corbyn wont sing God save the queen?

[the truth]

what do you think of that? are you offended or disappointed or do you support him not singing it?

I happen to think its the worst anthem in the world. Ive never sung it. but give me Jerusalem, land of hope and glory , abide by me, heck even never walk alone and im in floods of tears

our English anthem should be one of these classics not a monotonous mega boring homage to an evil institution that represents nothing but war, theft , rape and pillage
your thoughts?

[armand.kay]

Yeah our national anthem is kind of lame and doesn't really say anything about the country and its people.

[lostalex]

i prefer the "my country tis of thee" version. it's not a horrible tune. My country tis of thee is all about how the land belongs to all people, and we all have a beautiful land to claim, instead of just worshipping 1 unelected person. it's just the lyrics that ruin it. it makes you sound like a sycophant singing a song in unison to worship one person who did nothing of value deserving of being worshipped. It's more like a hymn.

j3LYZlDwRJ4

[Scarlett.]

I don't give a damn, as long as he's a better leader than Millibland was

[the truth]

I don't give a damn, as long as he's a better leader than Millibland was

yes but what do you think of God save the queen?

[the truth]

i prefer the "my country tis of thee" version. it's not a horrible tune. My country tis of thee is all about how the land belongs to all people, and we all have a beautiful land to claim, instead of just worshipping 1 unelected person. it's just the lyrics that ruin it. it makes you sound like a sycophant singing a song in unison to worship one person who did nothing of value deserving of being worshipped. It's more like a hymn.

j3LYZlDwRJ4

100% agree

[Scarlett.]

Its just a song, lol.

[Black Dagger]

It's ****ing dirge and I don't blame him x

[Mystic Mock]

It doesn't bother me personally, his history bugs me more.

But I do sense that a lot of the general public will not like this move.

[bots]

The national anthem is not just a song. The national anthem is a celebration of the nation, a symbol of unity. For him to refuse to sing the anthem means he doesn't believe in the nation.

Corbyn is quite frankly a complete ass hole.

[the truth]

Its just a song, lol.

way to avoid the question? do you like it , do you sing it?

[the truth]

The national anthem is not just a song. The national anthem is a celebration of the nation, a symbol of unity. For him to refuse to sing the anthem means he doesn't believe in the nation.

Corbyn is quite frankly a complete ass hole.

what a joke it doesn't represent anything? its a song about 1 person on throne, its embarassing

[Jack_]

I'm no royalist (or republican either) but I actually quite like the song and I will and have sung it

However, I understand why some might not like it and anybody is free to choose not to sing it if they so wish, that's their prerogative.

The national anthem is not just a song. The national anthem is a celebration of the nation, a symbol of unity. For him to refuse to sing the anthem means he doesn't believe in the nation.

Corbyn is quite frankly a complete ass hole.

No, it means he doesn't believe in the monarchy, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that

[Northern Monkey]

Our country was built on monarchy.If he is ashamed of that fact then he really should feck off to somewhere he is not so ashamed of.Imo.

[lewis111]

I think he should've just sang it like what you gaining from not sining it tryna develop this edgy look. but yeah it's a awful song could do with a ncki minaj verse in the middle

[kirklancaster]

He is a fekcing disgrace - and a treasonous disgrace at that.

His own excuse that he was; "Remaining silent out of respect to the fallen" during the singing of our National Anthem is B.S. Everyone else there remained silent at the appropriate time but sang our National Anthem when protocol demanded it.

He publicly mourned the death of Osama Bin Laden but disgraces a memorial service to OUR fallen heroes.

He will prove to be the final nail in the coffin of the Labour Party - what was once a respectable and respected genuine party.

[smudgie]

I personally don't mind it, quite like it in fact.
I do think it is down to personal choice, however when I see footballers etc not singing it when representing their country I find it a bit weird.
Jeremy not singing it was his choice, but I doubt it will have done him any favours, isn't it something like 80% of the people support the Royalty:shrug:

[Crimson Dynamo]

He does not believe in a monarchy so its no surprise that he did not sing it - had he sung it..now that would be a story

[kirklancaster]

He does not believe in a monarchy so its no surprise that he did not sing it - had he sung it..now that would be a story

Yeah - thinking about it, perhaps it WOULD have deen more honest and forthright of him had he chanted or sang; "Allahu Akbar".

[user104658]

I'll just copy and paste most of this from the other thread :joker: ;

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You can love this country and believe it shouldn't have a monarchy. No, more than that, you can believe that the monarchy should be dismantled BECAUSE you love this country. He's not refusing to sing the song because it's the national anthem, he's refusing to sing it for the same reason that I wouldn't sing it: because he doesn't want to sing a song of worship for a bunch of elitist, murderous villains.

It's a political catch 22... A monarchy monopoly. Essentially it's saying that you can't be properly engaged in UK politics if you refuse to acknowledge the monarchy as a valid political system. And so if you believe there shouldn't be one? Tough. Because then you're not a proper politician and so will never be in a position to try to change it. No. It's 2015 and major political factions should be able to (and just SHOULD, in my opinion) openly reject the monarchy.

I mean just look at the national anthem if you want to know why I will never sing it. It's about precisely three things. Elitism, War-mongering, and a fictional man in the sky. Not for me, thanks, not any of it. I get that some people love the cuddly old Queen, are "proud" of our country's history as bloodthirsty conquerors, and believe in said men in the sky... And that's fine... But kindly don't force your prayers upon others with the caveat that they're "treasonous" or "anti-patriotic" if they won't comply.

If all statesmen must fall in line with protocol - legitimising the monarchy - then how does one make a (meaningful) political stand against that monarchy?

I for one have had enough of cardboard cut-out politicians playing along with these outdated charades.

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Tadaaaa

[arista]

I am sure he can correct it
next time.

He will be picked on - whatever he does

[kirklancaster]

I'll just copy and paste most of this from the other thread :joker: ;

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You can love this country and believe it shouldn't have a monarchy. No, more than that, you can believe that the monarchy should be dismantled BECAUSE you love this country. He's not refusing to sing the song because it's the national anthem, he's refusing to sing it for the same reason that I wouldn't sing it: because he doesn't want to sing a song of worship for a bunch of elitist, murderous villains.

It's a political catch 22... A monarchy monopoly. Essentially it's saying that you can't be properly engaged in UK politics if you refuse to acknowledge the monarchy as a valid political system. And so if you believe there shouldn't be one? Tough. Because then you're not a proper politician and so will never be in a position to try to change it. No. It's 2015 and major political factions should be able to (and just SHOULD, in my opinion) openly reject the monarchy.

I mean just look at the national anthem if you want to know why I will never sing it. It's about precisely three things. Elitism, War-mongering, and a fictional man in the sky. Not for me, thanks, not any of it. I get that some people love the cuddly old Queen, are "proud" of our country's history as bloodthirsty conquerors, and believe in said men in the sky... And that's fine... But kindly don't force your prayers upon others with the caveat that they're "treasonous" or "anti-patriotic" if they won't comply.

If all statesmen must fall in line with protocol - legitimising the monarchy - then how does one make a (meaningful) political stand against that monarchy?

I for one have had enough of cardboard cut-out politicians playing along with these outdated charades.

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Tadaaaa

And I will copy and paste my response:

By lawfully CHANGING the constitution - in Corbyn's case ONCE he has attained the office of PRIME MINISTER.

Wait: I hear music.... Someone singing. I can see two figures on horseback approaching....

"To dream, the impossible dream..."

:laugh:

[Northern Monkey]

He is a fekcing disgrace - and a treasonous disgrace at that.

His own excuse that he was; "Remaining silent out of respect to the fallen" during the singing of our National Anthem is B.S. Everyone else there remained silent at the appropriate time but sang our National Anthem when protocol demanded it.

He publicly mourned the death of Osama Bin Laden but disgraces a memorial service to OUR fallen heroes.

He will prove to be the final nail in the coffin of the Labour Party - what was once a respectable and respected genuine party.Yep and you have to wonder exactly which fallen it is he's 'paying respect' to by refusing to sing our national anthem.

[Samuel.]

The reaction this has gotten is ridiculous. Why the **** does it matter. Plenty of people don't sing it, I wouldn't myself, and it's full in their right not too. It's infuriated me seeing people supposedly stunned and appalled by this. Get a grip.

[user104658]

The reaction this has gotten is ridiculous. Why the **** does it matter. Plenty of people don't sing it, I wouldn't myself, and it's full in their right not too. It's infuriated me seeing people supposedly stunned and appalled by this. Get a grip.

Exactly the same people would be sniggering "Oh ho hee hee :hehe: what a hypocrite!!!" if he HAD sung it :shrug:

[user104658]

Yep and you have to wonder exactly which fallen it is he's 'paying respect' to by refusing to sing our national anthem.

I have to wonder how it's respectful to fallen soldiers to sing a song celebrating the filthy system that took them to war in the first place.

God save the Queen
Send her victorious
Never mind the cannon-fodder who died in her name
and in the name of Kings and Queens before her,
Long to reign over us
God save the Queen

Is that not how it goes?

[kirklancaster]

The reaction this has gotten is ridiculous. Why the **** does it matter. Plenty of people don't sing it, I wouldn't myself, and it's full in their right not too. It's infuriated me seeing people supposedly stunned and appalled by this. Get a grip.

No - It is NOT 'in his rights' not to. As Leader of The Labour Party attending THE memorial honouring our fallen war dead in his OFFICIAL capacity he has no personal rights when such rights are counter to the costitution of this country.

All those with a brain marginally larger than a peanut KNOW that Corbyn was ill-at-ease even HAVING to attend the ceremony, let alone comply with his duties, because it is in his facial expressions and body language.

He'd have been much happier sitting in tent somewhere in the Middle East with his pal Ismail Haniyeh or one of the other terrorist bastards whose cause he so openly embraces.

Personally, I wish he'd hurry up and **** off over there - before his fifth column plans have any chance of accelerating the end of our country.

[kirklancaster]

I have to wonder how it's respectful to fallen soldiers to sing a song celebrating the filthy system that took them to war in the first place.

God save the Queen
Send her victorious
Never mind the cannon-fodder who died in her name
and in the name of Kings and Queens before her,
Long to reign over us
God save the Queen

Is that not how it goes?

:facepalm: Why don't you just MOVE countries T.S.?

If it wasn't for all the 'Cannon Fodder' who "died in her name" you would not be at liberty right now to post your views.

The Queen is a FIGUREHEAD. She PERSONALLY does not send anyone anywhere.

Our poor servicemen and women are risking their lives as I write, to STOP the evil, inhuman scum which is IS and other terrorist killers from subjugating the entire world, and without their heroism, courage and sacrifice these barbaric bastards would be infinitely closer to parading down The Mall displaying severed heads by the hundred.

[user104658]

No - It is NOT 'in his rights' not to. As Leader of The Labour Party attending THE memorial honouring our fallen war dead in his OFFICIAL capacity he has no personal rights when such rights are counter to the costitution of this country.

I will wait, with great anticipation, your quote from the UK constitution that states that political officials "have no right" to refuse to sing the national anthem. Well, I'll wait for a little while. I highly doubt it's in there. Therefore, yes, it is his right.



He'd have been much happier sitting in tent somewhere in the Middle East with his pal Ismail Haniyeh or one of the other terrorist bastards whose cause he so openly embraces.

Personally, I wish he'd hurry up and **** off over there - before his fifth column plans have any chance of accelerating the end of our country.

You're starting to become a parody of yourself, Kirk :joker: :joker:. Seriously - when you pepper your posts with extremist nonsense like this, you completely undermine any half-decent comments you might have made elsewhere :shrug:.

[Northern Monkey]

I have to wonder how it's respectful to fallen soldiers to sing a song celebrating the filthy system that took them to war in the first place.

God save the Queen
Send her victorious
Never mind the cannon-fodder who died in her name
and in the name of Kings and Queens before her,
Long to reign over us
God save the Queen

Is that not how it goes?Wether he agrees with the monarchy or not is irrellevant.The national anthem was part of the ceremony paying respects to British fallen soldiers.He has offended many veterens who are still alive today.
If i go to a funeral i join in with the prayers and hymns out of respect for the person who's funeral it is even though i'm not religious.
Not just that but he is there in his proffessional capacity as leader of the labour party and was representing his party.I would bet the majority if not all of the rest of the Labour party would have sung the anthem to show their respect.He has not represented the views of his party just his own personal vendetta against the queen and possibly country while insulting our veterans.

[user104658]

:facepalm: Why don't you just MOVE countries T.S.?

If it wasn't for all the 'Cannon Fodder' who "died in her name" you would not be at liberty right now to post your views.

The Queen is a FIGUREHEAD. She PERSONALLY does not send anyone anywhere.

Our poor servicemen and women are risking their lives as I write, to STOP the evil, inhuman scum which is IS and other terrorist killers from subjugating the entire world, and without their heroism, courage and sacrifice these barbaric bastards would be infinitely closer to parading down The Mall displaying severed heads by the hundred.

I have full respect for our military and know full well what they have done for us in the past, in the wars that have been justified, which many (although NOT ALL) are.

I have no respect at all for the Monarchy or anything that it stands for. Oh and also, I would point out that these ceremonies are generally to honour ALL historical "war dead", and the Monarchy merely being a figurehead position is a relatively new thing, in historical terms, so whilst soldiers haven't technically gone to war for THIS queen, they certainly have gone to war on the whims of monarchs of the past.

My main point was that the National Anthem glorifies War and Conquest in its lyrics and, therefore, using it to honour those killed in war seems, to me, like it might be considered to be "in bad taste"...

Final point would be; as the Queen is a FIGUREHEAD and she PERSONALLY is merely ornamental... it just confirms that the whole thing is a pointless display of charade and tradition that has no place at all in modern politics, and again, for that reason, I fully support any politician in refusing to play along with such utter bull****.

[kirklancaster]

I will wait, with great anticipation, your quote from the UK constitution that states that political officials "have no right" to refuse to sing the national anthem. Well, I'll wait for a little while. I highly doubt it's in there. Therefore, yes, it is his right.





You're starting to become a parody of yourself, Kirk :joker: :joker:. Seriously - when you pepper your posts with extremist nonsense like this, you completely undermine any half-decent comments you might have made elsewhere :shrug:.

YOU lecturing me on 'extremist nonsense' T.S. LOL & LMFAO. YOUR posts are filled with over-simplistic meaningless, often hysterical comments which have NO actual foundation in reality.

My comments on Corbyn are based on FACTS as are ALL my posts.

[user104658]

If i go to a funeral i join in with the prayers and hymns out of respect for the person who's funeral it is even though i'm not religious.

On that, then, we fundamentally differ; I don't think lying and compromising your beliefs is respectful to anyone at all, in any ciscumstance.

[user104658]

YOU lecturing me on 'extremist nonsense' T.S. LOL & LMFAO. YOUR posts are filled with over-simplistic meaningless, often hysterical comments which have NO actual foundation in reality.

My comments on Corbyn are based on FACTS as are ALL my posts.

"He'd have been much happier sitting in tent somewhere in the Middle East". It's extremist ****ing nonsense Kirk.

I've also (literally) never gotten "hysterical" about anything at all on here :shrug:. You're the one foaming at the mouth in 70% of threads...

[Northern Monkey]

On that, then, we fundamentally differ; I don't think lying and compromising your beliefs is respectful to anyone at all, in any ciscumstance.

I may not believe the words in the prayers or hymns but if it helps to comfort the family and loved ones of the deceased and if the deceased believed in god too then i think it is a way to show your compassion and respect for them.I don't have to believe in it to sing it.I don't choose to go to church at any other time but if i'm there i'm gonna join in.When in Rome etc etc

[Kizzy]

I may not believe the words in the prayers or hymns but if it helps to comfort the family and loved ones of the deceased and if the deceased believed in god too then i think it is a way to show your compassion and respect for them.I don't have to believe in it to sing it.I don't choose to go to church at any other time but if i'm there i'm gonna join in.When in Rome etc etc

When in Rome.... is that just another way of saying kowtow to social norms regardless of personal principles?

I believe he's right to sing or not sing whatever he pleases, it will be used as another stick to beat him with as here we hate any forms of individuality or freedom of thought seemingly.

[kirklancaster]

When in Rome.... is that just another way of saying kowtow to social norms regardless of personal principles?

I believe he's right to sing or not sing whatever he pleases, it will be used as another stick to beat him with as here we hate any forms of individuality or freedom of thought seemingly.

Well there's a surprise.

[Northern Monkey]

When in Rome.... is that just another way of saying kowtow to social norms regardless of personal principles?

I believe he's right to sing or not sing whatever he pleases, it will be used as another stick to beat him with as here we hate any forms of individuality or freedom of thought seemingly.

It does'nt hurt or offend me to sing a hymn and it makes other people feel better.It is win win.It would not hurt Corbyn to sing the anthem and show a little respect and not offend our vets and families of our fallen vets.Imo.

[bots]

When in Rome.... is that just another way of saying kowtow to social norms regardless of personal principles?

I believe he's right to sing or not sing whatever he pleases, it will be used as another stick to beat him with as here we hate any forms of individuality or freedom of thought seemingly.

He is in a different position to the average person in the street though. He is leader of a political party. With that comes responsibility.

To me, its just a continuation of the dick head he has been all these years. He has always been anti establishment, and he is now a leader and representative of that establishment, sticking up 2 fingers at it. Its a joke, and the guy is a giant douche

[Tom4784]

It's a **** anthem tbh. Some people are really desperate for a stick to beat him with.

As long as he gets the Tories out of Downing Street then he can sing whatever the **** he likes.

[Kizzy]

It does'nt hurt or offend me to sing a hymn and it makes other people feel better.It is win win.It would not hurt Corbyn to sing the anthem and show a little respect and not offend our vets and families of our fallen vets.Imo.

It doesn't mean anything of the kind... you're projecting your own interpretation of his actions here only, he has explained he was thinking of the fallen so why must he be warbling 'God save the queen' to do this?
What you would or wouldn't do in this instance is of no consequence.

[Kizzy]

Well there's a surprise.

I have an opinion.... what's the surprise?

[Northern Monkey]

It doesn't mean anything of the kind... you're projecting your own interpretation of his actions here only, he has explained he was thinking of the fallen so why must he be warbling 'God save the queen' to do this?
What you would or wouldn't do in this instance is of no consequence.

Veterans HAVE been offended by this.

[Kizzy]

Veterans HAVE been offended by this.

Monarchists have been offended by this the fact that they are veterans too is unfortunate, he was thinking of all service personnel past and present are they all offended?

[lostalex]

This Corbyn guy must be stopped! HE'S TEARING THE COUNTRY APART!

[Northern Monkey]

Monarchists have been offended by this the fact that they are veterans too is unfortunate, he was thinking of all service personnel past and present are they all offended?

I'd bet most if not all would be.These people lay down their lives for us and he can't even sing a song to show them he's grateful.Nobody's asking him to lay in a desert taking fire from AK's.Just to sing a song to outwardly show his appreciation for those that do.

[Kizzy]

I'd bet most if not all would be.These people lay down their lives for us and he can't even sing a song to show them he's grateful.Nobody's asking him to lay in a desert taking fire from AK's.Just to sing a song to outwardly show his appreciation for those that do.

Again you're projecting, a song does not show anything.
Actions speak louder than words, talking to people.. even people we are having major conflicts with.. it's what statesmen/women do.

[Tom4784]

I don't understand what choosing not to sing a song about the Monarchy has to do with disrespecting veterans.

Reaching is a word that springs to mind.

[Northern Monkey]

Again you're projecting, a song does not show anything.
Actions speak louder than words, talking to people.. even people we are having major conflicts with.. it's what statesmen/women do.

Yeah i bet he's more than happy to do that....

[Kizzy]

Yeah i bet he's more than happy to do that....

Well of course that's his job... what's the alternative, bombs and more refugees?

[arista]

Feck Me


BBC2HD Andrew Neil - Shut Up

Stop pushing this.

[arista]

This Corbyn guy must be stopped! HE'S TEARING THE COUNTRY APART!


He is not going to be stopped
in 22mins he goes Live in our Parliament

[kirklancaster]

"He'd have been much happier sitting in tent somewhere in the Middle East". It's extremist ****ing nonsense Kirk.

I've also (literally) never gotten "hysterical" about anything at all on here :shrug:. You're the one foaming at the mouth in 70% of threads...

'Friends' of Labour Leader Jeremy Corbin 1:

1) Muslim 'Hate Activist' Abou Jahjah – now banned from the UK – who has spent a decade stirring up hatred and inciting slaughter. His very public statements and actions include:

a) Considering "every dead Dutch, British and American soldier a victory”.

b) Dubbing the 9/11 terror atrocities “sweet revenge”.

c) Attacking Europe for “Jew-worshiping”.

d) Cursed gay people as “Aids spreading fagots”.

e) Been arrested for organising an Arab riot.

f) Published twisted anti-Jewish cartoons, including one showing Adolf Hitler and 15-year-old Holocaust victim Anne Frank both naked in bed with the caption: “Write that in your diary, Anne”.

In 2009 Corbyn INVITED his FRIEND Dyab Abou Jahjah to address a meeting at the House of Commons. and also spoke at an anti-war rally alongside his friend Abou Jahjah in central London.

"In a sign that Mr Corbyn’s links to the Arab extremist are still active, only two weeks ago Abou Jahjah tweeted warm messages of support for the leftwing campaigner."

Corbyn is apparently thick as two short planks and very naive because DESPITE over a decade of Abou Jahjah's VERY PUBLIC displays of Islamic Extremism and terrorist support, a spokeswoman for the Labour Leader said:

“This is an attempt to smear Jeremy by association. The views expressed here are abhorrent.

“If they are indeed those of Dyou Abou Jahjah there is no suggestion he has said them in Jeremy’s hearing."

'Friends' of Labour Leader Jeremy Corbin 2:

1) In February 20014 Corbyn shared a platform with his friend Sayyed Hassan al-Sadr - the British 'Representative' of the Iranian-backed Mahdi Army militia, led by Muqtada al-Sadr, which killed at least 70 British soldiers and thousands of Iraqi civilians during 2004 to 2008.

The occasion was to CELEBRATE the 35th anniversary of the ayatollahs’ revolutionary takeover in Iran. In his talk, entitled “The Case for Iran,” Corbyn the Patriot:

1) Called for the immediate scrapping of sanctions on the country.

2) Attacked Iran's 'colonial exploitation' by British business

3) Called for an end to the “demonisation” of Iran's extremist regime by the West.

Need I outline the numerous other Terrorist Organisations which this creep supports and numbers as his friends?

Later perhaps. For now, here's more TRUTH about Corbyn:

1) Received thousands of pounds in gifts from organisations closely linked to the terror group Hamas, whose operatives he described as “friends”.

2) Insulted terror victims by repeatedly refusing to condemn IRA atrocities during a BBC Ulster broadcast in August 2015.

3) Travelled to Tehran at the expense of a secretive British-Iranian multi-millionaire who has employed a number of other British parliamentarians as consultants to build business links with the country.

4) From the mid 80's he tirelessly built links between the outlawed IRA and the British labour Party, inviting senior representives to parliament.

5) He has praised the IRA and stated that dead IRA members should be "honoured".

6)"In February 2013, Corbyn and his wife travelled to Gaza thanks to a £2,800 gift from Interpal, a British charity banned by the US government as “part of the funding network of Hamas” and as a terrorist organisation in its own right."

7) Corbyn has "received at least two further free trips, worth £2,450, from the Palestinian Return Centre and its subsidiary the European Campaign to End the Siege on Gaza, based at the PRC office in Crown House, Wembley. The PRC is said by the Israeli government to be “Hamas’s organisational branch in Europe” whose members are “senior Hamas leaders who promote the movement’s agenda in Europe.”

Need I continue? Later, perhaps - for now, I ask you to gracefully accept that my comment:

"He'd have been much happier sitting in tent somewhere in the Middle East".

Is based on well established FACT and NOT "extremist ****ing nonsense"

Thank you.

[user104658]

Monarchists have been offended by this the fact that they are veterans too is unfortunate, he was thinking of all service personnel past and present are they all offended?

Exactly. Pro-monarchy veterans have been offended by this because they are pro-monarchy, not because they are veterans. Veterans who are pro-Republic (and I'm sure there are plenty) will not have been offended at all that he chose not to sing it. In fact, I'm sure many fully understand, as I'm sure many in the army (who ARE duty bound to play along, more or less under orders) have to do plenty of monarchy-praising and singing through gritted teeth.

[smudgie]

He is not going to be stopped
in 22mins he goes Live in our Parliament

:love: Thank you, I forgot it was on.

[kirklancaster]

Again you're projecting, a song does not show anything.
Actions speak louder than words, talking to people.. even people we are having major conflicts with.. it's what statesmen/women do.

The very real truth about the Left Wing is, that they are so focused on ousting the Tory Government they DENY, DENY, DENY, ANY ESTABLISHED TRUTHS WHICH DOES NOT FIT THEIR EXTREMIST LEFT WING AGENDA.

Corbyn is a treacherous, anti-British, wanker and his pro-terrorist extreme anti-British views are on record for ALL but the LEFT WING SELF-BLINDED to see.

It is becoming tedious.

[user104658]

'Friends' of Labour Leader Jeremy Corbin 1:

1) Muslim 'Hate Activist' Abou Jahjah – now banned from the UK – who has spent a decade stirring up hatred and inciting slaughter. His very public statements and actions include:

a) Considering "every dead Dutch, British and American soldier a victory”.

b) Dubbing the 9/11 terror atrocities “sweet revenge”.

c) Attacking Europe for “Jew-worshiping”.

d) Cursed gay people as “Aids spreading fagots”.

e) Been arrested for organising an Arab riot.

f) Published twisted anti-Jewish cartoons, including one showing Adolf Hitler and 15-year-old Holocaust victim Anne Frank both naked in bed with the caption: “Write that in your diary, Anne”.

In 2009 Corbyn INVITED his FRIEND Dyab Abou Jahjah to address a meeting at the House of Commons. and also spoke at an anti-war rally alongside his friend Abou Jahjah in central London.

"In a sign that Mr Corbyn’s links to the Arab extremist are still active, only two weeks ago Abou Jahjah tweeted warm messages of support for the leftwing campaigner."

Corbyn is apparently thick as two short planks and very naive because DESPITE over a decade of Abou Jahjah's VERY PUBLIC displays of Islamic Extremism and terrorist support, a spokeswoman for the Labour Leader said:

“This is an attempt to smear Jeremy by association. The views expressed here are abhorrent.

“If they are indeed those of Dyou Abou Jahjah there is no suggestion he has said them in Jeremy’s hearing."

'Friends' of Labour Leader Jeremy Corbin 2:

1) In February 20014 Corbyn shared a platform with his friend Sayyed Hassan al-Sadr - the British 'Representative' of the Iranian-backed Mahdi Army militia, led by Muqtada al-Sadr, which killed at least 70 British soldiers and thousands of Iraqi civilians during 2004 to 2008.

The occasion was to CELEBRATE the 35th anniversary of the ayatollahs’ revolutionary takeover in Iran. In his talk, entitled “The Case for Iran,” Corbyn the Patriot:

1) Called for the immediate scrapping of sanctions on the country.

2) Attacked Iran's 'colonial exploitation' by British business

3) Called for an end to the “demonisation” of Iran's extremist regime by the West.

Need I outline the numerous other Terrorist Organisations which this creep supports and numbers as his friends?

Later perhaps. For now, here's more TRUTH about Corbyn:

1) Received thousands of pounds in gifts from organisations closely linked to the terror group Hamas, whose operatives he described as “friends”.

2) Insulted terror victims by repeatedly refusing to condemn IRA atrocities during a BBC Ulster broadcast in August 2015.

3) Travelled to Tehran at the expense of a secretive British-Iranian multi-millionaire who has employed a number of other British parliamentarians as consultants to build business links with the country.

4) From the mid 80's he tirelessly built links between the outlawed IRA and the British labour Party, inviting senior representives to parliament.

5) He has praised the IRA and stated that dead IRA members should be "honoured".

6)"In February 2013, Corbyn and his wife travelled to Gaza thanks to a £2,800 gift from Interpal, a British charity banned by the US government as “part of the funding network of Hamas” and as a terrorist organisation in its own right."

7) Corbyn has "received at least two further free trips, worth £2,450, from the Palestinian Return Centre and its subsidiary the European Campaign to End the Siege on Gaza, based at the PRC office in Crown House, Wembley. The PRC is said by the Israeli government to be “Hamas’s organisational branch in Europe” whose members are “senior Hamas leaders who promote the movement’s agenda in Europe.”



I can accept that none of this is necessarily extreme nor nonsense if you happen to believe all of it. It's well laid out and backed up. Thumbs up.



"He'd have been much happier sitting in tent somewhere in the Middle East".


This is still hysterical, extremist, propaganda-style nonsense. It's hyperbole for effect. Which I can accept if it's done in good humour and obviously self-aware exaggeration BUT when you say these things, Kirk, I think you literally mean them as fact. As in, he would genuinely be buzzing his old tits off if he was sat in a tent in the middle east surrounded by ISIS soldiers.

Stick to properly laying things out like above. You still sound a bit ranty and angry, sure, but it has more impact than these silly soundbites that would have him carrying an AK and strapped with explosives. It makes you sound unhinged, and absolutely no one is going to listen to that.

[Kizzy]

'Friends' of Labour Leader Jeremy Corbin 1:

1) Muslim 'Hate Activist' Abou Jahjah – now banned from the UK – who has spent a decade stirring up hatred and inciting slaughter. His very public statements and actions include:

a) Considering "every dead Dutch, British and American soldier a victory”.

b) Dubbing the 9/11 terror atrocities “sweet revenge”.

c) Attacking Europe for “Jew-worshiping”.

d) Cursed gay people as “Aids spreading fagots”.

e) Been arrested for organising an Arab riot.

f) Published twisted anti-Jewish cartoons, including one showing Adolf Hitler and 15-year-old Holocaust victim Anne Frank both naked in bed with the caption: “Write that in your diary, Anne”.

In 2009 Corbyn INVITED his FRIEND Dyab Abou Jahjah to address a meeting at the House of Commons. and also spoke at an anti-war rally alongside his friend Abou Jahjah in central London.

"In a sign that Mr Corbyn’s links to the Arab extremist are still active, only two weeks ago Abou Jahjah tweeted warm messages of support for the leftwing campaigner."

Corbyn is apparently thick as two short planks and very naive because DESPITE over a decade of Abou Jahjah's VERY PUBLIC displays of Islamic Extremism and terrorist support, a spokeswoman for the Labour Leader said:

“This is an attempt to smear Jeremy by association. The views expressed here are abhorrent.

“If they are indeed those of Dyou Abou Jahjah there is no suggestion he has said them in Jeremy’s hearing."

'Friends' of Labour Leader Jeremy Corbin 2:

1) In February 20014 Corbyn shared a platform with his friend Sayyed Hassan al-Sadr - the British 'Representative' of the Iranian-backed Mahdi Army militia, led by Muqtada al-Sadr, which killed at least 70 British soldiers and thousands of Iraqi civilians during 2004 to 2008.

The occasion was to CELEBRATE the 35th anniversary of the ayatollahs’ revolutionary takeover in Iran. In his talk, entitled “The Case for Iran,” Corbyn the Patriot:

1) Called for the immediate scrapping of sanctions on the country.

2) Attacked Iran's 'colonial exploitation' by British business

3) Called for an end to the “demonisation” of Iran's extremist regime by the West.

Need I outline the numerous other Terrorist Organisations which this creep supports and numbers as his friends?

Later perhaps. For now, here's more TRUTH about Corbyn:

1) Received thousands of pounds in gifts from organisations closely linked to the terror group Hamas, whose operatives he described as “friends”.

2) Insulted terror victims by repeatedly refusing to condemn IRA atrocities during a BBC Ulster broadcast in August 2015.

3) Travelled to Tehran at the expense of a secretive British-Iranian multi-millionaire who has employed a number of other British parliamentarians as consultants to build business links with the country.

4) From the mid 80's he tirelessly built links between the outlawed IRA and the British labour Party, inviting senior representives to parliament.

5) He has praised the IRA and stated that dead IRA members should be "honoured".

6)"In February 2013, Corbyn and his wife travelled to Gaza thanks to a £2,800 gift from Interpal, a British charity banned by the US government as “part of the funding network of Hamas” and as a terrorist organisation in its own right."

7) Corbyn has "received at least two further free trips, worth £2,450, from the Palestinian Return Centre and its subsidiary the European Campaign to End the Siege on Gaza, based at the PRC office in Crown House, Wembley. The PRC is said by the Israeli government to be “Hamas’s organisational branch in Europe” whose members are “senior Hamas leaders who promote the movement’s agenda in Europe.”

Need I continue? Later, perhaps - for now, I ask you to gracefully accept that my comment:

"He'd have been much happier sitting in tent somewhere in the Middle East".

Is based on well established FACT and NOT "extremist ****ing nonsense"

Thank you.

Not fact at all, is talking to those with which we are having conflict wrong... is bombing and creating more refugees and putting more service personnel and innocent people at risk more beneficial?

[kirklancaster]

I can accept that none of this is necessarily extreme nor nonsense if you happen to believe all of it. It's well laid out and backed up. Thumbs up.




This is still hysterical, extremist, propaganda-style nonsense. It's hyperbole for effect. Which I can accept if it's done in good humour and obviously self-aware exaggeration BUT when you say these things, Kirk, I think you literally mean them as fact. As in, he would genuinely be buzzing his old tits off if he was sat in a tent in the middle east surrounded by ISIS soldiers.

Stick to properly laying things out like above. You still sound a bit ranty and angry, sure, but it has more impact than these silly soundbites that would have him carrying an AK and strapped with explosives. It makes you sound unhinged, and absolutely no one is going to listen to that.


Thank you - you have just PROVED my point.

The very real truth about the Left Wing is, that they are so focused on ousting the Tory Government they DENY, DENY, DENY, ANY ESTABLISHED TRUTHS WHICH DOES NOT FIT THEIR EXTREMIST LEFT WING AGENDA.

Corbyn is a treacherous, anti-British, wanker and his pro-terrorist extreme anti-British views are on record for ALL but the LEFT WING SELF-BLINDED to see.

It is becoming tedious.

[bots]

I can accept that none of this is necessarily extreme nor nonsense if you happen to believe all of it. It's well laid out and backed up. Thumbs up.




This is still hysterical, extremist, propaganda-style nonsense. It's hyperbole for effect. Which I can accept if it's done in good humour and obviously self-aware exaggeration BUT when you say these things, Kirk, I think you literally mean them as fact. As in, he would genuinely be buzzing his old tits off if he was sat in a tent in the middle east surrounded by ISIS soldiers.

Stick to properly laying things out like above. You still sound a bit ranty and angry, sure, but it has more impact than these silly soundbites that would have him carrying an AK and strapped with explosives. It makes you sound unhinged, and absolutely no one is going to listen to that.

You are trolling now or are you seriously suggesting that its ok for one of our political leaders to be endorsing support of terrorists?

[kirklancaster]

Not fact at all, is talking to those with which we are having conflict wrong... is bombing and creating more refugees and putting more service personnel and innocent people at risk more beneficial?

Thank you - you have just PROVED my point:

The very real truth about the Left Wing is, that they are so focused on ousting the Tory Government they DENY, DENY, DENY, ANY ESTABLISHED TRUTHS WHICH DOES NOT FIT THEIR EXTREMIST LEFT WING AGENDA.

Corbyn is a treacherous, anti-British, wanker and his pro-terrorist extreme anti-British views are on record for ALL but the LEFT WING SELF-BLINDED to see.

It is becoming tedious.

[Kizzy]

Thank you - you have just PROVED my point:

The very real truth about the Left Wing is, that they are so focused on ousting the Tory Government they DENY, DENY, DENY, ANY ESTABLISHED TRUTHS WHICH DOES NOT FIT THEIR EXTREMIST LEFT WING AGENDA.

Corbyn is a treacherous, anti-British, wanker and his pro-terrorist extreme anti-British views are on record for ALL but the LEFT WING SELF-BLINDED to see.

It is becoming tedious.

I haven't proved anything as to your one sided argument, sorry you feel you have to resort to profanity it doesn't do a thing to prove what you say has any basis in truth. The tory response to anything appears to bomb first and speak later, usually when it's too late.

[user104658]

You are trolling now or are you seriously suggesting that its ok for one of our political leaders to be endorsing support of terrorists?

No. I'm saying that if Kirk wants to point these things out, he should do so without the hysterics. It's more interesting to read and less like a Dave C-style propaganda tweet.

I feel that at this point, I should take a moment to clarify that I am neither a Corbynite or a Labour supporter. I still think Corbyn looks like Steptoe. I happen to think that he's potentially a little bit naive in terms of potential outcomes, also. I also today realised that, somewhat farcically, he will quite obviously never be PM even with all other considerations out of the window, because he's 66, and by the time the next election comes he'll be 71... and therefore, probably dead, or at the very least, moderately senile. A bit like Kirk really so I dunno what he's worried about.

I won't comment on whether or not Corbyn is, in fact, a "supporter of terrorism"... separating the truth from the propaganda is difficult at this point because there is so much of it floating around. It's worrying if he is, but in my opinion, no more or less worrying than Tory ties to private entities and, historically, arms dealers selling guns that are now in the hands of the very same terrorists.

I don't like Labour. Their election campaign was a farce, this leadership campaign was even more of a farce. I just dislike them less than I dislike the Tories. There is no ideal for me - my ideal was a "Yes" vote in the referrendum last Summer and then the SNP being overturned by a more competent and progressive government in Scotland - but the chance for that has come and gone so I consider myself to be somewhat impartial. Just a melancholy fellow slowly watching the world inevitably unravel. I would just rather see some compassion going around as it all crumbles, and so Corbyn's socialist policies (if they are true) sit better with me than Cameron relentlessly beating a dead horse with a massive capitalist stick.

[kirklancaster]

I haven't proved anything as to your one sided argument, sorry you feel you have to resort to profanity it doesn't do a thing to prove what you say has any basis in truth. The tory response to anything appears to bomb first and speak later, usually when it's too late.

'Profanity'? Where????

Also - once again, and typically; you have MOVED the goalposts. The subject of 'Tory Response' has never formed any part of what this thread is about or my posts in it.

I am referring specifically to Jeremy Corb in and his refusal to sing our National anthem, then - in response to stimuli by other members - I posted established, well documented FACTS about his abhorrent political allegiance with terrorist organisations, his support for, and friendship with terrorist leaders and 'hate mongers', and his unpatriotic conduct and statements.

[the truth]

Our country was built on monarchy.If he is ashamed of that fact then he really should feck off to somewhere he is not so ashamed of.Imo.

our country was raped and pillaged by monarchy for centuries...almost every war was started by the monarchy too...plus the potato famine that killed a million irish....theyre history is disgusting...this great country is built on the people..the millions who built it up , the millions who created the industrial revolution and the millions who fought and died to defend it too

[Kizzy]

'Profanity'? Where????

Also - once again, and typically; you have MOVED the goalposts. The subject of 'Tory Response' has never formed any part of what this thread is about or my posts in it.

I am referring specifically to Jeremy Corb in and his refusal to sing our National anthem, then - in response to stimuli by other members - I posted established, well documented FACTS about his abhorrent political allegiance with terrorist organisations, his support for, and friendship with terrorist leaders and 'hate mongers', and his unpatriotic conduct and statements.

Ah I'm not repeating the language used, no matter.
I am not moving goalposts not sure why I'm being accused again of doing so, if we can question the approach of talking then we can counter with the alternative response of BOMB, BOMB, BOMB.

It is his prerogative to sing or not, it is not a measure of how he feels about or reacts to any diplomatic process.

[arista]

JC has now said he will sing it.


Ref: BBC2HD Live

[lostalex]

Is he gonna act like an asshole?

[Firewire]

Don't know why people are making it such an issue. I don't know a single word to the song (except the title).

[joeysteele]

I'd have sang it myself but fail to see why it needed to be even sung at this function anyway.
This was to honour the pilots in the Battle of Britain,not to further glorify an already over privileged person.

I am a Royalist and would hate to be a Republic but for me we have probably the worst so called National anthem anywhere.
It makes no mention of the real people of these Islands and requests more personal glorification and protection for one individual,namely the Monarch.
Who has not the slightest bit of power anyway.

I think its melody is dreary and in fact depressing and the words meaningless for a multi Nation United Kingdom in the 21st century.

Look however, had he sang it, he would have then been hailed a hypocrite for doing so, by not singing it,he still gets a backlash.
He stood in silence respectfully,that for me was fine, had he remained seated and snubbed the whole thing, that would have been a diffferent thing.

For goodness sake, we have loads of great musicians in the UK, surely someone could bring about a National anthem that reflected the peoples of these islands and had some real inspiritional melody and words that brought some oomph to all proceedings.

[smudgie]

Pftttt he has now conformed.

[lostalex]

Corbyn loves the Queen like all good english boys should.

[the truth]

I'd have sang it myself but fail to see why it needed to be even sung at this function anyway.
This was to honour the pilots in the Battle of Britain,not to further glorify an already over privileged person.

I am a Royalist and would hate to be a Republic but for me we have probably the worst so called National anthem anywhere.
It makes no mention of the real people of these Islands and requests more personal glorification and protection for one individual,namely the Monarch.
Who has not the slightest bit of power anyway.

I think its melody is dreary and in fact depressing and the words meaningless for a multi Nation United Kingdom in the 21st century.

Look however, had he sang it, he would have then been hailed a hypocrite for doing so, by not singing it,he still gets a backlash.
He stood in silence respectfully,that for me was fine, had he remained seated and snubbed the whole thing, that would have been a diffferent thing.

For goodness sake, we have loads of great musicians in the UK, surely someone could bring about a National anthem that reflected the peoples of these islands and had some real inspiritional melody and words that brought some oomph to all proceedings.

agreed joey....Britain has produced many of the best musicians and the best rock stars ever ....surely to goodness we can produce something better....for what its worth whilst I like the flower of Scotland tune, im not keen on the words, too much blood and guts, the Marseille is magnificent but again its all war based....one of the irish anthems is good, the welsh anthem is magnificent, the American is great, the german anthem is nice, the Russian one is catchy, candaian I like, new Zealand and aussie are lovely and the south African is possibly the best of all

[joeysteele]

agreed joey....Britain has produced many of the best musicians and the best rock stars ever ....surely to goodness we can produce something better....for what its worth whilst I like the flower of Scotland tune, im not keen on the words, too much blood and guts, the Marseille is magnificent but again its all war based....one of the irish anthems is good, the welsh anthem is magnificent, the American is great, the german anthem is nice, the Russian one is catchy, candaian I like, new Zealand and aussie are lovely and the south African is possibly the best of all

Glad we agree the truth.

[letmein]

Corbyn loves the Queen like all good english boys should.

http://33.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lymuuflFqK1qlvwnco1_400.gif

[JoshBB]

I think the song should be more inclusive to non-believers and republicans tbh so if he doesn't want to sing it, then that's fine.

[Livia]

This man turned his back on British troops returning from active service. He made quite a point of it. So I'm hardly surprised he wouldn't sing the National Anthem. No one should be worried, he'll never be PM.

[Livia]

I think the song should be more inclusive to non-believers and republicans tbh so if he doesn't want to sing it, then that's fine.

You're a British citizen. If you don't like it, don't sing it. This freedom you enjoy has been hard fought and hard won... don't forget that.

[JoshBB]

You're a British citizen. If you don't like it, don't sing it. This freedom you enjoy has been hard fought and hard won... don't forget that.

I agree with the bold though.. which is why Corbyn has the choice to not sing that if he desires.

& also I have huge respect for the soldiers who fought in World War 2, possibly one of the only justified wars that our army has been involved in.

[Livia]

I agree with the bold though.. which is why Corbyn has the choice to not sing that if he desires.

& also I have huge respect for the soldiers who fought in World War 2, possibly one of the only justified wars that our army has been involved in.

Don't agree with that Josh, but we were never going to agree on that.

[JoshBB]

Don't agree with that Josh, but we were never going to agree on that.

Which wars do you think were justified?

[Livia]

Which wars do you think were justified?

Josh, wish all due respect, I am the widow of a soldier and I don't really want to engage in a discussion about war right now. Let's just say that you and I can agree to differ.

[empire]

labour are the most anti british party, that would rather sing the ussr anthem,

[Tom4784]

Don't know why people are making it such an issue. I don't know a single word to the song (except the title).

Nobody does really, some people might know the first verse but other than that most people just murmur to it which makes this whole thing ridiculous, no one cares about the national anthem until they can use it as an excuse to get on their soapbox.

[billy123]

I am quite enjoying watching the panic amongst the right wingers. Some have really shown their true colours and left their arses hanging out and he hasnt even done anything yet.

[Josy]

If he doesn't want to sing it then that's his choice :shrug:

I was thrown out of the orange hall once for not singing it and refusing to stand up whilst the rest of them sang :fan:

[arista]

Lock this thread


He will sing it
next time

[joeysteele]

Nobody does really, some people might know the first verse but other than that most people just murmur to it which makes this whole thing ridiculous, no one cares about the national anthem until they can use it as an excuse to get on their soapbox.

I really hate this national anthem of ours, to me it is really awful.

I saw no reason to sing it at this function for the Battle of Britain pilots at all, why was it even part of the proceedings.
It was a King we had when the war was on not this Queen anyway.

Why should we not have an anthem that recognises the lands and people of the British Isles and not just a very privileged person,calling for more glorification of her and then protection of her too,someone whose ancestors long ago stopped leading the Brits into wars anyway.

It belongs in the far past in my view,not having any relevance or even being appropriate to 'have' to be sung by anyone anywhere in this day and age.
Until it contains lyrics that recognise the people of these Isles not just the one person.
Pathetic and the fuss as to him not singing it is totally ridiculous.

My Dad,My Brothers were in the Army,RAF and one in the Navy,all think our National Anthem outdated and really boring to listen to,never mind sing.

[the truth]

This man turned his back on British troops returning from active service. He made quite a point of it. So I'm hardly surprised he wouldn't sing the National Anthem. No one should be worried, he'll never be PM.

our anthem is a joke, but whats this story about turning his back on british troops ?

[Moosething]

Nz's anthem is better

[the truth]

now this is what I call a patriotic tune

And did those feet in ancient time
Walk upon England’s mountains green?
And was the holy Lamb of God
On England’s pleasant pastures seen?
And did the countenance divine
Shine forth upon our clouded hills?
And was Jerusalem builded here
Among those dark satanic mills?

Bring me my bow of burning gold!
Bring me my arrows of desire!
Bring me my spear: o clouds unfold!
Bring me my chariots of fire!
I will not cease from mental fight;
Nor shall my sword sleep in my hand
Till we have built Jerusalem
In England’s green and pleasant land.

[user104658]

Best thing about our national anthem: football crowds. Because they sing part of the tune where there's no singing, cracks me up every single time.

"God save the Queeeeen
Deh neh neh neh NEH NEH LOOONG TOOOO REEEIGN OOOver us... "

[Nedusa]

I'll just copy and paste most of this from the other thread :joker: ;

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You can love this country and believe it shouldn't have a monarchy. No, more than that, you can believe that the monarchy should be dismantled BECAUSE you love this country. He's not refusing to sing the song because it's the national anthem, he's refusing to sing it for the same reason that I wouldn't sing it: because he doesn't want to sing a song of worship for a bunch of elitist, murderous villains.

It's a political catch 22... A monarchy monopoly. Essentially it's saying that you can't be properly engaged in UK politics if you refuse to acknowledge the monarchy as a valid political system. And so if you believe there shouldn't be one? Tough. Because then you're not a proper politician and so will never be in a position to try to change it. No. It's 2015 and major political factions should be able to (and just SHOULD, in my opinion) openly reject the monarchy.

I mean just look at the national anthem if you want to know why I will never sing it. It's about precisely three things. Elitism, War-mongering, and a fictional man in the sky. Not for me, thanks, not any of it. I get that some people love the cuddly old Queen, are "proud" of our country's history as bloodthirsty conquerors, and believe in said men in the sky... And that's fine... But kindly don't force your prayers upon others with the caveat that they're "treasonous" or "anti-patriotic" if they won't comply.

If all statesmen must fall in line with protocol - legitimising the monarchy - then how does one make a (meaningful) political stand against that monarchy?

I for one have had enough of cardboard cut-out politicians playing along with these outdated charades.

----------------------------

Tadaaaa

If I'm being honest I cannot disagree with a single word of your post.

[Kizzy]

now this is what I call a patriotic tune

And did those feet in ancient time
Walk upon England’s mountains green?
And was the holy Lamb of God
On England’s pleasant pastures seen?
And did the countenance divine
Shine forth upon our clouded hills?
And was Jerusalem builded here
Among those dark satanic mills?

Bring me my bow of burning gold!
Bring me my arrows of desire!
Bring me my spear: o clouds unfold!
Bring me my chariots of fire!
I will not cease from mental fight;
Nor shall my sword sleep in my hand
Till we have built Jerusalem
In England’s green and pleasant land.

What a horrible hymn, menacing words those...
No Jesus was not here during the times of the dark satanic mills not for the poor, it was the reformists that changed things. Could ceasing to abuse workers and introducing fair rights and wages be seen as Christian... Yes, then why are the (recent)govt and the monarchy (historically) built on exploitation and the removal of civil liberties?

[Nedusa]

'Friends' of Labour Leader Jeremy Corbin 1:

1) Muslim 'Hate Activist' Abou Jahjah – now banned from the UK – who has spent a decade stirring up hatred and inciting slaughter. His very public statements and actions include:

a) Considering "every dead Dutch, British and American soldier a victory”.

b) Dubbing the 9/11 terror atrocities “sweet revenge”.

c) Attacking Europe for “Jew-worshiping”.

d) Cursed gay people as “Aids spreading fagots”.

e) Been arrested for organising an Arab riot.

f) Published twisted anti-Jewish cartoons, including one showing Adolf Hitler and 15-year-old Holocaust victim Anne Frank both naked in bed with the caption: “Write that in your diary, Anne”.

In 2009 Corbyn INVITED his FRIEND Dyab Abou Jahjah to address a meeting at the House of Commons. and also spoke at an anti-war rally alongside his friend Abou Jahjah in central London.

"In a sign that Mr Corbyn’s links to the Arab extremist are still active, only two weeks ago Abou Jahjah tweeted warm messages of support for the leftwing campaigner."

Corbyn is apparently thick as two short planks and very naive because DESPITE over a decade of Abou Jahjah's VERY PUBLIC displays of Islamic Extremism and terrorist support, a spokeswoman for the Labour Leader said:

“This is an attempt to smear Jeremy by association. The views expressed here are abhorrent.

“If they are indeed those of Dyou Abou Jahjah there is no suggestion he has said them in Jeremy’s hearing."

'Friends' of Labour Leader Jeremy Corbin 2:

1) In February 20014 Corbyn shared a platform with his friend Sayyed Hassan al-Sadr - the British 'Representative' of the Iranian-backed Mahdi Army militia, led by Muqtada al-Sadr, which killed at least 70 British soldiers and thousands of Iraqi civilians during 2004 to 2008.

The occasion was to CELEBRATE the 35th anniversary of the ayatollahs’ revolutionary takeover in Iran. In his talk, entitled “The Case for Iran,” Corbyn the Patriot:

1) Called for the immediate scrapping of sanctions on the country.

2) Attacked Iran's 'colonial exploitation' by British business

3) Called for an end to the “demonisation” of Iran's extremist regime by the West.

Need I outline the numerous other Terrorist Organisations which this creep supports and numbers as his friends?

Later perhaps. For now, here's more TRUTH about Corbyn:

1) Received thousands of pounds in gifts from organisations closely linked to the terror group Hamas, whose operatives he described as “friends”.

2) Insulted terror victims by repeatedly refusing to condemn IRA atrocities during a BBC Ulster broadcast in August 2015.

3) Travelled to Tehran at the expense of a secretive British-Iranian multi-millionaire who has employed a number of other British parliamentarians as consultants to build business links with the country.

4) From the mid 80's he tirelessly built links between the outlawed IRA and the British labour Party, inviting senior representives to parliament.

5) He has praised the IRA and stated that dead IRA members should be "honoured".

6)"In February 2013, Corbyn and his wife travelled to Gaza thanks to a £2,800 gift from Interpal, a British charity banned by the US government as “part of the funding network of Hamas” and as a terrorist organisation in its own right."

7) Corbyn has "received at least two further free trips, worth £2,450, from the Palestinian Return Centre and its subsidiary the European Campaign to End the Siege on Gaza, based at the PRC office in Crown House, Wembley. The PRC is said by the Israeli government to be “Hamas’s organisational branch in Europe” whose members are “senior Hamas leaders who promote the movement’s agenda in Europe.”

Need I continue? Later, perhaps - for now, I ask you to gracefully accept that my comment:

"He'd have been much happier sitting in tent somewhere in the Middle East".

Is based on well established FACT and NOT "extremist ****ing nonsense"

Thank you.

Thanks for posting this Kirk, OMG I am actually shocked did not know any of this

Looks like his allegiances lie elsewhere, in fact he does look a little treasonous and I would say absolutely cannot be the labour leader and once the above is disseminated to the public I think his days are numbered

I give him a couple of months tops.....

[Kizzy]

Dt0bS4wuQ1w

[Northern Monkey]

'Friends' of Labour Leader Jeremy Corbin 1:

1) Muslim 'Hate Activist' Abou Jahjah – now banned from the UK – who has spent a decade stirring up hatred and inciting slaughter. His very public statements and actions include:

a) Considering "every dead Dutch, British and American soldier a victory”.

b) Dubbing the 9/11 terror atrocities “sweet revenge”.

c) Attacking Europe for “Jew-worshiping”.

d) Cursed gay people as “Aids spreading fagots”.

e) Been arrested for organising an Arab riot.

f) Published twisted anti-Jewish cartoons, including one showing Adolf Hitler and 15-year-old Holocaust victim Anne Frank both naked in bed with the caption: “Write that in your diary, Anne”.

In 2009 Corbyn INVITED his FRIEND Dyab Abou Jahjah to address a meeting at the House of Commons. and also spoke at an anti-war rally alongside his friend Abou Jahjah in central London.

"In a sign that Mr Corbyn’s links to the Arab extremist are still active, only two weeks ago Abou Jahjah tweeted warm messages of support for the leftwing campaigner."

Corbyn is apparently thick as two short planks and very naive because DESPITE over a decade of Abou Jahjah's VERY PUBLIC displays of Islamic Extremism and terrorist support, a spokeswoman for the Labour Leader said:

“This is an attempt to smear Jeremy by association. The views expressed here are abhorrent.

“If they are indeed those of Dyou Abou Jahjah there is no suggestion he has said them in Jeremy’s hearing."

'Friends' of Labour Leader Jeremy Corbin 2:

1) In February 20014 Corbyn shared a platform with his friend Sayyed Hassan al-Sadr - the British 'Representative' of the Iranian-backed Mahdi Army militia, led by Muqtada al-Sadr, which killed at least 70 British soldiers and thousands of Iraqi civilians during 2004 to 2008.

The occasion was to CELEBRATE the 35th anniversary of the ayatollahs’ revolutionary takeover in Iran. In his talk, entitled “The Case for Iran,” Corbyn the Patriot:

1) Called for the immediate scrapping of sanctions on the country.

2) Attacked Iran's 'colonial exploitation' by British business

3) Called for an end to the “demonisation” of Iran's extremist regime by the West.

Need I outline the numerous other Terrorist Organisations which this creep supports and numbers as his friends?

Later perhaps. For now, here's more TRUTH about Corbyn:

1) Received thousands of pounds in gifts from organisations closely linked to the terror group Hamas, whose operatives he described as “friends”.

2) Insulted terror victims by repeatedly refusing to condemn IRA atrocities during a BBC Ulster broadcast in August 2015.

3) Travelled to Tehran at the expense of a secretive British-Iranian multi-millionaire who has employed a number of other British parliamentarians as consultants to build business links with the country.

4) From the mid 80's he tirelessly built links between the outlawed IRA and the British labour Party, inviting senior representives to parliament.

5) He has praised the IRA and stated that dead IRA members should be "honoured".

6)"In February 2013, Corbyn and his wife travelled to Gaza thanks to a £2,800 gift from Interpal, a British charity banned by the US government as “part of the funding network of Hamas” and as a terrorist organisation in its own right."

7) Corbyn has "received at least two further free trips, worth £2,450, from the Palestinian Return Centre and its subsidiary the European Campaign to End the Siege on Gaza, based at the PRC office in Crown House, Wembley. The PRC is said by the Israeli government to be “Hamas’s organisational branch in Europe” whose members are “senior Hamas leaders who promote the movement’s agenda in Europe.”

Need I continue? Later, perhaps - for now, I ask you to gracefully accept that my comment:

"He'd have been much happier sitting in tent somewhere in the Middle East".

Is based on well established FACT and NOT "extremist ****ing nonsense"

Thank you.Jeez!He's worse than i thought!

[Kizzy]

Where do these 'facts' originate?

[MTVN]

now this is what I call a patriotic tune

And did those feet in ancient time
Walk upon England’s mountains green?
And was the holy Lamb of God
On England’s pleasant pastures seen?
And did the countenance divine
Shine forth upon our clouded hills?
And was Jerusalem builded here
Among those dark satanic mills?

Bring me my bow of burning gold!
Bring me my arrows of desire!
Bring me my spear: o clouds unfold!
Bring me my chariots of fire!
I will not cease from mental fight;
Nor shall my sword sleep in my hand
Till we have built Jerusalem
In England’s green and pleasant land.

Bit Anglocentric though, best left for the cricket team

[Kizzy]

And the WI...

[Kizzy]

The propaganda begins...

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[bots]

The propaganda begins...


Some may view it as propaganda, others view it as being informative. This man could be the next prime minister, if his views do affect our security in the world then it is important that people know about it. This isn't a one directional dialog, Corbyn can easily explain himself and clarify anything that he wants. Surely its in everyone's interests that there will be no surprises if he did become prime minister.

[joeysteele]

what a joke it doesn't represent anything? its a song about 1 person on throne, its embarassing

I agree actually.

It is not a song about the Nation at all, it rarely gets sung past the first verse anyway,(thank all powers that be for that too), and all it goes on about is seeing the highly privileged individual who happenes to be the Monarch, ''victorious, happy and glorious,long to reign over us''.
For goodness sake that is ridiculous.

The very first word of it,God, sadly I think, means very little to a great number now across the Nations of the UK too.

It is awful, really awful and although I will sing it sometimes, most times I just hum the tune,since I actually find this personalised further glorification in song of one person nauseating at best.
To actually term it a National anthem, is beyond belief in this day and age in the UK now,with the make up of all the citizens of the UK too.

Get rid I say and no one should have to sing it if they do not want to.
I'd have rather hummmed along to something like the Dambusters at this event than this depressing anthem.

[user104658]

Indeed, a national anthem should be rousing for the country... ALL of the people. Not glorification of one. If the same song was the NK national anthem with "Jong il" in place of "the queen" we would all find it hilarious.

For example, I actually think the Star Spangled Banner is an excellent national anthem. If it was actually still accurate for what America stands for, it would be even better. Hope, freedom, bravery... For normal people.

Unfortunately it doesn't really fit with the US as it exists today. Still a much better anthem, though.

[the truth]

Indeed, a national anthem should be rousing for the country... ALL of the people. Not glorification of one. If the same song was the NK national anthem with "Jong il" in place of "the queen" we would all find it hilarious.

For example, I actually think the Star Spangled Banner is an excellent national anthem. If it was actually still accurate for what America stands for, it would be even better. Hope, freedom, bravery... For normal people.

Unfortunately it doesn't really fit with the US as it exists today. Still a much better anthem, though.

agreed we look just as moronic as the koreans worshipper the greedy boy king

[Kizzy]

Some may view it as propaganda, others view it as being informative. This man could be the next prime minister, if his views do affect our security in the world then it is important that people know about it. This isn't a one directional dialog, Corbyn can easily explain himself and clarify anything that he wants. Surely its in everyone's interests that there will be no surprises if he did become prime minister.

Why should he have to do that? if you want to know what he said educate yourself, don't be spoon fed spin :/

[JoshBB]

This video.. wow.. talk about cutting quotes out and misinterpreting them

[bots]

Why should he have to do that? if you want to know what he said educate yourself, don't be spoon fed spin :/

With respect - Rubbish .... Corbyn has to prove to the UK people that he is fit to be the Prime Minister of the UK

[Kizzy]

With respect - Rubbish .... Corbyn has to prove to the UK people that he is fit to be the Prime Minister of the UK

His speeches and interviews are all there to be listened to if anyone wanted to analyse them for themselves... Because a couple of sentences have been taken out of context, deliberately misconstrued or misquoted why would he be held accountable for that?

[arista]

Why is thread still going?

He has said he will sing it next time

[Kizzy]

I'm annoyed he's said he will tbh :/

[arista]

I'm annoyed he's said he will tbh :/


As a Leader
its fair enough


That Concludes this thread

[Kizzy]

'I am a patriot – an immensely proud father of two sons. Both my boys served in the British army, and my eldest, Tom, made the ultimate sacrifice serving our country in Iraq. So I have a strong view on Jeremy Corbyn and patriotism.

Corbyn has found himself at the blunt end of a lot of criticism in the media for his supposed lack of patriotism for not singing along with gusto to the national anthem during a memorial service to mark the Battle of Britain at St Paul’s Cathedral earlier this week. Battle of Britain veterans were quoted as saying the Labour leader’s “lack of respect” was astonishing.

But I think those who criticise Corbyn should look more deeply at his record. Surely a true patriot is not just a person who follows the laid-out rituals, but one who defends the honour of his country at all levels with pride and vigour. A true patriot would not mislead or deceive his fellow countrymen or put them in harm’s way with no good reason. A patriot would wish to see his country held in high esteem on the world stage with other UN nations firmly in support. This is the man we know Jeremy Corbyn is, from all his words and deeds.'

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/sep/17/jeremy-corbyn-patriot-war-tony-blair-iraq-labour

[JoshBB]

Very interesting article Kizzy, thank you for sharing