Why is Joel so precocious....HATE HIM

[elliebrew]

Smarmy little nightmare.

A poster on DS said it better than i could

'What's wrong with him? He acts like he's thirty years older than he is, when in reality he's a kid with a long way to go and a lot of life to experience. Is anyone else cringing when he gesticulates like a politician and alludes to a superior set of ethics?

Joel has proven to be spineless, slightly weird young man and I can only imagine his popularity here is due to how dull the rest of them are.'

[Marsh.]

A poster on DS said

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[Liam-]

:sleep:

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[Liam-]

As much as he irritates me, he has been the one person left who's been true to himself all the way through and I appreciate that, he doesn't act like a 19 year old no, but that's because he's dedicated and passionate about the career he wants to get into, he can't be faulted for that.

[elliebrew]

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Well you know i thought i better point out that this isn't my wording....because last time i got accused of stealing....LMAO

[Marsh.]

Well you know i thought i better point out that this isn't my wording....because last time i got accused of stealing....LMAO

I wasn't referring to you using it, more showing how much I despise that forum. Lol

[abhorson]

To me he is meh. Just that he comes across as smarmy. And does not endure himself to me.

[joeysteele]

Not a single thing wrong with acting thirty years older than you are just as there is not a thing wrong with acting thirty years younger than you are too.

I also don't think he is precocious,he is just in the main honest and principled.

[rionablue]

Smarmy little nightmare.

A poster on DS said it better than i could

'What's wrong with him? He acts like he's thirty years older than he is, when in reality he's a kid with a long way to go and a lot of life to experience. Is anyone else cringing when he gesticulates like a politician and alludes to a superior set of ethics?

Joel has proven to be spineless, slightly weird young man and I can only imagine his popularity here is due to how dull the rest of them are.'

He is brilliant. Has more maturity than the rest put together, has been himself, has stuck to his values despite what others do, he is quirky, witty and a decent young lad. My winner

[bots]

Not a single thing wrong with acting thirty years older than you are just as there is not a thing wrong with acting thirty years younger than you are too.

I also don't think he is precocious,he is just in the main honest and principled.

i think he is an unpleasant, sneaky, calculating so and so personally. The finalists are all very unpleasant people in my opinion.

[dyfed]

Smarmy little nightmare.

A poster on DS said it better than i could

'What's wrong with him? He acts like he's thirty years older than he is, when in reality he's a kid with a long way to go and a lot of life to experience. Is anyone else cringing when he gesticulates like a politician and alludes to a superior set of ethics?

Joel has proven to be spineless, slightly weird young man and I can only imagine his popularity here is due to how dull the rest of them are.'

So agree,and to think he is from my part of the world 😡

[joeysteele]

i think he is an unpleasant, sneaky, calculating so and so personally. The finalists are all very unpleasant people in my opinion.

Obviously I disagree but you are right to have whatever perception you have formed of him.

[Lostie!]

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Oi, I'm on DS. :hmph:

[Marsh.]

Oi, I'm on DS. :hmph:

Point. Proven.

[jet]

He is brilliant. Has more maturity than the rest put together, has been himself, has stuck to his values despite what others do, he is quirky, witty and a decent young lad. My winner

But he doesn't stick to his values. He berated others for taking money (Sam and Jack taking £100 for their suitcases and now complaining about Jack in the latest money twist), while he himself thought it was a great joke to buy a pizza for £2500. Don't you find that hypocritical?

[elliebrew]

He is brilliant. Has more maturity than the rest put together, has been himself, has stuck to his values despite what others do, he is quirky, witty and a decent young lad. My winner

Did you vote Tory too?

[Liam-]

Did you vote Tory too?

What has the way she votes got to do with anything? :suspect:

[Jamesy]

Joel has done the most out the lot of them so deserves to win in that way tbh

[Ashley.]

He's mature. What's wrong with that? Why should we have to act our age? :suspect:

[jet]

Joel has done the most out the lot of them so deserves to win in that way tbh

He hasn't though. He's been more visible than Chloe and Christian, granted, but that's it. He hasn't had a real storyline either, unlike the others.

[Ashley.]

Precocious, ay? :suspect:
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[y.winter]

He's patronising and robotic. I can barely say who is Joel, he's just a pile of obvious statements.

[JTM45]

Yep........the word 'Precocious' could have actually been thought up just to describe Joel. It describes him to an absolte tee!!!:facepalm:

I wonder whether if he doesn't win he'll try and make a big fuss about coming out in an attempt to snatch a little bit of press or maybe a story in Hello magazine to salvage something out of the situation. Would-be politicians are never ones to miss out on even the slightest press opportunity.:bored:

[Jay.]

idk maybe ask him

[jet]

He's patronising and robotic. I can barely say who is Joel, he's just a pile of obvious statements.

Yes, that's it. It's hard to know who Joel is as he is so controlled and buttoned up. He seems rather a cold fish too. He seems to view life as one big question and answer session, with him as the decider as to the right answer. :rolleyes:

[vafunghoul]

He's not as mature as he thinks he is but he's far more mature than those trashing him here.

Funny, his questioning and reasoning skills don't bother me at all.
Everyone else's stupidity and lack of comprehension is far more disturbing.

[sungrass]

Smarmy little nightmare.

A poster on DS said it better than i could

'What's wrong with him? He acts like he's thirty years older than he is, when in reality he's a kid with a long way to go and a lot of life to experience. Is anyone else cringing when he gesticulates like a politician and alludes to a superior set of ethics?

Joel has proven to be spineless, slightly weird young man and I can only imagine his popularity here is due to how dull the rest of them are.'

Hes a spoilt boy.

Thats not his fault.

As he grows up, if he continues in politics Im sure he will a be a spin maker and a PR machine - which he already is

He "presents" himself - rather than naturally interact with anyone - ever! A PR machine nothing more going on at all.

It amazes me he has ANY support at all

[abhorson]

Somebody just said it. He is a spin machine. And normally, what do the GBP think of spin merchants. They are derided.

[JTM45]

I think by going into the BB house Joel has scuppered any slight chance he may have had of ever becoming a 'real' politician!
He'll never be taken seriously in the World of Politics after this. Even if he tries to work his way up from a local councillor people will always see him as that precocious kid who went on Big Brother and didn't know which part of a chicken the eggs come out of!!!!:facepalm:

Even if he can get past that any potential political opponents will whip their iPads out and pull up a clip of Joel dancing around in a mini-skirt and skintight gold jacket and he'll be done!!! :laugh:

His bloody pushy mother can probably take all the credit for this bad decision!

[abhorson]

I think by going into the BB house Joel has scuppered any slight chance he may have had of ever becoming a 'real' politician!
He'll never be taken seriously in the World of Politics after this. Even if he tries to work his way up from a local councillor people will always see him as that precocious kid who went on Big Brother and didn't know which part of a chicken the eggs come out of!!!!:facepalm:

Even if he can get past that any potential political opponents will whip their iPads out and pull up a clip of Joel dancing around in a mini-skirt and skintight gold jacket and he'll be done!!! :laugh:

His bloody pushy mother can probably take all the credit for this bad decision!

Aaron's dick waving at Joel's butt has finished his chances. It will forever be played. Not Joel's fault, But it was Joel's gamble.

[Mystic Mock]

His trying to play to the new wave of BB viewers that are now sadly the majority as it's making for boring BB's, and in a different way to Ch4 it's also making for boring winners as these right wing prodigies just keep going onto win every year just to spout off their agenda.

I have nothing against right wing contestants, I've even supported some of them in the past, it's just that I'd rather BB go back to being a left wing show again as it suits it's format a lot more than this does.

[Mystic Mock]

He's not as mature as he thinks he is but he's far more mature than those trashing him here.

Funny, his questioning and reasoning skills don't bother me at all.
Everyone else's stupidity and lack of comprehension is far more disturbing.

Let's see him getting accused of being a 40 year old on the Internet.:joker:

I do agree with you that I hate a house full of thickos, but isn't that just BB for you nowadays? I know that most of the Ch4 lot weren't exactly Mensa, but they could hold 3D conversations, and when in an argument it wasn't constantly just telling the other person to shut up.

[abhorson]

His trying to play to the new wave of BB viewers that are now sadly the majority as it's making for boring BB's, and in a different way to Ch4 it's also making for boring winners as these right wing prodigies just keep going onto win every year just to spout off their agenda.

I have nothing against right wing contestants, I've even supported some of them in the past, it's just that I'd rather BB go back to being a left wing show again as it suits it's format a lot more than this does.

Helen winning last year. Was that the Raving Monster Looney Party voters. Left or right?:laugh:

[Mystic Mock]

Helen winning last year. Was that the Raving Monster Looney Party voters. Left or right?:laugh:

Helen's win was like a more entertaining take on the right wing agenda compared to Joel this year.

The main things that helped Helen win though was that Ashleigh was a pretty blonde, and that some of her supporters (no offense) was unique to everybody else which Ch5 played on.

[abhorson]

Helen's win was like a more entertaining take on the right wing agenda compared to Joel this year.

The main things that helped Helen win though was that Ashleigh was a pretty blonde, and that some of her supporters (no offense) was unique to everybody else which Ch5 played on.

Sounds more like a left wing lunacy to me with Helen winning. A fight against the normal.

[bots]

Joel is a good communicator, that doesn't make him intelligent. I've not seen any evidence of an outstanding intellect, he is just a bit quicker off the blocks than the rest of them.

Its one of the reasons I think this BB has been the worst. The intelligence level of them is so low that they are completely one dimensional characters. When discussions revolve around does he/she fancy me etc, you know its not going to be a vintage year, and that has proven to be correct as this series has progressed. It was a terrible choice of cast by the producers.

[Mystic Mock]

Sounds more like a left wing lunacy to me with Helen winning. A fight against the normal.

You see Ashleigh as more normal, but Ch5 don't want normal and they never will.

I mean just look at the people that they've billed as big characters in this series? Not one of them is normal.

[abhorson]

Joel is a good communicator, that doesn't make him intelligent. I've not seen any evidence of an outstanding intellect, he is just a bit quicker off the blocks than the rest of them.

Its one of the reasons I think this BB has been the worst. The intelligence level of them is so low that they are completely one dimensional characters. When discussions revolve around does he/she fancy me etc, you know its not going to be a vintage year, and that has proven to be correct as theis series has progressed. It was a terrible choice of cast by the producers.

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Although Nick is a smart cookie. He just wants to avoid EVERY single confrontation. Cristian is smart too but does not use his intelligence well in arguments. Jack next the Chloe and Danny as the two who are as thick as pig ****.

[abhorson]

You see Ashleigh as more normal, but Ch5 don't want normal and they never will.

I mean just look at the people that they've billed as big characters in this series? Not one of them is normal.

More a fight against the system. Very left wing.

[Mystic Mock]

The intelligent Housemates of this series are/were.

Joel (for targeting the main demographic)
Jack
Nick
Chloe
Cristian
Aaron
Kieran
Harriet
Simon
Marc (the most intelligent of the series imo)

[Mystic Mock]

More a fight against the system. Very left wing.

You could see it like that I suppose.

I doubt Ch5 would want to though.:joker:

[Liam-]

Hate is a very strong word

[abhorson]

You could see it like that I suppose.

I doubt Ch5 would want to though.:joker:

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[JamesBond]

Smarmy little nightmare.

A poster on DS said it better than i could

'What's wrong with him? He acts like he's thirty years older than he is, when in reality he's a kid with a long way to go and a lot of life to experience. Is anyone else cringing when he gesticulates like a politician and alludes to a superior set of ethics?

Joel has proven to be spineless, slightly weird young man and I can only imagine his popularity here is due to how dull the rest of them are.'

He's the best one in there right now, and he's definitely not spineless. He's the only one that has the balls to stand up to Danny.

[Miss Nicole]

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Although Nick is a smart cookie. He just wants to avoid EVERY single confrontation. Cristian is smart too but does not use his intelligence well in arguments. Jack next the Chloe and Danny as the two who are as thick as pig ****.

Christian didn't know what insecure meant? Isn't he doing psychology at Uni?

[susie q]

I just find him boring he has not varied his behaviour at all, his reactions to situations doesnt vary which has made him predictable, therefore dull.

[joeysteele]

He's the best one in there right now, and he's definitely not spineless. He's the only one that has the balls to stand up to Danny.

Well said,he is indeed.