BB15 V BB16

[Will.]

Sorry but defo BB15, far better than this mess, I would have said BB16 if it wasn't for this week tbh.

[MB.]

BB15 >>>>>

And I'm genuinely considering re-watching BB15 at some point or another to wash the taste of this series away. That's how bad it is.

[Will.]

BB15 >>>>>

And I'm genuinely considering re-watching BB15 at some point or another to wash the taste of this series away. That's how bad it is.

not even joking I actually like BB15 now, there was far more buzz for it than this ****.

I actually might re watch BB15 to!

[Daniel-X]

BB16 is slightly better but for sure these last six days will be abysmal and Bb15's last week will have been better

[Jason.]

I've always said BB15 was better.

BB15 was more organized than this ****shower of a series. As vile as the BB15 bunch were, you could root for them. The BB15 finalists were not that bad. It speaks volumes when Helen Wood is more deserving of being a winner than any of the final six this year.

BB16 is literally up there with BB12, after tonight.

[Xtopher]

As much as I dislike this series right now, I still vote for bb16. I can't bear thinking of revisiting that series at all. At least the first half of this series was good.

[zakman440]

I've said constantly this series that I'd take the first two weeks of it over the entire of BB15. But it just can't make up for the shambles of a series that this has been, so I voted BB15 in the poll.

[Will.]

I've always said BB15 was better.

BB15 was more organized than this ****shower of a series. As vile as the BB15 bunch were, you could root for them. The BB15 finalist were not that bad.It speaks volumes when Helen Wood is more deserving of being a winner than any of the final six this year.

BB16 is literally up there with BB12, after tonight.

yeah It was far more organised, and there were people who I really rooted for!

[RodHull]

If you removed Marc and the timewarp week this series was worse than BB4 after tonight... it was awful

[Firewire]

BB16 has had better housemates but BB15 was a better series

[Ashley.]

BB16 (Week 1-2) >>>>>>>>>> BB15 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BB16 (Week 3+)

[Jason.]

Let's be honest, BB15 had awful production. But the twists were only little meddling nominations twists, and actually fitted in with the theme.

This year the twists have been show-ruining.

[Will.]

i re watched BB16 launch and it was amazing, if they had kept with the all of them it could have been so good.

[Jason.]

BB13 >> BB14 >>>>>>>>> BB15 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shingles >>>>> BB16 >>> BB12


BB16 before 4in4out >>> BB15 before Week 3/4 >>>>>>>>>>>>> Rest of BB15 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chlamydia >>>>>> Rest of BB16

[Jase.]

I never thought I'd say it but yeah, BB15 over BB16 aaaany day.

[Moosething]

BB 15 is a better series overall although BB 16 had potential at the start.

BB 15 had finalists that you actually wanted to win
http://33.media.tumblr.com/ecb3ed2166e44d8153603ebde8ca7c8c/tumblr_n85q9nTVrv1txis9uo1_250.gif

[Beetlejuice]

Stalin vs. Hitler

[Will.]

They need to make BB17 good, its time the themes were dropped.

[Will.]

It's so annoying how they have made brilliant CBB's recently but awful BB's recently.

[Will.]

the BB15 house :love:

[Jason.]

I'm beginning to debate whether BB16 is worse than BB12.

If you think about it BB12 only sucked because of bad casting and lack of live feed (which all C5 series have had). When you look at the problems the show has had over the last two years, the problems of BB12 aren't minute in comparison. Sadly the show has much bigger problems now.

At least BB12 wasn't a producer manipulated mess.

[jackc1806]

BB16 has the best house on 5 by far, some decent housemates, first two weeks had classic vibes ect, since has descended into a ludicrous, unstable, chemical mix that has spewed out **** stir task after **** stir task, every week some vile nomination twist, the legends and the hotel completely rendering the series pointless considering it went on for 3-4 weeks. One word to describe this series is desperate.

Last year, vile people, vile theme, consistently vile however, and had some classic moments- this series has had one. Jade with her 'aww did someone get a warning'

Both ****, can we go back to BB13 styley please? (Next best if we never have C4 style again)

[Jase.]

BB7 > BB6 > BB5 > BB9 > BB10 > BB2 > BB3 > BB14 > BB13 > BB8 > BB12 > BB11 > BB4 > BB15 > BB16

*didn't watch BB1

[Jamesy]

They are both equally as bad. I'd still choose BB16 though, just for the pure fact the cast is slightly better than BB15s.

[jackc1806]

I'm beginning to debate whether BB16 is worse than BB12.

If you think about it BB12 only sucked because of bad casting and lack of live feed (which all C5 series have had). When you look at the problems the show has had over the last two years, the problems of BB12 aren't that bad.

At least BB12 wasn't a producer manipulated mess.

Aaron saved BB12, some vile tasks like the film premiere with the whole of OK magazine coming into the house, but no worse than the stream of legends who populated the house for 3 weeks this year.

I enjoyed BB12 but I was 12/13. Haha.

[Jason.]

BB16 house is crap.

The BB15 house was the most C4 looking house. It dropped the gaudy feel all the other C5 houses, and fitted in well with the theme, and was slick and modern.

BB15 house would've been even better if they didn't use the same layout as BB14 house.

[MB.]

BB16 has the best house by far, some decent housemates, first two weeks had classic vibes ect, since has descended into a ludicrous, unstable, chemical mix that has spewed out **** stir task after **** stir task, every week some vile nomination twist, the legends and the hotel completely rendering the series pointless considering it went on for 3-4 weeks. One word to describe this series is desperate.

Last year, vile people, vile theme, consistently vile however, and had some classic moments- this series has had one. Jade with her 'aww did someone get a warning'

Both ****, can we go back to BB13 styley please? (Next best if we never have C4 style again)

Yeah, for all of BB15's negatives, they were often balanced out by classic moments - many of which the public were part of (namely Ashleigh's iPhone Army and Winston's eviction). This series has really lacked that.

[TomC]

Both pretty darn bad, but BB15 kills BB16. This series has been a messy farce.

Last year's finalists seem titanic compared to this year!

And at least last years twists weren't geared to help their favourites (bar Week 7)

[jackc1806]

BB16 house is crap.

The BB15 house was the most C4 looking house. It dropped the gaudy feel all the other C5 houses, and fitted in well with the theme, and was slick and modern.

BB15 house would've been even better if they didn't use the same layout as BB14 house.

This living room is much better, bedroom is horrible this year though

[TomC]

Both pretty darn bad, but BB15 kills BB16. This series has been a messy farce.

Last year's finalists seem titanic compared to this year!

And at least last years twists weren't geared to help their favourites (bar Week 7)

[Will.]

The only thing I like about BB16 house is the garden and bedroom at now.

The living area is quite horrid tbh - the kitchen is disgusting.

[MB.]

Not to mention Tamara going first, Two Second Steven, "open it", Hurricane Toya, the seance... don't say I'm getting nostalgic for BB15...

[Jason.]

Aaron saved BB12, some vile tasks like the film premiere with the whole of OK magazine coming into the house, but no worse than the stream of legends who populated the house for 3 weeks this year.

I enjoyed BB12 but I was 12/13. Haha.

BB12 was tacky as effin hell. But there was only a few problems with that series.

Now, there's many problems. And most of them stem from the production who will stay with the show till 2018. Constant twists, and manipulation. BB12 didn't have that.

BB12 only sucked because of a fame-hungry, un-diverse cast, and really bad tacky TOWIE editing and quality.

[jackc1806]

Yeah, for all of BB15's negatives, they were often balanced out by classic moments - many of which the public were part of (namely Ashleigh's iPhone Army and Winston's eviction). This series has really lacked that.

And the legendary Helen v Danielle argument, and Danielle's fish :love:

[MB.]

(BB12 could have been as good as BB13 with a better cast, I think. Not even a particularly more diverse one - just better, whatever that means)

[Jason.]

Not to mention Tamara going first, Two Second Steven, "open it", Hurricane Toya, the seance... don't say I'm getting nostalgic for BB15...

BB15 isn't that bad for the first 4 weeks, compared to BB16 which died after 2 weeks, and got worse as the weeks went on.

By the end of BB15, you felt drained. By the end of BB16, you feel like giving up on the show that you once loved.

[jackc1806]

BB12 was tacky as effin hell. But there was only a few problems with that series.

Now, there's many problems. And most of them stem from the production who will stay with the show till 2018. Constant twists, and manipulation. BB12 didn't have that.

BB12 only sucked because of a fame-hungry, un-diverse cast, and really bad tacky TOWIE editing and quality.

Yeah, the editing has improved a lot. But the production has got worse, like at least BB12 followed the basic format of BB (apart from LF)

[Jason.]

(BB12 could have been as good as BB13 with a better cast, I think. Not even a particularly more diverse one - just better, whatever that means)

More entertaining, and less showmancey.

[Jase.]

By the end of BB15, you felt drained. By the end of BB16, you feel like giving up on the show that you once loved.

So well put.

[Jason.]

Also, with BB15. The eviction orders were great.

Literally every single eviction this series has been the wrong decision, in my eyes, with the wrong person going. From Adjoa to Sam.

[RodHull]

It's so annoying how they have made brilliant CBB's recently but awful BB's recently.

I actually think thats part of the problem.

In CBB you can get away with grand twists and stupid crap cause its more OTT but in BB it should just be about watching how a house of people interact and screw each other over for the prize. But the constant meddling from producers have made it almost unwatchable. Like one or two twists a series is fine and has an impact, one or two a week just becomes very :sleep:

[Moosething]

Not to mention Tamara going first, Two Second Steven, "open it", Hurricane Toya, the seance... don't say I'm getting nostalgic for BB15...

^

[Will.]

Also, with BB15. The eviction orders were great.

Literally every single eviction this series has been the wrong decision, in my eyes, with the wrong person going. From Adjoa to Sam.

I agree, BB15 had some good eviction results but every eviction apart from Marc has been crap.

[jackc1806]

BB15 isn't that bad for the first 4 weeks, compared to BB16 which died after 2 weeks, and got worse as the weeks went on.

By the end of BB15, you felt drained. By the end of BB16, you feel like giving up on the show that you once loved.

That actually sums it up!

Talking about BB12, Tashie, Rebekkah, Aden, Anton, Maisy, Aaron, Faye, Jem, Mark, Heaven were fantastic housemates imo

[FacelessME]

BB15 was shi.t from start to finish.

[Will.]

BB15 was shi.t from start to finish.

week 1 - 4 were decent. (When Toya left)

week 6 was good as Marlon went, and Danielle fish.

and week 10 was good.

[MB.]

Also, with BB15. The eviction orders were great.

Literally every single eviction this series has been the wrong decision, in my eyes, with the wrong person going. From Adjoa to Sam.

Also true. Even when there are some particularly horrible evictions in a series, it always seems to redeem itself somehow. The only other two occasions where the eviction order's been dreadful without redemption from start to finish for me are BB4 and BB11 - two of my least favourite series.

[Jason.]

In all fairness, I can see CBB going down the same route as BB soon.
Having 2 series of CBB over-saturates the format. No way can they find 80 celebrities to do CBB, till 2018.

Not to mention, yes CBB15 may be the highest rated C5 CBB series. But, if they have more series like that with constant twists, and negativity, as well as basing the series around 2 housemates. I can see people getting bored, really quickly.

CBB15 was pretty much BB15 with an amazing cast, and less bullying.

[Daniel.]

15 because ashleigh

[MB.]

No way can they find 80 celebrities to do CBB, till 2018.

Jesus, when you put it like that... axe civilian BB, axe it now.

[jackc1806]

In all fairness, I can see CBB going down the same route as BB soon.
Having 2 series of CBB over-saturates the format. No way can they find 80 celebrities to do CBB, till 2018.

Not to mention, yes CBB15 may be the highest rated C5 CBB series. But, if they have more series like that with constant twists, and negativity, as well as basing the series around 2 housemates. I can see people getting bored, really quickly.

Well we have Karen Selfiewoman this year...

[Will.]

In all fairness, I can see CBB going down the same route as BB soon.
Having 2 series of CBB over-saturates the format. No way can they find 80 celebrities to do CBB, till 2018.

Not to mention, yes CBB15 may be the highest rated C5 CBB series. But, if they have more serious like that with constant twists, and negativity, as well as basing the series around 2 housemates. I can see people getting bored, really quickly.

the good thing about CBB twists is there quite harmless, like the queen of the fairies twist in CBB15 and the Scrap Heap in CBB14, there quite fun but bad at the same time. Although there have been some stupid twists.

[reece(:]

Well we have Karen Selfiewoman this year...
Her to surpass Samantha Brick as irrel flop?

[Moosething]

BB16 started too early imo

[EspeonBB]

I mean BB15 was awful but at least I had Ashleigh to root for plus there were other entertaining moments sprinkled through the series (the Helen/Danielle argument, Toya's week 3 meltdown, Winston's eviction etc.)

BB16 was good until 4 In 4 Out but has now become a complete mess.

[Jason.]

BB16 started too early imo

I'd agree with that.

I love a May launch as much as anyone else. But 12th May was really cutting it. BB16 should've launched two weeks later, by the latest.

[MB.]

BB16 started too early imo

Yes, it should have started next Thursday.

And finished next Thursday.

[jackc1806]

Her to surpass Samantha Brick as irrel flop?

When ultimate flop Bobby Sabel put sweat in Darron's can <3

[MB.]

Her to surpass Samantha Brick as irrel flop?

I liked ha </3

[jackc1806]

I'd agree with that.

I love a May launch as much as anyone else. But 12th May was really cutting it. BB16 should've launched two weeks later, by the latest.

It won't be that early next year, they aren't that stupid... Surely :laugh:

[Jason.]

Yes, it should have started next Thursday.

And finished next Thursday.

I think a 21st May launch would've sounded reasonable. 12th May just looked wrong for a BB launch. Not to mention the promo for BB16 ****bomb was zilch.

[Will.]

BB16 launch felt like a winter launch.

[Jason.]

It won't be that early next year, they aren't that stupid... Surely :laugh:

I think if we do get a BB17, they'll probably go back to a later May launch.
I'm thinking Wednesday 25th May 2016, lasting to 10 weeks, till 5th August 2016.

I can't see it being later unless they make it shorter, otherwise it'll clash with The Olympics.

[MB.]

Just do a 6/7 week-long All Stars next year and relaunch civilian BB the year after. They'd be foolish not to.

[Lostie!]

I actually do think BB16 overtook BB15 in terms of badness by the end. :worry:

I thought they both started so well, too. :facepalm:

[Jason.]

BB16 launch felt like a winter launch.

It was like 3 months after CBB15. Too close.

On C4, it would 4 months max.

[Will.]

looking forward to Rio 2016

[TomC]

Not to mention Tamara going first, Two Second Steven, "open it", Hurricane Toya, the seance... don't say I'm getting nostalgic for BB15...

I can totally relate to this - before BB16 I was thinking 'lets hope this series is better than BB15' but during BB16 I've genuinely found myself longing for moments like the ones youve mentioned from BB15. I'm now left thinking BB15 was an okay series. It was certainly memorable.

[Moosething]

I actually do think BB16 overtook BB15 in terms of badness by the end. :worry:

I thought they both started so well, too. :facepalm:

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/06/06/article-0-1E8A4D5500000578-82_634x478.jpg

[jackc1806]

(wants all stars but wants to apply because 18 now so sorry)

[jackc1806]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/06/06/article-0-1E8A4D5500000578-82_634x478.jpg

OMG welp

[MB.]

looking forward to Rio 2016

His career's not that bad just yet, surely?

[Jason.]

Who'd apply to be on C5 BB given the state it is now?

I applied for BB9. But, I'd never apply for any C5 series, certainly not now anyway.

[Lostie!]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/06/06/article-0-1E8A4D5500000578-82_634x478.jpg

Well apart from that mess obviously. :whistle:

[Time]

After tonight BB15 wins by a mile.

[Jason.]

I wonder if CBB17 will be as good as CBB13 and CBB15.

[FacelessME]

week 1 - 4 were decent. (When Toya left)

week 6 was good as Marlon went, and Danielle fish.

and week 10 was good.

TBH, I didn't like how people treated Marlon. People were giving Marlon grief, because he saved himself. He got a really ruff deal in his final week and I was glad he went. Helen totally dominated the series.

[MB.]

I wonder if CBB17 will be as good as CBB13 and CBB15.

It's a summer series so no

[Jason.]

It's a summer series so no

I said CBB17 not CBB16. :joker:

[Will.]

Who'd apply to be on C5 BB given the state it is now?

I applied for BB9. But, I'd never apply for any C5 series, certainly not now anyway.

Im going to apply for BB19!

Maybe with my mum.

[Will.]

I said CBB17 not CBB16. :joker:

I think It could be, things always come in 3.

[Moosething]

Getting nostalgic over
http://www.unrealitytv.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/big-brother-2014-armageddon-week-2-460x246.jpg

[Jason.]

Im going to apply for BB19!

Maybe with my mum.

You might want to sign up for an agent beforehand. They won't even give you a second glance without you having some sort media connection or being signed to an agency.

[Will.]

Armageddon wasn't even that bad apart from the Danielle twist, the tasks were really good. With Time Warp we were promised original tasks but got nothing.

I love how Armageddon got 1.8 M and Time Warp got like 1.3 at 3 legends entered.

Armageddon had brilliant promotion unlike Time Warp.

[Jason.]

Oh no. Armageddon sucked. Even when you compare it to BB16. It was so pointless.

[Jase.]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/06/06/article-0-1E8A4D5500000578-82_634x478.jpg

:joker:

[Moosething]

dTd1evQ3QJg
I had such high hopes for Armageddon week but the 3 new hms were awful

[Jason.]

Open auditions really need to come back. ASAP.

[Will.]

You might want to sign up for an agent beforehand. They won't even give you a second glance without you having some sort media connection or being signed to an agency.

yeah my mum got through on BB14 but she's has media connection.

[Jason.]

yeah my mum got through on BB14 but she's has media connection.

Jemima?

[Will.]

Jemima?

No lol, although at BB14 they were the same age (42), both run businesses, both from west London etc.

My mum would have been far better than Jemima but she would be Helen Wood 2.0.

she didnt want to go further with it though, they called like 4 times that day and my made me answer to say she was busy.

[Jason.]

No lol, although at BB14 they were the same age (42), both run businesses, both from west London etc.

My mum would have been far better than Jemima but she would be Helen Wood 2.0.

Yeah. Maybe it's a good thing she didn't go in. :hehe:

[Jason.]

dTd1evQ3QJg
I had such high hopes for Armageddon week but the 3 new hms were awful

I'll agree to that.
I think the new 4in4out housemates were better. Even Marc, and I dislike him.

[Will.]

Yeah. Maybe it's a good thing she didn't go in. :hehe:

It would be dreadful I think, although BB14 cast wasn't to bad.

[jackc1806]

When will Will's nan?

[Jason.]

It would be dreadful I think, although BB14 cast wasn't to bad.

Yeah. But if she was like Helen. She would've come across bad. And you'd have people on here hating her and saying nasty things about her, which would be hard to witness.

[Will.]

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[Jason.]

When will Will's nan?

Jackie? :fan:

[Will.]

Yeah. But if she was like Helen. She would've come across bad. And you'd have people on here hating her and saying nasty things about her, which would be hard to witness.

yeah although I'm not sure what she would have been like tbh, it depends I guess, they called like 4 times one day and she stopped answering, everyone was annoyed at her for not saying yes.

[Rob!]

It anybody else had won BB15 then I would have said that series. But Helen is that vile a **** that I have to go for this year. At least this year she left absolutely despised.

[Will.]

My nan will do it in her own time

[Macie Lightfoot]

I'm beginning to debate whether BB16 is worse than BB12.

If you think about it BB12 only sucked because of bad casting and lack of live feed (which all C5 series have had). When you look at the problems the show has had over the last two years, the problems of BB12 aren't minute in comparison. Sadly the show has much bigger problems now.

At least BB12 wasn't a producer manipulated mess.

I've been rewatch 12 and I can definitely confirm that it is better than 16. And this is coming from someone who ****ing loathes Aaron. I'd even argue that 12 is better than 15 tbh.