Danny and all the people he knew before entering the show

[Beetlejuice]

http://www.getdannyout.com/big-brother-connections.html

[zakman440]

...pretty sure Emma addressed this on BOTS the other night.

[ItWasJustBanter]

...pretty sure Emma addressed this on BOTS the other night.

Did you scroll down mate?

[Beetlejuice]

...pretty sure Emma addressed this on BOTS the other night.

She addressed him and her, which was fair enough. But this is about Danny and the rather bizarre little world all of these BB housemates seem to live in.

[Gusto Brunt]

He just seems to hang onto other people's fame. What a loser.

[waylander1973]

He should have not been allowed into the house.

[Beetlejuice]

There's something particularly irritating about James Jordan telling his mate what would help him and getting him away from Aisleyne.

[Gusto Brunt]

All Danny represents are boozy nights out, sh****** 'birds', selfies and gatecrashing other people's lives.

He's an utter waste of space.

[Marsh.]

Him at the CBB launch last year though. :unsure:

But who in the hell has created a domain name for this pointless sh*te? It's hardly as though BB has never attracted fame *****s or been fair for a long time.

[Will.]

lmao its ridiculous for god sake! I only know Matthew who wrote for the same website as me.


biggest fame seeker on BB?

[Morgan.]

And Cami Li wasn't evicted first. They need to get their facts right.

[Moosething]

That domain tho!

Lmao @ all them C5 hms

[billy123]

This show really attracts some right weirdos who are these nutters that care enough to register a domain and make a website. Thats a whole new level of butthurt moron.

[GiRTh]

Very strange that they let him on the show given how many ex contestants he knows.

[GiRTh]

And Cami Li wasn't evicted first. They need to get their facts right.Chloe was out first.

[Withano]

I'd like to agree just because he's a moron for so many other reasons. But I think he's just a bit of a bb fangirl

[Time]

Travesty if he won.

[Jason.]

I know Kenzie from CBB3. Why am I not in there?! :fist::fist:

[Marsh.]

Isn't Danny one of the people constantly saying "Who's that?" about ex housemates too? :joker:

[Jason.]

Isn't Danny one of the people constantly saying "Who's that?" about ex housemates too? :joker:

Wasn't that Cristian?

[fitz2k2]

DAMNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN THIS LIST LONG.biggest media ***** in bb history!!!!!!!!!!!!he def needs to get exposed.anybody live close to bb house?so that person can throw like a big tennis ball with a note n list all of danny friends?

[Jason.]

How come most of them are the cast of CBB14?

I doubt half of those people are really friends of his, just people he's taken pictures with due to being associated with Ricci, who happened to be in CBB14.

[ThriceShy]

...pretty sure Emma addressed this on BOTS the other night.

Emma lied. Danny went for a meal with Emma.

[MB.]

The fact that someone made a website :unsure:

[ThriceShy]

The fact that someone made a website :unsure:

Aren't you currently posting on a website that someone made about big brother?

[Beetlejuice]

How come most of them are the cast of CBB14?

I doubt half of those people are really friends of his, just people he's taken pictures with due to being associated with Ricci, who happened to be in CBB14.

That's probably true. He is mates with Ricci so he's bound to be in pictures with housemates from that series

[MB.]

Aren't you currently posting on a website that someone made about big brother?

Because that's completely comparable :unsure:

[ThriceShy]

Because that's completely comparable :unsure:

How is it not?

[Marsh.]

How is it not?

Did MB create a website dedicated to some daft conspiracy theory about one housemate?

No.

[ThriceShy]

Did MB create a website dedicated to some daft conspiracy theory about one housemate?

No.

How is it a daft conspiracy theory?

Emma lied and was contradicted by danny's tweet about going for a meal.

[MB.]

(yeah ok it's your site we got it)

[Macie Lightfoot]

How come most of them are the cast of CBB14?

I doubt half of those people are really friends of his, just people he's taken pictures with due to being associated with Ricci, who happened to be in CBB14.

Exactly. Like, this isn't shocking news at all.

This website loses all its credibility anyway when it backs a Joel Squarepants win.

[Jason.]

Exactly. Like, this isn't shocking news at all.

This website loses all its credibility anyway when it backs a Joel Squarepants win.

Joel Squarepants. :joker:

[Ashley.]

I can't get past the fact that someone paid for their own domain dedicated to how much they dislike Danny. Obsessed isn't even the word.

[Withano]

How is it a daft conspiracy theory?

Emma lied and was contradicted by danny's tweet about going for a meal.

Just because it's anti-Danny doesn't mean it bares any ounce of veracity..

[Ashley.]

Just because it's anti-Danny doesn't mean it bares any ounce of veracity..

:clap2:

Had to google veracity, mind you

[waterhog]

not looking good -

[Lostie!]

And this is the guy who hates people who just want to be famous. :joker:

[Patricia4]

Beetlejuice that was good reading thankyou.
He is vile and Emma went for a meal with Danny so she's a lair.

[fitz2k2]

Beetlejuice that was good reading thankyou.
He is vile and Emma went for a meal with Danny so she's a lair.

time to attack emma on twitter lol

[ThriceShy]

I can't get past the fact that someone paid for their own domain dedicated to how much they dislike Danny. Obsessed isn't even the word.

Do you know how much a domain costs? I own a domain that costs me 50p per month.

Danny fans who voted for marc 50 times spent £25.

[Withano]

Do you know how much a domain costs? I own a domain that costs me 50p per month.

Danny fans who voted for marc 50 times spent £25.

Making a domain, collecting photographs and writing paragraphs about one housemate in the worst series of Big Brother ever is unusual behaviour.. Obviously.. Just because you dislike Danny and so does the creator of that hilariously desperate website, doesn't make it credible. It's just weird. I kind of refuse to believe that you don't see that, I think you know.

[RodHull]

Anyone with a brain knows by now Danny in the house this white knight persona is a total fake. Hes a total fame w***e but the worst type who makes out he isnt. I mean marc was a fame w***e as well but at least he was kind of honest about it.

[Ashley.]

Making a domain, collecting photographs and writing paragraphs about one housemate in the worst series of Big Brother ever is unusual behaviour.. Obviously.. Just because you dislike Danny and so does the creator of that hilariously desperate website, doesn't make it credible. It's just weird. I kind of refuse to believe that you don't see that, I think you know.

This. It's quite ridiculous.

[Marsh.]

(yeah ok it's your site we got it)

:joker:

[ThriceShy]

Anyone with a brain knows by now Danny in the house this white knight persona is a total fake. Hes a total fame w***e but the worst type who makes out he isnt. I mean marc was a fame w***e as well but at least he was kind of honest about it.

Don't forget violent thug and fat-shamer.

[Marsh.]

How is it a daft conspiracy theory?

Emma lied and was contradicted by danny's tweet about going for a meal.

How was it contradictory?

You mean it's not likely Danny is a massive bulls*itter? :joker:

[ThriceShy]

How was it contradictory?

You mean it's not likely Danny is a massive bulls*itter? :joker:

You really think Danny would lie about a meal with Emma on a public twitter account?

If he has then why didn't Emma correct him during her speech on bots?

[FacelessME]

If BB was still on C4, he wouldn't be on the show. :bored: He can't be allowed to win the series, peeps.

LOL @ that domain name.

[Ross.]

The fact someone actually made a website about this though. :unsure:

[Withano]

You really think Danny would lie about a meal with Emma on a public twitter account?

If he has then why didn't Emma correct him during her speech on bots?

Probably a meal with the entire cast, production, friends, families and hosts of Big Brother after Riccis series.. Not the intimate one on one candlelit meal that the author of the desperate site imagined. Think about it rationally maybe.

[RodHull]

This site is a bit like those conspiracy sites you see were they take it a little bit to far in to the realms of the ridiculous.

I mean clearly Danny is not what he pretends to be (a normal bloke from the pub) but he is also not besties with emma either. I mean Matt willis might be a little annoyed for a start if they'd been on a date haha

[sungrass]

read it - much worse than what emma addressed on bbots, pretty shocked

[Marsh.]

You really think Danny would lie about a meal with Emma on a public twitter account?

If he has then why didn't Emma correct him during her speech on bots?

Because everyone is accusing her of being his friend.

She isn't. She met him via another reality TV show. End of story.

Do I think Danny would lie about his links with celebrities? YES I do. :joker:

[ThriceShy]

The links with celebrities aren't even the worst thing on the site. Look at the tweets section.

How can anyone look at those tweets and still want him to win?

[NotARylanFan]

For ****s sake...

So what if he knows various people who have been in the house at one point? It'd be completely different if he knew people involved with production that could actually ensure he makes it far in the game.

Doesn't really prove anything.

[Beetlejuice]

For ****s sake...

So what if he knows various people who have been in the house at one point? It'd be completely different if he knew people involved with production that could actually ensure he makes it far in the game.

Doesn't really prove anything.

Erm... James, his friend, came in and gave him guidance.

[Marsh.]

The links with celebrities aren't even the worst thing on the site. Look at the tweets section.

How can anyone look at those tweets and still want him to win?

So now we're onto an entirely different subject entirely.

I hope those domain fees were worth it. :joker:

[NotARylanFan]

Erm... James, his friend, came in and gave him guidance.

How is that any different to the Legends giving Marc feedback when they first met in the bunker? Or other former HM's passing information onto their favourites?

[erinp5]

Erm... James, his friend, came in and gave him guidance.

as did Mario and Victor and Brian fought his corner when it came to noms .

[ThriceShy]

So now we're onto an entirely different subject entirely.

I hope those domain fees were worth it. :joker:

How is it a different subject? I am talking about that site. is that off topic?

Why are you trying to personalise the issue? Can't we just discuss the website without you having to try and claim it is mine?:shrug:

[Marsh.]

How is it a different subject? I am talking about that site. is that off topic?

Why are you trying to personalise the issue? Can't we just discuss the website without you having to try and claim it is mine?:shrug:

It's a different subject because we were discussing the people he supposedly "knows", including Emma Willis. Then suddenly your reply was talking about random tweets made by him.

That's changing the subject.

[ThriceShy]

It's a different subject because we were discussing the people he supposedly "knows", including Emma Willis. Then suddenly your reply was talking about random tweets made by him.

That's changing the subject.

You were talking about the site and how you think I own it. So it seems it was you who changed the subject.

[RichardG]

I can't wait for this series to finish

[Raph]

best website ever!! I called this loser recruit out DAY 1!! So glad this site has been made.

[BB4fan]

He mainly only knows the crappy ex HM's (except Victor). He wouldn't get close to the early years.

[Marsh.]

You were talking about the site and how you think I own it. So it seems it was you who changed the subject.

I kept it about Emma and Danny love. :)

The fact you own the site is periphery.

[ThriceShy]

I kept it about Emma and Danny love. :)

The fact you own the site is periphery.

You never mentioned love?:shrug:

[Marsh.]

You never mentioned love?:shrug:

Did I not love? Oh, look at that, I have now love. :)

[ThriceShy]

Did I not love? Oh, look at that, I have now love. :)

Changing the subject again then? You do that a lot.:laugh:

[Marsh.]

Changing the subject again then? You do that a lot.:laugh:

It's not a subject change, it's a term of endearment my love. :)

[ThriceShy]

It's not a subject change, it's a term of endearment my love. :)

Yes, dear, whatever you say.:laugh:

But can't we stick to talking about my site?:shrug:

[Donovan.]

http://www.getdannyout.com/uploads/3/9/6/4/39640635/4626749.jpg
"I've got two"
Winner.

[jennyjuniper]

All Danny represents are boozy nights out, sh****** 'birds', selfies and gatecrashing other people's lives.

He's an utter waste of space.

And regular appointments at the STI clinic.:laugh:

[Gusto Brunt]

The fact that someone made a website :unsure:

A domain name only costs as low as £3, and free hosting is free.

The html on that website is basic.

All in all the owner has spent no more time than people who post on the forums.:smug:

[Josy]

Someone actually paid money to purchase a domain and website about getting Danny out? :umm2:

I really dislike Danny to though, will hate it if he wins this :fist:

[Gusto Brunt]

Someone actually paid money to purchase a domain and website about getting Danny out? :umm2:

I really dislike Danny to though, will hate it if he wins this :fist:

Domain names are cheap (see my previous post).

What about people who vote to evict each week. Some people dial the number ten times or more for one person.

No difference.

In fact a website is cheaper!

[Josy]

Domain names are cheap (see my previous post).

What about people who vote to evict each week. Some people dial the number ten times or more for one person.

No difference.

In fact a website is cheaper!

I know how much domain names and website cost. Someone still paid money and time for the sole purpose of creating a website about getting a BB housemate out.

It's a bit obsessive IMO

[Beetlejuice]

How is that any different to the Legends giving Marc feedback when they first met in the bunker? Or other former HM's passing information onto their favourites?

Because none of them knew Marc before. Whilst James is a friend of Danny's with his best interests at heart

[ThriceShy]

I know how much domain names and website cost. Someone still paid money and time for the sole purpose of creating a website about getting a BB housemate out.

It's a bit obsessive IMO

Is it any more obsessive that the people who paid £25 to vote mark out 50 times?

Domain names and webhost are dirt cheap. In fact you often get the hosting free if you already have a website.

Fact is, the obsessive danny fans will have paid far more in eviction votes for his rivals than this guy has paid for a domain.

I see nothing odd about it at all. We are all writing on websites about the housemates. He has just chosen that website as his platform rather than this forum or facebook.

[ThriceShy]

Because none of them knew Marc before. Whilst James is a friend of Danny's with his best interests at heart

To be fair though. Marc did know jade before and had already been on a reality show in ireland.

I don't think all of this is just limited to Danny.

Danny is probably the worst case of it I have seen though. And it must have been happening for a while. Marlon is in that list. No doubt he got in last year because of all these connections.

[billy123]

There are some creepy people out there thats for sure.

[sungrass]

Making a domain, collecting photographs and writing paragraphs about one housemate in the worst series of Big Brother ever is unusual behaviour.. Obviously.. Just because you dislike Danny and so does the creator of that hilariously desperate website, doesn't make it credible. It's just weird. I kind of refuse to believe that you don't see that, I think you know.

Just leave them alone. They might have reasons for being at home or extra time - anything from Insomnia to knowing Danny - just quit it and show some appreciation for the information.

[billy123]

Just leave them alone. They might have reasons for being at home or extra time - anything from Insomnia to knowing Danny - just quit it and show some appreciation for the information.:joker:

[ThriceShy]

There are some creepy people out there thats for sure.

That's why we need websites to expose them.

[bots]

I don't think whats shown about danny gives him any increased chance of winning. What it shows is that he mixes in the same fame hungry circles as many of the other equally detestable previous contestants. We know the majority are selected from the same wannabe pool, its obvious the moment they open their mouths

[Withano]

Just leave them alone. They might have reasons for being at home or extra time - anything from Insomnia to knowing Danny - just quit it and show some appreciation for the information.

Lord. The information is a pile of ****. I aint gonna appreciate a pile of **** in the off-chance that the pile of **** was created by a person with insomnia.

[ThriceShy]

I don't think whats shown about danny gives him any increased chance of winning. What it shows is that he mixes in the same fame hungry circles as many of the other equally detestable previous contestants. We know the majority are selected from the same wannabe pool, its obvious the moment they open their mouths

But the feeling is that he is being protected. And that is an understandable feeling, given that he has been involved in numerous violent incidents but not been ejected.

[Marsh.]

Just leave them alone. They might have reasons for being at home or extra time - anything from Insomnia to knowing Danny - just quit it and show some appreciation for the information.

Lord. The information is a pile of ****. I aint gonna appreciate a pile of **** in the off-chance that the pile of **** was created by a person with insomnia.

:joker: :joker: :joker: :joker:

[Marsh.]

But the feeling is that he is being protected.

And what possible reason would BB have to protect Danny out of everyone?

He's hardly been the main source of entertainment for the last 10 weeks has he?

[BigBuk]

That's why we need websites to expose them.

I lol'd:laugh:

[ThriceShy]

And what possible reason would BB have to protect Danny out of everyone?

He's hardly been the main source of entertainment for the last 10 weeks has he?

Do I need to draw you a diagram?

The whole point of that getdannyout site is to suggest that he is being protected because he is friends with production/hosts/legendary housemates.

[Robertocarlo]

To be fair the majority of HMs past and present have lots of z list connections. A friend of mine was in BB a few years ago and he got in via his agent and not auditions. It's all incestuous to be honest.

[RichardG]

I don't understand why production would protect him on the basis of him being friends with the likes of Frenchy and George Gilbey? Like literally no one on that site hold any relevance at all bar Emma Willis, and she's already told us that she only saw him once because of that reality show they were on. I think the guys an idiot and clearly desperate for the 'z list lifestyle' but I don't buy into these conspiracy theories.

[Marsh.]

Do I need to draw you a diagram?

The whole point of that getdannyout site is to suggest that he is being protected because he is friends with production/hosts/legendary housemates.

I hate to break it to you but the cast of Towie, Bianca from BB15, James Jordan, Marlon, Frenchy, George Gilbey, the rest of the no-hopers and Emma Willis are NOT production. They're not even "legendary housemates", they're crap housemates of the last 12 months. :laugh2:

:pat: Bless.

They put their 'friend' in there and are now "protecting" him? Ok. :joker:

[Ross.]

Do I need to draw you a diagram?

The whole point of that getdannyout site is to suggest that he is being protected because he is friends with production/hosts/legendary housemates.

So I suppose this concludes the mystery of who made this site then

[andybigbro]

Omg totes fix :rolleyes:

[Braden]

I find it so embarrassing how desperate he is to be associated with the show.

[ThriceShy]

I hate to break it to you but the cast of Towie, Bianca from BB15, James Jordan, Marlon, Frenchy, George Gilbey, the rest of the no-hopers and Emma Willis are NOT production. They're not even "legendary housemates", they're crap housemates of the last 12 months. :laugh2:

:pat: Bless.

They put their 'friend' in there and are now "protecting" him? Ok. :joker:

Are you suggesting Victor isn't a legendary housemate? He is probably the greatest housemate of all time. And Emma is the face of the show, don't tell me she can't influence casting decisions.

And there is the small problem of Emma lying.

But you won't address the real issue...why is Danny being protected? There must be a reason. if it isn't nepotism, then what is it?

[ThriceShy]

So I suppose this concludes the mystery of who made this site then

I am happy to take responsibility for the site.

[Marsh.]

Are you suggesting Victor isn't a legendary housemate? He is probably the greatest housemate of all time. And Emma is the face of the show, don't tell me she can't influence casting decisions.

And there is the small problem of Emma lying.

But you won't address the real issue...why is Danny being protected? There must be a reason. if it isn't nepotism, then what is it?

Marc was also being kept in with being made immune for no discernible reason. Has he shagged Emma too?

Also, Emma didn't lie about anything, you've yet to provide evidence that says she was lying about the fact that the only other time she'd met Danny outside of Big Brother was when he was on Girlfriends, a show she did for itv2.

And no, I highly doubt Emma has the time nor the desire to spend any time "influencing" casting decisions. Not that they'd let her anyway. Much less to cast someone she doesn't know. :crazy:

So Victor was a great housemate, what, 11 years ago? And he's got Danny on the show this year and influenced production? Ok then. :joker:

[ThriceShy]

Marc was also being kept in with being made immune for no discernible reason. Has he shagged Emma too?

Where has anyone suggested that Danny shagged Emma?:shrug:

Why would you be so disingenous?

Marc was a plant in my view. I am stunned they allowed a public vote on him at all.

[arista]

...pretty sure Emma addressed this on BOTS the other night.


Yes she Fecking got Angry
saying he demanded a photo with her.

[Marsh.]

Where has anyone suggested that Danny shagged Emma?:shrug:

Why would you be so disingenous?

Marc was a plant in my view. I am stunned they allowed a public vote on him at all.

Well I'm guessing Emma is pretty close to Danny considering all the effort supposedly being made to keep Danny in the house?

So, if not a sexual/romantic relationship, what?

[arista]

Marc was also being kept in with being made immune for no discernible reason. Has he shagged Emma too?

Also, Emma didn't lie about anything, you've yet to provide evidence that says she was lying about the fact that the only other time she'd met Danny outside of Big Brother was when he was on Girlfriends, a show she did for itv2.

And no, I highly doubt Emma has the time nor the desire to spend any time "influencing" casting decisions. Not that they'd let her anyway. Much less to cast someone she doesn't know. :crazy:

So Victor was a great housemate, what, 11 years ago? And he's got Danny on the show this year and influenced production? Ok then. :joker:


I will send this to Emma
if you carry on.

She is Married
How Dare you Marsh

[ThriceShy]

Marc was also being kept in with being made immune for no discernible reason. Has he shagged Emma too?

Also, Emma didn't lie about anything, you've yet to provide evidence that says she was lying about the fact that the only other time she'd met Danny outside of Big Brother was when he was on Girlfriends, a show she did for itv2.

And no, I highly doubt Emma has the time nor the desire to spend any time "influencing" casting decisions. Not that they'd let her anyway. Much less to cast someone she doesn't know. :crazy:

So Victor was a great housemate, what, 11 years ago? And he's got Danny on the show this year and influenced production? Ok then. :joker:

Emma claimed she met Danny on the show and then he asked for a picture at the end of production and that was the last she saw of him. But his twitter says they were going for a meal. Either he is lying or she is. But if he were lying then she would be very quick to say so on her BOTS rant.

I believe he went for a meal with her.

[Marsh.]

Emma claimed she met Danny on the show and then he asked for a picture at the end of production and that was the last she saw of him. But his twitter says they were going for a meal. Either he is lying or she is. But if he were lying then she would be very quick to say so on her BOTS rant.

I believe he went for a meal with her.

I don't believe she's had this tweet (which is how many years old?) thrown at her to be questioned.

She focussed on the "accusation" that she was friends with him.

So either Emma Willis has got one of her friends on the show, protecting him, manipulating the game for him to win, who she's now denying to know. Or a BB housemate is so fame hungry that he hangs about in Z list celeb circles, always hanging about with ex BB contestants (the show is now 15 years old there's going to be loads of them) and the cast of Towie and god knows who else and over exaggerates on his twitter about who he knows and who he's going out with?

Hmmm, a very tough dilemma this one.

[ThriceShy]

Well I'm guessing Emma is pretty close to Danny considering all the effort supposedly being made to keep Danny in the house?

So, if not a sexual/romantic relationship, what?

I would say it is pretty obvious what. It's called networking. And it pays to take the host of BB out to dinner if you are desperate to be on that show.

Surely you have abandoned all pretence that this is a show where members of the public are picked at auditions.

[RichardG]

I would say it is pretty obvious what. It's called networking. And it pays to take the host of BB out to dinner if you are desperate to be on that show.

Surely you have abandoned all pretence that this is a show where members of the public are picked at auditions.

I'd be asking for my money back if I had to wait three years post meal before she managed to get me into the show :laugh:

[Marsh.]

I would say it is pretty obvious what. It's called networking. And it pays to take the host of BB out to dinner if you are desperate to be on that show.

Surely you have abandoned all pretence that this is a show where members of the public are picked at auditions.

:joker:

Danny has taken a married mother of two out for dinner years ago to court a place on BB and have it manipulated in his favour?

Ok then.

I'm sure the only "networking" Emma does is with people she actually works with.

[ThriceShy]

I don't believe she's had this tweet (which is how many years old?) thrown at her to be questioned.

She focussed on the "accusation" that she was friends with him.

Do you go to dinner with your enemies?

Her response on BOTS shows that she is lying. She went out for dinner with him and the way the tweet was worded suggests it was not a group outing for the cast of this girlfriends show.

I am stunned you actually trust these people.

Do you remember the scandal where rylan was being allowed out for x-factor rehearsals and Emma promised us on screen that he was only going to a sound stage a few hundred yards from the house?

It turns out she was lying there. Someone uncovered tweets from another x-factor tour performer saying that it had been nice to see rylan, but he was at the other end of the country. So Rylan wasn't within the studios near the house.

I think it's cute that you still believe what they tell you like a child believes in santa.

There, there.

[bots]

i think the most influential ex housemate mentioned was frenchy .... her influence knows no bounds :joker:

[Marsh.]

Do you go to dinner with your enemies?

Her response on BOTS shows that she is lying. She went out for dinner with him and the way the tweet was worded suggests it was not a group outing for the cast of this girlfriends show.

I am stunned you actually trust these people. D

Do you remember the scandal where rylan was being allowed out for x-factor rehearsals and Emma promised us on screen that he was only going to a sound stage a few hundred yards from the house?

It turns out she was lying there. Someone uncovered tweets from another x-factor tour performer saying that it had been nice to see rylan, but he was at the other end of the country. So Rylan wasn't withing the studios near the house.

I think it's cute that you still believe what they tell you like a child believes in santa.

There, there.

I don't believe anything because I don't seem to care about people I don't know quite as much as you do. :joker:

But it's cute that you put so much stock in tweets made by a fame hungry twat years ago. Because people like Danny are anything but truthful.

If he put it on twitter that he'd shagged Kate Middleton, well, it MUST be true.

:pat:

[RichardG]

i think the most influential ex housemate mentioned was frenchy .... her influence knows no bounds :joker:

Of course, if you want to get on the show and have the producers protect and manipulate a win for you, Frenchy's the girl to go to. :thumbs: And don't forget Gogglebox's very own, George Gilbey, either!!

[Marsh.]

All this effort Emma has gone to because of a meal three years ago. I hope he bought champagne too.

[ThriceShy]

I don't believe anything because I don't seem to care about people I don't know quite as much as you do. :joker:

But it's cute that you put so much stock in tweets made by a fame hungry twat years ago. Because people like Danny are anything but truthful.

If he put it on twitter that he'd shagged Kate Middleton, well, it MUST be true.

:pat:

But the problem is that Danny's twitter account is open. Even he isn't stupid enough to lie about a dinner date with Emma when he knows that she can see it. How would he explain himself if she saw it and asked about it. It seems pretty clear to me that it happened.

I notice you airbrushed the inconvenient truth about Rylan's x-factor jaunts from your response.

Fact is, Emma was caught out bang to rights lying about that. As such, I don't believe a word she says.

[ThriceShy]

i think the most influential ex housemate mentioned was frenchy .... her influence knows no bounds :joker:

Victor is pretty influential though isn't he.

Plays football with violent thug danny, and then is allowed to waltz into the house and give danny advice.

[ThriceShy]

Let's assume for a second that you guys are right and that Danny knowing these people isn't unusual and hasn't influenced anything.

Why is he being protected then? Why is he still in the house after several violent outbursts, while aaron was booted out for a bit of a drunken mess about?

[Marsh.]

But the problem is that Danny's twitter account is open. Even he isn't stupid enough to lie about a dinner date with Emma when he knows that she can see it. How would he explain himself if she saw it and asked about it. It seems pretty clear to me that it happened.

I notice you airbrushed the inconvenient truth about Rylan's x-factor jaunts from your response.

Fact is, Emma was caught out bang to rights lying about that. As such, I don't believe a word she says.

No, because Rylan leaving the house is an entirely separate subject. One that I discussed on this forum at the time but is old news and not even comparable to who Emma does and doesn't know outside of the show. :conf:

Not as old as these tweets of Danny's however. :idc:

[Marsh.]

Let's assume for a second that you guys are right and that Danny knowing these people isn't unusual and hasn't influenced anything.

Why is he being protected then? Why is he still in the house after several violent outbursts, while aaron was booted out for a bit of a drunken mess about?

Aaron put his cock on another housemate. Not the same thing.

[ThriceShy]

No, because Rylan leaving the house is an entirely separate subject. One that I discussed on this forum at the time but is old news. :conf:

Not as old as these tweets of Danny's however. :idc:

It isn't a separate subject. It was an incident where Emma earnestly lied to the camera on BOTS, just like she lied here.

Why should I believe her Danny denials if I already saw her lying about Rylan leaving the house?

[Marsh.]

Fact is, Emma was caught out bang to rights lying about that. As such, I don't believe a word she says.

Where is the evidence that has caught her in a lie?

A tweet from 2012 doesn't cut it I'm afraid.

Is Emma often found being wined and dined by men 10 years younger than her whilst offering them places on BB?
All whilst her husband and kids are waiting at home?

[ThriceShy]

Aaron put his cock on another housemate. Not the same thing.

Yes, Aaron's was much more minor. Threatening to slap someone, throwing sandwiches at them etc is far worse than messing about naked like aaron was.

Nobody else in the history of the show has been protected after such violent incidents as danny has.

They are protecting him for some reason. What is it?

[Marsh.]

I'd much rather have a soggy ham sandwich hit my arm than have some drunken lunatic rub their naked body against me.

But whatever floats your boat.

[Marsh.]

They are protecting him for some reason. What is it?

You are the one claiming he is being protected therefore it is up to you to answer that question.

[ThriceShy]

Where is the evidence that has caught her in a lie?

A tweet from 2012 doesn't cut it I'm afraid.

Is Emma often found being wined and dined by men 10 years younger than her whilst offering them places on BB?
All whilst her husband and kids are waiting at home?

She has past form for lying. That, combined with Danny openly admitting on his public twitter that he went to dinner with her, proves that she is lying this time.

Are you suggesting Emma doesn't ever lie to the viewers?

[ThriceShy]

You are the one claiming he is being protected therefore it is up to you to answer that question.

I have already answered it. It is in the website in my sig,

[Withano]

I don't know what the argument is about. Danny is friends with ricci and met most of those people through him or because of him, including the "meal" that he had with Emma. (The meal being a wrap up party with 100+ people from riccis series, previous series', production team, hosts and probably some viewers.. It lead Danny to managing to get a quick selfie in). It's a lot of nothing. Danny is just a bit of a fan girl who has one celebrity friend and an active Twitter account. The website is complete rubbish. There are very valid reasons to dislike Danny, this is not one of them.

[Marsh.]

She has past form for lying. That, combined with Danny openly admitting on his public twitter that he went to dinner with her, proves that she is lying this time.

Are you suggesting Emma doesn't ever lie to the viewers?

I have lied previously in my life, does that mean everything I say in future is also a lie? No. :smug:

But you clearly put a lot of stock in Danny's twitter feed so I shall just leave you to it.

[Marsh.]

I have already answered it. It is in the website in my sig,

Yes, and I've already told you what I think about that. :hee:

[ThriceShy]

I have lied previously in my life, does that mean everything I say in future is also a lie? No. :smug:

But you clearly put a lot of stock in Danny's twitter feed so I shall just leave you to it.

Have I any reason to disbelieve Danny's twitter feed? Danny is a bellend but he has never shown form for lying.

Emma has. Emma looked directly on the camera on BOTS and told us that rylan only went to a soundstage next door to the house. She made out that the dissenters were all conspiracy theorists. Yet a tweet proved her a liar.

So in this instance, I believe Danny.

But good decision on quitting while behind. It is always best.:pat:

[Marsh.]

Danny is a bellend but he has never shown form for lying.

He denied calling Aisleyne ugly.

He denied shagging Bianca Lake.

He denied being fame hungry.

Just three that spring to mind.

[ThriceShy]

Yes, and I've already told you what I think about that. :hee:

Well at least I am offering something. You point blank refuse to even speculate on why he is being protected.

[Marsh.]

Well at least I am offering something. You point blank refuse to even speculate on why he is being protected.

....because I don't believe he is.

Well done, you're almost computing what is actually being posted. :clap1:

[ThriceShy]

He denied calling Aisleyne ugly.

He denied shagging Bianca Lake.

He denied being fame hungry.

Just three that spring to mind.

But you said that lying previously in your life doesn't mean you have done it this time.:laugh:

I thought you were leaving me to it anyway?:shrug:

[ThriceShy]

....because I don't believe he is.

Well done, you're almost computing what is actually being posted. :clap1:

I can only conclude from that, that you are a danny fan.

[Marsh.]

I can only conclude from that, that you are a danny fan.

Yes, clearly I'm a Danny fan.


:joker:

[Marsh.]

But you said that lying previously in your life doesn't mean you have done it this time.:laugh:

I was responding to you saying he hasn't lied with evidence that he has?

So why does that not put doubt over his claims for you like it does with Emma? :think:
Because it doesn't fit your agenda?

[RichardG]

I don't think Emma going to dinner with him three years ago is the only feasible explanation as to why they haven't kicked Danny out of the house. Channel 5 love nastiness, just look at them keeping the likes of Conor and Helen in the house. Look at how they didn't break up the Daley and Hazel incident even though it was blatantly obvious it wasn't going to end well. Look at how practically every single task is designed with causing conflict in mind. The ratings suck, they love controversy, so why not keep him in? They were probably sat backstage praying he WOULD punch Marc in the face so they could make a super dramatic montage of it with Marcus screaming in background in the next highlights episode!!

[andybigbro]

I don't know what the argument is about. Danny is friends with ricci and met most of those people through him or because of him, including the "meal" that he had with Emma. (The meal being a wrap up party with 100+ people from riccis series, previous series', production team, hosts and probably some viewers.. It lead Danny to managing to get a quick selfie in). It's a lot of nothing. Danny is just a bit of a fan girl who has one celebrity friend and an active Twitter account. The website is complete rubbish. There are very valid reasons to dislike Danny, this is not one of them.

This is spot on.

The website is just a lame excuse for hatred towards Danny and is looking far too much into things. :joker:

[Marsh.]

I hope Matt Willis leaves the wench for cavorting with Danny.

[y.winter]

Seems like operation yewtree is doing a comeback.
Call the detectives!
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http://i1.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article3801295.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/Big-Brother.jpg

[ThriceShy]

This is spot on.

The website is just a lame excuse for hatred towards Danny and is looking far too much into things. :joker:

How is the website any different to the big "get Marc out campaign" thread on this forum?

[rocket]

This is spot on.

The website is just a lame excuse for hatred towards Danny and is looking far too much into things. :joker:

Exactly...!!
:clap1:

[ThriceShy]

Seems like operation yewtree is doing a comeback.
Call the detectives!
https://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/dan-neal-aka-detective-dan-picture-channel-5.png
http://i1.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article3801295.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/Big-Brother.jpg

Oh God, don't remind me of him. ( the top one)

[billy123]

Stop giving it the attention it desires the whole thing is just a windup to get a bite.

[ThriceShy]

I think this website could actually have an effect on thug Danny's chances to win.

Not so much the connections to Emma etc but the tweets section will open a lot of eyes. This site has been posted on DS and will be doing the rounds on Twitter and moronbook.

[ThriceShy]

I don't think Emma going to dinner with him three years ago is the only feasible explanation as to why they haven't kicked Danny out of the house. Channel 5 love nastiness, just look at them keeping the likes of Conor and Helen in the house. Look at how they didn't break up the Daley and Hazel incident even though it was blatantly obvious it wasn't going to end well. Look at how practically every single task is designed with causing conflict in mind. The ratings suck, they love controversy, so why not keep him in? They were probably sat backstage praying he WOULD punch Marc in the face so they could make a super dramatic montage of it with Marcus screaming in background in the next highlights episode!!

You might have a point here.

I have said that the connections aren't the most convincing thing on the site. The tweets are.

[Denver]

Danny is a fame ***** and would sell his dying granny to get 5 seconds on TV

[zakman440]

How is the website any different to the big "get Marc out campaign" thread on this forum?

Because it's free and takes a lot less effort to post a thread on a forum, whereas it costs money to buy a domain and a lot more effort to construct a website/'gather evidence' to put on said site?

[Amy Jade]

Am I meant to care he's got a few Z List mates?

[ThriceShy]

Because it's free and takes a lot less effort to post a thread on a forum, whereas it costs money to buy a domain and a lot more effort to construct a website/'gather evidence' to put on said site?

It wasn't free at all. People boasted about voting multiple times at 50p a go.
They spent far more than the domain for this site cost.

[Marsh.]

The spent far more than the domain for this site cost.

Why? How much was the domain?

[ThriceShy]

Why? How much was the domain?

Domains are dirt cheap. Mine costs 50p per month.

[andybigbro]

How is the website any different to the big "get Marc out campaign" thread on this forum?

I didn't say it was different. If this is your campaign to get Danny out then fair play to you. I just think it's a tad weak, based on premise of this thread title anyway. Danny clearly doesn't know these people that well, maybe meeting them once or twice or tweeting them but never actually meeting. Celebrities do that all the time. I think to say he it's fixed for him based on all the brief "connections" is a bit absurd though.

Last year, Zoe used to date Anthony Hutton. Does that mean she was fixed to win because she had a connection? Oh wait. Many housemates have had previous connections before, meting each other at previous auditions and such.

However, I do find his tweets he has made in the past to be vile and horrible. But that has nothing to do with meeting Emma before, or being friends with Victor, or the fact that Emma wants him to win because they are secretly best buds.

Also, Emma was more likely told by her bosses to say that Rylan was near the studios when he left to rehearse to stop conspiracies. I doubt she would have lied on her own accord.

But good luck in your campaign. :)

[Jords]

what a joke lmfao fame wannabe

[ThriceShy]

I didn't say it was different. If this is your campaign to get Danny out then fair play to you. I just think it's a tad weak, based on premise of this thread title anyway. Danny clearly doesn't know these people that well, maybe meeting them once or twice or tweeting them but never actually meeting. Celebrities do that all the time. I think to say he it's fixed for him based on all the brief "connections" is a bit absurd though.

Last year, Zoe used to date Anthony Hutton. Does that mean she was fixed to win because she had a connection? Oh wait. Many housemates have had previous connections before, meting each other at previous auditions and such.

However, I do find his tweets he has made in the past to be vile and horrible. But that has nothing to do with meeting Emma before, or being friends with Victor, or the fact that Emma wants him to win because they are secretly best buds.

Also, Emma was more likely told by her bosses to say that Rylan was near the studios when he left to rehearse to stop conspiracies. I doubt she would have lied on her own accord.

But good luck in your campaign. :)

I have said numerous times that the connections part of the site is the weakest. The tweets are the killer. They make the site worthwhile.

The reason people think there is a fix is because Danny is still there after numerous violent outbursts.

[andybigbro]

I have said numerous times that the connections part of the site is the weakest. The tweets are the killer. They make the site worthwhile.

The reason people think there is a fix is because Danny is still there after numerous violent outbursts.

Ok but the premise of this thread is about his connections.

People have had violent outbursts many times in BB. Like Charley throwing water over numerous people in BB8.

The reason Danny hasn't been removed is because he hasn't done anything to warrant removal. Yes, he has got angry and in someone's personal space, but that happens a lot in BB. Nadia/Jason rings a bell.

I would definitely stick to the tweets if you want to get him out. Because the "connections" and the "fix" aren't very strong.

Although, people may rebut that by only judging with what they have seen in the house :shrug:

[ThriceShy]

Ok but the premise of this thread is about his connections.

People have had violent outbursts many times in BB. Like Charley throwing water over numerous people in BB8.

The reason Danny hasn't been removed is because he hasn't done anything to warrant removal. Yes, he has got angry and in someone's personal space, but that happens a lot in BB. Nadia/Jason rings a bell.

I would definitely stick to the tweets if you want to get him out. Because the "connections" and the "fix" aren't very strong.

Although, people may rebut that by only judging with what they have seen in the house :shrug:

Can you think of a time that someone has threatened to hit someone and been allowed to stay in?

[Jack_]

This whole thread is an embarrassment and quite frankly I'm perplexed by this witch-hunt of Danny of all people. Like, he's one of the most vanilla and bland housemates to ever enter the house...how can he stir up this much hatred in people?

I get the points people are making but still...it's Danny. He's just...there. Even though I've grown to like him now he still just...exists :shrug: there's not really much to him. Of all the housemates that could provoke someone to create a website dedicated to tearing them apart it's one of the most middle of the road characters on a series that barely anyone is watching. I don't know whether it's more hilarious, disturbing or embarrassing. Or all three.

[vafunghoul]

This whole thread is an embarrassment and quite frankly I'm perplexed by this witch-hunt of Danny of all people. Like, he's one of the most vanilla and bland housemates to ever enter the house...how can he stir up this much hatred in people?

I get the points people are making but still...it's Danny. He's just...there. Even though I've grown to like him now he still just...exists :shrug: there's not really much to him. Of all the housemates that could provoke someone to create a website dedicated to tearing them apart it's one of the most middle of the road characters on a series that barely anyone is watching. I don't know whether it's more hilarious, disturbing or embarrassing. Or all three.

I disagree with you.
I find it insulting to one's intelligence to actually BUY into the BS that Danny is trying to sell by the character he's trying to portray until his real self surfaces when he's put in his place in an argument. That clown is a fraud in my opinion.

[ThriceShy]

This whole thread is an embarrassment and quite frankly I'm perplexed by this witch-hunt of Danny of all people. Like, he's one of the most vanilla and bland housemates to ever enter the house...how can he stir up this much hatred in people?

I get the points people are making but still...it's Danny. He's just...there. Even though I've grown to like him now he still just...exists :shrug: there's not really much to him. Of all the housemates that could provoke someone to create a website dedicated to tearing them apart it's one of the most middle of the road characters on a series that barely anyone is watching. I don't know whether it's more hilarious, disturbing or embarrassing. Or all three.

Have you read the tweets he wrote?

[Withano]

I have said numerous times that the connections part of the site is the weakest. The tweets are the killer. They make the site worthwhile.

The reason people think there is a fix is because Danny is still there after numerous violent outbursts.

lol if you say so

[Jack_]

I disagree with you.
I find it insulting to one's intelligence to actually BUY into the BS that Danny is trying to sell by the character he's trying to portray until his real self surfaces when he's put in his place in an argument. That clown is a fraud in my opinion.

I don't think anyone's buying into it per se, especially not over the last few days, but what is actually the problem with people being fake and putting on a persona on a game show? Like, what's the issue? The main issue is whether or not that person is interesting, entertaining and provides us with stuff to talk about as viewers. Whether or not it's genuine is pretty irrelevant to be honest.

Have you read the tweets he wrote?

Yes, but what housemates tweet, say and do either in their private life or professional life is of no relevance as to what they do inside the Big Brother house, which is the platform on which we as viewers are supposed to judge them on. What Danny or Marc or Nick has tweeted before the show, outside of the show, is completely irrelevant. Just as whether Harry or Helen was or is a prostitute is irrelevant, just as whether or not Chloe shat in someone's shoe is irrelevant, the list goes on. We're supposed to judge them on their time in the house on a blank slate, digging up dirt on housemates personal lives outside of the television show that they're appearing on is obsessive, unnecessary, irrelevant and really quite petty.

[ThriceShy]

I don't think anyone's buying into it per se, especially not over the last few days, but what is actually the problem with people being fake and putting on a persona on a game show? Like, what's the issue? The main issue is whether or not that person is interesting, entertaining and provides us with stuff to talk about as viewers. Whether or not it's genuine is pretty irrelevant to be honest.



Yes, but what housemates tweet, say and do either in their private life or professional life is of no relevance as to what they do inside the Big Brother house, which is the platform on which we as viewers are supposed to judge them on. What Danny or Marc or Nick has tweeted before the show, outside of the show, is completely irrelevant. Just as whether Harry or Helen was or is a prostitute is irrelevant, just as whether or not Chloe shat in someone's shoe is irrelevant, the list goes on. We're supposed to judge them on their time in the house on a blank slate, digging up dirt on housemates personal lives outside of the television show that they're appearing on is obsessive, unnecessary, irrelevant and really quite petty.

What if their tweets totally contradict the persona they take on in the big brother house?

What if danny acts like a white knight in the house, protecting the women and saying he won't allow bullying, but tweets that he hopes chloe goodman is bullied in the street and fat women in clubs should stick to their own kind and not try it on with him?

[Jack_]

What if their tweets totally contradict the persona they take on in the big brother house?

What if danny acts like a white knight in the house, protecting the women and saying he won't allow bullying, but tweets that he hopes chloe goodman is bullied in the street and fat women in clubs should stick to their own kind and not try it on with him?

I answered that in the other quoted post I replied to. It's a gameshow, housemates are perfectly entitled to fake a persona if they so wish and I don't see what the problem is with it. The real issue of debate here is whether the personas housemates create are interesting, entertaining and/or contribute anything to the show. If they don't, then they're pointless, but if they do...then there's nothing wrong with it.

[Amy Jade]

I can tell you the connection, Danny wants to be famous and he happens to be friends with Ricci and thus gets invited to events or BB meet ups. If he's friends with an ex hm there is a good chance he could have been a guest at a wrap party even so why is it unfathomable he's had a chat with people?

If it was this massive conspiracy as you imply they'd have hidden it better and given him a shining edit which they haven't.

I think you're grasping at straws

[ThriceShy]

I answered that in the other quoted post I replied to. It's a gameshow, housemates are perfectly entitled to fake a persona if they so wish and I don't see what the problem is with it. The real issue of debate here is whether the personas housemates create are interesting, entertaining and/or contribute anything to the show. If they don't, then they're pointless, but if they do...then there's nothing wrong with it.

Where are these rules stated that we must only judge them on what we see in the house?

Does it apply to the celebrity series, where we may have known the contestant for 30 years before they went in? Are we meant to disregard that 30 years?

Why shouldn't we consider all information before voting to give someone £100,000?

If twitter had existed during BB4, and we found tweets where cameron said he loved satan and visited prossies, would that have been irrelevant?

[Macie Lightfoot]

housemates are perfectly entitled to fake a persona if they so wish and I don't see what the problem is with it.

Personallyme, it's like, if I'm going to spend 60 hours (at least!) watching you and it turns out that everything I thought was true about you isn't, thanks for wasting my time?

[Marsh.]

Personallyme, it's like, if I'm going to spend 60 hours (at least!) watching you and it turns out that everything I thought was true about you isn't, thanks for wasting my time?

But it's not wasted time, if they've entertained you then you've spent that time watching BB regardless.

If they faded into the background then the edits didn't focus on them and didn't waste your time anyway.

When you put BB into the number of viewing hours it's ALL a waste of time. :joker:

[Jack_]

Where are these rules stated that we must only judge them on what we see in the house?

Does it apply to the celebrity series, where we may have known the contestant for 30 years before they went in? Are we meant to disregard that 30 years?

Why shouldn't we consider all information before voting to give someone £100,000?

If twitter had existed during BB4, and we found tweets where cameron said he loved satan and visited prossies, would that have been irrelevant?

It's the unwritten rule of the show, I mean it's pretty much common sense. What's the point in watching the highlights or even in the show existing if we're going to decide who our favourites are and who should win based on the housemates personal lives? We don't have cameras following them for years before they enter the house, it's completely irrelevant. The premise of the show is to watch a bunch of strangers inside a glorified television studio for a couple of months and to see how they interact and judge each of them based upon that. Their jobs, friends, families, private lives are all totally separate from their actions on the show itself and none of it is relevant when it comes to judging who is or who isn't a good housemate (note, the clue is in the name, housemate inside the house, not person outside the show).

Celebrity Big Brother is an entirely different ballgame, but even then I would hope that most people judge each of the housemates on a blank slate based upon what they do inside the house, I certainly do. That is, again, the entire point of the show and putting them in there. The civilian run is different, we don't know them and there's no reason to not judge them all on an equal pedestal. Fishing for outside information on contestants on a reality show is quite frankly just obsessive and pathetic and proves that some people take television way too seriously.

The £100,000 should go to the housemate who has contributed the most to each individual series. It's not (or at least it shouldn't be) a Mr Nice Person contest.

As for the Cameron question, yes, yes it would have been irrelevant. I haven't seen BB4 but heard he was boring, so that's more grounds on which to not deserve to win than anything he believes in or did/does outside of the show.

On one final separate note, what on earth is the problem with visiting prostitutes? :umm2:

[Marsh.]

On one final separate note, what on earth is the problem with visiting prostitutes? :umm2:

I believe he used that example as IIRC Cameron was some sort of bible preaching priest. :hee:

[Jack_]

But it's not wasted time, if they've entertained you then you've spent that time watching BB regardless.

If they faded into the background then the edits didn't focus on them and didn't waste your time anyway.

When you put BB into the number of viewing hours it's ALL a waste of time. :joker:

Indeed. Who cares whether it's fake or not? If you enjoy watching them in the minuscule bubble that is a Big Brother series compared to your/their entire life, then so be it. Whether they faked it all on a gameshow or not is pretty irrelevant. Either they brought a lot to the show or they didn't, that's more important than whether it was genuine or not. I couldn't care less how they act outside of the show, the cameras aren't there before or after so it isn't relevant in the slightest.

[ThriceShy]

Indeed. Who cares whether it's fake or not? If you enjoy watching them in the minuscule bubble that is a Big Brother series compared to your/their entire life, then so be it. Whether they faked it all on a gameshow or not is pretty irrelevant. Either they brought a lot to the show or they didn't, that's more important than whether it was genuine or not. I couldn't care less how they act outside of the show, the cameras aren't there before or after so it isn't relevant in the slightest.

That is up to you.

But why can't I, and others, choose to include other information when we decide who to vote for.

Who made you the boss?

[Marsh.]

That is up to you.

But why can't I, and others, choose to include other information when we decide who to vote for.

Who made you the boss?

No one. :umm2: He's giving his opinion on a public forum.

[Macie Lightfoot]

The £100,000 should go to the housemate who has contributed the most to each individual series. It's not (or at least it shouldn't be) a Mr Nice Person contest.

eh I don't think it's this clear cut and the circumstances for deciding who wins are dependent on what happens throughout each series. Like, say what you want about Sam Evans (I know I have) but I was thrilled when he beat Dexter, who served the same function as series-ruiners Ziggy, Darnell, Siavash, John James, and Aaron. Rachel Rice is my favorite winner ever because it's the most satisfying narrative: a bunch of freaks treated her like a monster because she was normal and kinda and likable and didn't have a raging personality disorder, she could not possibly give a ****, and then she overcomes all her haters and wins. On a season like BB12, where I ****ing hate the narrative of the series and almost everyone involved, I was rooting hardcore for Alex and Tom because they were the ones least connected to it. Some years I simply root for my favorite like Deana and Gina. This year has been a complete trainwreck so I think Sam would be a very fitting winner. The circumstances of each series change my thought process for it all.

[Jack_]

That is up to you.

But why can't I, and others, choose to include other information when we decide who to vote for.

Who made you the boss?

Why are you not responding to the post I made to you?

You can do what you want. But I can think it is petty, obsessive, irrelevant and goes against the entire point of the show. And I do. Because it does.

[ThriceShy]

It's the unwritten rule of the show, I mean it's pretty much common sense. What's the point in watching the highlights or even in the show existing if we're going to decide who our favourites are and who should win based on the housemates personal lives? We don't have cameras following them for years before they enter the house, it's completely irrelevant. The premise of the show is to watch a bunch of strangers inside a glorified television studio for a couple of months and to see how they interact and judge each of them based upon that. Their jobs, friends, families, private lives are all totally separate from their actions on the show itself and none of it is relevant when it comes to judging who is or who isn't a good housemate (note, the clue is in the name, housemate inside the house, not person outside the show).

Celebrity Big Brother is an entirely different ballgame, but even then I would hope that most people judge each of the housemates on a blank slate based upon what they do inside the house, I certainly do. That is, again, the entire point of the show and putting them in there. The civilian run is different, we don't know them and there's no reason to not judge them all on an equal pedestal. Fishing for outside information on contestants on a reality show is quite frankly just obsessive and pathetic and proves that some people take television way too seriously.

The £100,000 should go to the housemate who has contributed the most to each individual series. It's not (or at least it shouldn't be) a Mr Nice Person contest.

As for the Cameron question, yes, yes it would have been irrelevant. I haven't seen BB4 but heard he was boring, so that's more grounds on which to not deserve to win than anything he believes in or did/does outside of the show.

On one final separate note, what on earth is the problem with visiting prostitutes? :umm2:


If the underlined bit is true then why does rylan put the nominees friends and family in a boxing ring each week and get them to persuade us to not evict them? Hmm?

Why are we shown VTs in which they tell us about their lives and jobs?

By the way, the prostitute thing refers to the fact that cameron claimed to be a virgin.

[ThriceShy]

Why are you not responding to the post I made to you?

You can do what you want. But I can think it is petty, obsessive, irrelevant and goes against the entire point of the show. And I do. Because it does.

I just have. Patience is a virtue.

[Marsh.]

If the underlined bit is true then why does rylan put the nominees friends and family in a boxing ring each week and get them to persuade us to not evict them? Hmm?

.....by talking about how much more the housemates have to offer THE HOUSE and any aspects of the housemates we have yet to see on screen.

But it's all about the house.

[Jack_]

If the underlined bit is true then why does rylan put the nominees friends and family in a boxing ring each week and get them to persuade us to not evict them? Hmm?

Why are we shown VTs in which they tell us about their lives and jobs?

By the way, the prostitute thing refers to the fact that cameron claimed to be a virgin.

Because they are there to support them and try and justify why they should be kept in based on what they have done in the show and can contribute to the show in the future. The inclusion of friends and families in that point was mainly regarding the people who like to also pass judgement on them as if it's at all necessary.

So that we can get a bit of background info on them before they enter the house? It's pretty self explanatory :umm2: it's either that or just let them walk in which I wouldn't be opposed to either, in fact maybe it'd stop the endless discussion and insults about what they do and don't do.

Fair enough. But still, irrelevant to what he contributed (or didn't contribute) to the series itself.

[ThriceShy]

.....by talking about how much more the housemates have to offer THE HOUSE and any aspects of the housemates we have yet to see on screen.

But it's all about the house.

Their friends aren't in the house. Why involve them at all?

BOTS often ask the friends and family what they are like outside of the house and if they are being themselves. Why show us this if it is irrelevant?

In previous series, the sister show cameras used to go to the contestants houses and go in detail about their lives.

[Marsh.]

Their friends aren't in the house. Why involve them at all?

Because they're watching and following it like the rest of us and are putting their views across, which is pretty much what BOTS is for, the opinions of different people from random audience members, family members to the "panellists".

We're not in the house either, yet here we are on a forum dedicated to the show and discussing it.

[Jack_]

eh I don't think it's this clear cut and the circumstances for deciding who wins are dependent on what happens throughout each series. Like, say what you want about Sam Evans (I know I have) but I was thrilled when he beat Dexter, who served the same function as series-ruiners Ziggy, Darnell, Siavash, John James, and Aaron. Rachel Rice is my favorite winner ever because it's the most satisfying narrative: a bunch of freaks treated her like a monster because she was normal and kinda and likable and didn't have a raging personality disorder, she could not possibly give a ****, and then she overcomes all her haters and wins. On a season like BB12, where I ****ing hate the narrative of the series and almost everyone involved, I was rooting hardcore for Alex and Tom because they were the ones least connected to it. Some years I simply root for my favorite like Deana and Gina. This year has been a complete trainwreck so I think Sam would be a very fitting winner. The circumstances of each series change my thought process for it all.

We are never going to agree on this because as far as I see it without the housemates who become the stars of their individual series and contribute the most, we wouldn't really have a show. I know some people prefer to decide upon a winner based on who they like/can relate to and it's something I'll never agree with or support, but my point in that post really was that the prize should be awarded to a housemate based upon what they've done in the house (whether that's brought the most or been the nicest, whatever), not what they do or don't do outside of it. That is, after all, the point of the show.

[ThriceShy]

Because they are there to support them and try and justify why they should be kept in based on what they have done in the show and can contribute to the show in the future. The inclusion of friends and families in that point was mainly regarding the people who like to also pass judgement on them as if it's at all necessary.

So that we can get a bit of background info on them before they enter the house? It's pretty self explanatory :umm2: it's either that or just let them walk in which I wouldn't be opposed to either, in fact maybe it'd stop the endless discussion and insults about what they do and don't do.

Fair enough. But still, irrelevant to what he contributed (or didn't contribute) to the series itself.

It is totally relevant. Cameron won on the strength of being a gentle, moral, religious virgin. If he was really a satanist and prossie lover then he wouldn't have won.

Why weren't you complaining when all of Marc's tweets were being exposed?

[ThriceShy]

Because they're watching and following it like the rest of us and are putting their views across, which is pretty much what BOTS is for, the opinions of different people from random audience members, family members to the "panellists".

We're not in the house either, yet here we are on a forum dedicated to the show and discussing it.

You missed a bit:

BOTS often ask the friends and family what they are like outside of the house and if they are being themselves. Why show us this if it is irrelevant?

In previous series, the sister show cameras used to go to the contestants houses and go in detail about their lives.

[Marsh.]

You missed a bit:

Jack did a pretty good job of addressing that section. I won't waste time repeating the same answer.

[Jack_]

It is totally relevant. Cameron won on the strength of being a gentle, moral, religious virgin. If he was really a satanist and prossie lover then he wouldn't have won.

Why weren't you complaining when all of Marc's tweets were being exposed?

Yes he would, because from what I gather he didn't choose to show this ~satanist prossie lover~ side inside the house, so again, it is totally irrelevant. Had he shown it, yes, you're right, he probably wouldn't have won. But he didn't, so he did...based on what he did inside the house. That again brings us to our point of housemates being perfectly entitled to fake a persona on the show, it is a gameshow and all that matters is whether or not that persona is interesting to watch and/or contributes anything to the show.

And before you start trying to paint me as a Danny lover and a Marc hater as you have done with everyone else, please check my profile favourites list.

I made a post the other night condemning all of these endless Twitter exposing threads for all of the reasons I have listed in this thread. It's rather disturbing.

[ThriceShy]

Jack did a pretty good job of addressing that section. I won't waste time repeating the same answer.

I don't think he addressed it at all.

The issue of whether a housemate is being their real self is absolutely fundamental and is largely what they are judged on. Friends and family and panelists are asked to judge this.

BB sets all kinds of challenges and tasks, such as the cashbomb stuff, to try and draw housemates' real personalities out.

[ThriceShy]

Yes he would, because from what I gather he didn't choose to show this ~satanist prossie lover~ side inside the house, so again, it is totally irrelevant. Had he shown it, yes, you're right, he probably wouldn't have won. But he didn't, so he did...based on what he did inside the house. That again brings us to our point of housemates being perfectly entitled to fake a persona on the show, it is a gameshow and all that matters is whether or not that persona is interesting to watch and/or contributes anything to the show.

And before you start trying to paint me as a Danny lover and a Marc hater as you have done with everyone else, please check my profile favourites list.

I made a post the other night condemning all of these endless Twitter exposing threads for all of the reasons I have listed in this thread. It's rather disturbing.

But if a newspaper had exposed cameron as that then he would not have won, regardless of what he did in the house.

People take all information in when they make such a choice. They can't help it. That is how human beings behave.

If a newspaper reported on the day of the final that Danny, for example, was a wife beater then he wouldn't win, providing enough people read the paper.

Robots might be able to vote according to these strict rules that you have plucked from thin air, but human beings vote based on an overall assessment of the person.

[Marsh.]

I don't think he addressed it at all.


Well, yes he did address it, whether you agree with it or not is separate.

[ThriceShy]

Well, yes he did address it, whether you agree with it or not is separate.

I didn't see him address it. Which post was it in?

[Marsh.]

I didn't see him address it. Which post was it in?

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7973344&postcount=181

He posts about the relevance of VTs of their personal lives and people they know being spoken to/interviewed.

[ThriceShy]

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7973344&postcount=181

He posts about the relevance of VTs of their personal lives and people they know being spoken to/interviewed.

Nowhere in that post does he specifically address this:

BOTS often ask the friends and family what they are like outside of the house and if they are being themselves. Why show us this if it is irrelevant?

In previous series, the sister show cameras used to go to the contestants houses and go in detail about their lives.

Besides, I asked you.

I understand if the questions are too difficult for you.

[Marsh.]

:joker: I think this farce of a thread has reached its limit.

If you can't see how the two relate then clearly you're the one finding it too difficult.

[ThriceShy]

:joker: I think this farce of a thread has reached its limit.

If you can't see how the two relate then clearly you're the one finding it too difficult.

You give up easy.

I think this thread has been very informative for a lot of people and I am grateful for your contribution to it.

[Marsh.]

You give up easy.


I wouldn't call 8 pages at all "easy". :hee:

[ThriceShy]

I wouldn't call 8 pages at all "easy". :hee:

I would.

I've had 100 pages out of people before now.

But, whatever the amount, I would just like to thank you for bumping this important thread and getting this info to people.

[Ammi]

We are never going to agree on this because as far as I see it without the housemates who become the stars of their individual series and contribute the most, we wouldn't really have a show. I know some people prefer to decide upon a winner based on who they like/can relate to and it's something I'll never agree with or support, but my point in that post really was that the prize should be awarded to a housemate based upon what they've done in the house (whether that's brought the most or been the nicest, whatever), not what they do or don't do outside of it. That is, after all, the point of the show.

...do you not think though, Jack...that by the same reasoning, you equally can't have the more controversial and divided housemates like Helen..?..unless you have other housemates who also play a big part in why they're controversial..?../so most talked about, I guess...I mean, you couldn't have had a Marc this year without there being a Sam, Chloe, Harry etc....they all equally play parts in why Marc was discussed so much surely...so then it's down to possibly being things/personalities etc that people can relate to..?...

[ThriceShy]

...do you not think though, Jack...that by the same reasoning, you equally can't have the more controversial and divided housemates like Helen..?..unless you have other housemates who also play a big part in why they're controversial..?../so most talked about, I guess...I mean, you couldn't have had a Marc this year without there being a Sam, Chloe, Harry etc....they all equally play parts in why Marc was discussed so much surely...so then it's down to possibly being things/personalities etc that people can relate to..?...

The fact that a housemate like Helen won last year completely ruins any idea of how the public should vote.

Helen was a disgusting bully inside the house and a vile publicity seeking prostitute outside the house. Voters were aware of both and yet she still won.

So I think Jack and I's argument is probably moot, since the show now seems to be decided by betting syndicates and tactical votes from groups of fans like ashleigh's.

[ThriceShy]

Personallyme, it's like, if I'm going to spend 60 hours (at least!) watching you and it turns out that everything I thought was true about you isn't, thanks for wasting my time?

This has pretty much happened when Rachel Rice won.

She managed to keep her persona going for the entire series.

[RodHull]

In the past it was fine to be judged on just the show, but in todays era with FB and twitter and social media being such a massive part of most peoples lives and the whole process of the show totally changing from a straight up game show experiment to an almost scripted reality program I think their personal lives are fair game tbh

[Razor]

Damn