View Full Version : Shilpa fans turning into Bullies? [Disscusion not Bickering]
Razmataz
17-01-2007, 10:13 AM
Right.
All the Shilpa fans are turning on Jade and the rest because of bullying, but surely if you call Jade a fake twaddle blah blah you're stooping down to "Jades" Level and reacting to it.
Do you really need to come back with just as lame a phrase as she originally came out with.
I think a lot of people need to wake up in here, and understand it takes 2 to tango, and that Shilpa fans outcry is just turning into a mass BULLY JADE rally, when really there is no need.
Now, I think it's pointless you slagging my thread off because of the validity of it, but you can try your best.
Originally posted by Jigsaw©
Right.
All the Shilpa fans are turning on Jade and the rest because of bullying, but surely if you call Jade a fake twaddle blah blah you're stooping down to "Jades" Level and reacting to it.
Do you really need to come back with just as lame a phrase as she originally came out with.
I think a lot of people need to wake up in here, and understand it takes 2 to tango, and that Shilpa fans outcry is just turning into a mass BULLY JADE rally, when really there is no need.
Now, I think it's pointless you slagging my thread off because of the validity of it, but you can try your best.
So if I disagree with you - am I slagging your thread off?
Yep, that's why I thought it was funny when they called her a chav... but they were appalled that Jackiey called her the indian?
^ the word "chav" got sensationlized on Little Britain. I didn't see any halabalo being created then so why now. Even low life scum Jackiey calls her daughter a "chav/chavvy" is she being racist to her own daughter.
No we are not bullies. We think you and your brigade of Anti-Shilpa fans are ignorant, hence the heavy come down. You chill out and then it'll result in the Shilpa fans to chill out.
And giving a reaction to something, doesn't make you stoop down to any level. What did you say in some other topic, "supporting my freedom of speech" ahh yes that was it. Thats what we call it too.
And you need to stop making alleged assumptions
Razmataz
17-01-2007, 10:17 AM
Originally posted by Ruth
Originally posted by Jigsaw©
Right.
All the Shilpa fans are turning on Jade and the rest because of bullying, but surely if you call Jade a fake twaddle blah blah you're stooping down to "Jades" Level and reacting to it.
Do you really need to come back with just as lame a phrase as she originally came out with.
I think a lot of people need to wake up in here, and understand it takes 2 to tango, and that Shilpa fans outcry is just turning into a mass BULLY JADE rally, when really there is no need.
Now, I think it's pointless you slagging my thread off because of the validity of it, but you can try your best.
So if I disagree with you - am I slagging your thread off?
No thats why it's discussion not bickering. :thumbs:
It's not bullying, everyone gets like this during BB's it's what happens.
Psylocke
17-01-2007, 10:18 AM
Originally posted by Shilpa_Fan
No we are not bullies. We think you and your brigade of Anti-Shilpa fans are ignorant, hence the heavy come down. You chill out and then it'll result in the Shilpa fans to chill out.
And giving a reaction to something, doesn't make you stoop down to any level. What did you say in some other topic, "supporting my freedom of speech" ahh yes that was it. Thats what we call it too.
And you need to stop making alleged assumptions
here here
Razmataz
17-01-2007, 10:19 AM
Originally posted by Shilpa_Fan
No we are not bullies. We think you and your brigade of Anti-Shilpa fans are ignorant, hence the heavy come down. You chill out and then it'll result in the Shilpa fans to chill out.
And giving a reaction to something, doesn't make you stoop down to any level. What did you say in some other topic, "supporting my freedom of speech" ahh yes that was it. Thats what we call it too.
And you need to stop making alleged assumptions
Right. Lets give a real life example here.
A bully calls you "name" and you react by saying a "name" isn't that exactly what the Shilpa fans are doing. [I am not anti-shilpa, I just think the way shes treated and given more press for bullying is shambolic, when it's happened before and nothing has come of it]
Razmataz
17-01-2007, 10:20 AM
Originally posted by Shilpa_Fan
^ the word "chav" got sensationlized on Little Britain. I didn't see any halabalo being created then so why now. Even low life scum Jackiey calls her daughter a "chav/chavvy" is she being racist to her own daughter.
No we are not bullies. We think you and your brigade of Anti-Shilpa fans are ignorant, hence the heavy come down. You chill out and then it'll result in the Shilpa fans to chill out.
And giving a reaction to something, doesn't make you stoop down to any level. What did you say in some other topic, "supporting my freedom of speech" ahh yes that was it. Thats what we call it too.
And you need to stop making alleged assumptions
You've just said low life scum Jackiey isn't that bullying?
If someone calls you a name, your reaction would be to say something back. You don't think and say to yourself "right I have to say something that doesn't make me look like a bully". You don't have time to stop and ponder, you just shoot out and then later if you think about it, you realise what you said might have been wrong/bad
Originally posted by Jigsaw©
You've just said low life scum Jackiey isn't that bullying?
no I don't think so. Just the way Jackiey called Shilpa "That Indian" to address her, i've used my choice of words to address Jackiey
Razmataz
17-01-2007, 10:23 AM
Originally posted by Shilpa_Fan
If somoone calls you a name, your reaction would be to say something back. You don't think and say to yourself "right I have to say something that doesn't make me look like a bully". You don't have time to stop and ponder, you just shoot out and then later if you think about it, you realise what you said might have been wrong/bad
Hence why Shilpa fans are calming down, everyone is just as bad as each other.
Theres no need in all this crap, it's just made her more famous, which is something I couldn't care less for.
Originally posted by Jigsaw©
Hence why Shilpa fans are calming down, everyone is just as bad as each other.
Theres no need in all this c**p, it's just made her more famous, which is something I couldn't care less for.
oh you care and its evident by the opening of this topic.
Razmataz
17-01-2007, 10:25 AM
Originally posted by Shilpa_Fan
Originally posted by Jigsaw©
You've just said low life scum Jackiey isn't that bullying?
no I don't think so. Just the way Jackiey called Shilpa "That Indian" to address her, i've used my choice of words to address Jackiey
Exactly. You're doing what Jackiey did to Shilpa, it's bullying, stop being so one sided, look at both sides of the mirror.
Razmataz
17-01-2007, 10:26 AM
Originally posted by Shilpa_Fan
Originally posted by Jigsaw©
Hence why Shilpa fans are calming down, everyone is just as bad as each other.
Theres no need in all this c**p, it's just made her more famous, which is something I couldn't care less for.
oh you care and its evident by the opening of this topic.
This was directed at her fans, not Shilpa herself.
Psylocke
17-01-2007, 10:27 AM
Originally posted by Jigsaw©
Originally posted by Shilpa_Fan
No we are not bullies. We think you and your brigade of Anti-Shilpa fans are ignorant, hence the heavy come down. You chill out and then it'll result in the Shilpa fans to chill out.
And giving a reaction to something, doesn't make you stoop down to any level. What did you say in some other topic, "supporting my freedom of speech" ahh yes that was it. Thats what we call it too.
And you need to stop making alleged assumptions
Right. Lets give a real life example here.
A bully calls you "name" and you react by saying a "name" isn't that exactly what the Shilpa fans are doing. [I am not anti-shilpa, I just think the way shes treated and given more press for bullying is shambolic, when it's happened before and nothing has come of it]
OMG,so what your saying is because past people have been bullied,any new person should be bullied and take it because its been donne before and not stopped.
thats sickning
It ain't bullying, people are sticking up for their favourites and plus people have every right to call them whatever because they have been nasty and out of order, what reason have they got to bully Shilpa? none at all, what reason have we got to Call Jade and Bitchielle names? every reason.
Razmataz
17-01-2007, 10:30 AM
Originally posted by psylocke
Originally posted by Jigsaw©
Originally posted by Shilpa_Fan
No we are not bullies. We think you and your brigade of Anti-Shilpa fans are ignorant, hence the heavy come down. You chill out and then it'll result in the Shilpa fans to chill out.
And giving a reaction to something, doesn't make you stoop down to any level. What did you say in some other topic, "supporting my freedom of speech" ahh yes that was it. Thats what we call it too.
And you need to stop making alleged assumptions
Right. Lets give a real life example here.
A bully calls you "name" and you react by saying a "name" isn't that exactly what the Shilpa fans are doing. [I am not anti-shilpa, I just think the way shes treated and given more press for bullying is shambolic, when it's happened before and nothing has come of it]
OMG,so what your saying is because past people have been bullied,any new person should be bullied and take it because its been donne before and not stopped.
thats sickning
Hell no. I think that the way Shilpas press has been glamourised is shambolic, just because she is "more well known" than "Nadia or Aisleyne" it's complete and utter trash. Why do she get a better press coverage than when others have been bullied?
Originally posted by Jigsaw©
Hell no. I think that the way Shilpas press has been glamourised is shambolic, just because she is "more well known" than "Nadia or Aisleyne" it's complete and utter trash. Why do she get a better press coverage than when others have been bullied?
well why don't you go ask the press this then?
Razmataz
17-01-2007, 10:31 AM
Originally posted by Jay
It ain't bullying, people are sticking up for their favourites and plus people have every right to call them whatever because they have been nasty and out of order, what reason have they got to bully Shilpa? none at all, what reason have we got to Call Jade and Bitchielle names? every reason.
Every reason?
I just doubt it, so because someone else did it, it makes it right for you to do it? You're just as shambolic as they're.
And I'm hardly sticking up for them, when Cleo/Dirk arn't involved.
And I'm looking at both sides of Jo.
Razmataz
17-01-2007, 10:32 AM
Originally posted by Shilpa_Fan
Originally posted by Jigsaw©
Hell no. I think that the way Shilpas press has been glamourised is shambolic, just because she is "more well known" than "Nadia or Aisleyne" it's complete and utter trash. Why do she get a better press coverage than when others have been bullied?
well why don't you go ask the press this then?
Well why don't we go and ask that OVER REACTING 11,000 people who have complained?
because thats what it is.
Originally posted by Jigsaw©
Originally posted by Jay
It ain't bullying, people are sticking up for their favourites and plus people have every right to call them whatever because they have been nasty and out of order, what reason have they got to bully Shilpa? none at all, what reason have we got to Call Jade and Bitchielle names? every reason.
Every reason?
I just doubt it, so because someone else did it, it makes it right for you to do it? You're just as shambolic as they're.
And I'm hardly sticking up for them, when Cleo/Dirk arn't involved.
And I'm looking at both sides of Jo.
Yeah every reason, surely you don't expect everyone on here to say well done to the clan do you?
bovvered?
17-01-2007, 10:35 AM
Just thought Id 'pop up' with a couple of dictionary definitions.....
Bullying....the process of intimidating or mistreating someone weaker or in a more vulnerable situation
Racism.....prejudice or animosity against people who belong to other races
Razmataz
17-01-2007, 10:37 AM
Originally posted by Jay
Originally posted by Jigsaw©
Originally posted by Jay
It ain't bullying, people are sticking up for their favourites and plus people have every right to call them whatever because they have been nasty and out of order, what reason have they got to bully Shilpa? none at all, what reason have we got to Call Jade and Bitchielle names? every reason.
Every reason?
I just doubt it, so because someone else did it, it makes it right for you to do it? You're just as shambolic as they're.
And I'm hardly sticking up for them, when Cleo/Dirk arn't involved.
And I'm looking at both sides of Jo.
Yeah every reason, surely you don't expect everyone on here to say well done to the clan do you?
I'm not saying well done either?
I think what goes around comes around, and I'm sure there is a bubble seething in the BB house, and it's Shilpas bubble.
I just think, that everyone is as bad as each other, and everyone has bullied/been bullied in their life time. Whats the point in stooping again?
Razmataz
17-01-2007, 10:39 AM
Originally posted by bovvered?
Just thought Id 'pop up' with a couple of dictionary definitions.....
Bullying....the process of intimidating or mistreating someone weaker or in a more vulnerable situation
Racism.....prejudice or animosity against people who belong to other races
So therefore it's none of them? although bullying Jackiey[even though I disliked how she behaved in the house.], is wrong, because she is not here to defend herself?
Sunny_01
17-01-2007, 10:40 AM
I think sadly this is turning into exactly what the thread suggested not to do - there appears to be a lot of beickering going on rather than deabte.
I feel that Shilpa is being treated badly - but more so by the creators of BB than her HMs, Many of them are not actually clever enough to realise they are bullying, bullying is "generally" something that is quite deliberate and directed at the individual rather than behind their back. I feel that the biggest problem is the producers are not tackling the people who are the culprits and letting them see that there are consequences for their actions.
Shilpa appears to me to be a very beautiful, dignified lady who does not really deserve all the things that are being said behind her back. Jade, well what can I say, I like Jadfe I really do but come on she is not the brightest spark is she and I doubt very much she is even aware that people are so disgusted with her actions, she possibly sees them as normal!!!
Razmataz
17-01-2007, 10:42 AM
Originally posted by Sunny_01
I think sadly this is turning into exactly what the thread suggested not to do - there appears to be a lot of beickering going on rather than deabte.
I feel that Shilpa is being treated badly - but more so by the creators of BB than her HMs, Many of them are not actually clever enough to realise they are bullying, bullying is "generally" something that is quite deliberate and directed at the individual rather than behind their back. I feel that the biggest problem is the producers are not tackling the people who are the culprits and letting them see that there are consequences for their actions.
Shilpa appears to me to be a very beautiful, dignified lady who does not really deserve all the things that are being said behind her back. Jade, well what can I say, I like Jadfe I really do but come on she is not the brightest spark is she and I doubt very much she is even aware that people are so disgusted with her actions, she possibly sees them as normal!!!
Sunny to save the day again :thumbs:
Sunny_01
17-01-2007, 10:44 AM
Originally posted by Jigsaw©
Originally posted by Sunny_01
I think sadly this is turning into exactly what the thread suggested not to do - there appears to be a lot of beickering going on rather than deabte.
I feel that Shilpa is being treated badly - but more so by the creators of BB than her HMs, Many of them are not actually clever enough to realise they are bullying, bullying is "generally" something that is quite deliberate and directed at the individual rather than behind their back. I feel that the biggest problem is the producers are not tackling the people who are the culprits and letting them see that there are consequences for their actions.
Shilpa appears to me to be a very beautiful, dignified lady who does not really deserve all the things that are being said behind her back. Jade, well what can I say, I like Jadfe I really do but come on she is not the brightest spark is she and I doubt very much she is even aware that people are so disgusted with her actions, she possibly sees them as normal!!!
Sunny to save the day again :thumbs:
MWAHHHH Ryan :kiss:
I just struggle to understand the outrage that is going on when Shilpa herself seems to be taking everything in her stride, now that is class :hello:
Razmataz
17-01-2007, 10:47 AM
Originally posted by Sunny_01
Originally posted by Jigsaw©
Originally posted by Sunny_01
I think sadly this is turning into exactly what the thread suggested not to do - there appears to be a lot of beickering going on rather than deabte.
I feel that Shilpa is being treated badly - but more so by the creators of BB than her HMs, Many of them are not actually clever enough to realise they are bullying, bullying is "generally" something that is quite deliberate and directed at the individual rather than behind their back. I feel that the biggest problem is the producers are not tackling the people who are the culprits and letting them see that there are consequences for their actions.
Shilpa appears to me to be a very beautiful, dignified lady who does not really deserve all the things that are being said behind her back. Jade, well what can I say, I like Jadfe I really do but come on she is not the brightest spark is she and I doubt very much she is even aware that people are so disgusted with her actions, she possibly sees them as normal!!!
Sunny to save the day again :thumbs:
MWAHHHH Ryan :kiss:
I just struggle to understand the outrage that is going on when Shilpa herself seems to be taking everything in her stride, now that is class :hello:
ahahah. You remembered who I was :)
Proud moment, I dunno if you remember but it's been a year now since you told me to put on my "eff off face" :)
:shocked:
I know if it was all being done in front of her purposely and trying to be intimidating and trying to make her feel low i would understand why it is called bullying, but most of it is done behind her back , and no that doesn't make it acceptable .
And saying that when Jade was telling Shilpa why she didn't like her it was in a discussion and Shilpa herself said Jade never 'crossed the borderline', and Jade didn't leave it on a bad note she tried to comfort her .
The reason Shilpa gets "upset" is because she can feel a vibe, and in a small house that is hard to get away from, and is also, from Jade and co's side hard to hide...
I also think Shilpa plays it up a bit aswell with the victim act.
The only one I don't really like is Jack and I think the comment about 'do it with ur teeth' was nasty - but I do not think he is racist.
Razmataz
17-01-2007, 10:49 AM
Originally posted by ttw
I know if it was all being done in front of her purposely and trying to be intimidating and trying to make her feel low i would understand why it is called bullying, but most of it is done behind her back , and no that doesn't make it acceptable .
And saying that when Jade was telling Shilpa why she didn't like her it was in a discussion and Shilpa herself said Jade never 'crossed the borderline', and Jade didn't leave it on a bad note she tried to comfort her .
The reason Shilpa gets "upset" is because she can feel a vibe, and in a small house that is hard to get away from, and is also, from Jade and co's side hard to hide...
I also think Shilpa plays it up a bit aswell with the victim act.
The only one I don't really like is Jack and I think the comment about 'do it with ur teeth' was nasty - but I do not think he is racist.
For a new member thats quite an immaculate post :thumbs:
I agree with the Shilpa victim act? Suits the lass being an actress?
Sunny_01
17-01-2007, 10:51 AM
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MWAHHHH Ryan :kiss:
I just struggle to understand the outrage that is going on when Shilpa herself seems to be taking everything in her stride, now that is class :hello: [/quote]
ahahah. You remembered who I was :)
Proud moment, I dunno if you remember but it's been a year now since you told me to put on my "eff off face" :)
:shocked: [/quote]
How could I ever forget you - a year my goodness that has flown.
I think that Shilpa was really unaware of what this house would be like and that is what she struggles with more than anything, she is not used to living like this.
Originally posted by Sunny_01
MWAHHHH Ryan :kiss:
I just struggle to understand the outrage that is going on when Shilpa herself seems to be taking everything in her stride, now that is class :hello: [/quote]
ahahah. You remembered who I was :)
Proud moment, I dunno if you remember but it's been a year now since you told me to put on my "eff off face" :)
:shocked: [/quote]
How could I ever forget you - a year my goodness that has flown.
I think that Shilpa was really unaware of what this house would be like and that is what she struggles with more than anything, she is not used to living like this. [/quote]
Yep , I agree with that too , especially when you think of how big a star she is in her country, she said people stand up when she walks into a room and call her 'Mam' ... For years and years she has been used to being adored and she finds it hard to cope with the fact that they don't.
Razmataz
17-01-2007, 10:58 AM
Originally posted by Sunny_01
MWAHHHH Ryan :kiss:
I just struggle to understand the outrage that is going on when Shilpa herself seems to be taking everything in her stride, now that is class :hello: [/quote]
ahahah. You remembered who I was :)
Proud moment, I dunno if you remember but it's been a year now since you told me to put on my "eff off face" :)
:shocked: [/quote]
How could I ever forget you - a year my goodness that has flown.
I think that Shilpa was really unaware of what this house would be like and that is what she struggles with more than anything, she is not used to living like this. [/quote]
I agree with this to. It's like she expected everyone to be nice to her!:whistle:
And.
Sunny how things change.
Wouldn't mind a chat with you sometime again, catch up is good. :) and wonderful world of being 18 is good to :)
Originally posted by Jigsaw©
I agree with this to. It's like she expected everyone to be nice to her!:whistle:
Well it's perfectly reasonable to expect everyone to treat everyone else with at least some civility, no?:wink:
Razmataz
17-01-2007, 11:02 AM
Originally posted by Ruth
Originally posted by Jigsaw©
I agree with this to. It's like she expected everyone to be nice to her!:whistle:
Well it's perfectly reasonable to expect everyone to treat everyone else with at least some civility, no?:wink:
But then you remember you're in a "reality tv" show!
bovvered?
17-01-2007, 11:03 AM
Originally posted by Ruth
Originally posted by Jigsaw©
I agree with this to. It's like she expected everyone to be nice to her!:whistle:
Well it's perfectly reasonable to expect everyone to treat everyone else with at least some civility, no?:wink:
And noone would watch.............:whistle:
and we wouldnt have anything to type about:thumbs2:
Originally posted by Ruth
Originally posted by Jigsaw©
I agree with this to. It's like she expected everyone to be nice to her!:whistle:
Well it's perfectly reasonable to expect everyone to treat everyone else with at least some civility, no?:wink:
Ofcourse, but everyone knows there's a possibilty there will be a character you clash with, or someone that doesn't like you or you don't like them.
But, because she has been adored for so long, it will be hard for her to get round the fact that she may not be liked.
Nowhere
17-01-2007, 11:09 AM
Originally posted by Shilpa_Fan
^ the word "chav" got sensationlized on Little Britain. I didn't see any halabalo being created then so why now. Even low life scum Jackiey calls her daughter a "chav/chavvy" is she being racist to her own daughter.
Yes but many coloured people call their friends n-----r, but if a white person was to say it, they would feel it was used as a derogitory term, because that's its origin. So I don't believe Jackiey's being racist to her daughter, I guess it's a term of endearment when used among friends.Wow this world is getting complicated :sad:
Razmataz
17-01-2007, 11:16 AM
Originally posted by Nowhere
Originally posted by Shilpa_Fan
^ the word "chav" got sensationlized on Little Britain. I didn't see any halabalo being created then so why now. Even low life scum Jackiey calls her daughter a "chav/chavvy" is she being racist to her own daughter.
Yes but many coloured people call their friends n-----r, but if a white person was to say it, they would feel it was used as a derogitory term, because that's its origin. So I don't believe Jackiey's being racist to her daughter, I guess it's a term of endearment when used among friends.Wow this world is getting complicated :sad:
Absoloutely perfect point.
Nowhere
17-01-2007, 11:21 AM
Thanks very much Jigsaw :flowers:
peace&love
17-01-2007, 11:23 AM
Originally posted by Jigsaw©
Originally posted by Ruth
Well it's perfectly reasonable to expect everyone to treat everyone else with at least some civility, no?:wink:
But then you remember you're in a "reality tv" show! [/quote]
cleo is in a "reality tv " too ! ian too ! jermaine too ! and they are treated with some civility no ?
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