James Hill is a convicted criminal

[Headie]

The Apprentice contestant James Hill has a criminal record after being convicted of assault.

The 27-year-old candidate, hoping to win a £250,000 investment from Lord Alan Sugar, was involved in two brawls with other men, The Sun reported.

One victim told the newspaper that Hill assaulted him after he spoke to his girlfriend back in 2008.

It is claimed that four months later Hill bit another man’s ear on Christmas Eve.

He was arrested and appeared before JPs in Chesterfield, Derbyshire, in March 2009 under his full name Anthony James Hill.

Hill admitted carrying out the two assaults and received an six month jail sentence suspended for 18 months. He was also ordered to pay a total of £500 compensation to his victims and £755 in costs.

A spokesperson for James Hill said: “James is not proud of what happened, he was young and irresponsible and very much regrets and has learned from his actions.”

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/apprentice-2014-contestant-james-hill-is-a-convicted-criminal-9801143.html

Surely he should be ejected if Tila was ejected for her past? Especially that last paragraph, saying James is apologetic and regrets his decisions, therefore making it ok for him to do TV shows, but Tila is sorry and apologetic yet isn't given a second chance?

And this is an actual crime he committed, whereas Tila's was simply a controversial statement but not against the law.

[Jordan.]

Punch me

[reece(:]

The producers pick and choose

[Daniel.]

Beat me up dad

[Ross.]

Punch me

Beat me up dad

:joker:

[Firewire]

Producers obviously didn't know about this. You'll need to call the BOTS hotline.

[Dollface]

Everyone should be given second chances though (imo)

[Headie]

Punch me

Beat me up dad

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[Lostie!]

Yeah, I remember this coming out during The Apprentice. "Young and irresponsible" is such a crappy excuse, he was still a grown adult.

[Headie]

Everyone should be given second chances though (imo)

Bring Tila back!

[Daniel.]

It will be trash without dad he is NOT getting kicked

[LukeB]

Everyone should be given second chances though (imo)

Yeah, that's why i'm glad he is doing CBB because not everything is true and we get to know him more. Instead of reading crap

[Smithy]

Ok but this was 7 years ago?

[Dollface]

Bring Tila back!

agreed! :bawling:

[EspeonBB]

#Justice4Tila?

[Dollface]

Yeah, I remember this coming out during The Apprentice. "Young and irresponsible" is such a crappy excuse, he was still a grown adult.

do you think he shouldn't be allowed on BB then?

[Ashley.]

Ok but this was 7 years ago?

A leopard never changes his spots.

[Daniel.]

Why are you all coming for him he's a lovely guy in the house and regrets his action which was 7 years ago get over it bye

[Ashley.]

he's a lovely guy in the house

So was Tila :umm2:

[reece(:]

Bring Tila back!
!!!!

[Daniel.]

So was Tila :umm2:

Did I say she wasn't

[Lostie!]

do you think he shouldn't be allowed on BB then?

Oh no, just a general comment on the shoddy non-excuses some people pull out. The fact is there is no excuse for it. Him changing and moving on from it is a different matter altogether (and if he feels genuine remorse and the others involved have forgiven him, I believe he should be able to).

[Ashley.]

I swear you aren't allowed on Big Brother with a criminal record anyway? Or does that only apply for the civilian series

[Dollface]

A leopard never changes his spots.

that saying is silly though because we are humans, not leopards.

no-one knows exactly what happened during those brawls, and just because he was convicted doesn't mean justice was served

[Ashley.]

that saying is silly though because we are humans, not leopards.

no-one knows exactly what happened during those brawls, and just because he was convicted doesn't mean justice was served

Lmao he admitted it though? He committed a crime and was punished for it. That's justice.

[Dollface]

Oh no, just a general comment on the shoddy non-excuses some people pull out. The fact is there is no excuse for it. Him changing and moving on from it is a different matter altogether (and if he feels genuine remorse and the others involved have forgiven him, I believe he should be able to).

thing is though, just because someone was convicted of something, doesn't mean they did what they was accused of. trust me, the british justice system does fail. without evidence, i feel like i can't judge him for what it says he did.

[Ashley.]

thing is though, just because someone was convicted of something, doesn't mean they did what they was accused of. trust me, the british justice system does fail. without evidence, i feel like i can't judge him for what it says he did.

Hill admitted carrying out the two assaults and received an six month jail sentence suspended for 18 months. He was also ordered to pay a total of £500 compensation to his victims and £755 in costs.

Just saying.

http://i.giflike.com/a8X5qVd.gif

[Dollface]

Lmao he admitted it though? He committed a crime and was punished for it. That's justice.

well if he admitted to beating someone up for no reason, then that is a different story
but i haven't read that he admitted it or that it was for no reason (maybe i should do some reading about it though idk), the other person could have hit out first or something

[Dollface]

Just saying.

http://i.giflike.com/a8X5qVd.gif

just because he admitted to it doesn't mean it was for no reason, and just because he was ordered to pay compensation, doesn't mean the "victims" deserved the compensation

[Ashley.]

well if he admitted to beating someone up for no reason, then that is a different story
but i haven't read that he admitted it or that it was for no reason (maybe i should do some reading about it though idk), the other person could have hit out first or something

No matter how much you like him, there's no point trying to make excuses for him because he's already admitted it himself, so end of discussion.

[Dollface]

No matter how much you like him, there's no point trying to make excuses for him because he's already admitted it himself, so end of discussion.

first of all, i don't like the fella, just because i'm defending him in this thread, doesn't mean i like him. just trying to get across to judgmental people that there is always two sides to a story. the discussion will end when both people in the discussion have nothing left to say, so don't be so rude.

[Cherie]

Bring Tila back!

No... The bum hugging shorts and socks were enough to evict her

[Ashley.]

first of all, i don't like the fella, just because i'm defending him in this thread, doesn't mean i like him. just trying to get across to judgmental people that there is always two sides to a story. the discussion will end when both people in the discussion have nothing left to say, so don't be so rude.

It doesn't matter if they dealt the first hit at all, it doesn't change the fact that he assaulted them during the brawl. He committed a crime. If we take an extreme example, such as a man raping a women because she raped him first, does that make the man any less guilty of rape? Think about it.

[Liam-]

A leopard never changes his spots.

That rule doesn't apply to Tila then no?

[Ashley.]

That rule doesn't apply to Tila then no?

You can't really compare the two situations though, can't you?

[Daniel.]

Why are people coming people because of things they have said and done in their past? We have all done things we regret.

[Jordan.]

Why are people coming people because of things they have said and done in their past? We have all done things we regret.

This. Can we move on from Tila now

[Ashley.]

This. Can we move on from Tila now

Yeah. Although she was one of my favourites, tonight's episode kinda proves that the show can go on without her.

[Dollface]

It doesn't matter if they dealt the first hit at all, it doesn't change the fact that he assaulted them during the brawl. He committed a crime. If we take an extreme example, such as a man raping a women because she raped him first, does that make the man any less guilty of rape? Think about it.

you do realise "assaulted" can mean as little as throwing a drink at someone, poking someone, etc. ...right?
you probably don't know anyone who has been wrongly arrested/convicted, if you did maybe you would understand where i'm coming from. just because an article suggests justice was served, doesn't mean it was.

i'm not saying this dude is innocent, i don't know what happened and the article has no details about what happened. i'm just saying, it's best not to judge people by what you read about them. but from your "a leopard doesn't change it's spots" thing, i'm guessing you are the type to judge someone at the drop of a hat, so judge away.

[LukeB]

- pokes dollface -

[Dollface]

You can't really compare the two situations though, can't you?

erm, you just compared "assault" (which like i said can mean anything, from poking, to throwing a drink, to beating) ..to rape, soo..

[Dollface]

- pokes dollface -

you just assaulted me, i'm calling tibb police

[LukeB]

you just assaulted me, i'm calling tibb police

:dog:

[Dollface]

:dog:

:devil:

[Ashley.]

you do realise "assaulted" can mean as little as throwing a drink at someone, poking someone, etc. ...right?

I doubt he was sentenced to six months in jail for poking someone.

you probably don't know anyone who has been wrongly arrested/convicted, if you did maybe you would understand where i'm coming from. just because an article suggests justice was served, doesn't mean it was.
I know tons of people who have been wrongly arrested, it's part of my job.

it's best not to judge people by what you read about them. but from your "a leopard doesn't change it's spots" thing, i'm guessing you are the type to judge someone at the drop of a hat, so judge away.
That's just ironic.

erm, you just compared "assault" (which like i said can mean anything, from poking, to throwing a drink, to beating) ..to rape, soo..
Assault and rape are both crimes. So yes, I did just compare them.

[Dollface]

I doubt he was sentenced to six months in jail for poking someone.


I know tons of people who have been wrongly arrested, it's part of my job.


That's just ironic.


Assault and rape are both crimes. So yes, I did just compare them.

ok well we're obviously going to have to agree to disagree :thumbs: i do wonder what your job is though.

and really? how so? i'm judging you by something you wrote yourself, not something someone else wrote about you. so please tell me how that is ironic

[rusticgal]

Why are people coming people because of things they have said and done in their past? We have all done things we regret.


Agree...everyone deserves a second chance.....we all make mistakes...if we own it and regret it that's a huge step....no ones perfect and if we become a better person for it then the lesson is learnt. Move on...and remember there is often another side to the story... Move on.

[Dollface]

Agree...everyone deserves a second chance.....we all make mistakes...if we own it and regret it that's a huge step....no ones perfect and if we become a better person for it then the lesson is learnt. Move on...and remember there is often another side to the story... Move on.

:clap1:

[Ashley.]

Really? how so? i'm judging you by something you wrote yourself, not something someone else wrote about you. so please tell me how that is ironic, thanks.

I judged James based on something he did, and you judged me based on something I said, so we're both as bad as each other.

What else is ironic, is the fact that you're defending James even though you don't like him, and I'm prosecuting James even though I like him. :D

[BENDERBOY]

D@@@heads punching each other, his first bromances.

[Patricia4]

Why are you all coming for him he's a lovely guy in the house and regrets his action which was 7 years ago get over it bye

This above is true.

[bots]

Why are people coming people because of things they have said and done in their past? We have all done things we regret.

may be 'we' just want to cause its fun :laugh:

[Dollface]

I judged James based on something he did, and you judged me based on something I said, so we're both as bad as each other.

What else is ironic, is the fact that you're defending James even though you don't like him, and I'm prosecuting James even though I like him. :D


that is wrong, because actually you judged James on something he apparently did, where as i'm judging you on something you did actually 100% say.
i think more than defending james, i'm just trying to get across to people that there is always 2 sides to a story, because often people read something and think that that is exactly what happened, even if that isn't the case.

[aj2463]

Why are people coming people because of things they have said and done in their past? We have all done things we regret.

No one is coming for him. People are just pointing out that He and Tila both have shady pasts and that the producers seem to pick and choose certain rules for certain housemates. :nono:

[Ashley.]

that is wrong, because actually you judged James on something he apparently did, where as i'm judging you on something you did actually 100% say.
i think more than defending james, i'm just trying to get across to people that there is always 2 sides to a story, because often people read something and think that that is exactly what happened, even if that isn't the case.

But he admitted it so there's no "apparently" about it. Can we stop now because we seem to just be going around in circles.

[Ashley.]

No one is coming for him. People are just pointing out that He and Tila both have shady pasts and that the producers seem to pick and choose certain rules for certain housemates. :nono:

Yeah tbh.

[Dollface]

But he admitted it so there's no "apparently" about it. Can we stop now because we seem to just be going around in circles.

..clearly you've completely missed the point i've been trying to make, so yes we're definitely going around in circles. you don't have to ask to stop, you could always, ya know, ignore me lol.

[Ashley.]

..clearly you've completely missed the point i've been trying to make, so yes we're definitely going around in circles. you don't have to ask to stop, you could always, ya know, ignore me lol.

I would, but I'm trying to prove to you that I'm not rude and can actually hold a decent conversation. :laugh:

[Dollface]

I would, but I'm trying to prove to you that I'm not rude and can actually hold a decent conversation. :laugh:

oh :laugh: my ability to hold a decent conversation is almost non-existence :laugh: every debate i get myself into always ends up with me like ":rant:"

[Ashley.]

oh :laugh: my ability to hold a decent conversation is almost non-existence :laugh: every debate i get myself into always ends up with me like ":rant:"

I usually get about 10 minutes into the argument before realising there's not much point in arguing, so we just go out for lunch together instead. :thumbs:

[lostalex]

he can convict my mouth to his cock anytime he wants.

[Headie]

This. Can we move on from Tila now

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[Maxxie.]

You can't compare this with a ****ing nazi supporter some people are so dumb. The producers will have already known about this just like in The Apprentice. It's actually illegal for the producers to eject him under some rehabilitation act.

[Northern Monkey]

Tbh who has'nt got in scraps while out on the town.I know i got in loads when i used to go out.Just not arrested for it.Most people have had atleast one fight whilst out and after a few too many.He should'nt be removed and neither should Tila have been.

[Pete.]

Justice 4 Bianca! Axe James!

[jet]

Surely he should be ejected if Tila was ejected for her past? Especially that last paragraph, saying James is apologetic and regrets his decisions, therefore making it ok for him to do TV shows, but Tila is sorry and apologetic yet isn't given a second chance?

And this is an actual crime he committed, whereas Tila's was simply a controversial statement but not against the law.

Talking about actual crimes - that would be the extermination of six million innocent people by a man whom the swastika sporting Tila referred to as 'good'.
James bit some dude's ear or hit some dude (which I'm not condoning) but how does that even compare with supporting a ****ing madman intent on destroying an entire race!!! Maybe it happened too long ago to care about...This s*** is just getting too much too read anymore....ffs!

[Ashley.]

Talking about actual crimes - that would be the extermination of six million innocent people by a man whom the swastika sporting Tila referred to as 'good'.
James bit some dude's ear or hit some dude (which I'm not condoning) but how does that even compare with supporting a ****ing madman intent on destroying an entire race!!! Maybe it happened too long ago to care about...This s*** is just getting too much too read anymore....ffs!

lmao ask me if Tila killed those six million people

[jet]

lmao ask me if Tila killed those six million people

I wouldn't ask you anything....just sit there and keep laughing off that ass...:spin:

[Daniel.]

Justice 4 Bianca! Axe James!

Tragic

[Rob!]

he can convict my mouth to his cock anytime he wants.

Ffs :joker:

[BB4fan]

Everyone deserves a second chance.

[Vanessa]

Who hasn't gotten into fights when they were younger? Even i have a long time ago.

[Rob!]

Not Ness the Mess?

:fan:

[Vanessa]

Not Ness the Mess?

:fan:

It was a long time ago in my messy era. :laugh:

[Rob!]

I can picture you jumping out and scalping anybody who gave gay men any problems :joker:

Ness the best fag hag in the world :clap1:

[Vanessa]

I can picture you jumping out and scalping anybody who gave gay men any problems :joker:

Ness the best fag hag in the world :clap1:

I have a very bad temper, but i can control it more now.

[Northern Monkey]

Who hasn't gotten into fights when they were younger? Even i have a long time ago.

Exactly:thumbs: