Worst channel 5 winner? Helen or Aaron

[EspeonBB]

Discuss x

[LukeB]

Helen, bullying makes me feel sick

[zakman440]

Definitely Helen. Lord Aaron >

[Headie]

Helen but both are awful and don't have a patch on Chloe :clap1:

[Jake.]

Helen, no idea how she's comparable to Aaron but yeah

[Macie Lightfoot]

If you asked me a year ago I would've said Aaron but Helen's win has aged sooooooooo badly that I am really not sure

[MB.]

Well Helen is an awful winner, housemate and person so her

[MB.]

(I also think that Sam's worse than Aaron but that's only because I haven't watched BB12 in full) (or, like, at all) (and I'm not willing to change that any time soon)

[Pete.]

Helen has no redeeming qualities about her

[Jase.]

Um, Helen remains the worst Big Brother UK winner of all time.

[Macie Lightfoot]

I might just stick with Aaron as the worse winner just to have some variety in this thread. I know we all like to block BB12 out of our memories but he really was that bad.

[Cherie]

Definitely Helen. Lord Aaron >

:clap1:

[Ramsay]

I can't believe this is even a question

[Moosething]

I haven't seen BB12. Why do ppl hate Aaron?

[joeysteele]

I'd vote Helen for this one, Aaron was my favourite from the first week in that series, I would never consider him a bad or unworthy winner by any standards.

[andybigbro]

Helen by a mile.

[Daniel.]

Both are equally trash this is hard :worry:

[Lostie!]

Aaron is C5's best civilian winner (admittedly mainly by default), and Helen is the worst by a million miles.

[Ross.]

Helen

[Vicky.]

Aaron was the best c5 winner, and possibly near the best overall winner too...

[Macie Lightfoot]

I haven't seen BB12. Why do ppl hate Aaron?

He was a petulant, whiny brat. He would throw tantrums and fits all the time when things didn't go his way (BUT I DON'T WANT TO LISTEN TO R&B! BUT I DON'T WANT INDIAN FOOD!) and was a huge hypocrite. He would hold grudges for days on end and place people on speaking bans because everything was about how offended he was and his sense of propriety, but how dare anyone be mad at him! He would try to justify every petty, attention-seeking move he did like throwing the shopping task and sabotaging the shopping budget (because he hated like two other HMs and took it upon himself to punish everyone around him) but would it would be so against his morals for people to burp near him.

Also, his relationship with Faye was really emotionally abusive and uncomfortable. He'd do something really shady (kiss another girl, place her on a speaking ban because she burped in his proximity, call her a two-faced gameplayer for not cutting ties with Louise or whatever) and put on a wounded production about how upset HE was, get Faye to apologize to him and try to patch things up, and then he'd smother her with "I love you"s at night in bed and act like they were just friends the next morning. Think Steven and Kimberly before they happened.

[Pete.]

Macie :love:

[Gillian-73]

Helen! I loved Aaron. Over the moon when he won! Helen and Aaron, no comparison at all!

[MojoNixon]

Great vote! However moderators seems not to be to happy about it....

[jackc1806]

Aaron was the best winner EVER.

[Mokka]

Aaron was my King :worship:

[Jack_]

Both are the best and most deserving winners of all time

Aaron is a better person though (not often I judge on that) so him

[Ant.]

Who voted for Aaron :suspect:

[MB.]

Both are the best and most deserving winners of all time

oh dear

[Jack_]

oh dear

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[reece(:]

Macie's Aaron analysis :clap1:

He may be worse.

[LukeB]

Both are the best and most deserving winners of all time

Aaron is a better person though (not often I judge on that) so him

but why was Helen deserving? her treatment towards Jale,Christopher and Chris was really uncomfortable to watch and it wasn't good tv at all. Awarding that (won;t shock me if steven voted for her loads of times) is not a good message at all. Aaron was good tv, Helen wasn't imo

[nonstop]

The rated called Helen.

[MB.]

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[Lampfan]

Aaron was the best c5 winner, and possibly near the best overall winner too...

:douf:

Thought I'd landed on another planet with this thread. Comparing him to Helen :huh:

[Macie Lightfoot]

I don't think that this thread's implying that they're similar in personalities, because they're not. They just both happen to have **** personalities ^_^

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

Helen 100%

[rusticgal]

Aaronn was the best winner ever...the underdog no one ever thought would win against all the odds stacked against him.

[M X]

Helen.

[Firewire]

From the poll I chose Helen. But Sam is Channel 5's worst winner.

[goldensunlight]

Aaron was and most probably will always be the best winner ever.

[Jack_]

From the poll I chose Helen. But Sam is Channel 5's worst winner.

spill that factual tea

[qwerty42]

Aaron is the best winner of all time.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Aaronn was the best winner ever...the underdog no one ever thought would win against all the odds stacked against him.

He was literally the most predictable winner, especially considering that he topped the vote in Week 1, 3, 5, AND 7. There was nothing shocking about it at all, and the odds weren't even stacked against him.

[LukeB]

He was literally the most predictable winner, especially considering that he topped the vote in Week 1, 3, 5, AND 7. There was nothing shocking about it at all, and the odds weren't even stacked against him.

I thought Mark/Alex would have won tbh

[Vicky.]

He was literally the most predictable winner, especially considering that he topped the vote in Week 1, 3, 5, AND 7. There was nothing shocking about it at all, and the odds weren't even stacked against him.

I don't think it was a shocking result (though I did think Jay would take it for one horrific moment) but it was sooo obvious c5 did NOT want him to win, so in that way he was the underdog. BOTS was ridiculously biased, the editing of Aaron was shocking to say the least...I mean, they even went to the trouble of cutting him off midsentence and splicing clips to make him out to be an utter twat :joker: And then when it became clear he was likely to win, they give away half of his prize money in a huff. Was priceless really :D

[Macie Lightfoot]

I'm in the penultimate week of my BB12 rewatch and BOTS hasn't been biased at all. If anything, the general reception of Aaron has been mildly positive at worst, and often times the whole room erupts in cheers and applause when someone says that Faye is playing Aaron or that Aaron is so misunderstood or that he's been given such a tougher time than he deserves.

I just think that a lot of Aaron fans made him out to be some false martyr kinda like how this show was so rigged against Marc this year despite the fact that he had immunity for a whole month :shrug:

[JamesBond]

Aaron was good entertainment.

Helen was a strong character.

Both were good.

[karezza]

Worst poll ever.

[Vicky.]

LOL at the show being rigged against Marc :D Who on earth has been saying this? He was my fave but they did everything they could to keep him tbh, besides doing a vote freeze on his eviction night, but I do think by then they saw him as disposable as they had the cashbomb stuff lined up so he was no longer needed to provide footage :D

[Black Dagger]

Best male and female winner of C5 respectably. Glorious people.

[Jack_]

Best male and female winner of C5 respectably. Glorious people.

yaaaaaasss someone with sense :clap1:

[Miss Nicole]

Helen .

[jet]

Both are the best and most deserving winners of all time

Both are the worst and most undeserving winners of all time.

Awful horrible people.

[Brother Leon]

Lol. Wtf. They are the best two winners the show has had. Never mind C5. I'm no Aaron fan either.

[jet]

Lol. Wtf. They are the best two winners the show has had. Never mind C5. I'm no Aaron fan either.

lol wtf :laugh:
Brian Dowling and Nadia were the best. :dance:

[JamesBond]

lol wtf :laugh:
Brian Dowling and Nadia were the best. :dance:

:laugh: Nadia

I like Brian though.

[Jack_]

Both are the worst and most undeserving winners of all time.

Awful horrible people.

lol no

There is a difference between people and housemates also. I don't necessarily disagree with your second point (although it's a bit excessive for Aaron), but they were both amazing housemates.

[Macie Lightfoot]

:shrug: all Aaron did was throw annoying tantrums and all Helen did was shout in people's faces and call them ***** and ****.

[AarynGriesfan]

Helen at 88% in the poll! :joker:

[Loukas]

Helen - vile excuse of a winner.
I blame Pauline :bored:

[jennyjuniper]

Chloe.
Sam.
Helen.

[Jake.]

all Helen did was shout in people's faces and call them ***** and ****.

but that doesn't matter because doing SOMETHING = entertainment!!!!! :amazed:

[Benjamin]

All the winners on C5 have been awful.

[billy123]

Equally pathetic in different ways there is no way i could choose.

[Semtex]

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[waterhog]

give up trying to convince anyone that aarron was a terrible winner as i have to accecpt there is far more love for him then hate but for me - he destroyed that series and he was a bore. oh dearrrrrrrrrrrrr

[rocket]

Aaron was brilliant ...my favourite of all time
Helen should have been booted out ..pass to the final, such a fix.
Never want to see her again..
Worst winner of all time..

[Kazanne]

Both the best winners Channel 5 produced,loved them both so cannot chose one over the other,both,great housemates.

[Black Dagger]

Both the best winners Channel 5 produced,loved them both so cannot chose one over the other,both,great housemates.

:clap1:

[BigBuk]

Think you've misspelled Chloe and Sam.

[reece(:]

but that doesn't matter because doing SOMETHING = entertainment!!!!! :amazed:
She told it as it ****ing is and foghorned over everyone else :sleep:

[Lostie!]

Best male and female winner of C5 respectably. Glorious people.

How does someone who loves Rachel Rice also love Helen Wood? :o

I'll just forget you like the latter and remember your brilliant Rachel support. :laugh:

[Tregard]

The thing is even if you detest Aaron (which, honestly, I think you're insane for thinking), even if you ignore both their personalities, Aaron not only survived every eviction he topped every vote he was in, whereas Helen was immune until the final. On that basis alone, Aaron is a better winner.

[Gusto Brunt]

Without question, Aaron from BB12. I couldn't stand him, or his idiot girlfriend he met on the show, Faye Whatshername.

Both ruined that series - more so Aaron because of his arrogance and his constant tarting. Made worse still by the other female housemates saying how great he was. Pass the sick bucket.

I very rarely use the word 'hate'. But I hated Aaron for ruining BB12. Fair enough there were a few very annoying housemates in there with him, but HE dominated the series.

In fact, I was so annoyed I stopped watching 4 weeks in. When I found out he won, it didn't come as a surprise. Not because he deserved it but because he apparently cast a weird spell over the viewers which I am happy to say I wasn't taken in by.

[REDCROP]

Neither ....worst ch 5 winner was last night....at least the other two were good game players and werent sabotaged by BB, who chose to dish the dirt on Danny and Christians private lives 2 days before the final to discredit them while protecting Chloe from having her own much worse murky past exposed on air....total stitch up of Danny and Christian....and a cover up for Chloe

[Robodog]

Neither, they were both good winners.

Sam was the worst BB winner. He did nothing all series apart from tell a few rubbish jokes, sit on the grey chairs with Calum and then finally he woke up and layed into dexter in the last few days. Then once he won, he never even once said thank you to his voters, fans or the show.

[Jack_]

Neither, they were both good winners.

Sam was the worst BB winner. He did nothing all series apart from tell a few rubbish jokes, sit on the grey chairs with Calum and then finally he woke up and layed into dexter in the last few days. Then once he won, he never even once said thank you to his voters, fans or the show.

YAS spread the facts and end the ****ing dull **** :cheer2:

[zakman440]

62 votes for Helen :laugh3: :clap1:

[Jack_]

I'm amazed this poll hasn't been edited tbh when my bloody joke Showbiz one was :idc:

[Black Dagger]

62 votes for Helen :laugh3: :clap1:

Obsessed

[Robodog]

Obsessed

Yep the anti-Helen hate mob just keep rolling out the nastiness towards Helen.

It doesn't matter that she did nothing bad all series (apart from tell the man standing over her and screaming abuse in her face that he LOOKED LIKE a rapist/murderer as he was being physically restrained and looking like he wanted to kill her)

But no - just because everyone has PIGEON HOLED Helen as a 'bully' it somehow makes them think they can 'bully' her with FAR more verbal abuse than she ever gave anyone.

Talk about a bunch of hypocrites.

[Macie Lightfoot]

oh the mental gymnastics some people go through to make it seem like Helen doesn't have a black hole where her heart is

[Kazanne]

Yep the anti-Helen hate mob just keep rolling out the nastiness towards Helen.

It doesn't matter that she did nothing bad all series (apart from tell the man standing over her and screaming abuse in her face that he LOOKED LIKE a rapist/murderer as he was being physically restrained and looking like he wanted to kill her)

But no - just because everyone has PIGEON HOLED Helen as a 'bully' it somehow makes them think they can 'bully' her with FAR more verbal abuse than she ever gave anyone.

Talk about a bunch of hypocrites.

People seem to get super excited the more hate Helen gets? I mean really what sort of people do that? Helen has far more verbal and bile thrown at her, than she has ever given to anyone,so she gobbed off at Brian,Jale and Mathew,so what ? there's plenty gobbing off at her.

[Kazanne]

oh the mental gymnastics some people go through to make it seem like Helen doesn't have a black hole where her heart is

It's not mental gymnastics,it's knowing people are different and even people who seem nasty can and do change for the better,the only black holes I see are the ones some people talk out of.

[MB.]

So are we supposed to excuse Helen's behaviour because she's only been horrible to a few people or are we supposed to like her because you do or what

[Macie Lightfoot]

what change did Helen undergo because she's exactly the same as she was a year ago, or even worse.

[Kazanne]

So are we supposed to excuse Helen's behaviour because she's only been horrible to a few people or are we supposed to like her because you do or what

No one needs to EXCUSE her or like her,but really are we all so wonderful we've never said or done anything wrong,because that 's what it sounds like,plus if we are honest most of the hate for Helen is because she won over Ashleigh,people are still bitter fact,the bully card is just a cover for those sour grapes. Don't excuse her,dont like her,but FCS,stop vilifying her for the same crap as people are coming out with.It's the same old boring crap ,get over the fact she won,we know some aren't happy with that,but hey ho that's life.

[Jason.]

what change did Helen undergo because she's exactly the same as she was a year ago, or even worse.

She had more work done this year. :nono:

[Kazanne]

what change did Helen undergo because she's exactly the same as she was a year ago, or even worse.

Helen is and can be a very nice person,just some people don't like to see that because they 'hate' her so much,shame really,so many wasted emotions.

[Kazanne]

She had more work done this year. :nono:

as do millions of people,their money their choice

[Jason.]

as do millions of people,their money their choice

That wasn't a dig. I was just pointing it out.

[Angelika]

62 votes for Helen :laugh3: :clap1:

and going up! :shocked: not really shocked!

[MB.]

How anyone can sit through BB15 and BB16 every day of the summer for two consecutive years, acknowledge the awfulness of both and still put in the effort to support Helen Wood is just one of life's great mysteries

[Kazanne]

How anyone can sit through BB15 and BB16 every day of the summer for two consecutive years, acknowledge the awfulness of both and still put in the effort to support Helen Wood is just one of life's great mysteries

Those people wouldn't be here supporting her if an equal amount of Helen haters didn't put the effort in to keep rambling on about how 'awful' she is,we are just posting our opinions as you are.She imo is no worse than some others that have been in there,but as I said we all know why she is really hated.:wavey:

[joeysteele]

I want to clarify while I voted Helen rather than Aaron, that was only as to who was the worse winner between these 2.

Helen would get my vote over many other Channel 5 BB winners as not being the worse of 2 choices.

If this poll has real intentions as to who is the worst winner ever of a channel 5 BB series then in that case, my vote for Helen is incorrect as I would not consider either Helen or Aaron in any way bad winners or worse than many other winners,and indeed even most, of the past years on Channel 5.

[MB.]

Tbut as I said we all know why she is really hated.:wavey:

Yes, because she's an awful person, housemate and winner, and a ruiner of two series that were both pretty bad to begin with, if not arguably the whole BBUK franchise.

[Kazanne]

Yes, because she's an awful person, housemate and winner, and a ruiner of two series that were both pretty bad to begin with, if not arguably the whole BBUK franchise.

LOL she beat Ashleigh,thats the MAIN reason she is not liked by some,you don't have to dig very deep to come to that conclusion tbh.

[Jack_]

LOL she beat Ashleigh,thats the MAIN reason she is not liked by some,you don't have to dig very deep to come to that conclusion tbh.

If that were true then she wouldn't have been hated by some throughout the duration of BB15 before a winner was crowned. Come on, even your memory isn't that bad.

[Pete.]

LOL she beat Ashleigh,thats the MAIN reason she is not liked by some,you don't have to dig very deep to come to that conclusion tbh.
She's disliked by most because she bullied Ashleigh and Jale

[LukeB]

LOL she beat Ashleigh,thats the MAIN reason she is not liked by some,you don't have to dig very deep to come to that conclusion tbh.

but Helen was not liked since she called Jale Slugsworthy, nothing to do with Ashleigh.

[MB.]

If that were true then she wouldn't have been hated by some throughout the duration of BB15 before a winner was crowned. Come on, even your memory isn't that bad.

.

If you really think that the main reason Helen is disliked is because she won, then... wow.

[Kazanne]

If that were true then she wouldn't have been hated by some throughout the duration of BB15 before a winner was crowned. Come on, even your memory isn't that bad.

She'll always be hated by some whether she is nice or not,I have no doubt people hated her,but a lot imo hate her because she won their fave.

[Kazanne]

but Helen was not liked since she called Jale Slugsworthy, nothing to do with Ashleigh.

I disliked her then myself,thought she was horrible

[Robodog]

People seem to get super excited the more hate Helen gets? I mean really what sort of people do that? Helen has far more verbal and bile thrown at her, than she has ever given to anyone,so she gobbed off at Brian,Jale and Mathew,so what ? there's plenty gobbing off at her.

I'm loving you right now Kazanne

It's SO true what you are saying, yet people are refusing to see it. They just carry on being 100x more spiteful about her than she's ever been about anyone.

The hypocrisy is incredible.

[MB.]

She'll always be hated by some whether she is nice or not

I might detest her less if she ever was nice, I suppose.

[Kazanne]

I might detest her less if she ever was nice, I suppose.

Well of course she's nice,we aren't with her 24/7.are you trying to say she is constantly nasty:laugh: really, that IS clutching,she was nice a few times during her time in the house,dont you remember? of course you dont:joker:

[Macie Lightfoot]

Helen is and can be a very nice person,just some people don't like to see that because they 'hate' her so much,shame really,so many wasted emotions.

Helen is only nice to people in her group, which is entirely comprised of people who physically embody high school popularity.

She imo is no worse than some others that have been in there,but as I said we all know why she is really hated.:wavey:

Because she's a huge bitch and a hypocrite and she is so dedicated to defending the same patriarchy that made her spiteful and angry and robbed her of her young adult years?

I'm loving you right now Kazanne

It's SO true what you are saying, yet people are refusing to see it. They just carry on being 100x more spiteful about her than she's ever been about anyone.

The hypocrisy is incredible.

Helen's entire MO is social exclusion and nasty insults and public humiliation and the like. Do I think that if she walks around the house throwing out insults whenever she pleases to whoever she pleases, that she should expect some of it to bounce back at her in the exact same fashion? Absolutely.

[Kazanne]

I'm loving you right now Kazanne

It's SO true what you are saying, yet people are refusing to see it. They just carry on being 100x more spiteful about her than she's ever been about anyone.

The hypocrisy is incredible.

Tell me about it Robodog,all these perfect people,how come they are only on here?

[Pete.]

Well of course she's nice,we aren't with her 24/7.are you trying to say she is constantly nasty:laugh: really, that IS clutching,she was nice a few times during her time in the house,dont you remember? of course you dont:joker:

Astonishing

[Kazanne]

Astonishing

Why is that astonishing? you didn't see her comforting anyone then?

[Pete.]

Why is that astonishing? you didn't see her comforting anyone then?
It's funny you recognise she was only nice a few times and was nasty all the other times. IMO she was only friends with people who she was able to manipulate in her side as she showed with Marc this year

[Robodog]

She's disliked by most because she bullied Ashleigh and Jale

She said some horrible things about Jale but it wasn't bullying. She never bullied Ashleigh, they just didn't like each other. Plus their series ended in them as the top 2 and HUGGING each other, remember?

As for bullying - anything Helen did A YEAR AGO - was often gobby but not bullying.

The only actual bullying i have seen is in THIS season of BB where Helen has been on the RECEIVING END of constant spiteful and often very personal verbal abuse from Brian, Aisleyne, Nikki, the eviction crowd, BOTS audience/panelists and even psych 'experts', not to mention the online community w*nking themselves into a hate frenzy to the point of actually making death threats to Helen.

Meanwhile Helen is made to apologise for saying one comment in retalliation to the man standing over her for the third time that week, pointing and shouting abuse into her face whilst being physically restrained and looking like he wants to kill her. While Brian is applauded as some kind of hero for his physical and verbal intimidation of her.

And yet somehow 'it's ok' to still all keep treating Helen like this is it? All because of her comments about Jale and Matt LAST YEAR? Does that seem fair to you?

[Calderyon]

Well, Helen obviously.

I have not seen the other guy in action, but i trust that Hellen is the worst one.

[MB.]

Why is that astonishing? you didn't see her comforting anyone then?

Only if they were in her popular group, and not the ones that she outcast and belittled before acting like they were the ones in the wrong for making her sooo angreh!!!1!!!1!1!!!

But I'll leave it there because it isn't really worth debating with someone who goes to the effort of pretending that Helen's in any way a good person is it, however admirable that may be

[Robodog]

It's funny you recognise she was only nice a few times and was nasty all the other times. IMO she was only friends with people who she was able to manipulate in her side as she showed with Marc this year

She's nice loads of times. Chloe thought so too.

She's not just nice, she's quick witted, insightful, open minded, a loyal friend, good with advice and very sympathetic; she cried last year over Chris's depression story and she cried this year over Nick's insecurity. That shows a lot about her.

She's also very strong minded, independent and attractive. No wonder so many people hate her!

[Robodog]

Only if they were in her popular group, and not the ones that she outcast and belittled before acting like they were the ones in the wrong for making her sooo angreh!!!1!!!1!1!!!

But I'll leave it there because it isn't really worth debating with someone who goes to the effort of pretending that Helen's in any way a good person is it, however admirable that may be

Exactly the kind of closed-minded approach i've come to expect from the BB hate mob mentality.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Helen's only friends with people who physically embody high school cool. When she's not busy calling other women slags despite the fact that she got her spot on BB because Wayne Rooney paid her to **** him, she's justifying her own nastiness by foghorning about how everyone is TOO SENSITIVE even though she slandered Victor to a point where the show had a legal disclaimer because he said something like "stay away from that Helen." She claims to be honest even though her statements and observations do not have any reflection on the reality of any situation. She complains about other people lying even though her recollection of events is also filled with half-truths and completely misinterpretations of what actually happened. I do think she's incredibly tragic and obviously has huge daddy issues and whatnot, but go see a therapist, don't go on Big Brother. I don't want to be involved.

[Kazanne]

It's funny you recognise she was only nice a few times and was nasty all the other times. IMO she was only friends with people who she was able to manipulate in her side as she showed with Marc this year

I didn't say she was nasty all the other times,YOU said that,at other times she was like the rest just getting on with stuff,but if someone has it in for you ,you dont sit back like a wallflower you say your piece ,well you should and that is what she did, shw was a gobby sod but hell,rather that than some sly conniving git.

[MB.]

The "she says it to your face, that's a good thing!" school of thought is one of the many things slowly killing this already-clinically-dead show

[Daniel.]

The annoying "AARON IS BEST" trash has made me vote him as worse than Helen.

[susie q]

Didnt like either of them, but Helen was by far the worst.

[Macie Lightfoot]

The "she says it to your face, that's a good thing!" school of thought is one of the many things slowly killing this already-clinically-dead show

omfg yes, and the whole AT LEAST SHE'S BEING HONEST. Like, yes Helen is honest about her feelings, but she presents her feelings as ****ing fact even though every recollection of a house event is littered with half-truths and whole lies.

[Pete.]

She said some horrible things about Jale but it wasn't bullying. She never bullied Ashleigh, they just didn't like each other. Plus their series ended in them as the top 2 and HUGGING each other, remember?

As for bullying - anything Helen did A YEAR AGO - was often gobby but not bullying.

The only actual bullying i have seen is in THIS season of BB where Helen has been on the RECEIVING END of constant spiteful and often very personal verbal abuse from Brian, Aisleyne, Nikki, the eviction crowd, BOTS audience/panelists and even psych 'experts', not to mention the online community w*nking themselves into a hate frenzy to the point of actually making death threats to Helen.

Meanwhile Helen is made to apologise for saying one comment in retalliation to the man standing over her for the third time that week, pointing and shouting abuse into her face whilst being physically restrained and looking like he wants to kill her. While Brian is applauded as some kind of hero for his physical and verbal intimidation of her.

And yet somehow 'it's ok' to still all keep treating Helen like this is it? All because of her comments about Jale and Matt LAST YEAR? Does that seem fair to you?

No I'm pretty sure she was part of the bullying mentality that Poz was so frequently attacked for. Her treatment of Matthew was the most classic example of bullying I've seen on BBUK. Firstly she flew off the handle at one thing he said, screamed over the top of him when he was trying to defend himself, followed him into the garden, invaded his personal face while hurling threats at him and as she retreated back into the house she continued to hurl abuse at him 'pigeon chested' etc etc.

Her bully came out first, though, when she constantly attacked Danielle on her religion, most strikingly when she said that Danielle should '**** Jesus', calling her a 'fat bitch' and what not. She also attacked Jale on her appearance, referring to her as a slug. She also mimicked the Irish accent in a negative way which some people (not me) called racist.

So with all this negative fodder against Helen surely she could not lose more fans? Alas, on the first day she told Nikki to '**** off home'. The Brian and Helen situations were easily two sided and Brian never stooped as low as likening Helen to a bully and a rapist. She also falsely accused Victor of being a drug dealer and threatened violence on Aisleyne by saying she would 'spit in her face'.

I think this is why people think Helen is a little more than a gobby bitch

[Kazanne]

Only if they were in her popular group, and not the ones that she outcast and belittled before acting like they were the ones in the wrong for making her sooo angreh!!!1!!!1!1!!!

But I'll leave it there because it isn't really worth debating with someone who goes to the effort of pretending that Helen's in any way a good person is it, however admirable that may be

That's not true,she openly said she had been wrong about some people Harry and Jale being just two of them,that is one of the things I liked about her she had that ability to say she was wrong,something a lot of people refuse to do even though they should.Not arguing anymore anyway,I've had my say,and I still say she is one of the best Housemates Channel 5 have had.

[reece(:]

Helen's only friends with people who physically embody high school cool. When she's not busy calling other women slags despite the fact that she got her spot on BB because Wayne Rooney paid her to **** him, she's justifying her own nastiness by foghorning about how everyone is TOO SENSITIVE even though she slandered Victor to a point where the show had a legal disclaimer because he said something like "stay away from that Helen." She claims to be honest even though her statements and observations do not have any reflection on the reality of any situation. She complains about other people lying even though her recollection of events is also filled with half-truths and completely misinterpretations of what actually happened. I do think she's incredibly tragic and obviously has huge daddy issues and whatnot, but go see a therapist, don't go on Big Brother. I don't want to be involved.
MTE

CLOSE!

[Niamh.]

Helen obviously. Aaron was clearly the best C5 winner :love:

[Niamh.]

Great vote! However moderators seems not to be to happy about it....

Eh? Pretty sure almost all of the moderators liked aaron :shrug:

[MrWong]

I'm loving you right now Kazanne

It's SO true what you are saying, yet people are refusing to see it. They just carry on being 100x more spiteful about her than she's ever been about anyone.

The hypocrisy is incredible.

Can you quote something worse than when Helen called Chris a pedophile?

[Pete.]

That's not true,she openly said she had been wrong about some people Harry and Jale being just two of them,that is one of the things I liked about her she had that ability to say she was wrong,something a lot of people refuse to do even though they should.Not arguing anymore anyway,I've had my say,and I still say she is one of the best Housemates Channel 5 have had.
She said she was wrong about Jade too but happily nominated her

[Kazanne]

She said she was wrong about Jade too but happily nominated her

She's not a monster because she nominated Jade though is she?They have all nominated people we like.

[Videostar]

Worst channel5 winner? Aaron is still the BEST channel5 winner....by a long distance.

[Videostar]

Helen but both are awful and don't have a patch on Chloe :clap1:

Go on, give us one interesting "legal" fact about Chloe?

[Kazanne]

Can you quote something worse than when Helen called Chris a pedophile?

He did come across as really cringy with Ashleigh to some people,even people commented on it here.helen saw it 24/7,so who knows what we missed and Helen does not mince her words,Did she say he WAS a paedophile or he was acting like one?

[Pete.]

Go on, give us one interesting "legal" fact about Chloe?
She has £121,000

[Macie Lightfoot]

He did come across as really cringy with Ashleigh to some people,even people commented on it here.helen saw it 24/7,so who knows what we missed and Helen does not mince her words,Did she say he WAS a paedophile or he was acting like one?

Helen doesn't mince her words, but she presents her honest opinions as cold hard truths when they're anything but. Chris took a picture with a fan who wanted a picture with him and Helen and her gang were all harassing him on Twitter saying he's a paedophile.

[Headie]

Go on, give us one interesting "legal" fact about Chloe?

There's too many to just pick one :dance:

[Videostar]

She has £121,000

I said legal fact, she defrauded the GBP to get that cash. ;) :laugh:

[Videostar]

There's too many to just pick one :dance:

Oh I see. :smug: :spin:

[y.winter]

I don't think anyone can beat Helen in this. She's the garbage of society.

Still haven't watched BB12, but I have high hopes for Aaron.

[Ramsay]

The 16 people who voted Aaron :umm2: