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spot_on
10-07-2015, 12:51 AM
This show is a borefest since Marc left. None of these drones deserve to win. Is there an option to vote "none of the above" when picking the winner?

Withano
10-07-2015, 12:54 AM
Its a billion times more entertaining since Marc left

MB.
10-07-2015, 01:00 AM
No, no it isn't

(@ the questionably-named spot_on, I mean)

spot_on
10-07-2015, 01:00 AM
Its a billion times more entertaining since Marc left

You must like watching paint dry.

spot_on
10-07-2015, 01:02 AM
No, no it isn't

(@ the questionably-named spot_on, I mean)

Who's the anorexic in your profile picture? By the way, thanks for agreeing with me with your double negative :joker:

Withano
10-07-2015, 01:42 AM
You must like watching paint dry.

You must like watching shouting competitions

You're in the minority btw http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=284275

JamesBond
10-07-2015, 01:49 AM
Its a billion times more entertaining since Marc left

How so ?

Only thing entertaining is the timebomb thing.

JamesBond
10-07-2015, 01:51 AM
This show is a borefest since Marc left. None of these drones deserve to win. Is there an option to vote "none of the above" when picking the winner?

Spot on :)

spot_on
10-07-2015, 01:51 AM
How so ?

Only thing entertaining is the timebomb thing.

They must love the new focus on Harry's tantrums and Chloe's mild dramatics. :sleep:

JamesBond
10-07-2015, 01:54 AM
They must love the new focus on Harry's tantrums and Chloe's mild dramatics. :sleep:

I watch Love Island and maybe BB if there's nothing else on. I'm sure people only watch it because we're so close to the end and they just want to know which dickhead wins.

Withano
10-07-2015, 02:35 AM
How so ?

Only thing entertaining is the timebomb thing.

Marc was detrimental to the show, theres was an obvious and instant improvement when he left.

JamesBond
10-07-2015, 02:37 AM
Marc was detrimental to the show, theres was an obvious and instant improvement when he left.

He was the show, the show fell on its ass as soon as he left.

Give specific examples on how its improved?

spot_on
10-07-2015, 02:40 AM
Marc was detrimental to the show, theres was an obvious and instant improvement when he left.

hmmmm. What specifically were the improvements? The constant sitting around and patting each other on the back, or more focus on Harry and Nick's depressing relationship? Even the cash bombs, which should be really entertaining, were predictable and boring with this lot. The only good thing to come out of it was the evaporation of over half the prize pool. BB has to make the money back that they are losing in lower ratings and vote revenues now that Marc left.

Withano
10-07-2015, 02:40 AM
He was the show,

Agree with that much and he was ****. Fun for a week, repetitive and boring from there on out.

Withano
10-07-2015, 02:41 AM
hmmmm. What specifically were the improvements? The constant sitting around and patting each other on the back, or more focus on Harry and Nick's depressing relationship? Even the cash bombs, which should be really entertaining, were predictable and boring with this lot. The only good thing to come out of it was the evaporation of over half the prize pool. BB has to make the money back that they are going to lose in lower ratings and vote revenues now that Marc left.

Thats not true, the show has improved in the ratings since his eviction. Cba to discuss the rest, it's a difference in opinion, not a correct or incorrect answer (although your opinion is in the minority, mine isn't).

JamesBond
10-07-2015, 02:48 AM
hmmmm. What specifically were the improvements? The constant sitting around and patting each other on the back, or more focus on Harry and Nick's depressing relationship? Even the cash bombs, which should be really entertaining, were predictable and boring with this lot. The only good thing to come out of it was the evaporation of over half the prize pool. BB has to make the money back that they are losing in lower ratings and vote revenues now that Marc left.

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

It's funny because it's true.

Once again spot on mate !

JamesBond
10-07-2015, 02:50 AM
Agree with that much and he was ****. Fun for a week, repetitive and boring from there on out.


That didn't answer my question.

JamesBond
10-07-2015, 02:51 AM
Thats not true, the show has improved in the ratings since his eviction. Cba to discuss the rest, it's a difference in opinion, not a correct or incorrect answer (although your opinion is in the minority, mine isn't).

And you didn't answer his either.

Macie Lightfoot
10-07-2015, 02:51 AM
"Marc was the show" and "The show was complete ****" are definitely correlated :3

spot_on
10-07-2015, 02:52 AM
Thats not true, the show has improved in the ratings since his eviction. Cba to discuss the rest, it's a difference in opinion, not a correct or incorrect answer (although your opinion is in the minority, mine isn't).

Ratings in what context? Of course overall ratings increase slightly as the show gets towards the end as they do every year, but they are lower than previous seasons. They would be much higher if Marc was still in there, because whether you loved him or hate him, you tuned in to watch him.

Mystic Mock
10-07-2015, 02:52 AM
The series is still ****, but it's greatly improved since Marc has left because every Housemate is getting focus instead of it just being “The Marc Show” and they're actually doing a week long task which is refreshing to see.

Mystic Mock
10-07-2015, 02:52 AM
The series is still ****, but it's greatly improved since Marc has left because every Housemate is getting focus instead of it just being “The Marc Show” and they're actually doing a week long task which is refreshing to see.

Withano
10-07-2015, 02:52 AM
That didn't answer my question.

Do you understand what detrimental means?

Would you understand what would happen to something bad if you removed the detrimental attribute.

Your question was answered, your comprehension let you down, perhaps.

Withano
10-07-2015, 02:55 AM
Ratings in what context? Of course overall ratings increase slightly as the show gets towards the end as they do every year, but they are lower than previous seasons. They would be much higher if Marc was still in there, because whether you loved him or hate him, you tuned in to watch him.

You're suggesting that an overnight increase in viewers was because it suddenly became 'nearer the end'? Doesn't seem likely, I feel like you know that too. Its more likely that people tuned back in after hearing the news that Marc was evicted, love him or hate him, people tuned out because of him.

Sunday (the first episode without him since his entrance) was the most watched episode of the series excluding the launch. Take off your 'I love Marc glasses' mate

JamesBond
10-07-2015, 02:56 AM
The series is still ****, but it's greatly improved since Marc has left because every Housemate is getting focus instead of it just being “The Marc Show” and they're actually doing a week long task which is refreshing to see.

More focused on the tasks?

Lol, this isn't the workplace.

JamesBond
10-07-2015, 03:00 AM
Do you understand what detrimental means?

Would you understand what would happen to something bad if you removed the detrimental attribute.

Your question was answered, your comprehension let you down, perhaps.

My question was -

Give specific examples on how its improved?

To which you replied -

Agree with that much and he was ****. Fun for a week, repetitive and boring from there on out.

It was answered incorrectly, maybe not reading it let you down.

Withano
10-07-2015, 03:06 AM
My question was -

Give specific examples on how its improved?

It was answer incorrectly, maybe not reading it let you down.

Specific example #1 The main detrimental attribute to the show was evicted due to popular demand

Hope that helps bae

Mystic Mock
10-07-2015, 03:08 AM
More focused on the tasks?

Lol, this isn't the workplace.

Tasks have always been an integral part of the show along with the shopping list (which has sadly been abolished) but they was too busy in this series giving Marc silly one day tasks that nobody else was getting a chance to standout.

spot_on
10-07-2015, 03:08 AM
You're suggesting that an overnight increase in viewers was because it suddenly became 'nearer the end'? Doesn't seem likely, I feel like you know that too. Its more likely that people tuned back in after hearing the news that Marc was evicted, love him or hate him, people tuned out because of him.

Sunday (the first episode without him since his entrance) was the most watched episode of the series excluding the launch. Take off your 'I love Marc glasses' mate

Not according to the ratings thread.

JamesBond
10-07-2015, 03:09 AM
Specific example #1 The main detrimental attribute to the show was evicted due to popular demand

Hope that helps bae

Wow you did the same thing again ?

Omg :laugh:

JamesBond
10-07-2015, 03:12 AM
Tasks have always been an integral part of the show along with the shopping list (which has sadly been abolished) but they was too busy in this series giving Marc silly one day tasks that nobody else was getting a chance to standout.

So your final answer is tasks and shopping lists ? :laugh:

Well at least you understood the question unlike the other guy.

JamesBond
10-07-2015, 03:15 AM
Now I understand why Marc and Joel get so frustrated.

spot_on
10-07-2015, 03:15 AM
Specific example #1 The main detrimental attribute to the show was evicted due to popular demand

Hope that helps bae

He was evicted because it was a vote to evict, not save. Bitter and jealous fans of the boring drones wanted Marc out because he was getting air time (and rightfully so). They teamed up together because they knew their housemate had no chance to win over Marc.

Imagine if you were the producer of the show and you had your choice of Joel pretending he is morally superior, Harry who is depressing, Nick who follows around a stripper like a puppy dog, Danny and Cristian who have personalities of a vanilla wafer, "woe is me" Chloe, or an entertaining bloke like Marc? Can you blame them for focusing on Marc?

I actually feel sorry for the producers of the show right now, putting together an entertaining hour with these housemates must be like getting you fingernails pulled.

Mystic Mock
10-07-2015, 03:19 AM
So your final answer is tasks and shopping lists ? :laugh:

Well at least you understood the question unlike the other guy.

Well not just those things, I would also bring Live Feed back and cast more diverse contestants as that's what got BB it's name in the first place.

And with the Marc's of the series so that the public doesn't get fed up of them, I would actually not show them in some highlights so it's not overkill and overly relying on just one Housemate.

Marc was not my worst contestant in this series, but his constant presence in almost every segment of every highlight show killed it for me.

Withano
10-07-2015, 03:19 AM
He was evicted because it was a vote to evict, not save. Bitter and jealous fans of the boring drones wanted Marc out because he was getting air time (and rightfully so). They teamed up together because they knew their housemate had no chance to win over Marc.

Imagine if you were the producer of the show and you had your choice of Joel pretending he is morally superior, Harry who is depressing, Nick who follows around a stripper like a puppy dog, Danny and Cristian who have personalities of a vanilla wafer, "woe is me" Chloe, or an entertaining bloke like Marc? Can you blame them for focusing on Marc?

I actually feel sorry for the producers of the show right now, putting together an entertaining hour with these housemates must be like getting you fingernails pulled.

Entertaining in your opinion.. a lot of people would disagree, the producers could have easily frozen the lines and reopened the lines between Marc and Harry if they wanted to save Marc but they didn't. Because they know he's nowhere near as popular or valuable as you think he is inside your own mind

spot_on
10-07-2015, 03:28 AM
Entertaining in your opinion.. a lot of people would disagree, the producers could have easily frozen the lines and reopened the lines between Marc and Harry if they wanted to save Marc but they didn't. Because they know he's nowhere near as popular or valuable as you think he is inside your own mind

Didn't matter what the producers did, not in a vote to EVICT. A vast majority of the fans of the other housemates voted to evict Marc, and not Harry or Sam who should have rightfully been evicted based on their contribution (or lack thereof) to the house. No way Marc could overcome that. From the polls to the bookmakers, they all showed that Marc had the most fans out of the lot. But in a vote to evict, that doesn't matter.

BB realizes this and that is why they went to a vote to save format in previous seasons. Not sure why they switched back, but I am sure they are regretting it now due to the borefest this show has become.

Withano
10-07-2015, 03:28 AM
Wow you did the same thing again ?

Omg :laugh:

Do you understand what detrimental means? Removing a detrimental attribute makes it greater. You originally asked a question on a post with the answer inside of it, I've ran out of ways to reword the answer to help you understand, sorry.

Withano
10-07-2015, 03:30 AM
Didn't matter what the producers did, not in a vote to EVICT. A vast majority of the fans of the other housemates voted to evict Marc, and not Harry or Sam who should have rightfully been evicted based on their contribution (or lack thereof) to the house. No way Marc could overcome that. From the polls to the bookmakers, they all showed that Marc had the most fans out of the lot. But in a vote to evict, that doesn't matter.

BB realizes this and that is why they went to a vote to save format in previous seasons. Not sure why they switched back, but I am sure they are regretting it now due to the borefest this show has become.

Thats not true, he was second after Jack in the polls and third after Jack and Harry in the bookies. Do you just like to do guesswork in the hope that it might help you prove a point. I don't think I can count the incorrect claims that you've made on this thread on one hand anymore.

spot_on
10-07-2015, 03:30 AM
Do you understand what detrimental means? Removing a detrimental attribute makes it greater. You originally asked a question on a post with the answer inside of it, I've ran out of ways to reword the answer to help you understand, sorry.

Detrimental attribute is your opinion. (see, two can play at this game.)

Withano
10-07-2015, 03:30 AM
Detrimental attribute is your opinion. (see, two can play at this game.)

The guy was asking for my opinion.

Xtopher
10-07-2015, 03:31 AM
It IS crap. Marc was the huge highlight of this season for me. I don't even care who wins at this point, but as you said no one is deserving.

spot_on
10-07-2015, 03:31 AM
Thats not true, he was second after Jack in the polls and third after Jack and Harry in the bookies. Do you just like to do guesswork in the hope that it might help you prove a point. I don't think I can count the incorrect claims that you've made on this thread on one hand anymore.

Earlier yes, but not during the last vote. They even said on BOTS that Marc was the bookie favorites right before he got evicted.

spot_on
10-07-2015, 03:32 AM
The guy was asking for my opinion.

No ****, these are all opinions. That was my point.

JamesBond
10-07-2015, 03:34 AM
Do you understand what detrimental means? Removing a detrimental attribute makes it greater. You originally asked a question on a post with the answer inside of it, I've ran out of ways to reword the answer to help you understand, sorry.

Okay just to make this as easy as it can possibly be.

Since Marc aka the entertainment of the house left, what entertainment value have the other housemates shown?

There you go, I had to spell it out for you.

It's too funny that your actual answer to my question was that they took away the big bad wolf and now we can all live happily ever after.

I'd actually like you to look at the title of this thread.

Withano
10-07-2015, 03:36 AM
No ****, these are all opinions. That was my point.

ok, well we have different opinions. I understand yours although your constant use of making up stuff to support your argument was unnecessary, I would have understood your opinions without the bs claims.

Theres a lot of people who agree with you, I'm sure.. But polls point towards people preferring the show without him, the ratings point towards the show improving without him (the cashbomb promos may have helped, we'll have to give it a week before we know for sure), the producers could have frozen the lines to save Marc and imo, the show is not more boring without him, its greater in every single way, though, still bad compared to other series'.

Withano
10-07-2015, 03:42 AM
Okay just to make this as easy as it can possibly be.

Since Marc aka the entertainment of the house left, what entertainment value have the other housemates shown?

There you go, I had to spell it out for you.

It's too funny that your actual answer to my question was they took away the big bad wolf and now we can all live happily ever after.

There was no entertainment, for me, when he was inside the house any entertainment from here on in is an improvement for me, and considering it is my favourite show, a week of normality is entertaining to me. I'm a people watcher and watching people without a clown is better than watching people with a clown.
I understand that you disagree and that's fine, asking for specifics is a weird question to ask when I can give you the answer "every single aspect is more entertaining". If you refuse to accept this as an answer, I'm over it, it is my answer to your question that was answered before you asked.

JamesBond
10-07-2015, 04:02 AM
There was no entertainment, for me, when he was inside the house any entertainment from here on in is an improvement for me, and considering it is my favourite show, a week of normality is entertaining to me. I'm a people watcher and watching people without a clown is better than watching people with a clown.
I understand that you disagree and that's fine, asking for specifics is a weird question to ask when I can give you the answer "every single aspect is more entertaining". If you refuse to accept this as an answer, I'm over it, it is my answer to your question that was answered before you asked.

Fine, C- and I'm being nice.

You could have simply said Sam is now her own person and no longer in Marc's shadow. Any kind of genuine positive improvements from at least one of the housemates was all I was looking for.

Nothing weird or difficult about it.

BigBuk
10-07-2015, 05:28 AM
Marc was the most entertaining. It wasnt just his arguments that were entertaining it was his sense of humor too. The people I've seen on this forum that dislike him are just sheer biased. He was the most liked HM it's a fact, argue all you want it's a fact. Go look on Twitter, online newspaper comments like the daily mail, just check the comments were pro Marc comments are getting over 800+ thumbs up. Anything social media wise.

If you genuinely think the show has improved since he's left I pity you. Only funny thing thats happened was Joel spending £2500 on a pizza, bar that its been Harry being a psychopath, Chloe moaning about money and Chloe arguing with Jack and Danny which were terrible arguments as not one of them are funny and their insults are terrible.

All remaining HMs bar Joel and Jack have added nothing funny towards the show. No wait Christian's raps was so bad it was funny and he's an aspiring rapper. Add Christian too.

ThriceShy
10-07-2015, 06:55 AM
Since when does being in the minority make someone wrong?

The majority of americans believe god exists. They are all wrong.

Only sheep would align their views with a majority, simply because it is a majority view.

bots
10-07-2015, 06:59 AM
Marc served a purpose, he stirred it up a bit, good for him. He was never going to win.

This series has been filled with a terrible cast lacking any depth, but the show has not become boring since Marc left, if anything it has become more interesting for this week at least.