrug:

[jaxie]

What sympathy ?...You haven't shown any...you're just behaving like a coward who's part of some sick little witch hunt aimed at giving a total stranger who's not here to defend themselves the stigma of mental illness....

Ever considered that your behaviour is not stable ? I find it deeply offensive and disgusting....AND very immature
This isn't about me. :shrug: And then if you ever read what I said instead of reacting you'd see its not witch hunty at all.

And targeting forum members is against the rules.

[REDCROP]

If she is vulnerable or has mental health issues then wouldn't it be more human and normal to want to support her and give her a boost of self esteem rather than tear her down and attack her...if she was a blind housemate or physically disabled you would never dream of this cowardly behaviour....people on here who just don't like her and believe she's being a nob are doing nothing wrong by making negative comments about her...about any of the housemates....but if you are one of those sanctimonious types who feel qualified to believe that she has actual illness then the way you are behaving is shameful and i personally would question your state of mind

[empire]

the producers may of known that she has a disorder of some kind, the tv industry is a very corrupt place in the world, big brother is no different in setting up housemates to look good or bad, inside the house your being played at,

[REDCROP]

This isn't about me. :shrug: And then if you ever read what I said instead of reacting you'd see its not witch hunty at all.

And targeting forum members is against the rules.

Who accused you of targeting forum members ? Seems you have your facts wrong.... i don't feel in the least bit targeted by this or in the least bit intimidated either....the person you are targeting isn't a forum member ...they aren't here to defend themselves

Im reacting to something i see as very improper and wrong...i aint targeting anybody..im merely defending someone who isn't here to defend themselves against accusations that are completely unfounded

[jaxie]

If she is vulnerable or has mental health issues then wouldn't it be more human and normal to want to support her and give her a boost of self esteem rather than tear her down and attack her...if she was a blind housemate or physically disabled you would never dream of this cowardly behaviour....people on here who just don't like her and believe she's being a nob are doing nothing wrong by making negative comments about her...about any of the housemates....but if you are one of those sanctimonious types who feel qualified to believe that she has actual illness then the way you are behaving is shameful and i personally would question your state of mind

I've already said in another thread I feel a bit sorry for her but thats neither here nor there. This is big brother, we discuss the housemates. I think maybe you should take a step back from the computer, get a bit of sunshine and fresh air and calm down a bit.

[jaxie]

Who accused you of targeting forum members ? Seems you have your facts wrong.... i don't feel in the least bit targeted by this or in the least bit intimidated either....the person you are targeting isn't a forum member ...they aren't here to defend themselves

Im reacting to something i see as very improper and wrong...i aint targeting anybody..im merely defending someone who isn't here to defend themselves against accusations that are completely unfounded

You are targeting me with personal remarks. :shrug:

[sampvt]

I've already said in another thread I feel a bit sorry for her but thats neither here nor there. This is big brother, we discuss the housemates. I think maybe you should take a step back from the computer, get a bit of sunshine and fresh air and calm down a bit.

You both need to bugger off and cool down, you are ruining the mood in here. Harry knows she cant win and all she is doing is acting up to get as much airtime as possible. Its as plain as day so simmer down or I will hose you both down, get it. got it gooooood.

[vafunghoul]

Who accused you of targeting forum members ? Seems you have your facts wrong.... i don't feel in the least bit targeted by this or in the least bit intimidated either....the person you are targeting isn't a forum member ...they aren't here to defend themselves

Im reacting to something i see as very improper and wrong...i aint targeting anybody..im merely defending someone who isn't here to defend themselves against accusations that are completely unfounded

That is your opinion.
But by that logic, ANY negative comments should be off limits since HG's aren't here to defend themselves.

The mere definition of an opinion and subjective interpretation is a conclusion that is unfounded. It's just a damn opinion. Is that so hard to comprehend? No one is diagnosing her.

[REDCROP]

I've already said in another thread I feel a bit sorry for her but thats neither here nor there. This is big brother, we discuss the housemates. I think maybe you should take a step back from the computer, get a bit of sunshine and fresh air and calm down a bit.

I'm completely calm but you obviously think you can diagnose my state of mental health now as well...wow, you must be an amazing medic...
You are right tho...this is Big Brother....and when Helen used the same language about Brian that you have been using here, she was seriously reprimanded for it and many people believed she should have been evicted because of it..

This type of thread is not what Big Brother would endorse

[Jason.]

She's as interesting as toothache.

http://cdn.thisisbigbrother.com/customavatars/avatar65602_730.gif

[vafunghoul]

I'm completely calm but you obviously think you can diagnose my state of mental health now as well...wow, you must be an amazing medic...
You are right tho...this is Big Brother....and when Helen used the same language about Brian that you have been using here, she was seriously reprimanded for it and many people believed she should have been evicted because of it..

This type of thread is not what Big Brother would endorse

I completely agree with you here.

I also hope you understand that my previous posts are not directed maliciously towards you. Just stating my opinions. In the end, I can agree to disagree. Doesn't mean I don't respect your opinions or anyone's no matter how much we banter back and forth and disagree.

[REDCROP]

That is your opinion.
But by that logic, ANY negative comments should be off limits since HG's aren't here to defend themselves.

The mere definition of an opinion and subjective interpretation is a conclusion that is unfounded. It's just a damn opinion. Is that so hard to comprehend? No one is diagnosing her.

you're correct any type of open criticism or negative opinion is what the show is open for and about...but not negative attacks on a persons disability....if she was blind or physically disabled you wouldn't dream of doing it so whats the difference....if you REALY believe she has a disability why on earth would you attack her and laugh at her for it ?

[abhorson]

you're correct any type of open criticism or negative opinion is what the show is open for and about...but not negative attacks on a persons disability....if she was blind or physically disabled you wouldn't dream of doing it so whats the difference....if you REALY believe she has a disability why on earth would you attack her and laugh at her for it ?

Is it OK to call her mad:laugh:

[vafunghoul]

you're correct any type of open criticism or negative opinion is what the show is open for and about...but not negative attacks on a persons disability....if she was blind or physically disabled you wouldn't dream of doing it so whats the difference....if you REALY believe she has a disability why on earth would you attack her and laugh at her for it ?

I'm not laughing at her. I believe she needs help to resolve some issues.

We've all called someone crazy (and worse) while driving and getting cut off yes? It's an opinion on someone actions/behavior.

:shrug:

[REDCROP]

I completely agree with you here.

I also hope you understand that my previous posts are not directed maliciously towards you. Just stating my opinions. In the end, I can agree to disagree. Doesn't mean I don't respect your opinions or anyone's no matter how much we banter back and forth and disagree.

Thanks for saying that....and i know this is not against me....and sometimes we don't know we are offending people until some one tells us...if i offend anyone i would also want to be told so i at least have a choice weather i change my actions or not ... it is a respectful thing to confront people sometimes ....and also a respectful thing to defend what you believe to be true and you have

[Annie]

Harry doesn't have a personality disorder but she is showing some mental health problems. I am really surprised she hasn't been offered some form of coping mechanisms or strategies from the psychologists in the BB production team.
She always says she has "issues" but that does not justify that behaviour. She needs to find ways in which to settle herself and prevent any escalation of feelings; especially in such a closed off and small environment. I am actually surprised that she hasn't said to big brother that she wants to leave yet.

She is going to need a therapist or anger management when she leaves because its not healthy and her mental wellbeing should be top priority.

[REDCROP]

Is it OK to call her mad:laugh:

Im not trying to be all PC and Anal ....and I'm sure you're not a mean person....i think she's as mad as a mouse, thats why i like her, and she's the first to say it and laugh about it...as is Niki Graham and Marc all of which i like a lot.....it only starts getting sinister when people start saying they know shes got serious mental health issues...that she's dangerous...that she should be hated for it....one person, not on your thread had a thread the other day saying they know she is capable of stabbing some one....im sorry, I've got heavy here and i am def gonna leave your thread alone now,,,i just couldn't not speak out

I find her behaviour outrageous and funny and fascinating ...its the reason i like her and if anything it makes me wanna be for her rather than go against her

Good luck with your time on here mate

[ItWasJustBanter]

I don't think Harry has a personality disorder per se, rather the rest of her personalities have problem.

[abhorson]

Im not trying to be all PC and Anal ....and I'm sure you're not a mean person....i think she's as mad as a mouse, thats why i like her, and she's the first to say it and laugh about it...as is Niki Graham and Marc all of which i like a lot.....it only starts getting sinister when people start saying they know shes got serious mental health issues...that she's dangerous...that she should be hated for it....one person, not on your thread had a thread the other day saying they know she is capable of stabbing some one....im sorry, I've got heavy here and i am def gonna leave your thread alone now,,,i just couldn't not speak out

I find her behaviour outrageous and funny and fascinating ...its the reason i like her and if anything it makes me wanna be for her rather than go against her

Good luck with your time on here mate

YES. Would have sufficed!

[karezza]

She's an anti-social, histrionic, dependent narcissist.

http://www.4degreez.com/misc/personality_disorder_test.mv