High-flying woman barrister who tried to shame solicitor, 57, for praising her looks

[Crimson Dynamo]

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She accused male lawyer of sexism for complimenting her LinkedIn photo
Married Alex Carter-Silk, 57, told Miss Proudman her picture was 'stunning'


A 57-year-old lawyer was accused of “unacceptable and misogynistic behaviour” after he sent a barrister half his age a LinkedIn message complimenting her on her “stunning picture”.

Alexander Carter-Silk was named and shamed on Twitter by 27-year-old human rights lawyer Charlotte Proudman who posted her reply to the message online.

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He has since apologised for the message, in which he told Ms Proudman he was “delighted to connect”, adding “I appreciate that this is probably horrendously politically incorrect but that is a stunning picture !!!”

The lawyer, a partner at international firm Brown Rudnick continued: “You definitely win the prize for the best Linked in picture I have ever seen
“Always interest [sic] to understant [sic] people’s skills and how we might work together”.

Her response, which prompted praise on social media, read: “I am on linked-in for business purposes not to be approached about my physical appearance or to be objectified by sexist men.

“The eroticisation of women’s physical appearance is a way of exercising power over women. It silences women’s professional attributes as their physical appearance becomes the subject

“Unacceptable and misogynistic behaviour. Think twice before sending another woman (half your age) such a sexist message.”
Ms Proudman said she had received similar messages about her appearance before, although not from anyone as senior as Mr Carter-Silk. Unlike her male peers, the barrister said she has never received a job offer through the professional networking site.

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Was she right or was it that he wasnt attractive enough or useful enough to take the compliment?

[MTVN]

She seems to be relishing the attention of having herself plastered all over the internet and she's now written an article on the Independent website about what a hero she is for 'speaking out for all women'. It's now become a circus of her own making which she is indulging. It's a bit of an inappropriate comment by the guy but it's hardly the massive affront she's making it out to be.

[kirklancaster]

Much Ado About Nothing.

[Livia]

Attention seeker.

I would not have been offended by that message. Maybe it's not politically correct, but it wasn't misogynistic and it did not touch on "eroticism", so why she implied that it did I can only assume is that she is trying to make an issue where there is none.

I like a compliment, who doesn't. If he's said "great tits" or "really nice arse" it would be been unacceptable... but he didn't. If she found it unacceptable, she should have told him and moved on instead of creating a massive brouhaha. This woman says she's speaking out for women. Well, she doesn't speak for me.

[lostalex]

Would he have complimented a man and commented on his physical appearance in the same way? if not then she is totally right to call him out.

she kinda looks like Rachel from Orphan Black..

[Niamh.]

Attention seeker.

I would not have been offended by that message. Maybe it's not politically correct, but it wasn't misogynistic and it did not touch on "eroticism", so why she implied that it did I can only assume is that she is trying to make an issue where there is none.

I like a compliment, who doesn't. If he's said "great tits" or "really nice arse" it would be been unacceptable... but he didn't. If she found it unacceptable, she should have told him and moved on instead of creating a massive brouhaha. This woman says she's speaking out for women. Well, she doesn't speak for me.

He probably would have if you could have seen them in the picture :smug:


but yeah, I think it was inappropriate in a business setting to make comments like that on a persons appearance, sure a compliment is nice but there's a time and a place

[Kizzy]

It was a silly sexist message to post on her linked in, what was he thinking?

[MTVN]

They do say that linkedin is basically a dating website these days

[Livia]

He probably would have if you could have seen them in the picture :smug:


but yeah, I think it was inappropriate in a business setting to make comments like that on a persons appearance, sure a compliment is nice but there's a time and a place

It wasn't appropriate... but her reaction was disproportionate to it's appropriateness. Her reply to him should have been enough instead of ridiculing him in public.

[Livia]

They do say that linkedin is basically a dating website these days

Yeah, LOL... I know a couple of who got together on linkedin.

[Niamh.]

It wasn't appropriate... but her reaction was disproportionate to it's appropriateness. Her reply to him should have been enough instead of ridiculing him in public.

true enough

[Crimson Dynamo]

to be fair she should have made a full body pic and then we could at least see her tits and arse

My intuition says they would be good.



But I bet if the guy had been 28 and as fit as a butchers dog and a lawyer she would have been all .....:fan:

[Niamh.]

to be fair she should have made a full body pic and then we could at least see her tits and arse

My intuition says they would be good.



But I bet if the guy had been 28 and as fit as a butchers dog and a lawyer she would have been all .....:fan:

I doubt it tbh

[lostalex]

to be fair she should have made a full body pic and then we could at least see her tits and arse

My intuition says they would be good.



But I bet if the guy had been 28 and as fit as a butchers dog and a lawyer she would have been all .....:fan:

but he wasn't, so how is that relevant?

If a guy was being harassed online by a gay guy and he got offended, you could just as easily say "if it was a hot 18 y/o female with a perfect body he wouldn't mind"... so what?

[rubymoo]

After her reaction to being given a compliment, i bet she could remove a mans genitalia with a flick of her eye lashes!

Yes i think he stepped over the line, but she could have graciously received the compliment, it seems everything has to be a big thing nowadays:idc:

[lostalex]

After her reaction to being given a compliment, i bet she could remove a mans genitalia with a flick of her eye lashes!

Yes i think he stepped over the line, but she could have graciously received the compliment, it seems everything has to be a big thing nowadays:idc:

maybe instead of blaming the person reacting to someone being stupid, we should just blame the person being stupid.

Newsflash everyone... stop doing stupid things!

[rubymoo]

maybe instead of blaming the person reacting to someone being stupid, we should just blame the person being stupid.

Newsflash everyone... stop doing stupid things!

We all do stupid things:laugh:that's what makes us human.

[Kizzy]

I wonder how many times she's been propositioned by some stuffed suit, maybe it was just one too many?

[Cherie]

Completely inappropriate if this were an older female on a young guy and he called her out there would be applause all round, it's a professional site so keep it that way

[user104658]

"You definitely win the prize for best linkedin picture I have ever seen"

...Note to self: Linked-In is not a very good dating resource.




Being serious though... no it was not appropriate for him to be sending messages like that, and it's also more than a little bit... err... sad. Guy's a sad-sack. Boo hoo.

On the other hand, it's not really a case of either "she should accept the compliment" or "how she responded was fine". She could have told him - firmly, politely, but discreetly - that he was being an inappropriate greasy creeper and hopefully he would have gotten the message. She didn't really need to go full nuclear on him, and it certainly didn't all need to be made public...

[Cherie]

"You definitely win the prize for best linkedin picture I have ever seen"

...Note to self: Linked-In is not a very good dating resource.




Being serious though... no it was not appropriate for him to be sending messages like that, and it's also more than a little bit... err... sad. Guy's a sad-sack. Boo hoo.

On the other hand, it's not really a case of either "she should accept the compliment" or "how she responded was fine". She could have told him - firmly, politely, but discreetly - that he was being an inappropriate greasy creeper and hopefully he would have gotten the message. She didn't really need to go full nuclear on him, and it certainly didn't all need to be made public...

As Kizzy says maybe it was the final straw?

[Tom4784]

Inappropriate but she should have just dealt with it privately, by going public in such an opportunistic fashion she has sadly cheapened any valid points she may have had.

As Kizzy says maybe it was the final straw?

Maybes don't make for compelling arguments.

[Cherie]

Inappropriate but she should have just dealt with it privately, by going public in such an opportunistic fashion she has sadly cheapened any valid points she may have had.



Maybes don't make for compelling arguments.

Whatever made her react she was completely within her rights, receiving a message from a complete stranger is creepy she did right to nip it in the bud and also by broadcasting it, she has effectively ensured no one else will be approached in that way, male or female :clap1:

[Kizzy]

Maybes don't make for compelling arguments.

We don't know her so we can't know her reasoning can we? :/

She could be a ball breaker she could also be the victim of years of sexual harassment, who knows...
Waiting for #pervshaming to be a 'thing'.

[Tom4784]

Whatever made her react she was completely within her rights, receiving a message from a complete stranger is creepy she did right to nip it in the bud and also by broadcasting it, she has effectively ensured no one else will be approached in that way, male or female :clap1:

Such naïveté.

I never said she wasn't within her rights to nip it in the bud so I'm not sure what you've been reading to suggest I haven't but nothing she has done since will benefit anyone in her situation, she's took the opportunity to make some money from it and that's all.

[Tom4784]

We don't know her so we can't know her reasoning can we? :/

She could be a ball breaker she could also be the victim of years of sexual harassment, who knows...
Waiting for #pervshaming to be a 'thing'.

We can only judge by what's written.

[lostalex]

We can only judge by what's written.

and what he Wrote, is clearly deserving of being shamed.

[user104658]

As Kizzy says maybe it was the final straw?

Maybe, but that would suggest she has handled it better with other perves in the past, but this one was just one too many. That doesn't make it right. Nothing he said was aggressive, and it was one message not relentless pestering. The fact that OTHER people have done the same doesn't make it right for her to take it all out on this one. She could have handled it discreetly and still written about it in anger without naming and shaming one man.

Or, if she really felt it important to name and shame, and it was because of this sort of thing happening frequently, she should have named and shamed ALL of the men who got her to this point.

Basically... I don't see how it's fair or just for one person to take the flak for himself AND everyone else, with his face and name all over it, whilst the others who played just as big a part in getting her to breaking point (hypothetically, we don't even know if that's the case) sit at home safe in anonymity.

Also, we don't know if this man has sent similar messages to others in the past and been told that it's nice to be complimented. He might have messaged Livia the week before, and have been hoping for similar success.

[Cherie]

Such naïveté.

I never said she wasn't within her rights to nip it in the bud so I'm not sure what you've been reading to suggest I haven't but nothing she has done since will benefit anyone in her situation, she's took the opportunity to make some money from it and that's all.

Can you stop with the personal remarks? It makes it very difficult to engage in any debate when you start getting personal. I have said my piece and refuse to be drawn into this any further with you.

[Cherie]

Maybe, but that would suggest she has handled it better with other perves in the past, but this one was just one too many. That doesn't make it right. Nothing he said was aggressive, and it was one message not relentless pestering. The fact that OTHER people have done the same doesn't make it right for her to take it all out on this one. She could have handled it discreetly and still written about it in anger without naming and shaming one man.

Or, if she really felt it important to name and shame, and it was because of this sort of thing happening frequently, she should have named and shamed ALL of the men who got her to this point.

Basically... I don't see how it's fair or just for one person to take the flak for himself AND everyone else, with his face and name all over it, whilst the others who played just as big a part in getting her to breaking point (hypothetically, we don't even know if that's the case) sit at home safe in anonymity.

Also, we don't know if this man has sent similar messages to others in the past and been told that it's nice to be complimented. He might have messaged Livia the week before, and have been hoping for similar success.


:laugh: maybe he has had success in the past, but maybe he has also been a bit of a pest, only she knows the full story, I can't see that she did anything wrong in naming him.

[Kizzy]

We can only judge by what's written.

Personally I never judge.

[Tom4784]

and what he Wrote, is clearly deserving of being shamed.

When did I say he wasn't?

Can you stop with the personal remarks? It makes it very difficult to engage in any debate when you start getting personal. I have said my piece and refuse to be drawn into this any further with you.

I've not made any personal remarks, you made an extremely naive comment and I pointed it out. You keep making it personal by trying to derail the topic any time anyone challenges you.

[Kizzy]

I just hope her actions don't come back to lightly tap her on the arse......

[Kizzy]

I've not made any personal remarks, you made an extremely naive comment and I pointed it out. You keep making it personal by trying to derail the topic any time anyone challenges you.

Who are you to suggest anyones opinion is naive?

[Tom4784]

Who are you to suggest anyones opinion is naive?

Who are you to say I can't?

It is naive (and completely and utterly hyperbolic) to say that this woman has 'effectively ensured no one else will be approached in that way'. It's not an insult, i'm just commenting on the post. Whether you accept that or not is of little consequence to anyone.

[user104658]

Personally I never judge.

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[Livia]

Such naïveté.

I never said she wasn't within her rights to nip it in the bud so I'm not sure what you've been reading to suggest I haven't but nothing she has done since will benefit anyone in her situation, she's took the opportunity to make some money from it and that's all.

And that's the closest to the truth I think we're going to get.

I've talked about how hard it is working in a male-dominated environment and got nothing but ridicule from some of the people who're now outraged for this poor shrinking violet. She's a barrister... she shouldn't get so emotional about trivia. By taking it public she's made herself look vindictive and small.

[Cherie]

When did I say he wasn't?



I've not made any personal remarks, you made an extremely naive comment and I pointed it out. You keep making it personal by trying to derail the topic any time anyone challenges you.

See my response to TS which sits this point of view on its arse.

[Tom4784]

See my response to TS which sits this point of view on its arse.

Except it doesn't because you keep assuming that I'm defending the man when I'm not. He's in the wrong for acting inappropriate and should be dragged up on it and she's in the wrong for being completely opportunistic which does nothing for the cause she claims to fight for.

[arista]

It was a silly sexist message to post on her linked in, what was he thinking?



Knickers

[Crimson Dynamo]

the way it probably went was he was out for a boozy lunch and came back and did a bit of browsing and chanced his arm.

I agree with Kizzy that perhaps it was one too many "compliments" in that profession

But, she should have been far cleverer - if she wants to get on in that career, than what she did. Now she is damaged goods and its a tight nit community.

[Vanessa]

She got upest, because he complimented her appearance? Seems over the top to me. :suspect:

[Livia]

the way it probably went was he was out for a boozy lunch and came back and did a bit of browsing and chanced his arm.

I agree with Kizzy that perhaps it was one too many "compliments" in that profession

But, she should have been far cleverer - if she wants to get on in that career, than what she did. Now she is damaged goods and its a tight nit community.

Kizzy knows as much about the legal profession as you do, Trumpet.

She knew what going public with this would do... and if that message sent her over the top she should think about a change of direction, professionally.

[Northern Monkey]

to be fair she should have made a full body pic and then we could at least see her tits and arse

My intuition says they would be good.



But I bet if the guy had been 28 and as fit as a butchers dog and a lawyer she would have been all .....:fan:Exactly.I've had women compliment me at work and i did'nt go running to HR about it.Everyone(almost) likes a compliment.

[Kizzy]

Who are you to say I can't?

It is naive (and completely and utterly hyperbolic) to say that this woman has 'effectively ensured no one else will be approached in that way'. It's not an insult, i'm just commenting on the post. Whether you accept that or not is of little consequence to anyone.

I Never said you couldn't did I?

The man in question before he makes comments of that nature again no doubt so it served it's purpose.

[Kizzy]

Kizzy knows as much about the legal profession as you do, Trumpet.

She knew what going public with this would do... and if that message sent her over the top she should think about a change of direction, professionally.

Is this site for the opinions of all or just those with some direct link to the subject matter?

[Livia]

I wonder how the other barristers in her chambers feel about her? I'd be interested to know. Hope her clerk's a woman who's hyper-sensitive to compliments or she's on all the sh1t jobs.

[Lostie!]

The woman seems to have a million chips on her shoulder.

[Livia]

Is this site for the opinions of all or just those with some direct link to the subject matter?

You're right. Even when those opinions are based on absolutely nothing I would uphold your right to post them.

[Tom4784]

I Never said you couldn't did I?

The man in question before he makes comments of that nature again no doubt so it served it's purpose.

Ummm.

Who are you to suggest anyones opinion is naive?

What's this then?

[Cherie]

Exactly.I've had women compliment me at work and i did'nt go running to HR about it.Everyone(almost) likes a compliment.

You know those women though! This was some bloke off the net she doesn't know from Adam

[Niamh.]

That Adam is an awful perve though tbf

[Cherie]

That Adam is an awful perve though tbf

I have no sympathy for Adam

[smudgie]

No mention of her ageism then.
She felt the need to put in brackets the age difference.
Bloody ageist.

Perhaps LinkedIn isn't the place to be passing compliments, but her response was tad over the top.

[Livia]

No mention of her ageism then.
She felt the need to put in brackets the age difference.
Bloody ageist.

Perhaps LinkedIn isn't the place to be passing compliments, but her response was tad over the top.

Haha... excellent point Smudgie.

[Cherie]

I thought she was saying at his age he should have known better?

[kirklancaster]

Much Ado About Nothing - Unless he was a bit of a King LEER. In which case he is nothing more than a Richard The Third.

[Lostie!]

I thought she was saying at his age he should have known better?

Doesn't seem to be the case to me, it was a less a matter of her pointing out his age and more a case of her pointing out that she is half his age.

I do wonder how she'd feel about a younger man essentially telling an older woman that she's too old to be flirting with him and if she'd pull out the "misogynist" card in that case too.

[Northern Monkey]

You know those women though! This was some bloke off the net she doesn't know from Adam

I fully encourage any WOMAN of any age to compliment me over the internet or anywhere else:joker:
I promise i won't try and ridicule them on Twatter:laugh:

[Cherie]

Doesn't seem to be the case to me, it was a less a matter of her pointing out his age and more a case of her pointing out that she is half his age.

I do wonder how she'd feel about a younger man essentially telling an older woman that she's too old to be flirting with him and if she'd pull out the "misogynist" card in that case too.


Well we all interpret things differently thats what makes a debate

[Cherie]

I fully encourage any WOMAN of any age to compliment me over the internet or anywhere else:joker:
I promise i won't try and ridicule them on Twatter:laugh:

You might think twice if she turns bunny boiler on you :laugh:

[Northern Monkey]

You might think twice if she turns bunny boiler on you :laugh:

That's why the blocking function exists on most sites.In real life i'd just set my misses on em.They'd run a mile:laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

heard her on 5 live this morning

what a piece of work....


:idc:

[Livia]

I fully encourage any WOMAN of any age to compliment me over the internet or anywhere else:joker:
I promise i won't try and ridicule them on Twatter:laugh:

You look great, Northern Monkey... have you been working out?

[Northern Monkey]

You look great, Northern Monkey... have you been working out?

Why yes!How good of you to notice.You're not so bad yourself,Is that a new shampoo?

[Livia]

Why yes!How good of you to notice.You're not so bad yourself,Is that a new shampoo?

Conditioner... thanks for noticing.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Katie Hopkins ‏@KTHopkins 1 hr1 hour ago

Get over yourself love. Visit @EverydaySexism & have a futile moan to other women with VAGENDAS #charlotteproudman


:joker:

[Northern Monkey]

There are not enough compliments in life.Just people wanting to find offence in everything imo.

[armand.kay]

I would find it quit annoying if I posted a profile trying to do business and I got people messaging me about how hot I look in my pic so I can see why she's mad... but posting it on fbook and outing his name is a bit ott and unneeded.

[Cherie]

I would find it quit annoying if I posted a profile trying to do business and I got people messaging me about how hot I look in my pic so I can see why she's mad... but posting it on fbook and outing his name is a bit ott and unneeded.

That's the thing in any walk of life though you got to know who you are dealing with, as not everyone will react how you want them or expect them to and at 57 he has learned the hard way, he won't live this down for a while.

[arista]

Katie Hopkins ‏@KTHopkins 1 hr1 hour ago

Get over yourself love. Visit @EverydaySexism & have a futile moan to other women with VAGENDAS #charlotteproudman


:joker:


How Nice of her to Jump on this
I hope its on her TLCHD show tonight.

[Livia]

Katie Hopkins ‏@KTHopkins 1 hr1 hour ago

Get over yourself love. Visit @EverydaySexism & have a futile moan to other women with VAGENDAS #charlotteproudman


:joker:

First time I've ever agreed with Hopkins.

LOL @ 'Vagendas'

[arista]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/09/10/16/article-3229413-2C26FFA500000578-917_964x439.jpg
[Alexander Carter-Silk, 57, praised a picture of his fitness trainer daughter
He said on Facebook: 'Whilst I should not encourage
lascivious comments about my daughter ... Yeee gods she is hot!!'
Lawyer offended a young female barrister after calling her photo stunning
One colleague said today: 'He is not a sexist pig.
He just doesn't have a filter on his mouth']


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3229413/Is-time-quit-social-media-lawyer-called-young-female-barrister-stunning-LinkedIn-caught-commenting-photo-DAUGHTER-Yeee-gods-hot.html#ixzz3lLx8G2kv


Now Top Story on the DM

[Niamh.]

omg what a weirdo saying that about his own daughter :/

[Cherie]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/09/10/16/article-3229413-2C26FFA500000578-917_964x439.jpg
[Alexander Carter-Silk, 57, praised a picture of his fitness trainer daughter
He said on Facebook: 'Whilst I should not encourage
lascivious comments about my daughter ... Yeee gods she is hot!!'
Lawyer offended a young female barrister after calling her photo stunning
One colleague said today: 'He is not a sexist pig.
He just doesn't have a filter on his mouth']


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3229413/Is-time-quit-social-media-lawyer-called-young-female-barrister-stunning-LinkedIn-caught-commenting-photo-DAUGHTER-Yeee-gods-hot.html#ixzz3lLx8G2kv


Now Top Story on the DM

Okay that's weird

[Kizzy]

Ummm.



What's this then?

I asked a question... I didn't make any demands.

[arista]

omg what a weirdo saying that about his own daughter :/

Yes he has dug a Far Deeper Hole

[Kizzy]

You're right. Even when those opinions are based on absolutely nothing I would uphold your right to post them.

Excuse me? we have the text as a reference and I based my opinion on that the same as everyone else :/

[kirklancaster]

Yes he has dug a Far Deeper Hole

The pervert ought to disappear down it.

[Kizzy]

'A partner in one of the UK’s largest criminal law firms suggested Miss Proudman would be ‘blacklisted’ by solicitors.
Franklin Sinclair, of Tuckers Solicitors, wrote on Twitter: ‘What an awful thing to do, what kind of world do we live in when a man can’t give a lady a compliment.getalife. Nomorebriefs4u. (sic)’
When she responded saying she would not want to work for ‘sexist solicitors’, he replied: ‘I should think you’ve blacklisted yourself from more than just sexist ones!’

Grim and backwards thinking old boys club, Well done Miss Proudman I hope this sees a change in these dinosaurs :/


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3229413/Is-time-quit-social-media-lawyer-called-young-female-barrister-stunning-LinkedIn-caught-commenting-photo-DAUGHTER-Yeee-gods-hot.html#ixzz3lLx8G2kv

[the truth]

she ageist and hes not sexist , typical feminist drivel and reverse sexism where women can say what they like and men cant.

[Tom4784]

she ageist and hes not sexist , typical feminist drivel and reverse sexism where women can say what they like and men cant.

Reverse sexism is like reverse racism, it doesn't exist. Those kinds of terms are always made up by the majority so they can demonise the ACTUAL minorities and pretend to be oppressed when they aren't.

[Tom4784]

I asked a question... I didn't make any demands.

Your intentions were clear enough, dear.

[the truth]

Revers sexism is like reverse racism, it doesn't exist. Those kinds of terms are always made up by the majority so they can demonise the ACTUAL minorities and pretend to be oppressed when they aren't.

it does exist youre lying. could a man sue a woman for complimenting his appearance? the field is not level its wholly biased against men which is why over 80% of men lose their kids their home and a lifetimes income in divorce cases...its why male suicides are at a record high and 4 times the rate of women, its why 50 times as much is spent on womens charities, its why 3 times as much si spent on womens health and cancer , even though men die 5 years younger in every nation on earth. you will duly ignore this bias against men because you don't care

[Tom4784]

SELF ENTITLEMENT

There we go.

[the truth]

There we go.

she sure is full of that

[user104658]

:joker: why is he openly checking out his own daughter on facebook?

[letmein]

What an illiterate creep. Perhaps he was typing with one hand.

[Northern Monkey]

she ageist and hes not sexist , typical feminist drivel and reverse sexism where women can say what they like and men cant.

I would'nt even call it 'reverse' sexism,Just plain old sexism tbh.

[kirklancaster]

What an illiterate creep. Perhaps he was typing with one hand.

:laugh:

[Nedusa]

He said her picture was stunning he was paying her a compliment,nothing sexually suggestive or offensive in that.

She completely overreacted and punished this guy publicly...why ??

She is the one with the problem , man hating bitch so far up her own arse...

[Josy]

27-year-old human rights lawyer

The told me everything I need to know.

[arista]

He said her picture was stunning he was paying her a compliment,nothing sexually suggestive or offensive in that.

She completely overreacted and punished this guy publicly...why ??

She is the one with the problem , man hating bitch so far up her own arse...


Bad Times with men

[Kizzy]

Your intentions were clear enough, dear.

Don't patronise me because you misunderstood my post.

[Cherie]

He said her picture was stunning he was paying her a compliment,nothing sexually suggestive or offensive in that.

She completely overreacted and punished this guy publicly...why ??

She is the one with the problem , man hating bitch so far up her own arse...

Because quite possibly as it is a professional site she wasn't to happy that he overlooked all her academic and work achievements and focused on her looks? as an introductory email on that particular site it was insulting, maybe he got the site confused with match.com :shrug:

[user104658]

Because quite possibly as it is a professional site she wasn't to happy that he overlooked all her academic and work achievements and focused on her looks? as an introductory email on that particular site it was insulting, maybe he got the site confused with match.com :shrug:
I agree with that, not because I think it's a problem that he complimented her picture, but because that's ALL he did. If he had messaged her in the spirit of what the site is supposed to be about, to make that sort of contact, written a big message focusing on her professional expertise and with a good reason that they should be contacts, and then he had added at the bottom "Oh, by the way, great profile picture!"... Then I don't see why it should be a problem.

However, the fact that he quite clearly had no interest in messaging her other than to creep, is what makes it a problem. It's not Tinder.

[Nedusa]

Because quite possibly as it is a professional site she wasn't to happy that he overlooked all her academic and work achievements and focused on her looks? as an introductory email on that particular site it was insulting, maybe he got the site confused with match.com :shrug:

Disagree.....Linkedin is still a social media website and as such there is room for a certain amount of informality. what he said was complimentary NOT sexist . she has taken a friendly remark and decided to attack this man publicly, label him a sexist a pervert etc..

This is an outrageous attack on this man's character over a friendly innocuous remark.

NOT many Solicitors will want to deal with this slightly deranged feminist after her strange reaction to this man's remark.

[Kizzy]

• LinkedIn lawyers: Did this man's weak sexism really warrant perv-shaming?

Earlier this year she used the left-wing website Left Foot Forward to explain that she was a campaigner for feminism, not equality, because: “Men live and work in a brutal society, which is maintained through stratified social order based on ritual humiliation, gentleman’s clubs, fights, rites of passage, sexism, and banter.
“When women enter the male realm whether law, politics, or a construction site, they find themselves in a repugnant world in which their only means of survival is by undergoing a fundamental transformation leaving them with little opportunity to make any change.”

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/11857210/Lawyer-who-shamed-barrister-over-sexist-LinkedIn-email-believes-men-make-workplaces-a-repugnant-world.html

What do you know perv shaming is actually a thing :laugh: The torygraph article backs up Charlottes view brilliantly.

Here is an article where fat shaming is discussed, something that is frowned upon even though nobody is ever specifically targeted, if that's so acceptable then why is 'perv shaming' so unacceptable?
Is it really that different... women singled out for their looks as opposed to what's between their ears.
Could it be that the usual victims of fat shaming are women and the the 'victims' of perv shaming men? (I appreciate it sometimes works the other way around)
Fat shamers can shout from the rooftops as it's now socially acceptable to be #bodyconfident, why can't perv shamers be afforded the same courtesy to be #brainconfident and reject the accepted social norm of being objectified if you don't have a face like a bag of spanners.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/womens-life/11853311/Perv-shamed-LinkedIn-lawyer-Weak-sexism-that-didnt-warrent-this.html

[Kizzy]

Disagree.....Linkedin is still a social media website and as such there is room for a certain amount of informality. what he said was complimentary NOT sexist . she has taken a friendly remark and decided to attack this man publicly, label him a sexist a pervert etc..

This is an outrageous attack on this man's character over a friendly innocuous remark.

NOT many Solicitors will want to deal with this slightly deranged feminist after her strange reaction to this man's remark.

Apparently it wasn't even based on her looks at all...

'He’s now delivered a statement on the subject, saying he meant the quality of her photo was ‘stunning’ rather than Proudman herself.
“My comment was aimed at the professional quality of the presentation on LinkedIn which was unfortunately misinterpreted,” he said.'

And if you believe that.. :joker:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/womens-life/11853311/Perv-shamed-LinkedIn-lawyer-Weak-sexism-that-didnt-warrent-this.html

[Niamh.]

Apparently it wasn't even based on her looks at all...

'He’s now delivered a statement on the subject, saying he meant the quality of her photo was ‘stunning’ rather than Proudman herself.
“My comment was aimed at the professional quality of the presentation on LinkedIn which was unfortunately misinterpreted,” he said.'

And if you believe that.. :joker:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/womens-life/11853311/Perv-shamed-LinkedIn-lawyer-Weak-sexism-that-didnt-warrent-this.html

yeah right :laugh: If that was true why did he say that he was being Politically incorrect? Idiot lol

[user104658]

yeah right [emoji23] If that was true why did he say that he was being Politically incorrect? Idiot lol
Autocorrect. He actually meant to type "Photographically Current", as he was admiring the fact that she had clearly made use of the latest technology.

[Niamh.]

Autocorrect. He actually meant to type "Photographically Current", as he was admiring the fact that she had clearly made use of the latest technology.

Oh I see, makes perfect sense :hehe:

[user104658]

His follow up messages, "Will you consider a threesome with me and my daughter" and "I want to blast that fringe off with my salty load"... Have yet to be explained.

[Cherie]

His follow up messages, "Will you consider a threesome with me and my daughter" and "I want to blast that fringe off with my salty load"... Have yet to be explained.

:laugh2:

[Kizzy]

She said she was worried about the controversy damaging her career, calling the backlash she had experienced a “silencing mechanism”.

“It prevents people coming forward and reporting sexism and even sexual harassment,” she said.

Proudman was praised by Polly Sprenger, a barrister specialising in corporate and economic crime, who said: “It’s a brave and principled barrister who is prepared to put her personal position on the line to defend her opinion. It is not easy at the bar to take on a senior partner at a law firm who might have instructed you.

“The bar is a slow-moving aircraft carrier of a profession, and it is difficult to turn it around. She does everyone a favour by standing up to the kind of people who think that behaviour is acceptable.”

The barrister at the centre of a sexism storm after she objected to a solicitor’s “unacceptable and misogynist” comments on her LinkedIn profile says she has been overwhelmed by emails and tweets from other women reporting similar offensive behaviour in the workplace.

A report published by the bar council in July, examining the experience of self-employed female barristers, found that “experiences of inappropriate behaviour within the profession continue to exist”

“I think that too many men at the bar feel they are existing in a children’s playground,” one woman told the researchers. “They think they can say grossly disrespectful things because nobody is going to stop them and nothing is going to be said about it.”

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http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/11/barrister-at-centre-of-sexism-storm-overwhelmed-by-support

[Cherie]

She said she was worried about the controversy damaging her career, calling the backlash she had experienced a “silencing mechanism”.

“It prevents people coming forward and reporting sexism and even sexual harassment,” she said.

Proudman was praised by Polly Sprenger, a barrister specialising in corporate and economic crime, who said: “It’s a brave and principled barrister who is prepared to put her personal position on the line to defend her opinion. It is not easy at the bar to take on a senior partner at a law firm who might have instructed you.

“The bar is a slow-moving aircraft carrier of a profession, and it is difficult to turn it around. She does everyone a favour by standing up to the kind of people who think that behaviour is acceptable.”

The barrister at the centre of a sexism storm after she objected to a solicitor’s “unacceptable and misogynist” comments on her LinkedIn profile says she has been overwhelmed by emails and tweets from other women reporting similar offensive behaviour in the workplace.

A report published by the bar council in July, examining the experience of self-employed female barristers, found that “experiences of inappropriate behaviour within the profession continue to exist”

“I think that too many men at the bar feel they are existing in a children’s playground,” one woman told the researchers. “They think they can say grossly disrespectful things because nobody is going to stop them and nothing is going to be said about it.”

:clap1: :clap1:

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/11/barrister-at-centre-of-sexism-storm-overwhelmed-by-support


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[the truth]

what a load of nonsense,, women are infinitely cruder in the work place but men are not so petty as to complain about every little thing

[JoshBB]

I don't think it is sexist but definitely stupid, she's a lawyer not a model..

[the truth]

I don't think it is sexist but definitely stupid, she's a lawyer not a model..

so what?

[Crimson Dynamo]

if i were looking for someone in her field I would avoid her like the plague

I would be wanting a canny legal expert and not a priggish twit like she appears to be

[the truth]

if i were looking for someone in her field I would avoid her like the plague

I would be wanting a canny legal expert and not a priggish twit like she appears to be

100% agree, shes actually damaging womens chances in the workplace...I would never in a million years employ such a petty attention sekeing prat as her....imagine everyone made that much fuss any time they got any compliment...get a life

[Crimson Dynamo]

her failing is she assumed intention with no evidence

and she is meant to be a lawyer?

what a joke