Top 5 Best Gameplayers - BBCAN

[Raph]

Just curious, who do you all think are the five best game players of bbcan so far? Would be great to hear reasons as well. For me:

1. Neda (BBCAN2) - Really mean person in many ways but boy did she control and run that game inside and out.
2. Emmett (BBCAN1) - Was never really a target despite winning so many competitions and being both a physical as well as mental threat. Outstanding social game.
3. Godfrey (BBCAN3) - Very underrated game but this guy managed to send Jordan home the week Zach was HOH. He had no allies yet managed to make it to final 2.
4. Zach (BBCAN3) - If it hadn't have been for Canada's twist giving Knee the power, Zach would've coasted to the end imo. Yes he played out of fear and it was annoying to watch at times, but he was very much in control of the game he was playing.
5. Sarah (BBCAN3) - Despite the help from the producers, she did genuinely have a great social game. In my opinion, she was a little too emotional game wise but I think that worked for her particular season.

[Pete.]

I think people overlook how Brittnee managed to stay on her toes with her competition wins, especially during the Triple eviction

[Raph]

I think people overlook how Brittnee managed to stay on her toes with her competition wins, especially during the Triple eviction

Yet to me the triple eviction in many ways articulated how awful of a player she was when she chose to put up Willow over Ashleigh, guaranteeing that only one diaper alliance member would go home. Ended up costing her the game in the end too when Ashleigh won that veto. Also she had no game until week 4 and even after that her game was controlled by Sarah.

You know a player sucks when they target one of their closest allies just out of jealousy.

[Headie]

Jillian, Jon, Sarah, Sabrina and Godfrey since they were never evicted, therefore played better games than every other BBCAN HG.

[Raph]

Jillian, Jon, Sarah, Sabrina and Godfrey since they were never evicted, therefore played better games than every other BBCAN HG.

Sabrina's game is so underrated YESS HAYDEN! Glad you brought her up. I hated how they devalued her as a player when really imo she deserved to win of the final 2!

[LukeB]

1.Emmett
2.Neda
3.Sarah
4.Godfrey
5.Jillian (this was hard but she was in an showmance and won comps which made her a threat but she never faced eviction until the final 3)

[LemonJam]

For the record I'm pretty sure Brittnee and Sindy had more to do with Jordan going home over Godfrey.

Gameplay is pretty difficult to evaluate in BBCan because there is so much shameless rigging but my list would probably go...

1. Jon
2. Emmett
3. Neda
4. Sarah (3)
5. ...Bruno maybe?

Shoutouts to Andrew (1), Ashleigh and Zach (he ****ed up bad in his first HoH otherwise very solid.)

[Macie Lightfoot]

Yet to me the triple eviction in many ways articulated how awful of a player she was when she chose to put up Willow over Ashleigh, guaranteeing that only one diaper alliance member would go home. Ended up costing her the game in the end too when Ashleigh won that veto. Also she had no game until week 4 and even after that her game was controlled by Sarah.

You know a player sucks when they target one of their closest allies just out of jealousy.

alol at this subjective fan fiction <3 so concerned about dumb recruit Brittnee

For the record I'm pretty sure Brittnee and Sindy had more to do with Jordan going home over Godfrey.

but she's a dumb recruit so we can't give her any credit remember?

[LukeB]

alol at this subjective fan fiction <3 so concerned about dumb recruit Brittnee

but she's a dumb recruit so we can't give her any credit remember?

Fan fiction is a made up story..Raph is giving his opinion

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so yeah it's not fan fiction :)

[Raph]

Luke :clap1:

[LemonJam]

Loads of people made dumb moves in the triple eviction in all fairness and it kinda gets overlooked. Like Zach voting to keep Willow over Kevin and Pili makes absolutely no sense and Godfrey voting to save Pili over Willow didn't make sense either but Brittnee and Sarah always seem to get the most flack in the triple :shrug:

[Firewire]

Not Brittnee slander

[Mokka]

Yet to me the triple eviction in many ways articulated how awful of a player she was when she chose to put up Willow over Ashleigh, guaranteeing that only one diaper alliance member would go home. Ended up costing her the game in the end too when Ashleigh won that veto. Also she had no game until week 4 and even after that her game was controlled by Sarah.

You know a player sucks when they target one of their closest allies just out of jealousy.

She wasn't a close Alli though...

Sarah was even saying in the diary room she would ditch Britt for Willow,
That makes Willow a threat to Britt's game. Which makes it a great move because it renewed her principle alliance and kept her in longer

[LukeB]

She wasn't a close Alli though...

Sarah was even saying in the diary room she would ditch Britt for Willow,
That makes Willow a threat to Britt's game. Which makes it a great move because it renewed her principle alliance and kept her in longer

Wasn't she against the couples tho? she wanted rid of them.. but getting rid of willow didn't damage the diaper alliance.. she couldn't get rid of Zach so why not go for the next member of that alliance? not liking Brittnee shouldn't be a problem for members like Macie who moans about it the most because he doesn't like what he's seeing. Her social game sucked which is why she went because she made no relationships with others she just made one with Sarah. She would have gone the week Zach went if it wasn't for that power so she got lucky.

[Pete.]

It was so clear that Sarah and Willow would take each other to Final 2... and with Willow out of the way Sarah and Knee had a solid Final 2 deal

[Firewire]

It was so clear that Sarah and Willow would take each other to Final 2... and with Willow out of the way Sarah and Knee had a solid Final 2 deal

pretty much

[Mokka]

pretty much

Obvious to everyone except Raph and Luke it seems :fan:

[Macie Lightfoot]

She wasn't a close Alli though...

Sarah was even saying in the diary room she would ditch Britt for Willow,
That makes Willow a threat to Britt's game. Which makes it a great move because it renewed her principle alliance and kept her in longer

mhmm and let's not forget that some people were celebrating the possibility of Sarah and Willow taking out Brittnee!!! And I still think that regardless of how smart/dumb it was to nominate Willow, Sarah actually voted to evict her, but that always gets ignored bc it doesn't fit the story of Brittnee the Dumb Recruit that people try to push forward.

[Pete.]

Wasn't she against the couples tho? she wanted rid of them.. but getting rid of willow didn't damage the diaper alliance.. she couldn't get rid of Zach so why not go for the next member of that alliance? not liking Brittnee shouldn't be a problem for members like Macie who moans about it the most because he doesn't like what he's seeing. Her social game sucked which is why she went because she made no relationships with others she just made one with Sarah. She would have gone the week Zach went if it wasn't for that power so she got lucky.
'Luck' is common in the BBUSA format though. Hell most of my faves have benefited greatly from luck/manipulation like Rachel

[Firewire]

mhmm and let's not forget that some people were celebrating the possibility of Sarah and Willow taking out Brittnee!!! And I still think that regardless of how smart/dumb it was to nominate Willow, Sarah actually voted to evict her, but that always gets ignored bc it doesn't fit the story of Brittnee the Dumb Recruit that people try to push forward.

But she thought Willow was going home!!!!!

[Mokka]

But she thought Willow was going home!!!!!

Well she thought wrong then didn't she :fan:

[Firewire]

Well she thought wrong then didn't she :fan:

:laugh:

[Pete.]

Well she thought wrong then didn't she :fan:
:fan:

[LukeB]

It was so clear that Sarah and Willow would take each other to Final 2... and with Willow out of the way Sarah and Knee had a solid Final 2 deal

Sarah made deals with Willow because you can't build relationships with just one person, Funny enough Ashleigh became a beast at competitions after that triple eviction and the diaper alliance was strong but because it didn't count and Brittnee got lucky. If that was a normal week Brittnee would have been sent home.

It's not about loving Willow more it just sending her home was a silly move which most people do.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Right and Sarah sent her home ultimately so

[LukeB]

Right and Sarah sent her home ultimately so

I'm sorry you can't take opinions that you don't agree with well :)

[Pete.]

Sarah made deals with Willow because you can't build relationships with just one person, Funny enough Ashleigh became a beast at competitions after that triple eviction and the diaper alliance was strong but because it didn't count and Brittnee got lucky. If that was a normal week Brittnee would have been sent home.

It's not about loving Willow more it just sending her home was a silly move which most people do.
Which is why is said that her winning that HoH in the Triple was the best for her game because she would have been out for sure then.

Plus the Jordan oust that she was heavily involved in was genius for her gameplay.

[Macie Lightfoot]

This isn't even a matter of opinions though. You keep talking about how dumb it was to send Willow home, but the person who ultimately sent Willow home was Sarah. If she voted to keep Willow, then she would have stayed. She didn't, so Willow was evicted.

[LukeB]

This isn't even a matter of opinions though. You keep talking about how dumb it was to send Willow home, but the person who ultimately sent Willow home was Sarah. If she voted to keep Willow, then she would have stayed. She didn't, so Willow was evicted.

Well Brittnee had the choice to put Ashleigh up after her plan to get Zach out failed because Bruno saved Zach (:clap1:)

just having an opinion :) deal with it tbh

[Macie Lightfoot]

If you're bringing up Bruno saving Zach then it's definitely worth noting that Brittnee wasn't even allowed to play in that POV Comp even though she was HOH.

[Mokka]

Well Brittnee had the choice to put Ashleigh up after her plan to get Zach out failed because Bruno saved Zach (:clap1:)

just having an opinion :) deal with it tbh

But her choice to put up Willow was not a bad one or a wrong one... It was theright move for her game tbh, which makes her an astute game player.

Just because you like Willow, doesn't make it bad game play

[LukeB]

But her choice to put up Willow was not a bad one or a wrong one... It was theright move for her game tbh, which makes her an astute game player.

Just because you like Willow, doesn't make it bad game play

I just said it's not about loving Willow more..... It's only my opinion

[EspeonBB]

It was Sarah's fault that Willow was evicted tbh. She could have just voted to save Willow, therefore sending Pilar home and two members of the diaper alliance out. Plus Brittnee was worried Sarah was going to be more loyal to Willow than her (which was probably true).

[Firewire]

It was Sarah's fault that Willow was evicted tbh. She could have just voted to save Willow, therefore sending Pilar home and two members of the diaper alliance out. Plus Brittnee was worried Sarah was going to be more loyal to Willow than her (which was probably true).

Exactly, it's not hard to understand :joker:

[Mokka]

I just said it's not about loving Willow more..... It's only my opinion

You say that... But that isn't the truth being shown :fan:

[Macie Lightfoot]

It was Sarah's fault that Willow was evicted tbh. She could have just voted to save Willow, therefore sending Pilar home and two members of the diaper alliance out. Plus Brittnee was worried Sarah was going to be more loyal to Willow than her (which was probably true).

Ashleigh was also acknowledging by that point that she would have no chance of beating Zach in the end IIRC. I could see how that would make it seem like she was less of a danger to have around than Willow. It kinda reminds me of the Shelli/Vanessa noms this year where regardless of what the "correct" decision was, Shelli didn't give the people in control anything to work with and kinda screwed herself over the process.

[LukeB]

You say that... But that isn't the truth being shown :fan:

It is actually, i don't know why it's a crime to dislike or say anything bad about Brittnee

[MB.]

-jumps off a building-

[Macie Lightfoot]

Another thing is that Ashleigh winning the F4 POV and evicting Brittnee literally has nothing to do with the triple eviction, those are two completely isolated events. Just because Brittnee was evicted by Ashleigh doesn't mean that it was the dumbest move ever to not nominate her. It's literally impossible to say how things would have played out if Ashleigh was nominated in the triple eviction because the events that happened afterwards would have been completely different. Brittnee could have been evicted before the F4 even, we just don't know.

[Mokka]

It is actually, i don't know why it's a crime to dislike or say anything bad about Brittnee

Because she was the Queen and she deserves to be worshipped :fan:

And b/c your arguments about her being a crap player only make sense to you and one other person

[LukeB]

And b/c your arguments about her being a crap player only make sense to you and one other person

Twitter was annoyed too that Willow was the replacement instead of Ashleigh :spin:

[Mokka]

Twitter was annoyed too that Willow was the replacement instead of Ashleigh :spin:

Omg... Well twitter is never wrong :idc:

[Firewire]

Twitter was annoyed too that Willow was the replacement instead of Ashleigh :spin:

I was annoyed by it because I liked Willow more. This doesn't strengthen your argument :joker:

[LukeB]

Omg... Well twitter is never wrong :idc:

Opinions are not right or wrong :spin:

[Marsh.]

Willow is a queen.

[Mokka]

Opinions are not right or wrong :spin:

Actually they can be both :smug:

And I am sure if you followed other twitter feeds, you would have found many cheering at Britt putting Willow on the block... I know I did :fan:

[Mokka]

Willow is a queen.

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[LukeB]

I'm not sorry for hating on "Queen Brittnee" who can't do anything wrong because she's perfect apparently. Just giving my opinion on the situation which i know Macie doesn't like

[Macie Lightfoot]

Twitter was annoyed when Julia was saying that John is a different person in the DR bc she heard him screaming from the living room :joker: Twitter doesn't mean ****

[Macie Lightfoot]

I'm not sorry for hating on "Queen Brittnee" who can't do anything wrong because she's perfect apparently. Just giving my opinion on the situation which i know Macie doesn't like

lmfao I don't know why you keep making this about me not liking your opinions when, again, I'm not even the most vocal person in this situation. And this isn't about Brittnee not being capable of doing anything wrong. It's about how you and Raph literally give her no credit for anything she did and have spent months slagging her off as dumb and one of the worst players ever, literally only because she's a recruit and because she took out your precious Willow (who I don't think you even cared about that much until she was evicted???)

I really don't give a **** if you don't like Brittnee, but stop trying to spin **** around about how dumb she is and this and that just because she did some things that YOU don't like. It's just like how you refuse to give Jon any credit for anything (like his social game, which you don't care about unless it's about how Brittnee's social game sucked) just because he took out your precious Neda, like how you think Maggie only won by luck because she beat your precious Janelle, etc. It's possible to evaluate how well someone plays the game independently of how much you like them as a HG.

[Pete.]

Maggie only won because Ivette was stupid!

[EspeonBB]

Maggie only won because Ivette was stupid!

Lol Ivette was so close to the $500k, all she had to do was throw the final HOH competition to Janelle and then she would be in the final 2 without being responsible for Maggie's eviction (Janelle was never going to take Maggie to the final 2). She'd have all the Nerd Herd votes which would have been enough to win.

Even then she was only one vote away but she left that ***** goodbye message to Rachel which made her vote for Maggie instead

[Pete.]

It's still a miracle how Janelle got so far in Season 6 (not that that's a bad thing at all)

[LukeB]

lmfao I don't know why you keep making this about me not liking your opinions when, again, I'm not even the most vocal person in this situation. And this isn't about Brittnee not being capable of doing anything wrong. It's about how you and Raph literally give her no credit for anything she did and have spent months slagging her off as dumb and one of the worst players ever, literally only because she's a recruit and because she took out your precious Willow (who I don't think you even cared about that much until she was evicted???) I really don't give a **** if you don't like Brittnee, but stop trying to spin **** around about how dumb she is and this and that just because she did some things that YOU don't like. It's just like how you refuse to give Jon any credit for anything (like his social game, which you don't care about unless it's about how Brittnee's social game sucked) just because he took out your precious Neda, like how you think Maggie only won by luck because she beat your precious Janelle, etc. It's possible to evaluate how well someone plays the game independently of how much you like them as a HG.


funny because you slag off people you don't like as well, People see things differently to others that's the reason of a debate because people have different views. We are giving her no credit for a reason, you can't make us give her credit. Credit has to be earned.. Willow wasn't a good player but atleast I can say bad stuff about my favourites and not flip out and make out it's a crime hating her, I don't like Brittnee.. she sucks, she made a silly move (most people do) and her social game sucked.

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[Firewire]

Legend B did not suck

[EspeonBB]

Why did Queen B suck? Because she was a recruit? :suspect:

[Macie Lightfoot]

I mean, I ****ing hate people like Andy Herren and Derrick Levasseur but I'm still able to acknowledge that they played good games. You slag Brittnee off because you think that recruits are fundamentally undeserving to play BB or whatever the **** and you're not willing to give her any credit for anything she did even though she probably has the best resume of her season? We're in an era of reality TV where you're supposed to make big moves or else you're not seen as a good player; padding your resume is very important. Look at what Natalie did in Survivor, etc.

[Pete.]

She sucked? Anyone that reaches the Final 4 must be doing something right...

[LukeB]

It's just my opinion :shrug:


Top 5 worst players

1.Pilar
2.Aneal
3.Peter
4.Paul
5.Graig

[Firewire]

Recruits are not as bad as they are made out to be. Some of my favourites have been recruits.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Recruits are gr8 because they're so much more likely to not worry and overthink things, they'll just say **** it and do something exciting or make a big move. Year after year we see all these superfans claim to be students of the game, and then all they do is talk about how it's too soon to make a big move and come up with all these convoluted backdoor schemes that result in nothing, and then they ended up getting hoisted by their own petard.

[EspeonBB]

Recruits are not as bad as they are made out to be. Some of my favourites have been recruits.

!

Some of the most legendary contestants like Janelle and Daniele Donato have been recruits. IDC if you're a huge superfan or someone who's never watched the show before, as long as you bring it, I'll like you.

[Firewire]

Recruits are gr8 because they're so much more likely to not worry and overthink things, they'll just say **** it and do something exciting or make a big move. Year after year we see all these superfans claim to be students of the game, and then all they do is talk about how it's too soon to make a big move and come up with all these convoluted backdoor schemes that result in nothing, and then they ended up getting hoisted by their own petard.

I agree completely

[Pete.]

Recruits are gr8 because they're so much more likely to not worry and overthink things, they'll just say **** it and do something exciting or make a big move. Year after year we see all these superfans claim to be students of the game, and then all they do is talk about how it's too soon to make a big move and come up with all these convoluted backdoor schemes that result in nothing, and then they ended up getting hoisted by their own petard.
:clap1:

[LukeB]

Anyway this Brittnee debate is boring because i'm not allowed to have an opinion on someone who is apparently perfect and can't do nothing wrong. If i feel it was a bad move then it's just my opinion because fact is people see things different to others so. can't expect everyone to love her.

[Liam-]

*Probably not the right place to be asking this but I cba looking through the BBcan section*

Would me catching up on this version be worth it or naw?

[Macie Lightfoot]

Seasons 1 and 2 are fantastic, I highly recommend them! 3's easily the weakest of the bunch but it's still a perfectly decent season and still way better than BBUS12-16

[Pete.]

*Probably not the right place to be asking this but I cba looking through the BBcan section*

Would me catching up on this version be worth it or naw?
Definitely!

[EspeonBB]

Seasons 1 and 2 are fantastic, I highly recommend them! 3's easily the weakest of the bunch but it's still a perfectly decent season and still way better than BBUS12-16

Yeah I would watch 1 & 2 and if you like those seasons then watch 3 too.

[Firewire]

1 and 2 were amazing. 3 had the best winner of the three so it has a good closure.

[Liam-]

Anyone know where I can watch them too? :flutter:

Ika is on season 2 right?

[LukeB]

1. Neda (BBCAN2) - Really mean person in many ways but boy did she control and run that game inside and out.
2. Emmett (BBCAN1) - Was never really a target despite winning so many competitions and being both a physical as well as mental threat. Outstanding social game.


BBCAN King and Queen of Social Game :flutter:

[LukeB]

1.Emmett
2.Neda
3.Sarah
4.Godfrey
5.Jillian (this was hard but she was in an showmance and won comps which made her a threat but she never faced eviction until the final 3)

Emmett due to him having a great social game and hardly faced eviction even though he was in a showmance with Jillian and was great at comps. Same with Jillian as well who never faced eviction until the finals tbh. This showmance dominated the game imo.

Neda who also had an amazing social game and had the game in her hands.


Sarah started off messy tbh but had a great social game, she's been a target and managed to get to the final 2.

I will write more tomorrow.

[JerseyWins]

Brittnee played a pretty good game. Not really socially but she did enough to survive and made big moves to get her in better positions, making up for her kinda lacking social game.

Putting up Willow wasn't that bad at all for Brittnee's individual game. It was bad for Sarah's... and Sarah made the mistake of being the deciding vote to send home Willow due to drastically over-thinking things. :joker:

[Raph]

Including BBCAN4..

1. Tim BBCAN4
2. Neda BBCAN2
3. Emmett BBCAN1
4. Godfrey BBCAN3
5. Zach BBCAN3

So potentially no winners, if Tim doesn't win :laugh:

[LukeB]

Including BBCAN4..

1. Tim BBCAN4
2. Neda BBCAN2
3. Emmett BBCAN1
4. Godfrey BBCAN3
5. Zach BBCAN3

So potentially no winners, if Tim doesn't win :laugh:

I would agree with this but Neda and Emmett over Tim.

[Raph]

I would agree with this but Neda and Emmett over Tim.

Tim coming out as the 'good guy' despite winning the veto and putting Joel/Cass at risk of going home shows how great of a player he is. If he ends up winning BBCAN4, i'd label him as the best player ever of BBCAN.

[Dominic]

Jillian/Gary
Jon
Sarah

thats it lol