Thailand : Bomb Blast In Bangkok Kills 'Over 20 Dead'

[arista]

http://news.sky.com/story/1537096/bomb-blast-in-bangkok-kills-at-least-27


http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2015/8/17/412497/default/v2/cegrab-20150817-135722-317-1-736x414.jpg
Its night time there now

The Shrine


Cross that Off your holiday list

[Anaesthesia]

I'm shocked, stunned and horrified as I spend a fair bit of time in Bangkok...this is so uncharacteristic of anything that happens in the city.

My love, thoughts and prayers are with everyone.

[kirklancaster]

And mine Anaesthesia.

[Anaesthesia]

I'm just constantly looking for updates, to me it makes no sense that it would be a terrorist attack, who on earth do the Thais annoy? I am well aware it's a tourist area, but even in tourist areas in Thailand you'll see way more Thais than foreign nationals...if they wanted tourists surely they would go somewhere like Khao San?

It doesn't even make any sense that it would be a result of the political tension in Thailand, I was there when the "riots" were going on about 20 months ago, there were isolated shootings and a bit of razor wire up, but on the whole, the protest were peaceful with a lot of singing, and even musical events going on right at the heart of them.

I just don't understand who would want to do this in Bangkok, of all places. A friend's father is a buddhist monk really pretty close to that shrine, I am trying to contact her to see if everything is ok and I truly hope it is.

[arista]

I'm shocked, stunned and horrified as I spend a fair bit of time in Bangkok...this is so uncharacteristic of anything that happens in the city.

My love, thoughts and prayers are with everyone.


Yes but there are tribes at War there
its being going on for years

[arista]

I'm just constantly looking for updates, to me it makes no sense that it would be a terrorist attack, who on earth do the Thais annoy? I am well aware it's a tourist area, but even in tourist areas in Thailand you'll see way more Thais than foreign nationals...if they wanted tourists surely they would go somewhere like Khao San?

It doesn't even make any sense that it would be a result of the political tension in Thailand, I was there when the "riots" were going on about 20 months ago, there were isolated shootings and a bit of razor wire up, but on the whole, the protest were peaceful with a lot of singing, and even musical events going on right at the heart of them.

I just don't understand who would want to do this in Bangkok, of all places. A friend's father is a buddhist monk really pretty close to that shrine, I am trying to contact her to see if everything is ok and I truly hope it is.


Yes it was a Terrorist Bomber
Fact

[Anaesthesia]

Link please?

[arista]

Link please?

http://news.sky.com/story/1537096/bomb-blast-in-bangkok-kills-at-least-27

[Anaesthesia]

From that article I read that "nobody has claimed responsibility for the attack" ...

[arista]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/08/17/14/2B70065300000578-3200938-image-a-12_1439819009026.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/08/17/13/2B6FE40300000578-0-image-a-2_1439815959349.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/08/17/15/2B7030A200000578-3200938-image-a-14_1439820074100.jpg
[Emergency: The blast rocked the popular tourist area of Rachaprasong district in heart of the Thai capital]

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3200938/At-12-people-killed-20-injured-bomb-blast-central-Bangkok.html#ixzz3j5DTpZGN

[arista]

From that article I read that "nobody has claimed responsibility for the attack" ...


Yes thats normal
it comes later

[Niamh.]

From that article I read that "nobody has claimed responsibility for the attack" ...

3 bombs by a religious shrine though, it's pretty likely to be a terrorist attack

[arista]

3 bombs by a religious shrine though, it's pretty likely to be a terrorist attack


Yes sadly true
its been building up
over many years

[Anaesthesia]

3 bombs by a religious shrine though, it's pretty likely to be a terrorist attack

You'd go a long way to avoid a shrine in Bangkok...the fact that this is a Hindu shrine especially popular with Chinese makes it even more confusing to me :(

[Anaesthesia]

Yes it was a Terrorist Bomber
Fact

It may well have been...but please don't quote it as fact when it is yet not :(

[Cherie]

It may well have been...but please don't quote it as fact when it is yet not :(

2 bombs were planted confirmed On BBC news, being a gentle race doesn't protect you from terrorism, look at Bali?

[Anaesthesia]

2 bombs were planted confirmed On BBC news, being a gentle race doesn't protect you from terrorism, look at Bali?

3 were planted, one was discovered in time. Bali was mostly targeted at Australians in a Muslim country, if they are after Westerners, would have made much more sense to put one at one of the 3 enormous shopping malls in the area...not saying anyone did or didn't do it, just because I know Thailand so well I'm having a hard time making sense of who / why.

[arista]

It may well have been...but please don't quote it as fact when it is yet not :(


Do you know when the London Bombers were starting
The BBC kept saying
its a Electrical Fault.

Only SkyNews Confirmed first it was a terrorist attack


I have 5 TV News feeds (2 with subtitles)
from all these world news
I can say its a Fact
and it was a Terrorist Bomber

[Anaesthesia]

Do you know when the London Bombers were starting
The BBC kept saying
its a Electrical Fault.

Only SkyNews Confirmed first it was a terrorist attack


I have 5 TV News feeds (2 with subtitles)
from all these world news
I can say its a Fact
and it was a Terrorist Bomber

I don't really care whether you are right, wrong, or jumping to conclusions tbh. I have family and friends there and we are all trying to make sense of it. I don't want to speculate, all I am saying in this thread is that I REALLY don't understand, why there?

[arista]

"why there? "

Outside the Shrine
was selected.


Terrorists do not care if its a sacred place
Look at Isis the way they Destroy Sacred Buildings
The World can change fast

[arista]

SkyNewsHD Live is now debating Why?

[Anaesthesia]

"why there? "

Outside the Shrine
was selected.


Terrorists do not care if its a sacred place
Look at Isis the way they Destroy Sacred Buildings
The World can change fast

OK, the shrine was selected. Presumably for its high footfall of Chinese and Indians then rather than Westerners. This is what I am trying to make sense of.

If they wanted to destroy REALLY sacred buildings, they didn't have far to go.

[arista]

"they didn't have far to go."


2 other Devices were found
one on the Sky Train

[Anaesthesia]

"they didn't have far to go."


2 other Devices were found
one on the Sky Tram

The Skytrain is not a sacred building. I was talking about sacred buildings in my post, in response to you.

Arista, I have a lot of respect for your posts, but you are trying to contradict me when I am neither looking for contradiction nor argument, just trying to make sense of what has just happened, with a lot of people I love nearby or thereabouts, thankfully all safe.

Let's just wait until we have the facts, and from that, I do not mean from Sky, I mean from a local news source, HD or not.

[arista]

CNN is reporting this went on one year ago

Yellow Shirts Vs Red Shirts etc.

[arista]

"local news source"

Yes if the Army let them

[Anaesthesia]

"local news source"

Yes if the Army let them

Come back to me when you know from experience how things work in Thailand. Sky, CNN and Fox won't be able to tell you that.

[Cherie]

3 were planted, one was discovered in time. Bali was mostly targeted at Australians in a Muslim country, if they are after Westerners, would have made much more sense to put one at one of the 3 enormous shopping malls in the area...not saying anyone did or didn't do it, just because I know Thailand so well I'm having a hard time making sense of who / why.


Possibly because they don't actually care who they kill and it's all about creating a world of fear

[Anaesthesia]

Possibly because they don't actually care who they kill and it's all about creating a world of fear

That makes me so sad for humanity, Cherie :( Not saying it couldn't be true

[arista]

Come back to me when you know from experience how things work in Thailand. Sky, CNN and Fox won't be able to tell you that.


CNN Live
are doing Great.

Now the Police are saying the Bomb
was in the Shrine

[Cherie]

That makes me so sad for humanity, Cherie :( Not saying it couldn't be true

It is sad Ana But unfortunately it is the way we live now

[arista]

Briton Describes Moment Of Blast

[Four foreigners are among the victims
of an explosion near a shrine which
is popular with tourists.]


[A tourist who was in a hotel directly
above the bomb blast that
has reportedly killed at least
27 people has described
how "the whole building shook".
Former Bangkok resident
Lucinda-Jane Chastain told
Sky News: "It was just this
massive explosive noise.
The whole building shook.
"We all ran to the windows.
It was quite hard to see what
was happening but we could
see debris in the street.
"All we can see is a horrible
mess on the road.
This is at the very heart of Bangkok.]

http://news.sky.com/story/1537149/bangkok-bomb-briton-describes-moment-of-blast

http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2015/8/17/412503/default/v3/gettyimages-484325994-1-589x442.jpg

[arista]

It appears Tourists
were part of the target


Cross this nation off your list, sadly


Ref: Ch5HD News

[Benjamin]

"why there? "

Outside the Shrine
was selected.


Terrorists do not care if its a sacred place
Look at Isis the way they Destroy Sacred Buildings
The World can change fast

Actually sometimes they do. Bangkok is very rarely a target (and an odd choice tbh) and usually shrines are not touched over there in terrorism attacks. It's strange because the likely countries that could be behind the attack had people die in it.

[Benjamin]

It appears Tourists
were part of the target


Cross this nation off your list, sadly


Ref: Ch5HD News

Also if tourists were the main target thy would have picked somewhere that wasn't a shrine.

[arista]

Also if tourists were the main target they would have picked somewhere that wasn't a shrine.


They Did BEN

but the other devices were stopped.


Cross it off your next Asia trip

[arista]

Police Hunt Thai Bomb Suspect Seen On CCTV

Its Now a Fact
a Pipe Bomb Full of TNT went off

Its a Nation without a Democratic Power
The Army took over last Year


Eight foreigners were among those killed and more than 120 injured when the device detonated at the Erawan shrine in Bangkok.

http://news.sky.com/story/1537377/police-hunt-thai-bomb-suspect-seen-on-cctv

[Anaesthesia]

I think all Ben is saying Arista, as was I, that the bombing is very hard to make sense of according to its location and victims.

Nobody is denying that there was a bomb, or that it went off at a shrine, it's just because Ben also knows the East well, it is a very peculiar and unique kind of attack, and no group has yet claimed any responsibility...which is even more unusual.

At the moment it seems as though it was either a lone perpetrator, or a couple - the video footage shows a young man leaving a backpack on a bench which would presumably have been picked up and sited.

Commentators close to the political situation can also not make much sense of it...please see here:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-33970901

[MTVN]

It does all seem very confusing and there doesn't seem to be a clear motive yet, just calling it a terrorist attack doesn't mean that much by itself..

[Anaesthesia]

just calling it a terrorist attack doesn't mean that much by itself..

Exactly that. It obviously has terrorist purposes within the definition of the word, but that means nothing without a motive. This is what everyone is struggling to understand.

[Crimson Dynamo]

uxrdmJ1HTZc

[arista]

"it is a very peculiar and unique kind of attack"

For You Yes


But Last Year the Democratic Power
was taken down by the Army,
to me thats wrong

And If this is Yellow Shirts or Isis

Its all part of their plan

[arista]

It does all seem very confusing and there doesn't seem to be a clear motive yet, just calling it a terrorist attack doesn't mean that much by itself..


Yes that will come.

But they are getting out of that nation first


Its Outright Terrorism
against a Nation run by the Army


do the Math

[Anaesthesia]

Yes that will come.

But they are getting out of that nation first


Its Outright Terrorism
against a Nation run by the Army


do the Math

Been trying to since yesterday...what conclusions do you come up with when you do the maths Arista? Sticking your neck out, who do you think is responsible, and why?

[arista]

If its a backash to having Army Run that nation
it can be many groups.

If its Isis then its even worse

The Police under Army Rule
say they have a open mind

[arista]

One of the Dead was from Hong Kong
a British National . Being Reported now


http://news.sky.com/story/1537665/london-student-among-bangkok-bomb-dead

[Anaesthesia]

I still think it must be a lone operator. Killing and injuring mostly Thais would suggest to me that it's one or two nutcases protesting against martial rule, which, let's be honest, considering the governmental corruption IS necessary as a stopgap administration.

I'll stick MY neck out, and say this is NOT ISIL.

Ofc I know no more FACTS than the next person. However, I do know Thailand and its people.

[arista]

I still think it must be a lone operator. Killing and injuring mostly Thais would suggest to me that it's one or two nutcases protesting against martial rule, which, let's be honest, considering the governmental corruption IS necessary as a stopgap administration.

I'll stick MY neck out, and say this is NOT ISIL.

Ofc I know no more FACTS than the next person. However, I do know Thailand and its people.


Yes could be.

[MTVN]

I still think it must be a lone operator. Killing and injuring mostly Thais would suggest to me that it's one or two nutcases protesting against martial rule, which, let's be honest, considering the governmental corruption IS necessary as a stopgap administration.

I'll stick MY neck out, and say this is NOT ISIL.

Ofc I know no more FACTS than the next person. However, I do know Thailand and its people.

I suspect you're right, it doesn't seem to fit the profile at all for an ISIS attack and I'm pretty sure we'd know by now if they did have anything to do with it

[arista]

Yes Yesterday Another Pipe Bomb
that went off at a Riverside area (not killing anyone)
lucky it went off early or something
so I am saying its a Terrorist Group.

http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2015/8/18/412660/default/v1/cegrab-20150818-093159-0-1-736x414.jpg
Meanwhile Police and Army are trying to find this suspect
who had a back pack going into to the shrine
and coming out no back pack.

[Ammi]

I still think it must be a lone operator. Killing and injuring mostly Thais would suggest to me that it's one or two nutcases protesting against martial rule, which, let's be honest, considering the governmental corruption IS necessary as a stopgap administration.

I'll stick MY neck out, and say this is NOT ISIL.

Ofc I know no more FACTS than the next person. However, I do know Thailand and its people.

..I think you're right and also, a terrorist group would surely want it to be known it's them/isn't that a huge part of it so would have stated so...

[arista]

..I think you're right and also, a terrorist group would surely want it to be known it's them/isn't that a huge part of it so would have stated so...


Depends its a Nation under Army Control
and if they are still in the nation
they may want to let it out after more Bombs.


Terrorists Have No Rules Ammi

[arista]

http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2015/8/19/412954/default/v1/composite-1-736x414.jpg
[A huge search is under way for the trio,
including a young man in a yellow T-shirt
seen on grainy video footage apparently
planting the bomb
and who could be foreign,
say authorities.]

http://news.sky.com/story/1538118/bangkok-bomb-foreigner-among-three-suspects

[Benjamin]

Two men identified as suspects in the Bangkok bombing have handed themselves in to police, insisting they are tour guides, authorities say.
The pair were seen in security camera footage shortly before Monday's blast at the Erawan Shrine.
The men, in red and white T-shirts, rose from a bench shortly before the main suspect, in yellow, sat down and left behind his backpack
The attack at the shrine killed 20 people and injured dozens.
Police are now questioning the pair.
They had said that at least 10 people were suspected of involvement in the attack, and that the prime suspect was foreign.
However, earlier on Thursday, Col Winthai Suvaree, a spokesman for the ruling military junta, said the preliminary conclusion was that it was "unlikely" the attack was the work of an international terror group.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-34007723

[Anaesthesia]

Both have now officially been cleared.

[arista]

"international terror group."


If it was they would Claim it
like Isis would be proud of it , etc.