Why bother

[sampvt]

If this is the shape of BB to come, they can stick it up their arses. It was predictable that Harry was going and not before time but the Sam saga was pure s.h.i.t.e. It wouldn't have made any difference if she had 1000 or 100000 on her board, Danny and company where always going to throw her out and the Prods knew that. She was a deliberate production team eviction and they had no right to do that, we evict, not them.

Emma and Rylan were crapper than normal and their obsession with twitter trolls is getting boring. Nicki Graham made a complete arse of herself and even Joe was a bit of an opinionated wanker tonight. Doreen was the only panellist that stood out but even she was off point on a few things but the whole show was a let down as Rylan let it get away from him.

Joel created a drama out of nothing as usual and Danny nearly wet himself when he seen his prize fund going up over 100k. Chloe had a narrow escape and they can all kiss eachothers arses for yet another week and pretend they love eachother to bits when in reality, they hate eachother.

This is the weakest bunch of tossers and wannabees in any year of bb and the series was ruined by BB themselves so they only have themselves to blame. BB is dead for me and I cant see them coming back from this. Twitter is alive with Producer condemnation and I think it will be the least watched final in many years.

Someone needs sacking or the show needs to be closed down for a couple of years, its too predictable these days and these producers think its a reality spin off with scripts and manufactured storylines that constantly blow up in their faces.

[RodHull]

It was a shocker... I mean I dont even understand what it was supposed to achieve

The twist lacked drama lacked tension it was obvious shed be picked, there was no dilemma and they werent even given time to wrangle over the decision 30 seconds it was like boom gone see ya... what was the point in it?? It was a clear production team eviction, every twist this series (I lost track of them all) has been crap tbh and ill judged.

A good twist would be someone can take the prize fund now and walk tonight... and see the arguments it caused. But this **** was terrible disliked sam but the way she went was proper shady

[Withano]

We can agree here. The show is ****, it has been for a while but i suppose part of me was a bit optimistic for my favourite show finishing before dying. Wont be watching the civilian one again (unless there is an obvious and drastic change on the next launch night)

[Rorkimaru]

I was impressed with their clever misdirection, "They chose the envelopes themselves". Regardless, the twist was next to guaranteed to get Sam/Harry out.

[bots]

i agree, i'm fed up with the whole thing now. Emma and Rylan have become dreadful bias presenters. They can complain all they like about twitter comments, but they cannot deny their bias, its clear for all to see

[Angelika]

I am so pleased I opted not to watch BBOTS or any live feeds, I have watched off and on over this series and I agree with what you say.

Last year I suggested they give Ryland a miss and just have a half hour show with the back room girls & boys showing unseen footage etc. Did they listen? Not a dam.

If there is a next series I'm not even watching a single night of it.

[Angelika]

We can agree here. The show is ****, it has been for a while but i suppose part of me was a bit optimistic for my favourite show finishing before dying. Wont be watching the civilian one again (unless there is an obvious and drastic change on the next launch night)

I'm afraid it's already dead!

I won't be watching civilians again, maybe if there is a decent celeb line up but as soon as the anti-social and disturbed behaviour starts I'll stop watching.

[sampvt]

i agree, i'm fed up with the whole thing now. Emma and Rylan have become dreadful bias presenters. They can complain all they like about twitter comments, but they cannot deny their bias, its clear for all to see

The one thing they fail to see is that there is never smoke without fire so if they were up front and correct, the twitter trolls wouldn't have anything to moan about. This year they are way too biased and its killing not only the show but their careers as well.

[RodHull]

as soon as the anti-social and disturbed behaviour starts I'll stop watching.

Those are the best bits though :dance:

[REDCROP]

I think to say Sam was a production team eviction is ridiculous ...They chose the envelopes at random themselves ...BB didn't place the envelopes on the table, the housemates did ...The process was completely random....Sam just happened to made her f-ck off value 15 grand....if Sam had been worth a thousand quid she'd still be in there now and Chloe or Jack would be gone....Make no mistake about that. ..and I'm sure Chloe and Danny would have understood, after all, they all agreed they would never rob from the winners money ...

[Moosething]

Oracle giving up on BB?

[REDCROP]

It's not the producers fault or Emma fault it's the idiot voters fault. ..Corn fed cretins following like a herd of sheep....I see it on here all the time....people are voting for who they fancy or who they think is cute or who they think is not a very nice man ....doesn't matter to me how bias idiots think Emma is ...No one makes decisions for me..I know my own mind and it's never influenced by anyone .

I vote for the best game players ...even if I don't like them as people ....that's the point of the show ...its not a fix...its just rubbish voters

[bots]

I think to say Sam was a production team eviction is ridiculous ...They chose the envelopes at random themselves ...BB didn't place the envelopes on the table, the housemates did ...The process was completely random....Sam just happened to made her f-ck off value 15 grand....if Sam had been worth a thousand quid she'd still be in there now and Chloe or Jack would be gone....Make no mistake about that. ..and I'm sure Chloe and Danny would have understood, after all, they all agreed they would never rob from the winners money ...

no, Sam was going to be evicted no matter the amount, that's why it was a fix

[Pete.]

Awful twist. The more I think about it, the more i'm baffled by it

[REDCROP]

no, Sam was going to be evicted no matter the amount, that's why it was a fix

That's very naive to think that Danny wouldn't have saved Sam....he was no longer looking at Sam, Chloe and Jack...he was looking at 15 grand, 10 grand and 1 grand. ...he would have thrown Chloe to the wolves to put 15 grand in that pot, and if reversed she would have done the same to him. ...same goes for Jack....eyes like a sh-t house rat all three of em.. .They'd take the sugar out ya tea if they could.
I was so gutted that the price on Chloes head wasn't 15 grand....

[Marsh.]

If this is the shape of BB to come

To come? It's the shape of BB the last 4 years.

[Pete.]

no, Sam was going to be evicted no matter the amount, that's why it was a fix
The money was a ruse by the production to mask the fact that they were just handing this eviction over to the men

[camertone]

bb new rule change -> producers decide who gets evicted..

[Pete.]

bb new rule change -> producers decide who gets evicted..
Basically

[REDCROP]

It's an assault course with 150 grand at the end ....They have to earn it by beating apponents. ...that means being a clever game player so the house mates don't nominate you, the public don't evict you and the producers don't throw you on the cutting room floor....The producers are one of the apponents. ..not a fix...part of the game....if only original housemates remained then who ever had been the best game player over the last two months would have been the safest tonight ....Sam had 3 things that made her lose tonight ...she was not an original hpuse mate, she was not a very good game player and she chose the unlucky envelope that gave her a head price of 15 grand .....if voters can not understand that and choose to think it's all a fix then no wonder the programme is doomed ....

[REDCROP]

Sam was doomed no matter what BB did ....any number of variations couldn't have saved her....No new housemate is gonna be in the final unless they are amazing game players or unless they're worth a lot of money by staying ....if it had been diary room noms she would have been evicted...if it had been face to face noms she would have been evicted...BB offered her a chance that newbies don't usually get at this stage ...and if she had chosen the lucky envelope she may very well still be in there tonight....she was unlucky that's all....she picked the unlucky envelope when BB threw her a life line....not a fix...not fare to keep accusing BB of fixing ....its gonna end up with the show being cancelled because no matter what BB do the viewers are just never grateful

[REDCROP]

If you don't believe in Big Brother then why do you watch the show ? ..Makes no sense....unless you like to make yourself unhappy
I don't believe in God so I don't go to church. ...why would I...what wud be the point ?
I think some people are only happy when they are unhappy

[BENDERBOY]

She was leaving no matter what the amount was in her envelope.

Pure fix to get rid of her, they made a mug out of all those people who tried to save her by voting for someone else.

[REDCROP]

She was leaving no matter what the amount was in her envelope.

Pure fix to get rid of her, they made a mug out of all those people who tried to save her by voting for someone else.

Nothing more blind than people who refuse to see ...I am stunned by what you believe ....you are so mistaken ....The public would have evicted her anyway no matter what ....BB gave her a chance to roll the dice and she chose the unlucky number ....These accusations towards BB are just stupid

[BENDERBOY]

Nothing more blind than people who refuse to see ...I am stunned by what you believe ....you are so mistaken ....The public would have evicted her anyway no matter what ....BB gave her a chance to roll the dice and she chose the unlucky number ....These accusations towards BB are just stupid

Then it's the blind leading the blind, there really wasn't enough money in her envelope to make her eviction worthwhile, 50 to 100 thousand maybe, a 5 grand diff with Chloe was nothing, even if she's picked the 1.000 the producers and the audience knew that the original housemates would stick together and eject the newbie.

[JamesBond]

Bottom line we watch the show because of the contestants and not the show. Take away the housemates and no one would watch it.

They think they're doing a good job just because people continue to watch.

[sampvt]

If sam had have got the 1000 envelope and chloe the 15000 one, bb would have announced that the prize fund will go DOWN by the amount on the card of the chosen evictee, simples. The colour code was to help bb know who had which amounts before they opened them.

[Miss Nicole]

If you don't believe in Big Brother then why do you watch the show ? ..Makes no sense....unless you like to make yourself unhappy
I don't believe in God so I don't go to church. ...why would I...what wud be the point ?
I think some people are only happy when they are unhappy

Everything you have said I agree with , why are people so negative!

[Miss Nicole]

If sam had have got the 1000 envelope and chloe the 15000 one, bb would have announced that the prize fund will go DOWN by the amount on the card of the chosen evictee, simples. The colour code was to help bb know who had which amounts before they opened them.

All just sounds like sour grapes because Chloe didn't go.
I think it's great the originals are together I am really pleased they all get on , like Jack said during live feed last night last year the finalists hated each other which made it awkward viewing and that we have all got to the final feeling was quelled with negativity.
You mentioned these housemates were a weak bunch? They have survived the worst head f@@k of a bb series ever! Must have been crazy in there. I think some people perceive 'nice ' as weak and downright horrible as strong well the person that takes a minute to think before they speak , to be aware of the connotations of what they and to have enough integrity to not want to destroy people by throwing personal insults that cut to the bone get my vote and make me feel good in my heart.

[sungrass]

The one thing they fail to see is that there is never smoke without fire so if they were up front and correct, the twitter trolls wouldn't have anything to moan about. This year they are way too biased and its killing not only the show but their careers as well.

just wondering, who are they biased for/against?

[abhorson]

Sam was meh to me. But i can see that her eviction was a rotten way to go. Zero drama too.

As 90% have said. Danny, Cristian and Nick would have chosen her even if she had the 1K.

[REDCROP]

She didn't impress BB enough to get them on side...so even if BB engineered the twist to evict her, which I don't believe anyway, then she should have been a better game player and impressed them better ....The housemates left are the ones clever enough and devious enough to keep the other housemates and the public and BB on their side ...They have to compete with all 3 factors and she failed on the last one...she should never have got this far so in think you should be happy for her...

[REDCROP]

Nothing wrong with BB wanting to get someone out...The house mates do it. ..We do it....big brother can do it...It was a rotten twist and that's what was genius about it ...when it came down to it Sam just hadn't impressed her housemates enough to save her or the public to save her . And if the twist was meant to get rid of her then she hadn't impressed BB enough to save her

[Pete.]

Nothing wrong with BB wanting to get someone out...The house mates do it. ..We do it....big brother can do it...It was a rotten twist and that's what was genius about it ...when it came down to it Sam just hadn't impressed her housemates enough to save her or the public to save her . And if the twist was meant to get rid of her then she hadn't impressed BB enough to save her
No they can't, that's called fixing

[Robodog]

i agree, i'm fed up with the whole thing now. Emma and Rylan have become dreadful bias presenters. They can complain all they like about twitter comments, but they cannot deny their bias, its clear for all to see

Totally true.

They just display blatent bias (such as asking Helen to apologise for retalliating to Brian's aggression, but not asking Brian to apologise for his three abusive outbursts AT Helen, in fact not once did either of them even suggest that Brian was even in the wrong for his appalling, aggressive behaviour!)

Instead, Rylan and Emma just say 'we are very fair on this show'.

NO, i'm sorry - SAYING it does not make it so. You have to actually BE un-biassed for us to believe you!

And you blatently were not fair.

This has been the worst season for BOTS by miles. Very one sided and full of screaming hate mobs verbally attacking Helen with personal and spiteful insults, FAR worse than anything she ever said about anyone else.
As for bias, not once did either Emma or Rylan say 'hang on, that's not a nice thing to say about someone, you can't exactly accuse Helen of being nasty then go and say something even worse about her yourself!'

BOTS has fanned the flames of hatred this year. They have given the signal that 'it's ok' to be horrible to or about Helen, but SHE cannot say one bad word against anyone.

Total hypocrisy. Spoiled the series for me this year. AND i was a Brian fan! Not any more.

[sampvt]

I totally agree with the fact that the best result for the production team was one without boring sam, but it was the way they did it. She wasn't being shoved by the public so they took it on their own shoulders to kick her out and get the best in the last 6 but in saying that, the 6 left are mostly scum anyway so who cares.

[REDCROP]

NO IT'S NOT ....LOL...They can take people out just like they can put people in....but I don't think they did that anyway .. but if they did then THEY CAN...The house mates after impress the other housemates and the public AND BB...its their show so as a house mate you gotta impress BB above all else ...They were her boss and she didn't work hard enough ....she was a rubbish game player ... and if you actually believe that it's a con and it's against women and the winner is already decided then WHY ON EARTH DO YOU WATCH THE SHOW ? WHY ? Why don't all the people on here who keep bitching about BB and slagging off Emma Willis just clear off to another show instead.....go...leave this forum page to those of us who like BB and who think they've worked their ass off to entertain us all summer.....its not their fault all the good housemates have gone it's ours.. The voters.. .They give us amazing game players and people just throw them away. . Till we are left with lame entertainment like Sam ... If you don't believe in Big Brother don't watch it ....I don't believe in God so I don't go to church ...why would I ? Wud make no sense.....

[REDCROP]

The housemates put her up for eviction not BB...putting a price on her head so we could watch the steely eyed Dan and the cunning Joel in full attack was a brilliant twist ....like putting a small fish on a hook to catch the sharks ....she should have played harder at being the shark then she would still be in there

[REDCROP]

3 girls up for eviction after the cash bomb task this week ...Harry chose not to compete for the cash button ...Sam wasn't aggressive enough to go for it before it was too late ...and Chloe wasn't fast enough or sharp enough to beat the boys...its not a fix against women ....from my observations the females are often the ones attacking the females ...that's why Harry was evicted on Friday night because one of the 'sisters are doing it for themselves' brigade royally stitched her up on BOTS on Thursday night ...Claire Muldoon on the BOTS panel openly said that Harry is mentally unstable ..A danger to herself and possibly others and needs to be taken away ...if you really want to talk about disgusting unacceptable stitch ups then you look to another woman .

[Miss Nicole]

NO IT'S NOT ....LOL...They can take people out just like they can put people in....but I don't think they did that anyway .. but if they did then THEY CAN...The house mates after impress the other housemates and the public AND BB...its their show so as a house mate you gotta impress BB above all else ...They were her boss and she didn't work hard enough ....she was a rubbish game player ... and if you actually believe that it's a con and it's against women and the winner is already decided then WHY ON EARTH DO YOU WATCH THE SHOW ? WHY ? Why don't all the people on here who keep bitching about BB and slagging off Emma Willis just clear off to another show instead.....go...leave this forum page to those of us who like BB and who think they've worked their ass off to entertain us all summer.....its not their fault all the good housemates have gone it's ours.. The voters.. .They give us amazing game players and people just throw them away. . Till we are left with lame entertainment like Sam ... If you don't believe in Big Brother don't watch it ....I don't believe in God so I don't go to church ...why would I ? Wud make no sense.....

All of this.

[Tarryn]

For all the twists & timebombs BB tried to throw in we are still left with the original clique all patting themselves on their backs.
Was any of it worth it :shrug:
Sam & Harry were always going to go last night. The highlights show was all Harry & the voting was still open.
I now just don't care who wins.
This is the first series I have felt this way.
They should have thrown in one more eviction this next week before the final as now they are all going to sit around pretending to be nice to each other.
Why am I thinking Marc was right......................