UK Schools if you have a mobile phone in a lesson it must be Turned Off

[arista]

Thats so simple


Now Any Child that Turns on their Mobile
must be Expelled


Make it dead clear to these Brats
You put your Phone On while in a lesson
you get Expelled

Why the Hell is this not going on now.


Ref : SkyNewsHD Paper Review

[Ammi]

..is there a link..?..

[arista]

..is there a link..?..


It was in a Paper
sorry did not catch the paper name



I'm sure you agree with this
for schools.

[lostalex]

but what if they need to text one of their friends because they are bored?

[kirklancaster]

but what if they need to text one of their friends because they are bored?

:laugh:

[arista]

but what if they need to text one of their friends because they are bored?


If they dare to do that,


Expel them.

[kirklancaster]

If they dare to do that,


Expel them.

SHOOT the little twots :laugh:

[lostalex]

i think it's better to keep phones in the class room. It's important to have as many cameras as possible just in case there is a problem, that way there is more evidence.

[lewis111]

The world is moving on and phone's are a new quicker way to gather information.
If all phones are on desks so the teacher can see, and the kids are using them to collect notes etc. instead of listening completely uninterested to a teacher go on and on then I think they are a great thing.

[Kizzy]

i think it's better to keep phones in the class room. It's important to have as many cameras as possible just in case there is a problem, that way there is more evidence.

You can't assume every classroom is a potential crime scene :/

[lostalex]

You can't assume every classroom is a potential crime scene :/

I think it's always important to keep authority figures in check.

plus if they record it, it can help them with their notes, if they missed any part of the lesson.

[Denver]

Phones are there to help people cheat they should be banned in schools alltogether

[Liam-]

My school allowed teachers to take student's phones off them over the weekend if they were caught using them, all though the rule was no phones, they were lenient on that rule, they turned a blind eye on people having phones in school, but only came down on them if they started taking the piss, like texting in class or just generally taking advantage of the situation, that's the best way to be imo

[arista]

The world is moving on and phone's are a new quicker way to gather information.
If all phones are on desks so the teacher can see, and the kids are using them to collect notes etc. instead of listening completely uninterested to a teacher go on and on then I think they are a great thing.


No
All Phones Turned OFF in lessons

Get It.

[arista]

Phones are there to help people cheat they should be banned in schools alltogether



Yes Adam


But its only in every lesson they must be turned off,
the Mobile Phones will not be banned from school
as outside of lessons their mum may give them
a shopping text list

[lewis111]

No
All Phones Turned OFF in lessons

Get It.

We need to keep looking at ways to improve education and phones seems the best solution. When listening to teacher or using un updated test books from the 1980s kids get bored and do not take information in, yes it needs to be the case some of the time, but using technology in class is a more efficient way of gathering information.
If phones are on silent and visible to the teacher there is no problem with them.
People probably said the same when discussing brining computers and laptops into schools and they've turned out great brining in new subjects and new ways to learn, phones could do the same

[Kizzy]

I think it's always important to keep authority figures in check.

plus if they record it, it can help them with their notes, if they missed any part of the lesson.

Teachers aren't an enemy to be monitored... Why would you miss any part of the lesson, if you were distracted by a mobile phone for instance?

[Ninastar]

i remember the day i got caught playing tap tap revenge in ICT on my iPod and had it taken away from me. i had to get a signature and go collect it from head office. i was well nervous

[JoshBB]

Expelled?? You'll be seeing a hell of a lot of kids without GCSEs if you did that arista..

At our school if we're seen using it's taken away from us (and sometimes given detention), and then we get it back after 1 day, then on second time after a week, then a month, it builds up..

Even then I think that's harsh because some lessons let us use them, eg. as a timer in science.

[JoshBB]

smh double post

[Daniel-X]

Expelled is ridiculous personally I turn mine off in school but occasionally I need to make a quick text to my mum or something saying I'm going into town so won't be at home.

I've only ever had my phone taken off me once because I was caught texting in IT but at my school they just give you an hour detention with your HOY and your mum or dad has to go and pick it up from the main office

[lewis111]

Yall schools are so harsh if were caught on our phones they're just like "put it away please" probably not very sufficient but oh well

[Jack_]

Expelled?? You'll be seeing a hell of a lot of kids without GCSEs if you did that arista..

At our school if we're seen using it's taken away from us (and sometimes given detention), and then we get it back after 1 day, then on second time after a week, then a month, it builds up..

Even then I think that's harsh because some lessons let us use them, eg. as a timer in science.

I always find rules like this astounding and actually pretty out of order. Confiscating a phone for the remainder of the day is understandable and above board, but surely there's got to be some legal issues with withholding someone's property (especially if the student happens to have actually bought it themselves) for such lengthy amounts of time? It's effectively theft.

I would find it hilarious to hear one day of a story in which a student has taken a school to court and won over an incident like this.

[Ashley.]

I never really used my phone in school (plus they didn't really come about until later) but I ALWAYS kept it on just in case someone needed to contact me urgently. I hate having my phone turned off purely for this reason.

[JoshBB]

I always find rules like this astounding and actually pretty out of order. Confiscating a phone for the remainder of the day is understandable and above board, but surely there's got to be some legal issues with withholding someone's property (especially if the student happens to have actually bought it themselves) for such lengthy amounts of time? It's effectively theft.

I would find it hilarious to hear one day of a story in which a student has taken a school to court and won over an incident like this.

Yeah I find it really unfair too, I'd say around half the teachers tend to turn a blind eye or just discretely say "put it away or it'll be confiscated", to which people usually do..

but they have no right to take property tbh. To the end of the day, fine.. but the thing is most of the time people have their phones taken when they're in the canteen before school hours, like they're not even in a lesson...

[the truth]

turn them off or kick them out of class....if it keeps happening 1 warning, then expel.....teachers can utilise technology at their discretion to teach the kids not the other way around , theres compuers everywhere to access information when necessary. the teachers can if they so wish allow kids to access their phones if and when they deem it beneficial to the subject being taight, otherwise and be gone

[user104658]

Or get a signal blocker for the school, and turn it off at interval and lunch time. Very simple solution. Of course they wouldn't do that, because then the teachers wouldn't be able to sit posting on facebook... ;)

[lewis111]

Being expelled for using a phone in school is ridiculous. I fiend detention a far too harsh punishment for it. Expell is for threatening and physical and mental violence.
Times have changed education is moving on schools aren't throwing expells left right and centre and phones can be a good way for learning

[smudgie]

No phones out of the school bag.
We all managed to survive without them.
Make it a golden rule and suspend the beggars that break it, to expel them seems a tad harsh.

[arista]

Expelled?? You'll be seeing a hell of a lot of kids without GCSEs if you did that arista..

At our school if we're seen using it's taken away from us (and sometimes given detention), and then we get it back after 1 day, then on second time after a week, then a month, it builds up..

Even then I think that's harsh because some lessons let us use them, eg. as a timer in science.


NO you kids learn the New Rule
its that simple.

[arista]

No phones out of the school bag.
We all managed to survive without them.
Make it a golden rule and suspend the beggars that break it, to expel them seems a tad harsh.


They Roll their Dice.

[arista]

Being expelled for using a phone in school is ridiculous. I fiend detention a far too harsh punishment for it. Expell is for threatening and physical and mental violence.
Times have changed education is moving on schools aren't throwing expells left right and centre and phones can be a good way for learning


NO you kids will learn Rules

Leave you phone Turned Off in a Lesson
its so bleeding simple

[lewis111]

NO you kids will learn Rules

Leave you phone Turned Off in a Lesson
its so bleeding simple

So if a kid forgets and their phone goes offtough luck?? No education for a tiny mistake that affected the education and life of no one
That's the host bonkers idea ever. Kids aren't some test rats and if they're not perfect the get chucked away

[Tom4784]

It's silly and archaic. Any teacher would have had a game of it if they tried to take my phone off me. I wouldn't trust the school to keep it safe.

Phones should be used in classes as they can be wonderful tools for learning. The only rules rearding phones that should be in place is that they should be on silent in lessons, you can't call or text anyone in class unless it's an emergency and phones shouldn't be present in exams. Anything else is pointless.

[Ammi]

It's silly and archaic. Any teacher would have had a game of it if they tried to take my phone off me. I wouldn't trust the school to keep it safe.

Phones should be used in classes as they can be wonderful tools for learning. The only rules rearding phones that should be in place is that they should be on silent in lessons, you can't call or text anyone in class unless it's an emergency and phones shouldn't be present in exams. Anything else is pointless.

...yeah, pretty much this which is pretty much the rule in many schools atm anyway..I reckon it's all just silly OFSTED stuff to think about banning them.../which I doubt would happen...

[JoshBB]

NO you kids learn the New Rule
its that simple.

Just because it's a rule doesn't mean it has to be that way.

[arista]

Just because it's a rule doesn't mean it has to be that way.



New Rules
Follow them

Or Walk out

[arista]

It's silly and archaic. Any teacher would have had a game of it if they tried to take my phone off me. I wouldn't trust the school to keep it safe.

Phones should be used in classes as they can be wonderful tools for learning. The only rules rearding phones that should be in place is that they should be on silent in lessons, you can't call or text anyone in class unless it's an emergency and phones shouldn't be present in exams. Anything else is pointless.


No Dezzy - Turn them all OFF


Those kids will get New 10" Tablets
to get Extra help from



No they will not be Silent
They will Be Turned off in Every Lesson


Dezzy you are 100% Out Of Touch

[arista]

So if a kid forgets and their phone goes offtough luck?? No education for a tiny mistake that affected the education and life of no one
That's the host bonkers idea ever. Kids aren't some test rats and if they're not perfect the get chucked away


No before the lesson starts the teacher
confirms all 30 kids
have now turned their phones off.


No room for your sneak mistake

[lewis111]

No Dezzy - Turn them all OFF


Those kids will get New 10" Tablets
to get Extra help from



No they will not be Silent
They will Be Turned off in Every Lesson


Dezzy you are 100% Out Of Touch

You're just stating the Sam etching over and over again andnneverbgiving any facts to back up your point despite many being used in the opposing view
As a person who is currently in school, I can say they bring much more positive than negative education wise

[lewis111]

No before the lesson starts the teacher
confirms all 30 kids
have now turned their phones off.


No room for your sneak mistake

I've never once witnessed that, it can be an easy mistake to make

[arista]

I've never once witnessed that, it can be an easy mistake to make


No room for Mistakes
its New checking every pupil has phoned turned off
in a lesson.

Its Time to Stop these kids taking the piss
by ignoring the Teacher while texting on a Phone

Expel them
that will stop the brats

[T*]

Yeah this isn't happening tbh
Maybe sanctioned but no way expelled

[lewis111]

No room for Mistakes
its New checking every pupil has phoned turned off
in a lesson.

Its Time to Stop these kids taking the piss
by ignoring the Teacher while texting on a Phone

Expel them
that will stop the brats

The main downside of a phone goinf off in class in it takes 10 seconds of concentration or teaching time away. So checking everyone's phone, which takes 10 timees the amount of time, is a sufficent way of avoiding those consequences

Oh god what BRATS they are, you know just kill them all, kill all kids taht way there will be 0 chance of any phones going off in class

[Nedusa]

I can't believe these devices are not already banned in all classrooms. They are so distracting and completely unnecessary in a classroom or lecture theatre .

Ban them in all schools in UK

[arista]

The main downside of a phone goinf off in class in it takes 10 seconds of concentration or teaching time away. So checking everyone's phone, which takes 10 timees the amount of time, is a sufficent way of avoiding those consequences

Oh god what BRATS they are, you know just kill them all, kill all kids taht way there will be 0 chance of any phones going off in class

Thats Fine it can all be worked out
before the start of the lesson
also Teacher says Turn Off Now
they all do it.

Any that do not
he or she will find them


No Room for any Brat Errors

[Jason.]

I've never heard anything about this rule.

In the school I work in, students are allowed phones, but they must be turned off and not used in the classrooms during lessons or inside the school buildings. You're only allowed to use a phone on school grounds and on the field like during break times and lunch times, if that makes sense. Although, I've noticed some teachers allow students to use their phones for research or to take a picture of the homework on the board at the end of the lesson, instead of copying it down, things like that. If a student is caught using a phone in class or it goes off during a lesson, then the student must hand it to a teacher and the phone is confiscated till the end of the lesson. Some really strict teachers keep the phone and hand it to the HOY and the students parents must pick it up for them. It was the same when I was in school ten years ago. But whenever a phone goes off in one my lessons, I just ask who's phone was ringing and tell them to turn it off. I don't do confiscations, cause I cba for it really. Being expelled seems like an OTT rule though. Confiscations and sanctions fair enough, but being kicked out for it is surely taking the piss.

[arista]

"I've never heard anything about this rule. "


Yes its going to be a New Rule
I hope Ammi follows it to the letter

[Ammi]

"I've never heard anything about this rule. "


Yes its going to be a New Rule
I hope Ammi follows it to the letter

...:laugh:..I work in a Primary school, Arista...many of the children don't have mobiles and with the ones who do..?..they generally only bring them to school if they're going home alone ...but mobiles in Upper schools are a good learning asset in classrooms and I think should stay right where they are...

[Brother Leon]

This was the case when I was in school....not that anyone followed it anyway.

[the truth]

good learning asset? what a load of trolling
texting back and forth with mates , endless distraction

turn them off and learn the subjects...theres computers to help with finding information..

[Ammi]

...well, it's often said...'life skills' is the thing and should be a concentration in schools and there is no more a huge part of life than a mobile phone..so banning them would seem the most dumb thing and would teach nothing of a 'life skill' there..it's more allowing them and teaching when it's appropriate/not appropriate to use it in school...

[Nedusa]

good learning asset? what a load of trolling
texting back and forth with mates , endless distraction

turn them off and learn the subjects...theres computers to help with finding information..

Totally agree... In fact I cannot any sensible argument for allowing pupils to have these devices in their possession when they are in the classroom. They provide a source of constant distraction and irritation to teachers.

They should be banned from all classrooms without exception.

[Ammi]

Totally agree... In fact I cannot any sensible argument for allowing pupils to have these devices in their possession when they are in the classroom. They provide a source of constant distraction and irritation to teachers.
They should be banned from all classrooms without exception.

..and also Nedusa though..a 'cause of distraction' in many areas of life for adults and in many situations so it's also to teach a discipline in using them and making anything a 'taboo' never does that...

[arista]

...well, it's often said...'life skills' is the thing and should be a concentration in schools and there is no more a huge part of life than a mobile phone..so banning them would seem the most dumb thing and would teach nothing of a 'life skill' there..it's more allowing them and teaching when it's appropriate/not appropriate to use it in school...


But its only while the Lesson is going
They will learn better controlled things on a 10" Tablet
given to all kids while is some lessons

[arista]

...:laugh:..I work in a Primary school, Arista...many of the children don't have mobiles and with the ones who do..?..they generally only bring them to school if they're going home alone ...but mobiles in Upper schools are a good learning asset in classrooms and I think should stay right where they are...


Thats Good
they will learn the Rule
turn off while Teacher speaks.

They will save their power
and as some have them for safety going home
this is a good thing

[Ammi]

But its only while the Lesson is going
They will learn better controlled things on a 10" Tablet
given to all kids while is some lessons

..ok so we'll ban them from streets only while people are walking so they're not distracted and don't bump into anyone...we'll ban them from restaurants while people are eating with others and shouldn't be distracted by their phones...etc etc....it teaches more of a self discipline lesson to have them and teaches far more of a 'life skill' than banning them would...very few schools would have the funding to provide enough tablets needed...

[arista]

..ok so we'll ban them from streets only while people are walking so they're not distracted and don't bump into anyone...we'll ban them from restaurants while people are eating with others and shouldn't be distracted by their phones...etc etc....it teaches more of a self discipline lesson to have them and teaches far more of a 'life skill' than banning them would...very few schools would have the funding to provide enough tablets needed...

No
its OK to bump into people.


They are not Outright Banned
only once the Teacher starts the lesson
It makes good sense.

[Ammi]

..it would make so little sense for teachers to spend lesson time, checking if mobile phones are all switched off..so, so little sense...

[arista]

..it would make so little sense for teachers to spend lesson time, checking if mobile phones are all switched off..so, so little sense...


They turn off in Unity
that speeds it up.
The Teacher checking is fine

[Ammi]

They turn off in Unity
that speeds it up.
The Teacher checking is fine

..and how would it be known that they had 'turned off in unity' without checks being done and lesson time being taken up for those checks..and then of course, looking at individual reasons and explanations why a pupil may need to have their phone switched on at a particular time etc...while all the while OFSTED also insisting on statistic attainments/targets as well to be reached so all lesson time is important to be dedicated to the lesson subject...mobile phones are a fact of life and so is self discipline so a far better thing to teach..let's not as they say, produce 'drones' in our schools..let's teach them to use their own initiative etc...

[arista]

They will get it in place
and Unity is essential in a Class

Mobile Phones will not be banned
Only in a lesson.

Its the sensible way forward

[Ammi]

They will get it in place
and Unity is essential in a Class

Mobile Phones will not be banned
Only in a lesson.

Its the sensible way forward

..nope, 'forward' is accepting the biggest communication technology of today and 'sensible' is helping to teach self discipline and appropriate times etc in usage...'taboo' is a very 'backward' thought process..


... life in the fast lane, Arista....'life lessons' to be taught, not banned..


...anyways, enjoy your day and happy usage of your mobile phone...

[arista]

..nope, 'forward' is accepting the biggest communication technology of today and 'sensible' is helping to teach self discipline and appropriate times etc in usage...'taboo' is a very 'backward' thought process..


... life in the fast lane, Arista....'life lessons' to be taught, not banned..


...anyways, enjoy your day and happy usage of your mobile phone...


Yes all schools should get the 10" Tablet
bought in massive bulk they cost very little
one system
that will show kids the right way to go.

[Nedusa]

..and also Nedusa though..a 'cause of distraction' in many areas of life for adults and in many situations so it's also to teach a discipline in using them and making anything a 'taboo' never does that...

I think the teachers have a tough enough job to do in trying to teach a class of 25 unruly adolescents without trying to coax them to learn not to use their phones.

The classroom should be a phone free environment , it should be accepted as such from the beginning . No phones allowed in places of teaching a simple golden rule that would eliminate this problem at a stroke.

[Kizzy]

...well, it's often said...'life skills' is the thing and should be a concentration in schools and there is no more a huge part of life than a mobile phone..so banning them would seem the most dumb thing and would teach nothing of a 'life skill' there..it's more allowing them and teaching when it's appropriate/not appropriate to use it in school...

This is the saddest thing I've ever heard :/

[lewis111]

I think the teachers have a tough enough job to do in trying to teach a class of 25 unruly adolescents without trying to coax them to learn not to use their phones.

The classroom should be a phone free environment , it should be accepted as such from the beginning . No phones allowed in places of teaching a simple golden rule that would eliminate this problem at a stroke.

Yea but were not saying that kids should be able to use whenever they want, if the teachers says phones off then that's ok Nd kids should out their phones off
But in some situations it can be a great way of learning. Students are doing more or their own research rather than answering endless textbook questions or listen to their teacher ramble on.
It's the same with computers and laptops but why should the schools spend thousands on them when kids have their own phones. If they can be properly monitered then there really is in issue

[Kizzy]

They can't be monitored though that is the issue... teachers can't be hanging over the shoulder of every student or sat at the back micromanaging the devices can they? It's unworkable.

[Ammi]

..well, too much emphasis..(imo of course..)..being placed on the fact that they're phones when they're also a free classroom technology resource/computer as well as being calculators etc..so if they're banned then maybe OFSTED can supply funding to replace that free resource....strangely, an odd concept maybe but most students actually want to learn in their lessons, rather than spend time texting friends who are also in their lessons and wanting to learn/ interested in learning...any student who has no interest in learning at all, then I doubt they would have any interest, whether they had their phones in lessons or not because those phones are not really their 'issue/problem' etc ...that's something that needs addressing separately ....

[Ammi]

Yea but were not saying that kids should be able to use whenever they want, if the teachers says phones off then that's ok Nd kids should out their phones off
But in some situations it can be a great way of learning. Students are doing more or their own research rather than answering endless textbook questions or listen to their teacher ramble on.
It's the same with computers and laptops but why should the schools spend thousands on them when kids have their own phones. If they can be properly monitered then there really is in issue

..indeed lewis, they're so much more than phones and sometimes need to be switched on in lessons...they're one of those great and thankful things for schools...A FREE RESOURCE..:laugh:...

[lewis111]

They can't be monitored though that is the issue... teachers can't be hanging over the shoulder of every student or sat at the back micromanaging the devices can they? It's unworkable.

Well it can be put down to trust and often checking the progress of work,IF they've done little give them a textbook, or used in a lesson that's maybe nit that important for example doing a poster towards the end of term etc

[arista]

This is the saddest thing I've ever heard :/

Good Point

[Nedusa]

This is the saddest thing I've ever heard :/

Totally agree, it's just a little piece of plastic and glass that's all... And when the battery is flat or their is no signal it's about as much use as a chocolate fireguard or an ashtray on a motorbike .

[arista]

They can't be monitored though that is the issue... teachers can't be hanging over the shoulder of every student or sat at the back micromanaging the devices can they? It's unworkable.


No but once that one pupil
Turns on his phone.

He or She will be Expelled

Rules Are Rules

[lewis111]

No but once that one pupil
Turns on his phone.

He or She will be Expelled

Rules Are Rules

I just find it so ludicrous that you could think that that is a reasonable punishment for something as small as putting their phone on. If they do use it they are affecting no one but themselves. If someone has their phone out in class, they should be asked to put it away THAT is a reasonable response,
If caught with it again then the phone should be taken off them intill end of class or end of day

[arista]

I just find it so ludicrous that you could think that that is a reasonable punishment for something as small as putting their phone on. If they do use it they are affecting no one but themselves. If someone has their phone out in class, they should be asked to put it away THAT is a reasonable response,
If caught with it again then the phone should be taken off them intill end of class or end of day


No that is not the way

Kids Must Learn Rules

We need Order in Every School
even Ammi's

[rubymoo]

It's silly and archaic. Any teacher would have had a game of it if they tried to take my phone off me. I wouldn't trust the school to keep it safe.

Phones should be used in classes as they can be wonderful tools for learning. The only rules rearding phones that should be in place is that they should be on silent in lessons, you can't call or text anyone in class unless it's an emergency and phones shouldn't be present in exams. Anything else is pointless.

They allowed phones to be used in my daughters school as an experiment, it was found to be a no go when a group of year 8's were found looking at child pornography....in class!

Phones have no place in schools, teachers should be the first point of a child learning in class, they have libraries for research and computers.

[Kizzy]

It would be a mixed message schools can't be responsible for the loss/damage of expensive items brought to school which is why they are discouraged, if they were relied on as a resource and encouraged then parents/kids may well blame the school if something happened.
Learning how to function in an adult world also means learning to say no if it's appropriate, I think this is a good example. Over the years schools will have tried 101 approaches to the issue of mobile phones in schools, if this one works fair play.

[lewis111]

No that is not the way

Kids Must Learn Rules

We need Order in Every School
even Ammi's

You sound like you're running a death camp or something. Please answer the question why should someone nit be given the chance for an education because one time they texted a friends in class ONE TIME. They might if even been using it for a calculator or checking the time we dint know.
As a person Whi is still at school I can say that times have probably changed and there is in need to expel pupils for tiny unnescary things that has no affect of the education or life of anyone

[arista]

They allowed phones to be used in my daughters school as an experiment, it was found to be a no go when a group of year 8's were found looking at child pornography....in class!

Phones have no place in schools, teachers should be the first point of a child learning in class, they have libraries for research and computers.


Thank You for Posting
Very Valid Points

[Ammi]

Good Point

...no, it's not a good point at all Arista but maybe you feel it is because it fits with your thought process of banning phones in classrooms...here we all are with our mobile phones because they're a huge part of daily lives today for virtually every one of us and making full use of the technology they offer us, yet students should not use that technology/resource in a class situation...

[lewis111]

Thank You for Posting
Very Valid Points

HOW THE HELL IS THAT A VALID POINT. It's like saying this guy had a dog then he abandoned it so people can longer have dogs as pets

[arista]

You sound like you're running a death camp or something. Please answer the question why should someone nit be given the chance for an education because one time they texted a friends in class ONE TIME. They might if even been using it for a calculator or checking the time we dint know.
As a person Whi is still at school I can say that times have probably changed and there is in need to expel pupils for tiny unnecessary things that has no affect of the education or life of anyone

No you can do all that on your new 10" Tablet
that has No Porn

Mobile Phones are only Banned while in a lesson
all agree this is good.

You will learn faster

[lewis111]

Maybe people just aren't realising that it's 2015 and technology is always advancing and changing.
There was probably people having the same argument years ago about bringing computers into schools, now, you need to know how to use them for a lot of jobs,a nd they also brought a lot of new potential to students who are good with that kid. Of thing e.g computing subjects, and a fast and efficient way to learn

[Kizzy]

...no, it's not a good point at all Arista but maybe you feel it is because it fits with your thought process of banning phones in classrooms...here we all are with our mobile phones because they're a huge part of daily lives today for virtually every one of us and making full use of the technology they offer us, yet students should not use that technology/resource in a class situation...

The point 'there is no more huge part of our lives' is a stretch ... If phones disappeared tomorrow I think most would have the capabilities to live and learn.

[arista]

"realising that it's 2015 and technology is always advancing and changing."


Wrong its all part of Education
and the 10" Tablet gets Central Updates each night

[lewis111]

No you can do all that on your new 10" Tablet
that has No Porn

Mobile Phones are only Banned while in a lesson
all agree this is good.

You will learn faster

great idea, spend thousands possibly millions on council or goverment money to supply schools with tablets to learn, you know I can't think of anything like that that students all ready have that they could use to learn and that could say our councils and governments a lot of money, oh wait, PHONES

You can't use one example if people watching lorn in class and make out al of days kids are massive porn addicts, I'll use e fact that when I. Class neither me or the person I am sitting next to has ever watched lorn in class when we are allowed to use phones

[lewis111]

The point 'there is no more huge part of our lives' is a stretch ... If phones disappeared tomorrow I think most would have the capabilities to live and learn.

I would say technology as a whole is one if the biggest if not the biggest part of our lives and phones re begging or already are the biggest part of that

[arista]

great idea, spend thousands possibly millions on council or goverment money to supply schools with tablets to learn, you know I can't think of anything like that that students all ready have that they could use to learn and that could say our councils and governments a lot of money, oh wait, PHONES

You can't use one example if people watching lorn in class and make out al of days kids are massive porn addicts, I'll use e fact that when I. Class neither me or the person I am sitting next to has ever watched lorn in class when we are allowed to use phones


No they will be bought in Massive Bulk
costing not much.

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2012/06/lead-1339084160.jpg

[lewis111]

"realising that it's 2015 and technology is always advancing and changing."


Wrong its all part of Education
and the 10" Tablet gets Central Updates each night

Yea but money

[arista]

The point 'there is no more huge part of our lives' is a stretch ... If phones disappeared tomorrow I think most would have the capabilities to live and learn.


Bang On Right Kizzy

[lewis111]

No they will be bought in Massive Bulk
costing not much.

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2012/06/lead-1339084160.jpg

Still ALOT of money though, just accept that phones really are the efficient way forward, saving time and money
As I said it dosent have to be used often and in important lessons, but to do research and stuff it's the quickest Nd best way

[lewis111]

Bang On Right Kizzy

Yea but they're not going to disappear so why not use them

[Ammi]

Bang On Right Kizzy

..and here you are using your technology every day on the internet, taking advantage of the 'HD' screens, no doubt using your phone on a daily basis for those big deals etc but no, no, no..that's for grown ups, we can't trust those young students with it because all they want to do is misuse it all and have no self discipline.../that I think is indeed the 'saddest' thing I've heard...

[arista]

Yea but they're not going to disappear so why not use them


In WW3
they would as the signal would be gone

[Kizzy]

..and here you are using your technology every day on the internet, taking advantage of the 'HD' screens, no doubt using your phone on a daily basis for those big deals etc but no, no, no..that's for grown ups, we can't trust those young students with it because all they want to do is misuse it all and have no self discipline.../that I think is indeed the 'saddest' thing I've heard...

Nobody is saying restrict tech to kids... it's all there in schools presently.
This is about the operation of the kids personal mobile phone during lesson time.

[arista]

..and here you are using your technology every day on the internet, taking advantage of the 'HD' screens, no doubt using your phone on a daily basis for those big deals etc but no, no, no..that's for grown ups, we can't trust those young students with it because all they want to do is misuse it all and have no self discipline.../that I think is indeed the 'saddest' thing I've heard...


Yes 4
1080P
screens
1 LCD 15"

And For Business
yes calls have to be made.


I trust students
but can they get up at 5AM?

[arista]

Nobody is saying restrict tech to kids... it's all there in schools presently.
This is about the operation of the kids personal mobile phone during lesson time.


Yes its that simple

[lewis111]

In WW3
they would as the signal would be gone

How did I not think of that, You know with all the war and fighting going on round the country rn

[lewis111]

Yes 4
1080P
screens
1 LCD 15"

And For Business
yes calls have to be made.


I trust students
but can they get up at 5AM?

You're actually starting to scare me brining up world was 3 and kids waking up early like I really have no idea in the world where you are going with your side of the argue net

[lewis111]

Nobody is saying restrict tech to kids... it's all there in schools presently.
This is about the operation of the kids personal mobile phone during lesson time.

We currently have out of date computers for about 10% of the school at a time, phones can be the answer to moving forward and keep education with the real world

[Ammi]

..taking away a free classroom technology resource is restricting technology..:laugh:..there is not enough funding for schools to provide the technology that's needed..in an ideal world, eh...

..it's also placing no trust on students by 'policing' them for maybe a few who may misuse these things...and yet strangely, we want them to be 'individuals' when they leave school and to be able to make good decisions for themselves rather than being policed, which is not what school is about...I personally have more faith in young people than to think they need things to be removed from them during lesson time because most of them actually do want to learn rather than text their friends...

[Ammi]

...anyway, nothing more to say really..if there is no trust and belief in young people then, hmmmm really..../quite sad....

[Jay.]

I never had to turn my phone off in school, mine was jail broken and tethered, so I could only turn it back on if it was plugged into my computer, so the teachers let me keep it on.

Although i see both sides, they shouldn't need their phones during lessons, but don't waste precious time telling them to turn it off, just let it be. There are far too many disruptions in the classroom anyway *remembers the countless times the whole class had to wait for 1 person to stop talking*

[rubymoo]

..and here you are using your technology every day on the internet, taking advantage of the 'HD' screens, no doubt using your phone on a daily basis for those big deals etc but no, no, no..that's for grown ups, we can't trust those young students with it because all they want to do is misuse it all and have no self discipline.../that I think is indeed the 'saddest' thing I've heard...

I know it's sad but it's also true with a lot of teenagers, they become so entwined with their technology, i'm battling my daughter at the moment about the amount of time she spends on her laptop/phone, and if i let her have her way she would be on it til 4 in the morning, she would have no contact with us, she would never go out, she would completely isolate herself, she is also a grade A student, has a beautiful caring gentle soul, she is the best daughter you could wish for and yet technology is taking away her childhood, because she will not venture outside on her own, and explore her surroundings.

In class when on computers they all try to get away with playing games rather than get on with their work, teenagers push the boundaries and try to get away with murder, if phones were allowed in class i dread to think what would happen, and what of the children who can't afford phones?

[rubymoo]

And i do trust my daughter, but not with technology left in her room past 10pm:laugh:

[arista]

"You're actually starting to scare me"


Getting up at 5AM you can get so much done
before anyone else is up

lewis111 Life is For Learning

[Kizzy]

..taking away a free classroom technology resource is restricting technology..:laugh:..there is not enough funding for schools to provide the technology that's needed..in an ideal world, eh...

..it's also placing no trust on students by 'policing' them for maybe a few who may misuse these things...and yet strangely, we want them to be 'individuals' when they leave school and to be able to make good decisions for themselves rather than being policed, which is not what school is about...I personally have more faith in young people than to think they need things to be removed from them during lesson time because most of them actually do want to learn rather than text their friends...

It can't be taking it away if it was never there in the first instance though.

The issue is not 'do schools have enough internet resources' is it?
The concern regarding the appropriate use of mobile phones in schools has gone on since the advent of mobile phones I suspect.
Teachers shouldn't have to be wasting teaching time on any one pupil who may abuse the privilege.
In the adult world there are times where mobiles are not allowed too, if they are mature enough to accept that personal items have a time and a place then I say that makes for a well rounded individual.
If this model of perfect trust was working there would be no need for further intervention would there? Somewhere somehow it isn't obviously.

[lostalex]

i think someone needs to take kizzy's phone away. do the TiBB mods have the power to do that?

[Kizzy]

:joker: :joker: :joker: