Can we have a man out first please

[Jarvio]

Sick of it

[Niamh.]

Jarvio :love: One of these days it'll happen and then what will you do? :fan:

[Jarvio]

It already has happened. But not enough times. Plus, never, on the civilian series. Simon doesn't count because they ruined it by putting him back in.

[Niamh.]

he wasn't voted out either

[Liam-]

Why?

[Jarvio]

Cos I'm sick of the same old ****

[LukeB]

Girls always going first is boring now tbh

[Pete.]

We got David out first!

[Pete.]

But yes the women are always more entertaining yet they go out very early

[Lostie!]

Are you referring to CBB or civilian? Because the "female always leaves first" trend doesn't apply to CBB.

[LukeB]

But yes the women are always more entertaining yet they go out very early

I have this strange feeling the females will be strong this year :fc:

[Pete.]

I have this strange feeling the females will be strong this year :fc:
Team Janice!

[LukeB]

Team Janice!

My favourite Atomic Kitten is going in(well apprently) but I don't think she would be good as Janice so yeah Team Janice

[reece(:]

Get Bobby Davro out!

[LukeB]

Get Bobby Davro out!

The eastenders guy? here for him being the 1st out :clap2: or Stevie so Chloe(if they are going in) can be by herself

[reece(:]

The eastenders guy? here for him being the 1st out :clap2: or Stevie so Chloe(if they are going in) can be by herself
Yea the dull comedian, not here for tesco Cheggers.

[Cal.]

Most of the gals will be out in quick succession this year, majority are messes.

[Pete.]

The eastenders guy? here for him being the 1st out :clap2: or Stevie so Chloe(if they are going in) can be by herself
Yeah we need Stevie out first

[Pete.]

Yea the dull comedian, not here for tesco Cheggers.
Not a Cheggers revival

https://38.media.tumblr.com/a51d39d23df20b29deb4e005cf47d4e1/tumblr_nsxsennKj61qk7scno1_400.gif

[Jarvio]

We got David out first!

David McIntosh, Andrew Stone, Chris Eubank, Goldie. The only 4 men that have ever been out first via public vote.

(Not counting John McRirick, as that was UBB).

[reece(:]

Yeah we need Stevie out first
He will be dull too.

[armand.kay]

its cbb men have left first before

[Jarvio]

its cbb men have left first before

As I said - not many, and not enough.

[Ashley.]

Bobby Davro will be first out, depending on how this "twist" goes down. He'll annoy everyone.

Here for an all-female-winning 2015 tbh

[Lostie!]

As I said - not many, and not enough.

A man shouldn't leave first simply because he's a man. :laugh:

[Marsh.]

The "women always out first curse" has never applied to CBB anyway.

[Marsh.]

As I said - not many, and not enough.

:unsure: Why not enough? What actual difference does it make?

As long as the first housemate out is either a bore or a housemate I don't like, I don't care whether they're male or female.

[Jason.]

As long as the first housemate out is either a bore or a housemate I don't like, I don't care whether they're male or female.

tbh :clap2:

[Ant.]

:unsure: Why not enough? What actual difference does it make?

As long as the first housemate out is either a bore or a housemate I don't like, I don't care whether they're male or female.

^^
It's whoever is entertaining, it sounds like people would want a big male personality out instead of a boring woman, just so a woman isn't out first, just get rid of the bores (It's VTS so it's likely the big characters will go far anyway)

[Jarvio]

^^
It's whoever is entertaining, it sounds like people would want a big male personality out instead of a boring woman, just so a woman isn't out first, just get rid of the bores (It's VTS so it's likely the big characters will go far anyway)

So you're telling me that 4 male first evictees out of FIFTEEN has nothing to do with gender?
I'm sorry, but gender does have something to do with it. Males are ALWAYS at an advantage. It has little to do with the "character".

If it has nothing to do with gender, then how the hell has a woman gone first EVERY time on civilian BB? For over 15 ****ing years?

It's sexist, but people on here are too afraid to admit it.

[Liam-]

It's not even on-season yet

[Shaun]

gotta love the "he'll be dull!!" posts before the series has even started

[Ant.]

So you're telling me that 4 male first evictees out of FIFTEEN has nothing to do with gender?
I'm sorry, but gender does have something to do with it. Males are ALWAYS at an advantage. It has little to do with the "character".

If it has nothing to do with gender, then how the hell has a woman gone first EVERY time on civilian BB? For over 15 ****ing years?

It's sexist, but people on here are too afraid to admit it.

The case for the 'curse' is that women are either the only people up for eviction or that they're too controversial and outspeak the boring males (just an observation, but a lot of the females are bigger characters than the males, who tend to be on the boring side)

For the past two years, it's only ever been women up for the first eviction (also BB1, BB2, and BB8), so it was pretty much default that a woman would be evicted first
As I said previously, the only other reason I can think of is the fact that they're too big of characters, which people really don't like (it'd be interesting to see the voting percentages for Dexter, Gina, and Sallie, considering they were all big characters that clashed in that first week)

If we went back to VTS in the Civillian series, then maybe we'd see a boring male go over a big female character. Women like Sallie and Adjoa (I don't understand what she did that warranted boos, besides talking about 'pussy') are far more remembered than the rest of their housemates, meanwhile the men are easily forgot about (and the men that actually do something are evicted asap, e.g. Marc)

I don't understand a lot of the public's choices (Helen winning, for example), but I doubt that the public decide to pick up the phone because someone's a woman.

[Lostie!]

So you're telling me that 4 male first evictees out of FIFTEEN has nothing to do with gender?
I'm sorry, but gender does have something to do with it. Males are ALWAYS at an advantage. It has little to do with the "character".

If it has nothing to do with gender, then how the hell has a woman gone first EVERY time on civilian BB? For over 15 ****ing years?

It's sexist, but people on here are too afraid to admit it.

And actively wanting a male out first (before the series has even started) solely on the basis that he's a male isn't?

[Jarvio]

And actively wanting a male out first (before the series has even started) solely on the basis that he's a male isn't?

Yes, but for 1 I admit it, and for 2, I'm only being sexist as a result of sexism in the first place. It's called countering.

[LaLaLand]

Not here 4 Davro hate, man's a legend.

[Niamh.]

But yes the women are always more entertaining yet they go out very early


That's why though because they provoke more of a reaction, that's a good thing

[Ashley.]

gotta love the "he'll be dull!!" posts before the series has even started

I'm good at predicting. They don't call me "Ashley, That Girl Who Is Good At Predicting" for nothing

[Calderyon]

Can we have a bad housemate out first, regardless of it´s a male or a female?

[Jarvio]

There have been many male HMs than have been "bigger characters" than many female HMs (and vice-versa). There have also been many male HMs that have been "bigger bores" than many female HMs (and vice-versa). My point is, there is no correlation between gender and HM quality.

Yet, somehow, a woman has gone first nearly every time. In over 15 years. Yes, I stick by what I said - it's sexist.

[Marsh.]

So you're telling me that 4 male first evictees out of FIFTEEN has nothing to do with gender?
I'm sorry, but gender does have something to do with it. Males are ALWAYS at an advantage. It has little to do with the "character".

If it has nothing to do with gender, then how the hell has a woman gone first EVERY time on civilian BB? For over 15 ****ing years?

It's sexist, but people on here are too afraid to admit it.

Looking at the list of our civilian first evictees since 2000, 90% of them were the worst in the house so it's not surprising AT ALL.

[Daniel-X]

As much as I usually prefer females this thread I can't help but feel is really ridiculous and sexist. Get a bore out first or a bad HM not just someone because they're guilty of having a penis and not a vagina

[Cherie]

Sick of it

Even if the men are more interesting and have more potential as HMs than all the women?

[Jarvio]

As much as I usually prefer females this thread I can't help but feel is really ridiculous and sexist. Get a bore out first or a bad HM not just someone because they're guilty of having a penis and not a vagina

Well I wouldn't have to be "Sexist" if the voting public weren't on a whole sexist for 15 years. Plus, many women are voted off just for having a vagina.

If the first evictees were more balanced between men and women then I wouldn't have made this thread. But because the vast majority are women, I am not convinced that it is anything but sexism.

[Cherie]

As much as I usually prefer females this thread I can't help but feel is really ridiculous and sexist. Get a bore out first or a bad HM not just someone because they're guilty of having a penis and not a vagina

Completely agree apart from preferring females, I like both sexes

[Jarvio]

C'mon people, it hasn't happened in over 15 years on civilian series. I have a case here.

[Cherie]

As much as I usually prefer females this thread I can't help but feel is really ridiculous and sexist. Get a bore out first or a bad HM not just someone because they're guilty of having a penis and not a vagina

C'mon people, it hasn't happened in over 15 years on civilian series. I have a case here.

You might have if we were heading for a civilian series...

[Denver]

Here for a all male final

[Marsh.]

Yes, but for 1 I admit it, and for 2, I'm only being sexist as a result of sexism in the first place. It's called countering.

It's called hypocritical.

[Jarvio]

It's called hypocritical.

Not really, not when it's happened so few times in 15 years.

[Ant.]

Looking at the list of our civilian first evictees since 2000, 90% of them were the worst in the house so it's not surprising AT ALL.

This
There were a few good first evictees, the rest were terrible.

It's called hypocritical.

.

[Marsh.]

Not really, not when it's happened so few times in 15 years.

Yes, it is.

It's a fact that your attitude is hypocritical. :)

[Ant.]

If every first evictee was male then this wouldn't be a problem

Jarvio, do you vote? And if you do, do you vote because the housemate is a man or because they're unlikeable/a bore/uninteresting etc.?

[Ashley.]

Looking at the list of our civilian first evictees since 2000, 90% of them were the worst in the house so it's not surprising AT ALL.

Bonnie best be in that 10%

[Mitchell]

Can we have Austin out first?

[Ashley.]

Can we have Austin out first?

he's a good looking male, why on earth would people vote him out

[Marsh.]

Bonnie best be in that 10%

Sorry but she was the worst of BB7 week 1. :(

[Ashley.]

Sorry but she was the worst of BB7 week 1. :(

Ask me what Glyn did in Week 1

[Marsh.]

Ask me what Glyn did in Week 1

He spoke.

1-0 to Glyn. :hmph:

[Ashley.]

He spoke.

1-0 to Glyn. :hmph:

Um Bonnie vs. Lisa was iconic

Bonnie: "I want me suitcase"
Lisa: "Stop being a twat with meh"
Bonnie:
Lisa:

[Marsh.]

Um Bonnie vs. Lisa was iconic

Bonnie: "I want me suitcase"
Lisa: "Stop being a twat with meh"
Bonnie:
Lisa:

:joker:

[Mitchell]

he's a good looking male, why on earth would people vote him out

Tell that to David McIntosh

[Jarvio]

he's a good looking male, why on earth would people vote him out

So you also admit that it's all sexist.

[Black Dagger]

If they are terrible/dull they should go. Not just because they have a dick.

How ridiculous.

[Jarvio]

If they are terrible/dull they should go. Not just because they have a dick.

How ridiculous.

How ridiculous that people don't think I have a case, when it's happened year after year for 15 ****ing years.

Also, Andrew Stone is the only ever white male out first. So BB is also racist.

[Jarvio]

Looking at the list of our civilian first evictees since 2000, 90% of them were the worst in the house so it's not surprising AT ALL.

So you're telling me that it's just a coincidence that they've ALL been women?

[Black Dagger]

Oh I wondered when Race would be brought up. Yawn.

[Jarvio]

The female thing is no coincidence.

[Niamh.]

So you're telling me that it's just a coincidence that they've ALL been women?

Alot of times it's only been or mostly been women up as well though so it seems like the HMs prefer to nominate women too

[Black Dagger]

Yeah it's totally shocking that the women who got evicted first happened to be gob****es or had other negative personality traits. Wow so shocking that the public would evict them. Wow.

[Jarvio]

Yeah it's totally shocking that the women who got evicted first happened to be gob****es or had other negative personality traits. Wow so shocking that the public would evict them. Wow.

So did god knows how many of the men.

You seriously can't be this deluded?

[Black Dagger]

What's delusional about noticing that women first evictees get themselves evicted for acting a bit twatty and putting themselves at the forefront of the show. There have been loads of just female vs female first evictions as well. So you are bound to lose them. Plus a lot of the time they've gone up against males who go onto either win or make the final.

But stick with your "oooh women are so hard done by on this show" when in reality the CBB on C5 formula has taken out it's fair share of males in a first eviction.

Who cares for Sally Bercow? Jasmine Lennard was a gob****e (and it was a female eviction anyway), Paula was robbed that we can admit </333 (but so was Andrew Stone so idc) and Chloe was an absolute bellend, so it was warranted.

[Cherie]

Same old gripes different season, these views have been aired endlessly every season, it's incredibly tiresome

[Jarvio]

Plus a lot of the time they've gone up against males who go onto either win or make the final.


Mario BB9.

Also, I'm not convinced. The numbers are too much for it not to be sexist.

[Jarvio]

Same old gripes different season, these views have been aired endlessly every season, it's incredibly tiresome

I keep having to make the same old gripes because the same old crap keeps happening! A woman going first every time is "incredibly tiresome"!

[Black Dagger]

Mario BB9.

Also, I'm not convinced. The numbers are too much for it not to be sexist.

Hence "a lot of the time" and not "everytime"

[Cherie]

I keep having to make the same old gripes because the same old crap keeps happening! A woman going first every time is "incredibly tiresome"!

Why give your support to a show that you consider both racist and sexist?

[Jarvio]

Why give your support to a show that you consider both racist and sexist?

That's a valid question I'll give you that

[Ant.]

Mario BB9.

Also, I'm not convinced. The numbers are too much for it not to be sexist.

Then pick up the phone and vote for men if it bothers you so much, the fact of that matter is, in a VTE, the bores (the men, take Danny, Cristian, Ash, Pav, and Winston, who are the most recent bores) survive because big characters (which are mostly female, you can't deny that) stir up a lot of controversy which consequently makes people want to evict them. No one is going to pick up the phone and spend 50p to evict someone based on the sole fact that they're a woman ffs
If it was flipped around and it was that all the first evictees were male, I highly doubt you'd be claiming it's sexist - because it's not. The only thing that's sexist is you.

[Jarvio]

Then pick up the phone and vote for men if it bothers you so much, the fact of that matter is, in a VTE, the bores (the men, take Danny, Cristian, Ash, Pav, and Winston, who are the most recent bores) survive because big characters (which are mostly female, you can't deny that) stir up a lot of controversy which consequently makes people want to evict them. No one is going to pick up the phone and spend 50p to evict someone based on the sole fact that they're a woman ffs
If it was flipped around and it was that all the first evictees were male, I highly doubt you'd be claiming it's sexist - because it's not. The only thing that's sexist is you.

Your talking out of your booty.

Yes people do vote based on gender. Jealous women, for instance.

Also, you can't say most of the big characters are women - it's about equal.

Once again, so many females being out first is no coincidence.

[Lostie!]

Your talking out of your booty.

Yes people do vote based on gender. Jealous women, for instance.

Also, you can't say most of the big characters are women - it's about equal.

Once again, so many females being out first is no coincidence.

You being one of them, apparently.

My issue is that you're claiming to have an issue with the apparent sexism in the voting, yet your response is ... more sexism. Are you really in a position to be angered by something that you yourself wish to be a part of (just towards the different sex)?

[Marsh.]

How ridiculous that people don't think I have a case, when it's happened year after year for 15 ****ing years.

Also, Andrew Stone is the only ever white male out first. So BB is also racist.

So you're telling me that it's just a coincidence that they've ALL been women?

:joker:

[Jarvio]

:joker:

You know for a fact that I refer to CBB in one post and civilian BB in another

[Shaun]

No1curr

[Marsh.]

You know for a fact that I refer to CBB in one post and civilian BB in another

Yes, because that's what I was laughing at.

[Cherie]

That's a valid question I'll give you that

Thank you :laugh:

[Ant.]

Your talking out of your booty.

Yes people do vote based on gender. Jealous women, for instance.

Also, you can't say most of the big characters are women - it's about equal.

Once again, so many females being out first is no coincidence.

You're* ok sorry thanks

There's probably a maximum of three men that'll vote a woman out because she has a vagina and like maybe 3 women voting out a woman because they're jealous (???) and one of you voting out a man because he has a penis.

It's a matter of opinion but I really don't see how it's equal. You could make a list of ten big female characters from the past three years alone (Helen, Toya, Ashleigh, Jade, Pauline, Sarah, Harriet, Harry Amelia, Gina, Hazel and more), while the only big male characters in C5 have been Marc, Dexter, Aaron (BB12) and Conor. Marc was evicted in a VTE at the first possible chance and Conor and Aaron avoided eviction because it was a VTS and people vote for the big characters to save

It isn't a coincidence, you're right, because there have been numerous occasions it's been women only up for the first eviction, and the rest of the time the first evictees were terrible. Of course, some were robbed (Adjoa </3) and I'd rather a boring man had gone instead (my hatred for Jack grew when he saved Cristian from the first eviction) but a lot of the first evictees were terrible and looking back it's no surprise they were evicted

[Babayaro.]

I can't wait for a female to leave the house next Tuesday

[Ant.]

I can't wait for a female to leave the house next Tuesday

I can't wait for the uproar

[Jarvio]

I can't wait for a female to leave the house next Tuesday

Why? It will only mean more negative threads from me.

[bots]

i don't care, the most entertaining ones will remain, and that's all that matters

[JoshBB]

There does seem to be a trend of women going first, even when they're big characters and most of the men are boring yet stay for a long time (eg. last 2 years of bb), whether it has something to do with the viewers being sexist I don't know.

There's also an imbalance with shirtlessness criticism I've noticed too, woman gets her boobs out and its "slag!!!!! this girl is a slut! vote her out", yet the guys do it throughout each episode and nobody really says a thing.

[Mystic Mock]

Girls always going first is boring now tbh

Tbf in the last Civilian series though the Housemates that was up was three girls, the public couldn't magically vote out a man when they're not even an option.:laugh:

[Mystic Mock]

I keep having to make the same old gripes because the same old crap keeps happening! A woman going first every time is "incredibly tiresome"!

Thank god you don't watch TXF where pretty white girls get abused for saying boo.:joker:

[Ant.]

Tbf in the last Civilian series though the Housemates that was up was three girls, the public couldn't magically vote out a man when they're not even an option.:laugh:

As well as BB15, BB8, BB2, BB1


Are housemates sexist for nominating women? :omgno:

[Mystic Mock]

As well as BB15, BB8, BB2, BB1


Are housemates sexist for nominating women? :omgno:

We've named 5 series out of 16 Civilian series that have been made though.

There was still 11 series for the public to not vote out a woman first and they still did it anyway, they even saved Conor in BB13.:omgno:

[reece(:]

No justice for the femme fatales

[Jarvio]

We've named 5 series out of 16 Civilian series that have been made though.

There was still 11 series for the public to not vote out a woman first and they still did it anyway, they even saved Conor in BB13.:omgno:

Yes, exactly.

As I've said numerous times - the numbers are too big. I am CONVINCED it is down to sexism.

[Ant.]

Yes, exactly.

As I've said numerous times - the numbers are too big. I am CONVINCED it is down to sexism.

Maybe it's just because most of them were/are hated and controversial?
If the roles were reversed and it was a man out first every time, would you really be screaming 'sexism'?
No, because it's not sexist, and the fact a woman has been out first every time is not sexist either.

If you want to vote out a big male character (good luck finding one because nearly all of the men have been bores) and save a boring woman instead (who will contribute nothing) just because they're a man, then go ahead, but don't go preaching about how a show is sexist if you're going to be sexist.

We've named 5 series out of 16 Civilian series that have been made though.

There was still 11 series for the public to not vote out a woman first and they still did it anyway, they even saved Conor in BB13.:omgno:

It was Vote to Save, of course Conor would've been saved

[Jarvio]

Maybe it's just because most of them were/are hated and controversial?
If the roles were reversed and it was a man out first every time, would you really be screaming 'sexism'?
No, because it's not sexist, and the fact a woman has been out first every time is not sexist either.

If you want to vote out a big male character (good luck finding one because nearly all of the men have been bores) and save a boring woman instead (who will contribute nothing) just because they're a man, then go ahead, but don't go preaching about how a show is sexist if you're going to be sexist.



It was Vote to Save, of course Conor would've been saved

Conor did nothing that first week.