This scares the hell out of me

[Amy Jade]

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I literally feel scared of what could happen if we keep allowing people over here :(

[Northern Monkey]

Yep!The stuff the BBC does'nt wanna show us because it does'nt fit in with their pretty little picture of starving Syrian families fleeing their war torn home.

[lostalex]

yup... no mention of these people's culture, their culture of thinking women should be slaves, that gay men should be killed, that Islam should be the law of the land...

I hope everyone enjoys the nice feeling of welcoming people in, look how generous we are... but in 2 years, 5 years, 10 years, when these people start asserting their rights, and influencing their culture, it will bring europe back a century.

[Northern Monkey]

yup... no mention of these people's culture, their culture of thinking women should be slaves, that gay men should be killed, that Islam should be the law of the land...

I hope everyone enjoys the nice feeling of welcoming people in, look how generous we are... but in 2 years, 5 years, 10 years, when these people start asserting their rights, and influencing their culture, it will bring europe back a century.
Exactly!Political correctness and 'sensitivity' to other cultures could easily send the balance of power in the wrong direction.There are already a large contingent of people who want sharia law over here which would be devastating for everyones rights apart from bearded straight males.

[user104658]

"The human race as a whole is utterly rancid" quota fulfilled for the day and it's only 11am! Thanks for that.

[Crimson Dynamo]

i just love how all the young men left these war torn countries first...

[Northern Monkey]

i just love how all the young men left these war torn countries first...

Yeah i would hate to have seen em on the Titanic when the captain said 'women and children first'

[Kizzy]

Can my thread on the refugees be opened again if it's back up for discussion please?

[Niamh.]

what thread was that? I can't find it

[Tom4784]

It's easy enough to cherry pick stories and highlight a minority to demonise an entire group of people.

[Kizzy]

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=275716&highlight=


It was this one Niamh, it was posted when Katie Hopkins first described the refugees as cockroaches... This thread just expands on that view it seems.

[Niamh.]

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=275716&highlight=


It was this one Niamh, it was posted when Katie Hopkins first described the refugees as cockroaches... This thread just expands on that view it seems.

Ok, I'm going to have to clean it a bit first though

[Kizzy]

Ok, I'm going to have to clean it a bit first though

Thankyou :)

[Northern Monkey]

It's easy enough to cherry pick stories and highlight a minority to demonise an entire group of people.

That's true but it's also very easy to ignore half of the story which is what the BBC and other news channels seem to do in order to paint and unbalanced picture of what's really going on.

[Tom4784]

That's true but it's also very easy to ignore half of the story which is what the BBC and other news channels seem to do in order to paint and unbalanced picture of what's really going on.

If this activity was anything more than an extreme minority it would be reported on since there's a lot of anti-immigrant sentiment around and the news caters how it reports on events depending on it's audience.

Describing it as 'half of the story' is likely hyperbole.

[Niamh.]

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[Kizzy]

That's true but it's also very easy to ignore half of the story which is what the BBC and other news channels seem to do in order to paint and unbalanced picture of what's really going on.

Are you suggesting the UK media after ignoring the issue for months then demonising and mocking those who have died trying to flee have done a complete turnaround.. Why would they do that?

[Northern Monkey]

Are you suggesting the UK media after ignoring the issue for months then demonising and mocking those who have died trying to flee have done a complete turnaround.. Why would they do that?

Are you saying that there are no negative activities being carried out by these 'refugees' at all and all the footage in the above video is fake?
If it is real then why are'nt we seeing any of it in the main stream media?
That footage is more than news worthy.
I would like to see both sides of these refugees activities so as to get a balanced view of just what they're getting up to when they hit European shores.
The dead kid on the beach made all our hearts bleed but is only half of the story.

[Kizzy]

Are you saying that there are no negative activities being carried out by these 'refugees' at all and all the footage in the above video is fake?
If it is real then why are'nt we seeing any of it in the main stream media?
That footage is more than news worthy.
I would like to see both sides of these refugees activities so as to get a balanced view of just what they're getting up to when they hit European shores.
The dead kid on the beach made all our hearts bleed but is only half of the story.

Clutching at anything that puts the refugees in a bad light... That's what I see here.

[Northern Monkey]

Clutching at anything that puts the refugees in a bad light... That's what I see here.

Dismissing anything that puts the refugees in a bad light is also what i see here.As i said,There are two sides to the story.

[JoshBB]

With a title on the video like that, it tells you that they aren't exactly uploading this video from a politically-neutral perspective. Don't let people exploit your fears and turn them into prejudices.

[Kizzy]

What side is this?... it's just some mish mash of misinformation :/

[bots]

The video is pure propaganda and should be viewed as such. There is always an element of social unrest where large groups of people are concerned. However, those that believe we can integrate thousands of refugees in to our society from a diametrically opposite society, without serious issue, are kidding themselves.

What needs to be weighed up is the human benefit gained by these individuals versus the social unrest that it will generate here. I can't answer that. I'm not sure anyone can.

[Kizzy]

The video is pure propaganda and should be viewed as such. There is always an element of social unrest where large groups of people are concerned. However, those that believe we can integrate thousands of refugees in to our society from a diametrically opposite society, without serious issue, are kidding themselves.

What needs to be weighed up is the human benefit gained by these individuals versus the social unrest that it will generate here. I can't answer that. I'm not sure anyone can.

Define human benefit and explain why we have to offset it with social unrest. At the moment it sounds like are these people worth anything we just don't want johnny foreigner here.

[bots]

Define human benefit and explain why we have to offset it with social unrest.

human benefit - are they going to starve if they remain, are they going to be shot, etc etc

social unrest - disrupting the running of uk society, not just immediately, but for however long the refugees will be resident. The immigration department now insists that those coming to the UK are educated in the social values of the UK. Will this be applied to these refugees? What are the increased risks of terrorism in our society etc etc etc

These things can be measured, and should be, before we jump to any rash decisions to accept refugees.

[Kizzy]

human benefit - are they going to starve if they remain, are they going to be shot, etc etc

social unrest - disrupting the running of uk society, not just immediately, but for however long the refugees will be resident. The immigration department now insists that those coming to the UK are educated in the social values of the UK. Will this be applied to these refugees? What are the increased risks of terrorism in our society etc etc etc

These things can be measured, and should be, before we jump to any rash decisions to accept refugees.

We didn't jump to anything. there was a humanitarian crisis caused by war and bombs...
Social values will be fine I'm sure, maybe the decision to take refugees direct from the camps is a counter terrorism strategy.

[bots]

We didn't jump to anything. there was a humanitarian crisis caused by war and bombs...
Social values will be fine I'm sure, maybe the decision to take refugees direct from the camps is a counter terrorism strategy.

But its pretty obvious those crossing the borders in southern Europe are not humanitarian refugees, and many, many of them will make their way to the UK.

If I'm understanding correctly, those being rescued from refugee camps will be vetted before entry into the UK and that's fine, but I bet the same checks are not carried out that are carried out for standard immigrants.

Also, I've seen no plan for where these refugees will be settled. The government have made a serious mess of that in the past, so I have no confidence that they can get it right now.

[Kizzy]

But its pretty obvious those crossing the borders in southern Europe are not humanitarian refugees, and many, many of them will make their way to the UK.

If I'm understanding correctly, those being rescued from refugee camps will be vetted before entry into the UK and that's fine, but I bet the same checks are not carried out that are carried out for standard immigrants.

Also, I've seen no plan for where these refugees will be settled. The government have made a serious mess of that in the past, so I have no confidence that they can get it right now.

If they haven't been vetted they will indeed be illegal immigrants and if they are not found to be refugees they will not be given asylum.
That will be an issue for local councils I would have thought.