Nicki vs Taylor beef

[reece(:]

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When the 2015 Video Music Award nominations were announced this morning, Nicki Minaj did alright, picking up nominations for Best Hip Hop Video and Best Female Video for “Anaconda,” along with a collaboration nod for “Bang Bang.” But the Pinkprint artist was miffed that she wasn’t nominated for Video of the Year, and may have unintentionally(?) started a dispute with Taylor Swift.

Minaj fired off a series of tweets (and numerous retweets from fans rallying to her defense) implying that she didn’t get the nod because she wasn’t the right “kind” of artist. “If your video celebrates women with very slim bodies, you will be nominated for vid of the year,” Minaj tweeted, along with a bunch of shady smile emojis. Swift, who gave Minaj the Swift Seal of Approval, was hurt by the perceived slight.

“I’ve done nothing but love & support you. It’s unlike you to pit women against each other [sic],” Swift tweeted in response. “Maybe one of the men took your slot..”

“U must not be reading my tweets,” Minaj replied. “Didn’t say a word about u. I love u just as much. But u should speak on this.”

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http://www.spin.com/2015/07/nicki-minaj-taylor-swift-twitter-tweet-mtv-vmas-race-women-nominations/

Messsss, get the promo girls.

[EspeonBB]

This is a mess

[Iceman]

Kim K West actually having tweet of the year about this.

[Pete.]

Nicki <3

Drag the scummy VMAs gal

[Iceman]

Nicki <3

Drag the scummy VMAs gal

We agree on something:suspect:

Is the apocalypse upon us?? :laugh:

[Pete.]

We agree on something:suspect:

Is the apocalypse upon us?? :laugh:
:laugh:

[EspeonBB]

Welp @ Nicki fuming on Twitter over a VMA nomination

I can see why Taylor thought Nicki was talking about her (especially with the "record breaking video") but she shouldn't have gotten involved either way. It's a mess all round.

[Shaun]

in all honesty Nicki doesn't deserve any nominations to do with the Pinkprint. Trash album.

[Moosething]

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[Brother Leon]

Anaconda is trash as is her whole Album. She should be happy enough she wins every damn Hip Hop category somehow.

[Mystic Mock]

This whole thing sounds staged to make these two seem more interesting.

But going by what's been said, Nicki basically sounds jealous that more attractive women are getting a nod for their songs, even if they're better songs.

[Mystic Mock]

This whole thing sounds staged to make these two seem more interesting.

But going by what's been said, Nicki basically sounds jealous that more attractive women are getting a nod for their songs, even if they're better songs.

[Firewire]

This whole thing sounds staged to make these two seem more interesting.

But going by what's been said, Nicki basically sounds jealous that more attractive women are getting a nod for their songs, even if they're better songs.

She's annoyed white girls keep getting nominated over black artists

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

That annoying Taylor swift butted in when Nicky wasn't even addressing her. I hope her munchkin face loses. Taylor wants to take ****s at Nicky but her and her annoying friends are the first to upload videos of themselves rapping and they're the first mimicking raps at awards.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Now instead of hearing out what she was trying to say they're going to conveniently ignore what she was saying and vilify her in this.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

She's annoyed white girls keep getting nominated over black artists

She should rap about it like j Cole. Why not

[Dominic]

Taylor :lovedup:

[armand.kay]

I don't understand why Taylor felt the wed to say anything.

[armand.kay]

However dispited beings huge fan of nicki her video's are not her strongest point and anaconda is the first in a long time that's not a Pile of **** so she really shouldn't be expecting awards. It's not like she had no nominations at all.

[armand.kay]

Also she really needs to not make this a race issue because it's not.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

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[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

However disputed beings huge fan of nicki her video's we not her strongest point and anaconda is the first in a long time that's not a Pile of **** so she really shouldn't be expecting awards. It's not like she had no nominations at all.

Why not when plenty of mediocre artists get nominated in this day and age. We really do have to be twice as good to get half init

[Liam-]

Lmao @ Nicki thinking she didn't get nominated because she's not stick thin or because she's not white, no, you're just **** love, hating on everyone else who does get nominated isn't a good look, up your game and maybe things will change.

[armand.kay]

Why not when plenty of mediocre artists get nominated in this day and age. We really do have to be twice as good to get half init

But 4 out of 5 of the nominated artists are black...

[Pete.]

That annoying Taylor swift butted in when Nicky wasn't even addressing her. I hope her munchkin face loses. Taylor wants to take ****s at Nicky but her and her annoying friends are the first to upload videos of themselves rapping and they're the first mimicking raps at awards.
Get ready for a Taylor diss track Blackprint?

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Get ready for a Taylor diss track Blackprint?

Taylor has sucked half the industries dicks and half of her friends are industry supremacists .Nicky will probably only diss Taylor when she's ready to commit career suicide. Katy Perry messed with industry princess and Taylor got all her gang against Katy in bad blood. Biatch



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[armand.kay]

Lol so Beyoncé a black curvy artist is also nominated... Whats Nicki's point again?

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Lol so Beyoncé a black curvy artist is also nominated... Whats Nicki's point again?

Meh tolerating Beyoncé and Rihanna is always people's response. There's more than them 2 you know :D

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Because she's tswizzle

[Livia]

But 4 out of 5 of the nominated artists are black...

Shhhhhhh... that doesn't fit this agenda.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

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Yeah tswizzle where is that faux feminism now?

[goldensunlight]

Taylor keeping it classy. Nicki not, as usual.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Taylor keeping it classy. Nicki not, as usual.

It wasn't classy to butt in into someone's statement and make it all about you, then insulting her by saying you can come up "when I win" I don't see any class. And writing about your ex partners and ex friends for the world to hear is not classy.

[armand.kay]

Taylor keeping it classy. Nicki not, as usual.

If she had kept it classy she wouldn't of been involved in all this.

[Liam-]

It wasn't classy to butt in into someone's statement and make it all about you, then insulting her by saying you can come up "when I win" I don't see any class. And writing about your ex partners and ex friends for the world to hear is not classy.

'If I win' actually.

[Pete.]

Imo Nicki was attacking the VMAs fairly for bias (I mean Beyoncé released 7/11 in 2013 - it's 2015) and Taylor stuck her oar in looking for more attention - she's annoying me now

[EspeonBB]

7/11 was released in 2014 sis

I agree Taylor shouldn't have gotten involved. Although Nicki is a mess as well, dragging the VMAs for not nominating her for VOTY when she received noms for several other categories and then trying to bring a serious issue such as racism into it (despite the fact Bey and Kendrick and nominated for VOTY). Just a mess all around tbh.

[Pete.]

7/11 was released in 2014 sis

I agree Taylor shouldn't have gotten involved. Although Nicki is a mess as well, dragging the VMAs for not nominating her for VOTY when she received noms for several other categories and then trying to bring a serious issue such as racism into it (despite the fact Bey and Kendrick and nominated for VOTY). Just a mess all around tbh.
But the video was released in 2013 :/

[Saph]

I get Nicki's point but its kinda sad of her to make a big deal out of not getting a nomination..

[EspeonBB]

But the video was released in 2013 :/

7/11 was released from the BEYONCE re-release (the Platinum edition or whatever it was called), which was released in late 2014 iirc

[Pete.]

7/11 was released from the BEYONCE re-release (the Platinum edition or whatever it was called), which was released in late 2014 iirc
Oh lol I don't have a problem with it then

[Saph]

please dont tell me 7/11 was nominated ... MESS

[Saph]

tbh the real question is where is Kween Khia's nomination for best album for Love Locs?

[Pete.]

Omg

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[Pete.]

please dont tell me 7/11 was nominated ... MESS
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=285439

[Saph]

...wait so Nicki WAS nominated for best female video?? shes just mad that she wasnt nominated for best overall video?

girl..

[EspeonBB]

Screaming @ Nicki bringing Tidal vs. Spotify into it :joker: (btw Taylor was dragged for taking her music off Spotify so I don't get what Nicki's trying to do with that tweet)

Can't wait for the shady close-ups of Nicki and Taylor when the other wins an award at the VMAs

[Pete.]

Screaming @ Nicki bringing Tidal vs. Spotify into it :joker: (btw Taylor was dragged for taking her music off Spotify so I don't get what Nicki's trying to do with that tweet)

Can't wait for the shady close-ups of Nicki and Taylor when the other wins an award at the VMAs
Taylor took music off spotify and apple music for attention lmao

[Pete.]

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[EspeonBB]

Taylor took music off spotify and apple music for attention lmao

I think it was more for money reasons (especially with Spotify) but yeah she deserves to be dragged for that, not here for greed :nono:

[EspeonBB]

Ciara should be complaining for the VMAs snubbing her tbh. The "I Bet" video >>>

[Pete.]

Ciara should be complaining for the VMAs snubbing her tbh. The "I Bet" video >>>
Justice 4 Pretty Girls? http://exhalecdn.breatheheavy.com/public/style_emoticons/default/gimmemoar.gif

[Pete.]

The drama continues:

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[armand.kay]

Perez is so thirsty to be involved.

[Saph]

not perez

[Livia]

Nicki Minage's new Sour Grapes diet.

[Pete.]

Screaming at the fumes

http://www.breatheheavy.com/exhale/index.php?/topic/675820-not-the-taylor-stans-trying-to-defend-her-on-the-britney-spears-forum/

[EspeonBB]

Why is Pigrez trying to get involved? Stay out of it http://exhalecdn.breatheheavy.com/public/style_emoticons/default/beynah.gif

[armand.kay]

why was orihgu cut </3 x

[EspeonBB]

Justice 4 Pretty Girls? http://exhalecdn.breatheheavy.com/public/style_emoticons/default/gimmemoar.gif

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For real though, Iggy is award show poison now. Pretty Gurls was never gonna get nominated

[Ninastar]

Lmao @ Nicki thinking she didn't get nominated because she's not stick thin or because she's not white, no, you're just **** love, hating on everyone else who does get nominated isn't a good look, up your game and maybe things will change.

Preach.

There are people who will try and bring race into literally anything. People even use it in their favour sometimes. I understand that racism is an issue in many parts of the world, but Nicki needs to get off her high horse and realise that a song literally about butts isn't going to get you anywhere.

[armand.kay]

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For real though, Iggy is award show poison now. Pretty Gurls was never gonna get nominated

If knee had Nicki instead it would of got nominated and all this dramz would of been avoided.

[Pete.]

Kim K West actually having tweet of the year about this.
Confirmed

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[Pete.]

Preach.

There are people who will try and bring race into literally anything. People even use it in their favour sometimes. I understand that racism is an issue in many parts of the world, but Nicki needs to get off her high horse and realise that a song literally about butts isn't going to get you anywhere.
Tbf if Taylor didn't call everyone in her phonebook to break Nicki's YT record then Anaconda would have been nominated above Bad Blood

[Pete.]

If knee had Nicki it would of got nominated and instead all this dramz would of been avoided.
FFS knee

[armand.kay]

me

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[Shaun]

it's just super embarrassing on Nicki's part. She's basically coming across as Azealia II in all of this. "I'm not liked enough bc I'm black"

no it's bc you haven't done anything actually good in 3 years

[EspeonBB]

If knee had Nicki instead it would of got nominated and all this dramz would of been avoided.

Why did Knee's team even want Iggy on Pretty Gurls. Iggy hasn't had a hit since summer 2014, whilst Nicki is still relevant
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[Pete.]

Why did Knee's team even want Iggy on Pretty Gurls. Iggy hasn't had a hit since summer 2014, whilst Nicki is still relevant
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Because Iggy was thirsty for a collab and then forced Knee to do promo but she refused lmao

[Ninastar]

it's just super embarrassing on Nicki's part. She's basically coming across as Azealia II in all of this. "I'm not liked enough bc I'm black"

no it's bc you haven't done anything actually good in 3 years

exactly. thank you

and this is coming from someone who actually kinda likes Nicki

[Brother Leon]

Kendrick,Beyonce and Bruno Mars must be white then.....Hopefully her being a baby means She wins nothing lol

[EspeonBB]

Because Iggy was thirsty for a collab and then forced Knee to do promo but she refused lmao

Why iss Knee so against doing promo http://exhalecdn.breatheheavy.com/public/style_emoticons/default/britdrown.gif

[Dominic]

BUY 1989 on iTunes :lovedup:

[Z]

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Tidal is an insane vanity project and Nicki Minaj's commercially successful music is all vapid trash. I'd get her point if she was churning out meaningful, interesting music but sampling Baby Got Back and giving it a softcore porn music video filled with bright colours isn't deserving of any kind of recognition. Prat.

[Z]

Like I find Taylor Swift's public persona highly irritating but there's no denying she writes great songs and that the video for Blank Space is an incredible piece of viewing. To bring race into it where it's completely irrelevant is really demeaning in my opinion.

[andybigbro]

Nicki just seems sour

[Z]

Nicki just seems sour

Yeah like her ego's been taken down a few pegs so she's pretending to be mad about something more justifiable to the public than just "I think I'm great but not everyone else does!"

[Pete.]

Why iss Knee so against doing promo http://exhalecdn.breatheheavy.com/public/style_emoticons/default/britdrown.gif
She's a mum now or something

[Pete.]

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She's coming for all our faves now

[armand.kay]

can someone remove her from twitter pls x

[EspeonBB]

Lmao she needs to shut up about this now. It's only a VMA nomination (and it's not as if she got completely snubbed)

[Brother Leon]

The Drake and Meek Mill beef is ten times more interesting, because it will actually most likely result in some music. Nikki and Meek about to hold that Double L as a couple :laugh:

[reece(:]

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She's coming for all our faves now
Her meltdown era is upon us

[Pete.]

Her meltdown era is upon us
I'm ready for another mixtape

[Drew.]

Nicki is deluded & both the song and music video are awful and Taylor comes in with the most cringeworthy & immature reply i've ever seen

[reece(:]

Lil Kim could have a field day with ha

[Pete.]

Lil Kim could have a field day with ha
Omg what's she saying

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

http://www.theguardian.com/music/2015/jul/22/nicki-minaj-debate-bigger-than-taylor-swifts-ego

The Nicki Minaj debate is bigger than Taylor Swift's ego


When Minaj tweeted about black artists being sidelined by the music industry, it sparked an online spat with Taylor Swift. Didn’t the misjudged global reaction rather prove her point?

“If I was a different ‘kind’ of artist, Anaconda would be nominated for best choreo and vid of the year”. And there, in a single tweet on Tuesday, rapper Nicki Minaj kicked off a conversation about race, feminism, and the music industry that might have been ignored had it not been derailed by the planet’s biggest pop star, Taylor Swift.


“When the ‘other’ girls drop a video that breaks records and impacts culture they get that nomination,” wrote Minaj. Her point is one about the unspoken bias and sometimes out-and-out racism of an industry that has profited from the talent of black artists without giving them their dues. Or, at the very least, a trophy of an astronaut from MTV.

Swift, possibly unable to imagine a debate bigger than her or her ego, took instant personal offence and tweeted, in po-faced hurt: “@NICKIMINAJ I’ve done nothing but love & support you. It’s unlike you to pit women against each other. Maybe one of the men took your slot.”


Minaj responded: “‘Huh? U must not be reading my tweets. Didn’t say a word about u. I love u just as much. But u should speak on this @taylorswift13.” And she should. Minaj invited Swift to wield her mighty power to call out the music industry – or even just MTV – for its racial bias, unconscious or otherwise. Because, of course, Swift is the one-woman saviour of pop. Last month, she wrote an open letter complaining about Apple’s new music streaming service refusing to pay artists for the first three months. The world’s biggest tech brand buckled in 24 hours.

Yet, instead of listening to Minaj, her supposed friend and collaborator, Swift responded: “@NICKIMINAJ If I win, please come up with me!! You’re invited to any stage I’m ever on.” A tweet that, at best, could be read as patronising and ignorant; at worst, vacuous and self-absorbed.


Watch Nicki Minaj’s video for Anaconda.
The broader point Minaj is making is clear: throughout music history, black women aren’t recognised in the popular music canon in the same way their white counterparts are. As Minaj tweeted: “If your video celebrates women with very slim bodies, you will be nominated for vid of the year … I’m not always confident. Just tired. Black women influence pop culture so much but are rarely rewarded for it.”

Yet without Swift making the story about her, Minaj’s tweets would likely have been talked about by sections of Twitter, music journalists and fans, before everyone shrugged and moved on. The wider reporting of the story has since twisted what is a valid conversation – about what makes a white artist outstanding, and why a black artist isn’t allowed to compete on the same terms. The coverage has reduced the debate to a catfight between two massive female stars, where Swift is the winner, taking down another woman who needs to know her place. It is insidious and crass.


Taylor Swift's response to Nicki Minaj was faux-feminist and tone deaf
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In this retelling, Minaj is archetyped as the angry black woman, while Swift is bizarrely cast as the feminist hero. Pictures – deliberately selected, remember – to illustrate the story online by Glamour magazine, the Daily Mail, and Entertainment Weekly (some of them since deleted) show Minaj pulling faces or looking daft, or simply focus on her bum. The underlying message is that she’s wacky, unhinged and clearly the hyper-sensitive loser here. Ones of Swift, by comparison, show her looking soft, delicate and “unthreatening” – the victim under attack.

It didn’t stop at picture editing. Consider the bias on show when Glamour tweeted its take: “@taylorswift13 shut down @NICKIMINAJ on Twitter and it was WONDERFUL.” A sentence that embodies everything wrong with white feminism’s refusal to acknowledge, let alone understand, that unless “the struggle” in 2015 is intersectional (you know, taking in priorities that aren’t just about white women in the west serving white women in the west), it is irrelevant. To no credit, Glamour later retweeted the story as: “@taylorswift13 and @NICKIMINAJ embroiled in Twitter row.”


Watch Taylor Swift’s video for Bad Blood.
Anaconda was a video brilliantly calculated to be parodied and memed, blogged and talked about endlessly on its release last year. The fact that it was watched 19.6m times in 24 hours and smashed records to become the most watched video ever on Vevo was a bonus. As Minaj pointed out: ‘U couldn’t go on social media w/o seeing ppl doing the cover art, choreo, outfits for Halloween ... and impact like that and no [Video of the Year] nomination?”

Swift’s video for Bad Blood was pitched to have the same effect: in it, she gathers a clique of her bezzies, including Lena Dunham, Cara Delevingne and Ellie Goulding, and stomps about in PVC, sexily pouting and kickboxing the girl (widely assumed to represent Katy Perry) who wronged her. On its debut in May, the video broke Minaj’s record and picked up more than 20m views in 24 hours; MTV has shortlisted it seven times in the VMAs, including for best video, art direction and director of the year. Anaconda is up for best hip-hop and best female video.


Taylor Swift and Nicki Minaj trade Twitter barbs over VMA nominations
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As blogger oneofthosefaces put it: “Miley spent the whole of 2013 building an adult career on the back of strapping on a fake booty and twerking her way to stratospheric success. If you rundown Nicki’s tweets and retweets, she was drawing parallels, not suggesting any of this year’s nominees had taken her spot. Her argument was specifically about the difference in the way white bodies and black bodies are portrayed. It’s an argument she’s made before, when she compared ‘acceptable’ white girls in bikinis to her ‘unacceptable’ Anaconda cover art.”

To put it another way: Minaj’s arse is considered too sexual, too crude, too shockingly unpalatable when she deliberately and provocatively, puts it on show, whereas the same pose struck by white models is taken as sexy, friendly and OK.

At the time of writing, “Nicky Minaj + Taylor Swift + VMA” turns up 2.8m results on Google News. Minaj, apparently unfazed by the column inches mounting, later contradicted headlines stating that she had taken “a jab” at Swift: “Nothing I said had to do with Taylor. So what jabs? White media and their tactics. So sad. That’s what they want.”

— NICKI MINAJ (@NICKIMINAJ)
July 21, 2015
Nothing I said had to do with Taylor. So what jabs? White media and their tactics. So sad. That's what they want. https://t.co/AfcwoyDvpg

For its part, the response from “white media” has been inevitably prickly and sensitive about being called out by Minaj; as if being challenged on racial bias is worse than that bias existing in the first place. It’s a bizarre state of affairs, perfectly summed up by Taylor Swift’s final response to the matter: closing the conversation down by unfollowing Nicky Minaj on Twitter.






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[Pete.]

Finally

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[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Preach.

There are people who will try and bring race into literally anything. People even use it in their favour sometimes. I understand that racism is an issue in many parts of the world, but Nicki needs to get off her high horse and realise that a song literally about butts isn't going to get you anywhere.

But a song about a wrecking ball and licking it will. Seeeennnnn

[Brother Leon]

But a song about a wrecking ball and licking it will. Seeeennnnn

It helps that Wrecking Ball is the far better Video and Song...

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

It helps that Wrecking Ball is the far better Video and Song...

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[Ninastar]

But a song about a wrecking ball and licking it will. Seeeennnnn

what does miley have to do with this?

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

what does miley have to do with this?

Ignore Taylor Swift's self involved replies and read what Nicky was saying beforehand.

[Ninastar]

Ignore Taylor Swift's self involved replies and read what Nicky was saying beforehand.

but she's clearly having a go at Taylor

[Livia]

but she's clearly having a go at Taylor

Clearly. Shame she doesn't have the front to be honest about her whiney comments.

[Pete.]

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She's coming for all our faves now

what does miley have to do with this?

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[Livia]

Ignore Taylor Swift's self involved replies and read what Nicky was saying beforehand.

You don't find Nicki's comments at all self-involved? Interesting.

[Pete.]

but she's clearly having a go at Taylor
Taylor took offence herself looking for new inspiration for a diss track

[Ninastar]

Clearly. Shame she doesn't have the front to be honest about her whiney comments.

Almost like she's playing the race card because she has nothing else to say. Strange, isn't it?

[Livia]

Almost like she's playing the race card because she has nothing else to say. Strange, isn't it?

Sour grapes, that's all. Do better next time Nicki and you might not have anything to whine about.

[Livia]

Taylor took offence herself looking for new inspiration for a diss track

If Taylor Swift was whining about black girls, this would be an entirely different debate. But Nicki is black, so she can use that to her advantage and everyone thinks its a crusade. It's ridiculous.

[Ninastar]

Sour grapes, that's all. Do better next time Nicki and you might not have anything to whine about.

Exactly. And I like Nicki more than Taylor. I have like 60 nicki songs on my iphone and 0 taylor songs. I just hate when people make something about race when it doesn't need to be. If Nicki was talking about how little black women do well in Hollywood, I'd totally agree and support her. But this time, Miley/Taylor/whoever she's throwing shade at have done a better job and that has nothing to do with skin colour.

[Livia]

Exactly. And I like Nicki more than Taylor. I have like 60 nicki songs on my iphone and 0 taylor songs. I just hate when people make something about race when it doesn't need to be. If Nicki was talking about how little black women do well in Hollywood, I'd totally agree and support her. But this time, Miley/Taylor/whoever she's throwing shade at have done a better job and that has nothing to do with skin colour.

I'm not a fan of either of them. Totally agree with you though.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

If Taylor Swift was whining about black girls, this would be an entirely different debate. But Nicki is black, so she can use that to her advantage and everyone thinks its a crusade. It's ridiculous.

Well when media is "SHOCKED AND OUTRAGED" At your anaconda video but praise jlo and iggy jiggling their butts and Miley writhing naked on a wrecking ball you're going to rant for the double standards.

[Amy Jade]

Well when media is "SHOCKED AND OUTRAGED" At your anaconda video but praise jlo and iggy jiggling their butts and Miley writhing naked on a wrecking ball you're going to rant for the double standards.

Anaconda barely made a ripple compared to the outrage at Wrecking Ball and Miley twerking with that blurred lines dude (Barry?) :shrug:

[Ninastar]

Well when media is "SHOCKED AND OUTRAGED" At your anaconda video but praise jlo and iggy jiggling their butts and Miley writhing naked on a wrecking ball you're going to rant for the double standards.

Media was disgusted with Miley and have treated her like ****e for the past few years. You're right about Jlo, but I have no idea who iggy is.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Media was disgusted with Miley and have treated her like ****e for the past few years. You're right about Jlo, but I have no idea who iggy is.

White oppression rooted so deep within y'all you don't realize y'all doing it. You cry?? Well we can cry louder and collect our rewards and pats on the back while doing so.:nono::nono:

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[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Classic steps of oppression . Piers Morgan

-Act like the fairer skinned one is the victim "I have every sympathy with Taylor, who did absolutely nothing wrong," said Morgan. "And I have no sympathy with Nicki Minaj, who emerges as a whiny brat that just doesn’t like losing." Nevermind noone was actually talking to tswizzzle and the message Nicky was trying to convey was bigger than tswizzle. :shrug:

-Bring no value to what they're trying to say but pointing out there are other blacks that are tolerated so her argument is invalid "Her charges of racism and big-bodyism are frankly laughable when you consider that three of the five nominations for Video of the Year are black artists" Yeah there are KK members that tolerate one black :shrug:

-How about talking about your feaux outrage and Taylor swift's cheap piece of feaux feminism? :shrug: "He said that while she is talented, playing the "race card" is a "cheap piece of faux outrage deliberately designed to stir up unnecessary racial tension where it shouldn’t exist."

[Livia]

White oppression rooted so deep within y'all you don't realize y'all doing it. You cry?? Well we can cry louder and collect our rewards and pats on the back while doing so.:nono::nono:


I'm not sure you fully understand how offensive that is.

[Ninastar]

I'm not sure you fully understand how offensive that is.

was just about to say the same... I like you and everything, Cece, but it almost seems like you're judging us based on our skin colour :/

I'm a massive lesbian. (duh) I have to sit and listen to people (and sometimes my own family) talk about how disgusting/gross/unnatural it is to be gay. Please don't tell me I don't understand 'oppression' and don't even think acting like I'm privileged because of my skin colour. Racism happens everywhere. Do you live in America? Have you been to America? In some places, black people are even worse than white people. When I was at school, this girl told me not to sit next to her because I was white. I told the teacher and she did nothing. If it had been the other way around, I would have been expelled. To think that racism exists towards people of ANY colour makes me feel sick.

I understand why you're upset. Seriously, I do. But Nicki is fighting a silly battle here. It's nothing to do with skin colour. It's to do with talent. If this had been a few years ago, I'd totally agree with you. But Nicki has been so **** recently.

Sorry if this seems harsh, but I don't like people judging me when they don't know me at all. I love and hate everyone equally. My first ever kiss was a black girl. I look at and judge people for how they act and what they say, not how they look.

[Pete.]

The 'angry black gal vs nice white gal' stereotype continues

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[Amy Jade]

was just about to say the same... I like you and everything, Cece, but it almost seems like you're judging us based on our skin colour :/

I'm a massive lesbian. (duh) I have to sit and listen to people (and sometimes my own family) talk about how disgusting/gross/unnatural it is to be gay. Please don't tell me I don't understand 'oppression' and don't even think acting like I'm privileged because of my skin colour. Racism happens everywhere. Do you live in America? Have you been to America? In some places, black people are even worse than white people. When I was at school, this girl told me not to sit next to her because I was white. I told the teacher and she did nothing. If it had been the other way around, I would have been expelled. To think that racism exists towards people of ANY colour makes me feel sick.

I understand why you're upset. Seriously, I do. But Nicki is fighting a silly battle here. It's nothing to do with skin colour. It's to do with talent. If this had been a few years ago, I'd totally agree with you. But Nicki has been so **** recently.

Sorry if this seems harsh, but I don't like people judging me when they don't know me at all. I love and hate everyone equally. My first ever kiss was a black girl. I look at and judge people for how they act and what they say, not how they look.
Such a heartfelt post, mucho respect Caitlyn.

[Ninastar]

Such a heartfelt post, mucho respect Caitlyn.

lol, thank you I guess. I just hate this whole concept of 'privilege' and 'oppression', because it seems to create this hierarchy where some people think they are better than others and should be treated differently.

[Shaun]

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mature...

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

was just about to say the same... I like you and everything, Cece, but it almost seems like you're judging us based on our skin colour :/

I'm a massive lesbian. (duh) I have to sit and listen to people (and sometimes my own family) talk about how disgusting/gross/unnatural it is to be gay. Please don't tell me I don't understand 'oppression' and don't even think acting like I'm privileged because of my skin colour. Racism happens everywhere. Do you live in America? Have you been to America? In some places, black people are even worse than white people. When I was at school, this girl told me not to sit next to her because I was white. I told the teacher and she did nothing. If it had been the other way around, I would have been expelled. To think that racism exists towards people of ANY colour makes me feel sick.

I understand why you're upset. Seriously, I do. But Nicki is fighting a silly battle here. It's nothing to do with skin colour. It's to do with talent. If this had been a few years ago, I'd totally agree with you. But Nicki has been so **** recently.

Sorry if this seems harsh, but I don't like people judging me when they don't know me at all. I love and hate everyone equally. My first ever kiss was a black girl. I look at and judge people for how they act and what they say, not how they look.


"I'm a massive lesbian. (duh) I have to sit and listen to people (and sometimes my own family) talk about how disgusting/gross/unnatural it is to be gay. "

I understand that. But when same sex marriage was legalized in America, everyone celebrated "Love wins". Organizations changed their colours, countless tweeted their support and we didn't stop hearing about it. When we talk about black lives matter the response is either silence or "ALL LIVES MATTER" (which is true that all loves matter but that is not the point). We're not allowed to voice our opinions that make the other race uncomfortable but that could help things progress.

"Racism happens everywhere. Do you live in America? Have you been to America?" Cousins and nieces in South Carolina. I hear enough of it.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

lol, thank you I guess. I just hate this whole concept of 'privilege' and 'oppression', because it seems to create this hierarchy where some people think they are better than others and should be treated differently.

But privilege and oppression does exist. There's a video of White privilege going around where some white kids are saying they get a sense that things belong to them.

[Pete.]

Racism is still rife look at BB15 USA

[EspeonBB]

Obviously racism still exists and white privilege is a huge problem, not only in the U.S. but also in Europe, but Nicki not getting nominated for an award (where several black artists were nominated) is not a case of racism. I don't get why she and several people are trivializing a very serious issue

[Liam-]

Obviously racism still exists and white privilege is a huge problem, not only in the U.S. but also in Europe, but Nicki not getting nominated for an award (where several black artists were nominated) is not a case of racism. I don't get why she and several people are trivializing a very serious issue

It's easier to do that than admit that their fave or said person herself is doing ****.

[EspeonBB]

Katy has tweeted about the beef..

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[Pete.]

Katy has tweeted about the beef..

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Drag ha!

[Smithy]

This is all just really embarrassing

[armand.kay]

Obviously racism still exists and white privilege is a huge problem, not only in the U.S. but also in Europe, but Nicki not getting nominated for an award (where several black artists were nominated) is not a case of racism. I don't get why she and several people are trivializing a very serious issue

This Taylor was not nominated because she is skinny and white her music video is simply just better the anaconda video is basic nicki needs to take several seats.

[armand.kay]

Nicki should be pressed about bey's tesco value video getting nominated instead.

[Pete.]

This Taylor was not nominated because she is skinny and white her music video is simply just better the anaconda video is basic nicki needs to take several seats.
Anaconda would have been nominated for VOTY if Taylor did not break her record tho

[armand.kay]

Anaconda would have been nominated for VOTY if Taylor did not break her record tho

Lol more evidence to support the fact that the bad blood vid is just better.

[Pete.]

Lol more evidence to support the fact that the bad blood vid is just better.
But Nicki released Anaconda off her own back and it got 20 million in 24 hours whereas Taylor had to call around 10 of her famous friends to put in the video, use the collab version of Bad Blood and premiere the video at the Billboard Music Awards of course it was going to smash

[Shaun]

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[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Lol more evidence to support the fact that the bad blood vid is just better.

I don't think she should be rewarded for plagiarising.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

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[Moosething]

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[armand.kay]

But Nicki released Anaconda off her own back and it got 20 million in 24 hours whereas Taylor had to call around 10 of her famous friends to put in the video, use the collab version of Bad Blood and premiere the video at the Billboard Music Awards of course it was going to smash

The video is still better tho. I love nicki and I would take her music over Taylor any day but I'm not gonna sit and lie to myself by saying the anaconda video is better than bad blood.

[Moosething]

They are both equally trash and neither are worth any award

[Ninastar]

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im sorry, but you just cant compare things like this.

[Mystic Mock]

She's annoyed white girls keep getting nominated over black artists

She was talking about how artists like Taylor Swift are only beating her because she's slimmer than her (Nicki Minaj) I've not really heard much reference of race being brought into it here.

[armand.kay]

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I honestly don't get how race is relevant at all for Nicki not being nominated for an award where 3/4 of the nominees are black... Not everything is a race row and nicki is being pathetic by turning bitter rants into some sort of stance against white privilege.

[Pete.]

I don't think she should be rewarded for plagiarising.
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[Brother Leon]

What I want to know is how Bad Blood is nominated vor Video Of The Year, but not Female video...logically doesn't make sense lol

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

im sorry, but you just cant compare things like this.

Of course not, white bro/sis :wink:

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

I honestly don't get how race is relevant at all for Nicki not being nominated for an award where 3/4 of the nominees are black... Not everything is a race row and nicki is being pathetic by turning bitter rants into some sort of stance against white privilege.

Is kendrick really D ONE that's going to win against Ed Sheeran or industry princess? Maybe they just nominated him because he was featured in bad blood too. The other songs are featuring black artists they're not the main artists in the songs. Beyoncé and Rihanna are white peoples go to black girls. Is that re-released song really going to win?
Read Marie Claire piece for overall message of what Nicky was saying. They did a good job.

[Ninastar]

Of course not, white bro/sis :wink:

im sorry but if any of us treated you like this, you'd be calling us racist :/

[Saph]

Ithinkiloveyoutoo you're embarrassing yourself...

as is Nicki right now

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

im sorry but if any of us treated you like this, you'd be calling us racist :/

What is the problem? :shrug:

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Ithinkiloveyoutoo you're embarrassing yourself...

as is Nicki right now

Yeah I know, just a black girl vs the world, expressing her opinion.

[Iceman]

Is kendrick really D ONE that's going to win against Ed Sheeran or industry princess? Maybe they just nominated him because he was featured in bad blood too. The other songs are featuring black artists they're not the main artists in the songs. Beyoncé and Rihanna are white peoples go to black girls. Is that re-released song really going to win?
Read Marie Claire piece for overall message of what Nicky was saying. They did a good job.

What are you even on about saying Rihanna and Beyoncé being white peoples go to black girls. You're trying to create an issue where there is none.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

What are you even on about saying Rihanna and Beyoncé being white peoples go to black girls. You're trying to create an issue where there is none.

Just look at previous years nominees list. Who are the 2 most obvious women of colour in the list if not the only women of color? You guessed it Beyone and Rihanna. It's like the whole other world of black females don't exist. :shrug:

[Ninastar]

What is the problem? :shrug:

you're calling me out for my skin colour... I've done absolutely nothing wrong to you or black people

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

you're calling me out for my skin colour... I've done absolutely nothing wrong to you or black people

I said white bro/sis. Are you not white?

So should I not be offended that you deemed slavery less than other human terrorism acts? Forget Titanic, that was an accident.

Let's just end it there, anyways.

[Saph]

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[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

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Nah you're a mess Saffron.

[Livia]

I said white bro/sis. Are you not white?

So should I not be offended that you deemed slavery less than other human terrorism acts? Forget Titanic, that was an accident.

Let's just end it there, anyways.

You were never a slave, and yet here you are making yourself a victim. You class ALL white people as oppressors and again you're the victim. Your comments are actually racist, did you know that? Or do you think only black people can be victims of racism?

My people suffered terribly in concentration camps in WW2, in fact they've been victimised and persecuted for centuries and they still are. Does that colour my judgement of Germans, or of Arabs, or of anyone? No. Knock the chip off your shoulder and maybe you'll understand the vast majority of white people aren't your enemy.

[Ninastar]

Slay ha Livia. Thank you so much, I couldn't even put what I wanted to say into words.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

You were never a slave, and yet here you are making yourself a victim. You class ALL white people as oppressors and again you're the victim. Your comments are actually racist, did you know that? Or do you think only black people can be victims of racism?

My people suffered terribly in concentration camps in WW2, in fact they've been victimised and persecuted for centuries and they still are. Does that colour my judgement of Germans, or of Arabs, or of anyone? No. Knock the chip off your shoulder and maybe you'll understand the vast majority of white people aren't your enemy.

"You were never a slave, and yet here you are making yourself a victim" Slavery is apparently over but is the slave mentality gone? Are blacks in society still not being preferred by a vast majority based on how light they are? (based on one of the slave owners separating dark blacks from light blacks saying if you separate them we'll always own them), Did 9 people not get shot for being black? Do blacks still not get called *******? Does stormfront not exist? Do I still not get sneered at when I pass an all white neighbourhood? Did someone not hold his friend back so I can pass first and sneer and whisper like I was some disease? Did my dad not get let go in Luxembourg in favor of a white doctor? Did my sister not suffer racism in Luxembourg? The list is endless. Just because racists can't tie us by our feet in the back of their vans and drag us for miles to our deaths anymore (1980's), or lynch us and hang us on trees and not face jail time doesn't mean racism is over. Slavery was one part of it and the repercussions are still there.

"You class ALL white people as oppressors and again you're the victim." I didn't use to. My exes were white, friends are white, but the older I get the more I see of the oppressive behaviours, but still no not ALL whites are oppressors, even though some don't realise they're doing it.

" Or do you think only black people can be victims of racism?" No but because the white race is the more (I hate to use the word dominant) "in charge" race, their racism is more effective than when a black does it. Let me hear about a black cop shooting a white kid that just had skittles in his hand and he gets away with it for example? Nope was never going to happen.

"My people suffered terribly in concentration camps in WW2, in fact they've been victimised and persecuted for centuries and they still are. Does that colour my judgement of Germans, or of Arabs, or of anyone? No. Knock the chip off your shoulder and maybe you'll understand the vast majority of white people aren't your enemy" I understand that but your people own banks and Hollywood.



I agree to stop if everyone stops :bawling:

[Niamh.]

"You were never a slave, and yet here you are making yourself a victim" Slavery is apparently over but is the slave mentality gone? Are blacks in society still not being preferred by a vast majority based on how light they are? (based on one of the slave owners separating dark blacks from light blacks saying if you separate them we'll always own them), Did 9 people not get shot for being black? Do blacks still not get called *******? Does stormfront not exist? Do I still not get sneered at when I pass an all white neighbourhood? Did someone not hold his friend back so I can pass first and sneer and whisper like I was some disease? Did my dad not get let go in Luxembourg in favor of a white doctor? Did my sister not suffer racism in Luxembourg? The list is endless. Just because racists can't tie us by our feet in the back of their vans and drag us for miles to our deaths anymore (1980's), or lynch us and hang us on trees and not face jail time doesn't mean racism is over. Slavery was one part of it and the repercussions are still there.

"You class ALL white people as oppressors and again you're the victim." I didn't use to. My exes were white, friends are white, but the older I get the more I see of the oppressive behaviours, but still no not ALL whites are oppressors, even though some don't realise they're doing it.

" Or do you think only black people can be victims of racism?" No but because the white race is the more (I hate to use the word dominant) "in charge" race, their racism is more effective than when a black does it. Let me hear about a black cop shooting a white kid that just had skittles in his hand and he gets away with it for example? Nope was never going to happen.

"My people suffered terribly in concentration camps in WW2, in fact they've been victimised and persecuted for centuries and they still are. Does that colour my judgement of Germans, or of Arabs, or of anyone? No. Knock the chip off your shoulder and maybe you'll understand the vast majority of white people aren't your enemy" I understand that but your people own banks and Hollywood.



I agree to stop if everyone stops :bawling:

That's a very good point.

Anyway I think all this dialogue can only be a good thing in trying to understand where each person is coming from and move forward :love:

[Jessica.]

Irish people were enslaved too, lost their language and many aspects of culture, does that mean I can complain that Irish singers with crap videos deserve to be nominated? :joker:

In all honesty, this whole thing is just ridiculous, there is nothing original or interesting about Anaconda, I am surprised enough that it got ANY nominations. Embarrassed for all parties involved.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Irish people were enslaved too, lost their language and many aspects of culture, does that mean I can complain that Irish singers with crap videos deserve to be nominated? :joker:

In all honesty, this whole thing is just ridiculous, there is nothing original or interesting about Anaconda, I am surprised enough that it got ANY nominations. Embarrassed for all parties involved.

Tswizzle ethnicity- German, English, some Scottish, Irish, Northern Irish (Scots-Irish), Welsh, 1/16th Italian, as well as distant French, Swedish, Dutch, and Belgian (Walloon)


Ed Sheeran-Sheeran's paternal grandparents were Irish, from Maghera,

You're alright. :blush:

[Jessica.]

Tswizzle ethnicity- German, English, some Scottish, Irish, Northern Irish (Scots-Irish), Welsh, 1/16th Italian, as well as distant French, Swedish, Dutch, and Belgian (Walloon)


Ed Sheeran-Sheeran's paternal grandparents were Irish, from Maghera,

You're alright. :blush:
Nice try hun, disregard everything else I said. :joker:

[Ammi]

...just slightly off topic because I can't comment on the Nicki/Taylor thing but I know that CeeCee is very passionate in what she believes and the reasons for those beliefs and I think with good reasons as well in many cases..(although I don't know if this is one of them/that it's a racism thing...)...

...CeeCee recently posted some vids about Serena Williams..and yeah, the guy making the comments/racist but the worrying bit was the commentator's comment of....'oh, well I guess that's just sports, isn't it..'...really..?...so I guess the only way for others to understand what CeeCee is saying is to try to equate it to similar comments being made about others who may have prejudice shown against them...like homosexuals for instance and then it just being said...oh that's sport/or that's showbiz baby or whatever/no big deal, type thing....

...anyway, here's the vid which I found totally shocking so I don't understand CeeCee's passion with this and other things that she herself has experienced in her own life ....

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[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Nice try hun, disregard everything else I said. :joker:

To be fair the whole Ed Sheeran video is like he's auditioning for a future spot in Strictly come dancing. Not sure it's entertaining. :conf2: So you could say a crap Irish video was nominated :devil:

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

...just slightly off topic because I can't comment on the Nicki/Taylor thing but I know that CeeCee is very passionate in what she believes and the reasons for those beliefs and I think with good reasons as well in many cases..(although I don't know if this is one of them/that it's a racism thing...)...

...CeeCee recently posted some vids about Serena Williams..and yeah, the guy making the comments/racist but the worrying bit was the commentator's comment of....'oh, well I guess that's just sports, isn't it..'...really..?...so I guess the only way for others to understand what CeeCee is saying is to try to equate it to similar comments being made about others who may have prejudice shown against them...like homosexuals for instance and then it just being said...oh that's sport/or that's showbiz baby or whatever/no big deal, type thing....

...anyway, here's the vid which I found totally shocking so I don't understand CeeCee's passion with this and other things that she herself has experienced in her own life ....

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Aw ammi.:bawling: I love you :bawling:

[Ninastar]

...just slightly off topic because I can't comment on the Nicki/Taylor thing but I know that CeeCee is very passionate in what she believes and the reasons for those beliefs and I think with good reasons as well in many cases..(although I don't know if this is one of them/that it's a racism thing...)...

...CeeCee recently posted some vids about Serena Williams..and yeah, the guy making the comments/racist but the worrying bit was the commentator's comment of....'oh, well I guess that's just sports, isn't it..'...really..?...so I guess the only way for others to understand what CeeCee is saying is to try to equate it to similar comments being made about others who may have prejudice shown against them...like homosexuals for instance and then it just being said...oh that's sport/or that's showbiz baby or whatever/no big deal, type thing....

...anyway, here's the vid which I found totally shocking so I don't understand CeeCee's passion with this and other things that she herself has experienced in her own life ....

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I think most of us realise that racism happens in sport and other parts of the world, but that isn't what this thread is about. Other black people have agreed that this is a silly argument. There's absolutely no reason whatsoever to treat white people differently because of how some other white people act. That's just racist. I cannot stand when someone says that I believe something because I am 'white' or 'gay' or 'american' etc, etc. I am my own person. I'm not even a little bit racist. To say that I don't understand the severity of something is just plain insulting. Anyone can receive racist hate, but just because black people suffer more of it in the states, doesn't mean you can just insult white people because they havent ever been slaves.

If I had said a lot of the stuff that Cece has said today, but about black people instead, I'd have been banned. It's double standards and it's one of my biggest hates in the world. It's ridiculous.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

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Woot woot good girl. I hope she's apologizing because she means it and not because she was being called out on faux feminism and plagiarism.

[Marsh.]

So.... whilst you're all having a very valid debate over racism.... it was brought on by Nicki Minaj missing out on one nomination?

Please. What an attention seeking twat she is.

[Marsh.]

Is kendrick really D ONE that's going to win against Ed Sheeran or industry princess? Maybe they just nominated him because he was featured in bad blood too. The other songs are featuring black artists they're not the main artists in the songs. Beyoncé and Rihanna are white peoples go to black girls. Is that re-released song really going to win?
Read Marie Claire piece for overall message of what Nicky was saying. They did a good job.

So the only possible reason Nicki Minaj misses out on a nomination is because of the colour of her skin?

Beyonce and Rihanna don't count because.... well because it contradicts your argument?

Please.

[Pete.]

Demand justice 4 Toxic! Boycott Bad Blood!

[Pete.]

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Woot woot good girl. I hope she's apologizing because she means it and not because she was being called out on faux feminism and plagiarism.
She's clearly backtracking because people are criticising Princess Taylor for sticking her nose into something that wasn't her business

[Pete.]

...just slightly off topic because I can't comment on the Nicki/Taylor thing but I know that CeeCee is very passionate in what she believes and the reasons for those beliefs and I think with good reasons as well in many cases..(although I don't know if this is one of them/that it's a racism thing...)...

...CeeCee recently posted some vids about Serena Williams..and yeah, the guy making the comments/racist but the worrying bit was the commentator's comment of....'oh, well I guess that's just sports, isn't it..'...really..?...so I guess the only way for others to understand what CeeCee is saying is to try to equate it to similar comments being made about others who may have prejudice shown against them...like homosexuals for instance and then it just being said...oh that's sport/or that's showbiz baby or whatever/no big deal, type thing....

...anyway, here's the vid which I found totally shocking so I don't understand CeeCee's passion with this and other things that she herself has experienced in her own life ....

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Serena's treatment at Wimbledon this year was disturbing

[Pete.]

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[Dominic]

Can we stop talking about this Taylor vs nicki and buy 1989 on iTunes?

[Smithy]

Can we stop talking about this Taylor vs that other woman and buy 1989 on iTunes?

the racism is so real :rolleyes:

[armand.kay]

...just slightly off topic because I can't comment on the Nicki/Taylor thing but I know that CeeCee is very passionate in what she believes and the reasons for those beliefs and I think with good reasons as well in many cases..(although I don't know if this is one of them/that it's a racism thing...)...

...CeeCee recently posted some vids about Serena Williams..and yeah, the guy making the comments/racist but the worrying bit was the commentator's comment of....'oh, well I guess that's just sports, isn't it..'...really..?...so I guess the only way for others to understand what CeeCee is saying is to try to equate it to similar comments being made about others who may have prejudice shown against them...like homosexuals for instance and then it just being said...oh that's sport/or that's showbiz baby or whatever/no big deal, type thing....

...anyway, here's the vid which I found totally shocking so I don't understand CeeCee's passion with this and other things that she herself has experienced in her own life ....

5pP-HEEPHIk#t=14
I agree there is still a lot of racism in today's world and its ofter overlooked. I normally 100% agree with cece on topics like this but i just don't think its racism in this specific case. I honestly feel like in this specific incident Nicki just can't think of why she wouldn't be nominated even though the vid isn't that good.

[Marsh.]

Nicki's beef is not cooked properly.

[Dominic]

the racism is so real :rolleyes:

Are you *****ing kidding me? Racism? I was just being random and "throwing shade". I don't see how what I said could be racist.

P.S. 7/11 is an amazing video and deserved to be nommed for vma.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

So.... whilst you're all having a very valid debate over racism.... it was brought on by Nicki Minaj missing out on one nomination?

Please. What an attention seeking twat she is.

Read the Marie Claire piece it does a good job at explaining the overall message she was trying to convey rather than the glossed over, simplified version from people who don't get it.

It's like when viola Davis sat on a table with George clooney, theron and others and tried to explain about racism in Hollywood both clooney and theron made it about them and Theron diminished her point with a glossed over "I'll stop you right there your ****ing hot" was not the overall point

[EspeonBB]

Taylord is so classy and mature :clap1: I'm glad she apologized for the misunderstanding

[Pete.]

mature

What's mature is not getting involved

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Taylord is so classy and mature :clap1: I'm glad she apologized for the misunderstanding

Classy my ass. Her tweet while the media was going to town on Nicky was happy birthday Selena like she gave zero ****s but when it turned on her all of a sudden she apologises. Why didn't she make his tweet when Nicky herself told her it wasn't about her?:nono:

[Marsh.]

Read the Marie Claire piece it does a good job at explaining the overall message she was trying to convey rather than the glossed over, simplified version from people who don't get it.

It's like when viola Davis sat on a table with George clooney, theron and others and tried to explain about racism in Hollywood both clooney and theron made it about them and Theron diminished her point with a glossed over "I'll stop you right there your ****ing hot" was not the overall point

It does a good job of talking about racism.

But both the article and Nicki Minaj do a piss poor job of trying to apply it to this particular situation.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

It does a good job of talking about racism.

But both the article and Nicki Minaj do a piss poor job of trying to apply it to this particular situation.

As long as you understood.

[Moosething]

Classy my ass. Her tweet while the media was going to town on Nicky was happy birthday Selena like she gave zero ****s but when it turned on her all of a sudden she apologises. Why didn't she make his tweet when Nicky herself told her it wasn't about her?:nono:

^

[Z]

Nicki Minaj is sour. Just because she's featured on about 50% of all songs ever released doesn't mean she should be nominated for awards by default. Idiot.

[Gstar]

Think I'm gonna watch the VMA live stream this year, I need to follow the dramz as it's happening and support the #Beyhive

[Saph]

me tu