One of the greatest or not in your eyes?

[Mike]

Now he's gone what do people think, one of the greatest HMs ever to grace our screens or was he really not your idea of entertainment?

[JessicaJaine]

Very overrated :idc:

[ebandit]

recently we felt the love for legends nikki and aisleyne..................

now imagine marks return in a number of years............how many

would remember/care?

Mark L

[M X]

Anyone who calls him one of the greatest housemates of all time has a VERY short memory. They probably say the same thing about Helen.

:rolleyes:

[Ashley.]

We'll have forgotten about him in a years time.

[joeysteele]

A great for me, this series would have been likely dead in the water weeks ago of he had never gone in,he went in and did all BB hoped from him.

Then over the last week particularly, he had to endure the hatchet job on him by BB and bbbots under Rylan even moreso, with panellist after panellist against him until the last night before his eviction.

So no doubt, one of the greats and one the most robbed as to being in the final at least too.

[Withano]

9th place in the worst series ever

[BigBuk]

If an annoying drama queen like Nikki and a guy who acts like he doesn't have a brain Brian are considered legends then yes easily.

What did Nikki do in her year? Fake rants and outbursts in the diary room that only gullible people believe was genuine and Brian, acted like he was stupid, who actually believes he didn't know who Shakespeare was?

[ItWasJustBanter]

Possibly the greatest of all time. Can't think of anyone that comes close tbphwyateotd.

[BigBuk]

9th place in the worst series ever

Where somebody finishes has no relevance to how good a HM they were fyi.

[ItWasJustBanter]

9th place in the worst series ever

How many stabs has Nikki the hobgoblin had at it now?

:cheer2::joker:

[mimosveta]

Now he's gone what do people think, one of the greatest HMs ever to grace our screens or was he really not your idea of entertainment?

he was and remains waste of space. No redeeming qualities with that one. hopeless as human being and insignificant as hm :sleep:

[Ashley.]

If an annoying drama queen like Nikki and a guy who acts like he doesn't have a brain Brian are considered legends then yes easily.

What did Nikki do in her year? Fake rants and outbursts in the diary room that only gullible people believe was genuine and Brian, acted like he was stupid, who actually believes he didn't know who Shakespeare was?

Yet 10 years later, they are known nationwide. Will Marc be remembered in 10 years time?

[BigBuk]

Yet 10 years later, they are known nationwide. Will Marc be remembered in 10 years time?

Nationwide? I know you're a BB fan but I'm sorry to inform you that a small percentage of the nation actually watch BB, therefore they're not known nationwide, they're Z-Lists.

Yes, I can safely say he will be by many, even people like yourself that dislike him will remember him, argue for arguments sake but it's true.

[T*]

not even close :umm2:

[waterhog]

voters spoiled it - only now can we see what a great game he played'

[Chuckyegg]

the biggest .......... that channel 5 has given us
but we wont remember who he is by the end of the year

[Pete.]

One of my bottom 10 housemates

[Pete.]

Nationwide? I know you're a BB fan but I'm sorry to inform you that a small percentage of the nation actually watch BB, therefore they're not known nationwide, they're Z-Lists.

Yes, I can safely say he will be by many, even people like yourself that dislike him will remember him, argue for arguments sake but it's true.
Nikki's vine page has got international acclaim

[ebandit]

Where somebody finishes has no relevance to how good a HM they were fyi.

it does when a HM enters late........gets a free ride..............then

oik!...................straight out.......................

Mark L

[Withano]

Where somebody finishes has no relevance to how good a HM they were fyi.

He was a terrible housemate, like you'd expect the person who came 9th in the worst series ever to be. Epitome of irrelevance.

[BigBuk]

Nikki's vine page has got international acclaim

lmao talking about vine pages, if she walked past people on the street the majority wouldn't know who she was, she's not internationally known.

[BigBuk]

it does when a HM enters late........gets a free ride..............then

oik!...................straight out.......................

Mark L

Well no it doesn't.

[Beetlejuice]

.
What did Nikki do in her year? Fake rants and outbursts in the diary room that

Those clearly weren't fake. Any sane person would have known they'd be evicted early if they did that. The only reason Nikki made it to week 8 was because (1) she could actually be very funny and (2) who she was up against (Sam and Lisa)

As for Marc... An overbearing arsehole.

[Pete.]

lmao talking about vine pages, if she walked past people on the street the majority wouldn't know who she was, she's not internationally known.
Here in the UK loads of people would know Nikki because about 4 times more people watched BB7 than they do now

[Beetlejuice]

lmao talking about vine pages, if she walked past people on the street the majority wouldn't know who she was, she's not internationally known.

watch?v=Qlg29MhwYL8


:dance:

[Vicky.]

Without a doubt the best housemate of this series.

However this series has been piss poor really.

[BigBuk]

He was a terrible housemate, like you'd expect the person who came 9th in the worst series ever to be. Epitome of irrelevance.

Your opinion, many others would disagree, again no, what position someone finishes has no relevance to how good a HM they were, Sam Evans as an example. I'm assuming you're a Helen hater too, so in your books she came 1st must mean she was a great HM in your eyes? No, didn't think so. Your point makes no sense, it's irrelevant.

[ebandit]

Well no it doesn't.

........without BBs help he could have been out 1st week..........LOL

Mark L

[BigBuk]

watch?v=Qlg29MhwYL8


:dance:

It's got 5k views and I don't even know who the guy talking is, internationally known? Yeah okay.

[Pete.]

watch?v=Qlg29MhwYL8


:dance:
Receipts given

[BigBuk]

........without BBs help he could have been out 1st week..........LOL

Mark L

That's hypothetical so don't know what you're getting at...

[BigBuk]

Here in the UK loads of people would know Nikki because about 4 times more people watched BB7 than they do now

Yeah that's still not a lot tbh.

[Pete.]

Yeah that's still not a lot tbh.
https://vine.co/u/1131306981878018048

5,230,355 Loops

[reece(:]

Awful, overrated HM.

[ItWasJustBanter]

https://vine.co/u/1131306981878018048

What a vile, overgrown child.

[Withano]

Your opinion, many others would disagree, again no, what position someone finishes has no relevance to how good a HM they were, Sam Evans as an example. I'm assuming you're a Helen hater too, so in your books she came 1st must mean she was a great HM in your eyes? No, didn't think so. Your point makes no sense, it's irrelevant.

You do realise that you're the minority lol? See poll above.

[BigBuk]

You do realise that you're the minority lol? See poll above.

What by 3 people? Lmao, that's such a huge gap.

[Liam-]

Without a doubt one of the greatest of the C5 era, overall? maybe not so much, but he's still great.

[Pete.]

This thread is about Marc not queen Nikki

[Beetlejuice]

After Nikki got evicted on BB7 the show nearly lost as many viewers as this series has been getting

[BigBuk]

https://vine.co/u/1131306981878018048

5 million isn't even a lot considering it's a vine and every single person that's viewed it would contribute to more than one loop each and that's forgetting that people who would have it on replay, not a lot. She is nowhere near internationally well known or even nationally.

If you think she's a celeb I don't know what to say really.

[hijaxers]

Well sorry if if i'm on my own but i think Marc has been the best HM in any Ch 5 series - this yrs dead in the water now and not fussed if i see it or not sadly as i can't stand any of the tossers left in there

[Pete.]

5 million isn't even a lot considering it's a vine and every single person that's viewed it would contribute to more than one loop each and that's forgetting that people who would have it on replay, not a lot. She is nowhere near internationally well known or even nationally.

If you think she's a celeb I don't know what to say really.
5 million is loads hun

[BigBuk]

5 million is loads hun

Isn't to be considered internationally known in the grand scheme of things.

[BigBuk]

You do realise that you're the minority lol? See poll above.

Not minority now is it? See poll above.

[Withano]

Not minority now is it? See poll above.

What by 1 person? Lmao, that's such a huge gap.

[BigBuk]

What by 1 person? Lmao, that's such a huge gap.

The fact the question was even asked shows he is, never going to see this question asked about the rest of the HMs.

[Withano]

The fact the question was even asked shows he is, never going to see this question asked about the rest of the HMs.

He really isn't.. The only people who voted on this poll are those that are interested in BB16. If thats not a bias selection, I don't know what is.

Besides, great means in the top 10%? 20% at a push, the fact that ~half the people voting thinks he is not a great housemate proves he isn't, all the greats are pretty much unanimously recognised to be so.

[BigBuk]

He really isn't.. The only people who voted on this poll are those that are interested in BB16. If thats not a bias selection, I don't know what is.

Besides, great means in the top 10%? 20% at a push, the fact that ~half the people voting thinks he is not a great housemate proves he isn't, all the greats are pretty much unanimously recognised to be so.

Absolute BS. "all the greats are pretty much unanimously recognised to be so." Tell me one person you regard as a BB legend and they'll be people who won't regard them as that.

If the majority of people think he is then he is. Also I'm willing to bet that some of the people voting no are hipsters too along with people who just don't like him.

[Ross.]

erm no

[Withano]

Absolute BS. "all the greats are pretty much unanimously recognised to be so." Tell me one person you regard as a BB legend and they'll be people who won't regard them as that.

If the majority of people think he is then he is. Also I'm willing to bet that some of the people voting no are hipsters too along with people who just don't like him.

Pete Benett, Charley Uchea, Nasty Nick, Chantelle Houghton..

People who revolutionised the show.. Aaron and unfortunately, Helen, are the only people close to great status from C5 and if there was a poll in any of the names above, they'd probably all get over a 75/25 split.. Not 55/45.

Some passive aggressive bloke who was in the for 5 weeks, immune for four and left as soon as he was illegible to do so isn't a great housemate! That there, is the definition of one of the worst ever housemates, and not in a good way.

[BB4fan]

Yet 10 years later, they are known nationwide. Will Marc be remembered in 10 years time?

The question is will Marc keep living off the past like Nikki...???

[the truth]

in truth he faded quickly. sadly big brother isn't the slow burn as before, its all gimmicks and manipulation so no relationships or real banter and craic , camaraderie, love really forms anymore. he went in as a tacky aention seeker, throwing nasty cheap insults around all the time ....then denied doing it. so hes a liar and really he stands for nothing

[Pete.]

Pete Benett, Charley Uchea, Nasty Nick, Chantelle Houghton..

People who revolutionised the show.. Aaron and unfortunately, Helen, are the only people close to great status from C5 and if there was a poll in any of the names above, they'd probably all get over a 75/25 split.. Not 55/45.

Some passive aggressive bloke who was in the for 5 weeks, immune for four and left as soon as he was illegible to do so isn't a great housemate! That there, is the definition of one of the worst ever housemates, and not in a good way.
Toya is a Channel 5 legend too http://britneyuniverse.com/public/style_emoticons/default/pieceofwhat.jpg

[Withano]

Toya is a Channel 5 legend too http://britneyuniverse.com/public/style_emoticons/default/pieceofwhat.jpg

Didn't watch that series, I'll take your word for it.

[Pete.]

Didn't watch that series, I'll take your word for it.
Lmao slay a bit Toya :clap1:

[BigBuk]

Pete Benett, Charley Uchea, Nasty Nick, Chantelle Houghton..

People who revolutionised the show.. Aaron and unfortunately, Helen, are the only people close to great status from C5 and if there was a poll in any of the names above, they'd probably all get over a 75/25 split.. Not 55/45.

Some passive aggressive bloke who was in the for 5 weeks, immune for four and left as soon as he was illegible to do so isn't a great housemate! That there, is the definition of one of the worst ever housemates, and not in a good way.

I don't mind the other 3 but they'll be people out there who won't like them, especially Nick.

I liked Helen but Marc was a much better HM. Again him being evicted has no baring on him being a bad HM, you're just ignorant and as for one of the worst ever... Haha. I can see your hatred of him is so strong which leads you to say such stupid things, that's why Marc is loved, he gets under peoples skin like yourself and he makes them say stupid things, again like you've just done. He's the definition of one of the worst housemates ever? hahaha.

Sam Evans one of the best housemates ever because he won in your logic.

[BigBuk]

The question is will Marc keep living off the past like Nikki...???

This. He won't need too, he's got a proper job. Nikki is a washed up has been Z-Lister.

[Withano]

Hahaha. Chantelle? Who was mugged off by Ziggy a legend? Don't make me laugh. I don't mind the other 3 but they'll be people out there who won't like them, especially Nick.

I liked Helen but Marc was a much better HM. Again him being evicted has no baring on him being a bad HM, you're just ignorant and as for one of the worst ever... Haha. I can see your hatred of him is so strong which leads you to say such stupid things, that's why Marc is loved, he gets under peoples skin like yourself and he makes them say stupid things, again like you've just done. He's the definition of one of the worst housemates ever? hahaha.

Sam Evans one of the best housemates ever because he won in your logic.

No, thats not who Chantelle is and no, Sam is not a great housemate... Good luck trying to make more posts where you convince other people that they stupid things though (lol)

And no, Marc, although similar to Helen, is nowhere near a greater hm... More likable, maybe.

[jet]

9th place in the worst series ever

:joker: ...and he had immunity until he was shown the door too. I'll remember him - as that prick whats - his - name who couldn't afford trousers.

[BigBuk]

No, thats not who Chantelle is and no, Sam is not a great housemate... Good luck trying to make more posts where you convince other people that they stupid things though (lol)

And no, Marc, although similar to Helen, is nowhere near a greater hm.

Woops got her mixed up with Chanelle I think, anyway my point still stands. Everybody has different opinions, not every single person will consider those you listed as legends, that's a fact.

But Sam won... Surely he's a great HM if you go off were they finished?

Again as much as I liked Helen she wasn't as good as Marc, she wasn't as funny, as clever and she let her self get wound up when she had been in arguments, opposite of Marc.

Also Helen would have certainly have went if she didn't have a pass to the final but yet you're criticising Marc for escaping 1 week, makes no sense whatsoever.

[Pete.]

Messy Chanelle is no legend

[BigBuk]

Messy Chanelle is no legend

I know she's not, got her name mistaken.

[Pete.]

I know she's not, got her name mistaken.
Drag her :clap1:

[Withano]

Woops got her mixed up with Chanelle I think, anyway my point still stands. Everybody has different opinions, not every single person will consider those you listed as legends, that's a fact.

But Sam won... Surely he's a great HM if you go off were they finished?

Again as much as I liked Helen she wasn't as good as Marc, she wasn't as funny, as clever and she let her self get wound up when she had been in arguments, opposite of Marc.

Also Helen would have certainly have went if she didn't have a pass to the final but yet you're criticising Marc for escaping 1 week, makes no sense whatsoever.

I'm just saying the great housemates would be in the top 10/20%.. Thats how I define great.. Among the best.. By the looks of the poll, he probably just scrapes into the top half, definitely not the elite. Loads of C4 hms could get more than a 55/45% split if the same question was asked. Helen and Aaron from C5 would also manage. (Sam would not, God knows why you keep bringing him up)

[BigBuk]

I'm just saying the great housemates would be in the top 10/20%.. By the looks of the poll, he probably just scrapes into the top 50%. Loads of C4 hms could get more than a 55/45% split if the same question was asked. Helen and Aaron from C5 would also manage.

The reason why Marc is so close is because people don't like him, not because he isn't a legend. The fact so many like him and others don't shows to me is a legend.

Everybody has a strong opinion on him, the people who have never been thought of as legends everybody won't have a strong opinion on them because they're boring. Marc brought talking points throughout the whole series.

[Withano]

The reason why Marc is so close is because people don't like him, not because he isn't a legend. The fact so many like him and others don't shows to me is a legend.

Everybody has a strong opinion on him, the people who have never been thought of as legends everybody won't have a strong opinion on them because they're boring. Marc brought talking points throughout the whole series.

Liking somebody and being a 'BB great' are two different things, you assuming people aren't answering the question properly because you don't like the results is dumb.

I dislike Marc and he isn't a BB great
I dislike Helen but she is a BB great
I like Sam but he isn't a BB great
I like Chantelle and she is a BB great

[bots]

to be a great housemate, you have to appeal to a broad section of the voting public. Marc didn't do that, so he is no where near a great

[BigBuk]

Liking somebody and being a 'BB great' are two different things, you assuming people aren't answering the question properly because you don't like the results is dumb.

I don't assume, I know people cloud their judgements over HMs on this site due to their dislike towards a HM.

The "who will you remember from this series" thread proves my point when people are listing bores and not Marc, if I despised a HM and saw that thread I'd list them because I would remember them, simple as that. That's obvious proof that people let their agenda over a HM cloud their judgement.

There's no point arguing really, you and others obviously don't consider him a legend, myself and others do. He's a legend in some peoples eyes and not others, like all HMs.

[BigBuk]

to be a great housemate, you have to appeal to a broad section of the voting public. Marc didn't do that, so he is no where near a great

Your opinion, to me and others he was.

[Lostie!]

watch?v=Qlg29MhwYL8


:dance:

Most of the housemates are "known" to certain people from other countries who follow international BBs so if we're classing any housemates who are known to anybody overseas as "internationally known" ... that goes for a lot of them.

But does that make them internationally famous? No. They're "known" to a select few.

[bots]

Your opinion, to me and others he was.

and to others he wasn't, and the others I refer to were in the majority

[BigBuk]

and to others he wasn't, and the others I refer to were in the majority

No you aren't the majority.

[Withano]

There's no point arguing really, you and others obviously don't consider him a legend, myself and others do. He's a legend in some peoples eyes and not others, like all HMs.

...Still... A legend would be considered so by the vast majority of viewers and the numbers in the poll is conclusive, Marc is not one...

I suppose you'd be better off arguing for what the definition of a legend is

[Lostie!]

...Still... A legend would be considered so my the majority of viewers and the numbers in the poll is conclusive, Marc is not one...

I suppose you'd be better off arguing for what the definition of a legend is

What poll are you looking at? The "majority" of voters have currently voted yes. If you want to lecture people on definitions, I suggest you look up the meaning of "majority" first.

Of course, that could change as Marc is an extremely marmite housemate, but that's how it currently stands.

[Withano]

What poll are you looking at? The "majority" of voters have currently voted yes. If you want to lecture people on definitions, I suggest you look up the meaning of "majority" first.

Of course, that could change as Marc is an extremely marmite housemate, but that's how it currently stands.

True, I meant like 75/85%.. Edited my post. Just over half the people does not make him a great.

[BigBuk]

...Still... A legend would be considered so by the vast majority of viewers and the numbers in the poll is conclusive, Marc is not one...

I suppose you'd be better off arguing for what the definition of a legend is

If more people consider him a legend than not he's a legend to the majority, stop being ignorant, you're getting boring now.

[bots]

True, I meant like 70/80%.. Edited my post. Just over half the people does not make him a great.

not only that, enough people showed a dislike of him to boot him out on friday, clearly not a great.

I liked Jade, thought she was brilliant, but if you can't survive evictions you are a nobody

[Lostie!]

True, I meant like 75/85%.. Edited my post. Just over half the people does not make him a great.

Fair enough.

Still, I think what makes a classic housemate to the individual is subjective, there are housemates commonly branded as legends who I don't particularly care for and find overrated. I don't really see it as a matter of fact, but rather personal opinions.

[Lostie!]

not only that, enough people showed a dislike of him to boot him out on friday, clearly not a great.

I liked Jade, thought she was brilliant, but if you can't survive evictions you are a nobody

So Nikki, who everyone brands a BB legend, isn't one? I mean, she was evicted in her original stint, and by quite a hefty margin too.

[BigBuk]

Fair enough.

Still, I think what makes a classic housemate to the individual is subjective, there are housemates commonly branded as legends who I don't particularly care for and find overrated. I don't really see it as a matter of fact, but rather personal opinions.

Thank you, how people can't see it's a matter of opinion is beyond me, then make out their opinions are facts.

[Withano]

If more people consider him a legend than not he's a legend to the majority, stop being ignorant, you're getting boring now.

Nah, you're saying he's a legend because you like him and because slightly more than half agree that he should have the status, I'm saying a legend is almost always unanimously thought to be so, I can't think of a single example inside or outside of BB where this isn't the case. 55% is just good-ish, and I can agree with that.

[bots]

So Nikki, who everyone brands a BB legend, isn't one? I mean, she was evicted in her original stint, and by quite a hefty margin too.

I voted to get rid of her in her original BB, and it doesn't matter how many times she is wheeled out to our TV screens she will not be a legend to me.

Being a great requires the majority of viewing public to consider them as such. I may be in the minority with Nikki, I don't actually know, but the evidence was clear as day on Friday that Marc cannot be considered great.

[BigBuk]

Nah, you're saying he's a legend because you like him and because slightly more than half agree that he should have the status, I'm saying a legend is almost always unanimously thought to be so, I can't think of a single example inside or outside of BB where this isn't the case. 55% is just good-ish, and I can agree with that.

How can you not comprehend what I'm saying. Of course he's a legend to me because I like him. He's a legend to others as well, so the fact you keep going on about percentages blah blah blah is pointless.

He could be a legend to 1% and that 1% would still regard him as a legend, no matter how it compared with other so called legends.

[Withano]

How can you not comprehend what I'm saying. Of course he's a legend to me because I like him. He's a legend to others as well, so the fact you keep going on about percentages blah blah blah is pointless.

He could be a legend to 1% and that 1% would still regard him as a legend, no matter how it compared with other so called legends.

No I get what you're saying.. He's a legend to you.. Sure.. That doesn't make him a BB legend though.

[ebandit]

not only that, enough people showed a dislike of him to boot him out on friday, clearly not a great.




and given who was up against for eviction............producers had stacked

odds in his favour giving harry a terrible edit + attractive women always fair

worse in evictions and mark still lost....................

..........legendary!

Mark L

[Spoon]

A recent production fave does not a BB legend make.

[Beetlejuice]

So Nikki, who everyone brands a BB legend, isn't one? I mean, she was evicted in her original stint, and by quite a hefty margin too.

She survived 3 evictions before eventually going. Amazing for a person that over the top to achieve that. She should never have been up that week either. And had she been with Jayne, she'd have survived again.

[Xtopher]

Love the guy. He made this series watchable for me.

[Beetlejuice]

Love the guy. He made this series watchable for me.

At no point was this series watchable.

[Skobie1Kenobi]

One of the greats.

[ThriceShy]

Where somebody finishes has no relevance to how good a HM they were fyi.

One of my favourite housemates was Mario Marconi. Didn't he get evicted second?

[ThriceShy]

At no point was this series watchable.

Yet you watched it.:shrug:

I would certainly say it was before 4in4out.

[BENDERBOY]

Marc and Helen along with the production team ruined this years BB for me.

[the truth]

Marc and Helen along with the production team ruined this years BB for me.

I agree 100%

[Jimrod]

Marc was evicted because it was vote to evict and he generates enough opinion, one way or the other to get people voting. The others are all bland, beige characters that no-one cares about.

Long gone are the days when people would pick up the phone to vote against someone else to save their favourite - in-fact so few people vote regardless nowadays we always end up having the prize fund reduced because cash hasn't been generated by the phone lines in recent years.

Like him or not Marc is by far the most memorable character from this year, hating him doesn't change that despite all the petty comments here.

[ebandit]

One of the greats.

greatness in his own lunchtime..............as great as this fine kebab

lovely in the mouth.............quickly forgotten

Mark L

[johnx]

Get real-Marc did more in one day than most of these so called legends did in 3 months.He caused more drama in his first couple of hours on the show than most can muster in a series. Cant think of any real dramatic moments that Nikki,Ashlene or Below were responsible for at all. And back then people could watch them 24/7 on the red button in some series.

[Niamh.]

I liked and disliked him in equal measures, definitely a fantastic HM though

[ItWasJustBanter]

At no point was this series watchable.

Did you miss the "for me" part, mate?

[johnx]

Thought he was going to be one of those brainless buffons for bout first week-but it became clear there was lot more to the guy.Made for reality TV.