Ted Heath Child Sex Abuse Claims Investigated

[arista]

http://news.sky.com/story/1529660/ted-heath-child-sex-abuse-claims-investigated


[Child sex abuse claims against the former
prime minister Sir Edward Heath are to be
investigated by police, it has been announced.

Officers are to examine the handling of a claim against
the Conservative prime minister made in the 1990s,
the Independent Police Complaints Commission has confirmed.]


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/20/Sir_Edward_Heath_Allan_Warren.jpg/220px-Sir_Edward_Heath_Allan_Warren.jpg

[Kizzy]

In a statement the police watchdog said: "It is alleged that a criminal prosecution was not pursued, when a person threatened to expose that Sir Edward Heath may have been involved in offences concerning children.

Why didn't they expose him then?.... :/

[arista]

In a statement the police watchdog said: "It is alleged that a criminal prosecution was not pursued, when a person threatened to expose that Sir Edward Heath may have been involved in offences concerning children.

Why didn't they expose him then?.... :/


I assume in those days it was kept closed up

[bots]

There were rumours about Heath at the time, whether they were true or not is anyone's guess, but this must be followed up as it is clear that cover ups did happen in that era, and the more strands uncovered, the more likely it is that it will never happen again.

[Kizzy]

PM says police can go 'as high as they like' that's nice of him.

'Police should be able to investigate child abuse allegations against high-profile politicians "without fear or uncertainty" of how high up in Government they can go.

David Cameron said police should be able to take action on any new information and urged anyone who knew anything about "these terrible crimes against children and young people" to come forward.

He spoke after it was disclosed that the former head of MI5 urged the Government to keep quiet about allegations of child sex abuse made against a senior MP in the 1980s.'

http://news.sky.com/story/1523821/child-abuse-pm-tells-police-no-limits

[smudgie]

The amount of child sex abuse coming to light is terrible.
Anyone under suspicion should be brought to book, dead or alive.

[arista]

The amount of child sex abuse coming to light is terrible.
Anyone under suspicion should be brought to book, dead or alive.


I think they will , soon

[joeysteele]

'If' any of it is true in the first place, then it should be at least thoroughly investigated,although for the life of me,why was it not done so at the time allegations were raised near decades ago.

When has child abuse 'not' been a criminal offence in the 60s,70s,80s and 90s to the present.

Why all this when the individual is dead and can never be questioned or answer the allegations or defend themselves.

[Z]

That's kind of especially appalling if this turns out to be true... yuck

[billy123]

Derek Lauds arse will be starting to twitch about now from things I have read his name seems to be caught up pretty deeply in all of this once a couple more of them pop their clogs there will be nobody to protect him.

[arista]

http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2015/8/3/409642/default/v1/utils-1-442x589.jpg

If this is True?
then its shocking.

They can not prove it
unless others come forward.

[arista]

Derek Lauds arse will be starting to twitch about now from things I have read his name seems to be caught up pretty deeply in all of this once a couple more of them pop their clogs there will be nobody to protect him.

http://www.civilsociety.co.uk/images/thumbs/derek-laud-250_1_250.jpg

The Ch4 Big Brother
Cocky One

[Mystic Mock]

Derek and Ted Heath are innocent until proven guilty.

However if there was claims about it at the time when he was alive then it should've been investigated, although with all of this information coming out now it's making it hard for any normal guys to walk around if their Niece, Nephew, Son, or Daughter nowadays without getting glares from people, I've not experienced it personally myself because of how young I am, but I know of people that have experienced that and it's disgusting and I blame people like Jimmy Saville and Rolf Harris etc who should rot in hell for causing this issue for the male gender.

[Mystic Mock]

Derek and Ted Heath are innocent until proven guilty.

However if there was claims about it at the time when he was alive then it should've been investigated, although with all of this information coming out now it's making it hard for any normal guys to walk around if their Niece, Nephew, Son, or Daughter nowadays without getting glares from people, I've not experienced it personally myself because of how young I am, but I know of people that have experienced that and it's disgusting and I blame people like Jimmy Saville and Rolf Harris etc who should rot in hell for causing this issue for the male gender.

[Livia]

http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2015/8/3/409642/default/v1/utils-1-442x589.jpg

If this is True?
then its shocking.

They can not prove it
unless others come forward.

If there is any truth in the claim, then going to the tabloids jeopardises any inquiry and makes me question the reasons for the claim.

[Kizzy]

In which universe would the media not pick this up though? It's a huge scandal for the establishment it says nothing as to the cases involved.

[arista]

If there is any truth in the claim, then going to the tabloids jeopardises any inquiry and makes me question the reasons for the claim.

Yes it would be
much better if there was Solid Proof
all we have is one man
so far.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3184524/Former-Prime-Minister-Edward-Heath-accused-raping-12-year-old-boy.html

[bots]

I'm sure if there was a cover up that there will be some traceable evidence of it somewhere. Everyone knows that this was a problem and maybe it still is. It will all come out one way or another, so going to the press does nothing more than focus public attention on the issue. The more attention on it, the better as far as I'm concerned.

[Kizzy]

Do you mean the evidence from the 80s that was destroyed, the evidence that Theresa May admitted was part of a cover up?..

[kirklancaster]

These rumours involving Heath have been around for decades.

[hijaxers]

These rumours involving Heath have been around for decades.

I think that many Rape crisis lines have been contacted down the years regarding Ted Heath - it will take all of these anonymous callers to come forward - many of whom have have ruined lives

[Crimson Dynamo]

I think they would be better off trying to catch ones at large now

as there seems to be quite a few

[bots]

Do you mean the evidence from the 80s that was destroyed, the evidence that Theresa May admitted was part of a cover up?..

I mean the whole sordid mess needs to be exposed. I think the whole web of abuse is wide spread and many big names from the past and present have been protected. Any exposure in the press or anywhere else that leads to it being brought to the public's attention and forces something to be done is fine by me.

From my memories Heath was always viewed as suspicious and the same applies now to current day politicians and celebrities. It has to be sorted out and now is the time to do it.

[arista]

These rumours involving Heath have been around for decades.


Yes due to a Women who had a Brothel
who the Police were about to close down
but she protested she knew of that PM having sex with a boy.

So the Police dropped it.


That was reported in the papers
Ref : Ch5HD Wright Stuff

[Livia]

I think that many Rape crisis lines have been contacted down the years regarding Ted Heath - it will take all of these anonymous callers to come forward - many of whom have have ruined lives

Allegedly.

[joeysteele]

Allegedly.

Exactly.

The way these things are conducted by the media is disgraceful,so called newspapers today for instance, have Edward Heath branded guilty already.
Yet as yet, there is not a single alleged incident that it appears could stand up in court.

Once the rotten media circus gets into full swing, it mystifies me then as to how it can ever really be,beyond all doubt,that anyone can be assumed to be guilty of such acts.

I really just don't know about this one but this is yet another scenario where the 'alleged' abuses can never be put to the person,who has all this going on as to them without ever being able to defend themselves against same.

[bots]

Exactly.

The way these things are conducted by the media is disgraceful,so called newspapers today for instance, have Edward Heath branded guilty already.
Yet as yet, there is not a single alleged incident that it appears could stand up in court.

Once the rotten media circus gets into full swing, it mystifies me then as to how it can ever really be,beyond all doubt,that anyone can be assumed to be guilty of such acts.

I really just don't know about this one but this is yet another scenario where the 'alleged' abuses can never be put to the person,who has all this going on as to them without ever being able to defend themselves against same.
That's the whole point though, as Ted Heath is no longer with us, anyone can say anything without fear of legal recourse. It could easily be a pack of lies, but it does no harm to investigate it in detail. Its not so long ago that Jimmy Saville was considered some sort of saint. Without the press and others publicising it, none of that would have come out. I still remember the BBC denying it was even possible at the time the story broke. Remember also the MP's expenses scandal and how that was broken by the press too

Allegations of this nature have to be investigated thoroughly, like them or loathe them, that's what the press is for.

[arista]

Exactly.

The way these things are conducted by the media is disgraceful,so called newspapers today for instance, have Edward Heath branded guilty already.
Yet as yet, there is not a single alleged incident that it appears could stand up in court.

Once the rotten media circus gets into full swing, it mystifies me then as to how it can ever really be,beyond all doubt,that anyone can be assumed to be guilty of such acts.

I really just don't know about this one but this is yet another scenario where the 'alleged' abuses can never be put to the person,who has all this going on as to them without ever being able to defend themselves against same.


Yes thats so Wrong of the Mirror.
They need to find his Security People
who had to protect him until he died
or something more solid

[hijaxers]

Wait and see Ted heath was a very evil man

[Livia]

Wait and see Ted heath was a very evil man

Wait and see's right. Because without evidence the rest of your post means nothing. I doubt you know any more about him and his personal life than anyone else on here.

[empire]

intruth it was no secret in jersey, that health would take boys from the childrens home, and take them on his boat, and come back with no children on it, the police know not to dare take on the establishment, or they would take there pensions, or die in a nasty accident,

[the truth]

the amount of money were spending investigating the deeds of dead people decades ago its a wonder weve got any resources left to uncover all the abuses going on NOW AND IN THE FUTURE?

[Kizzy]

intruth it was no secret in jersey, that health would take boys from the childrens home, and take them on his boat, and come back with no children on it, the police know not to dare take on the establishment, or they would take there pensions, or die in a nasty accident,

Are you from Jersey Empire, wasn't there a scandal in that area involving a childrens home that children regularly disappeared from and they were found on the grounds?

[empire]

a relative of mine, was in the police forces, and knows two officers, who worked in jersey, and it was no secret, in the force, about ted health, those kids where dumped into the sea, you don't know what those mps, are into,

[Livia]

intruth it was no secret in jersey, that health would take boys from the childrens home, and take them on his boat, and come back with no children on it, the police know not to dare take on the establishment, or they would take there pensions, or die in a nasty accident,

a relative of mine, was in the police forces, and knows two officers, who worked in jersey, and it was no secret, in the force, about ted health, those kids where dumped into the sea, you don't know what those mps, are into,

Those are very serious allegations. If I thought for one moment that there was one iota of truth in what you're saying, I would forward your posts to the police. However, I think you just watch too much telly.

[Nedusa]

http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2015/8/3/409642/default/v1/utils-1-442x589.jpg

If this is True?
then its shocking.

They can not prove it
unless others come forward.

Oh ffs.... How much longer are we going to put up with this crap, the destruction of our most respected citizens their reputations shredded because some ****ing aids riddled rent boy thinks he can make a few bob selling lies to the Newspapers.

And these people are not around to defend themselves..

Disgusting... What sort of sad society have we become ?

[Ryan57]

a relative of mine, was in the police forces, and knows two officers, who worked in jersey, and it was no secret, in the force, about ted health, those kids where dumped into the sea, you don't know what those mps, are into,

I read this for the first time the other day. Been claimed for a while it seems.

[Kizzy]

Oh ffs.... How much longer are we going to put up with this crap, the destruction of our most respected citizens their reputations shredded because some ****ing aids riddled rent boy thinks he can make a few bob selling lies to the Newspapers.

And these people are not around to defend themselves..

Disgusting... What sort of sad society have we become ?

'Most respected citizens' all animals are equal Nedusa you know that. Why are you suggesting the accuser has AIDS?

[Livia]

I read this for the first time the other day. Been claimed for a while it seems.

Claims without evidence are meaningless.

[Kizzy]

I doubt there will be a trail of semen from the nearest childrens home to his grave so they'll prob go to plan B and seek witnesses.

[Livia]

I doubt there will be a trail of semen from the nearest childrens home to his grave so they'll prob go to plan B and seek witnesses.

What a glib and rather sickening reply.

Witnesses are evidence, so long as their stories can be corroborated. That's what I meant. I assumed that would be obvious to most people. Clearly I was wrong.

[Kizzy]

What a glib and rather sickening reply.

Witnesses are evidence, so long as their stories can be corroborated. That's what I meant. I assumed that would be obvious to most people. Clearly I was wrong.

But true enough sadly.
Is the 'rent boy' not evidence then? Let's hope there are more victims.. sorry, 'evidence' to come forward then.

[Livia]

But true enough sadly.
Is the 'rent boy' not evidence then? Let's hope there are more victims.. sorry, 'evidence' to come forward then.

Do you understand the word "corroborate"?

Enough now Kizzy, I'm putting you back on ignore. This constant verbal fencing with you is so tedious.

[Kizzy]

Yes I do, that's fine I'm not fencing with you I'm just having my say on the topic.

[the truth]

isn't there a time limit on these claims? The way there is on claims of neglect against the nhs?

[billy123]

isn't there a time limit on these claims? The way there is on claims of neglect against the nhs?I was interested in that as well but apparently the rest of Europe it is 12 years with the exception being the UK in which there is no limit.
http://www.theopinionsite.org/should-britain-have-a-statute-of-limitations-on-sex-crimes/

[Ryan57]

Claims without evidence are meaningless.

I never said otherwise.

Edit: Jimmy Savile's nephew says a friend was abused by Ted Heath today. He also says Savile took him to paedophile parties.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3186719/Police-probing-links-Ted-Heath-Jimmy-Savile-paedophile-ice-cream-mogul-known-King-Cornet.html

[the truth]

I was interested in that as well but apparently the rest of Europe it is 12 years with the exception being the UK in which there is no limit.
http://www.theopinionsite.org/should-britain-have-a-statute-of-limitations-on-sex-crimes/

TYPICAL ...BASKET CASE UK
they'll be claiming against Lloyd George next ffs
there has to be a time limit....meanwhile we can claim against dead great great great grandparents....but we cant claim if the wrong kidney is taken out after a few years....INSANE...WHY HAS NO POLITICIAN EVEN ADDRESSED THE INFINITE TIME LIMIT ON THIS NONSENSE

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Those older white powerful men...

[the truth]

Those older white powerful men...

DEAD