BB8 vs BB9 vs BB10 vs BB11?

[GLENN BILL BB7]

Done this thread a while ago but cant even remember the results so **** it ima do it again.

[Lostie!]

For me it's

BB10 > BB9 > BB8 > BB11

[Oaker]

BB10 is the best out of them

[GLENN BILL BB7]

Currently re watching BB10 on day 62, Then have to re watch BB11.

So far I'd say BB9 > BB8 > BB10 > BB11.

[Jack_]

10 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8 >>>>>>>> 11 > 9

[Oaker]

11 is pure trash and if anyone votes for it I will be enraged

[Pete.]

Underrated 8

[Daniel.]

10 is by far the best, a top 5 series

10 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 9 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 11

[AProducer'sWetDream]

11 is pure trash and if anyone votes for it I will be enraged

https://40.media.tumblr.com/5f3f0655ea4c4feecfd9d150f6bf9589/tumblr_nuxjvtq8Rx1uamxu4o1_1280.png

But no seriously BB8 is underrated for Nicky and Charley (Narley? Chikki?) alone.

[Daniel.]

Lbr BB8 is only good for Charley and when she goes it dies, even with her there' it's hardly top tier either

[Jason.]

^ None of them are top-tier. Hence, why those series are in the decline era of the show :laugh:

[Daniel.]

me caring bb10 is top tier IMO

[GLENN BILL BB7]

The first 4 weeks of BB10 are awful tho

then it gets better when Sree and Kris leave

But still kinda dull at times.

[Jason.]

me caring bb10 is top tier IMO

I love wrong opinions

[Daniel.]

The first 4 weeks of BB10 are awful tho

then it gets better when Sree and Kris leave

But still kinda dull at times.

I love wrong opinions

Both wrong.

[Oaker]

BB10 is top 5 imo

BB11 is literally worse than BB15/BB16 and that's saying something

[Daniel.]

The second half of BB10 > the second half of BB7 x

[Jason.]

I need to re-watch all those series tbh as the last time I saw them was back when they originally aired. I watched the first week of BB8 in May last year, but I didn't get to finish due to BB15 starting

BB9 > BB8 > BB10 > BB11

Although, my opinion will change when I re-watch all of them (whenever that will be)

[Daniel.]

But every single season I have seen has dull moments apart from BB6 and this CBB

http://33.media.tumblr.com/6afdbd9cf1afc900cbaa178d74344850/tumblr_npiwraCa2g1ute8hlo6_250.gif

[Gstar]

The second half of BB10 > the second half of BB7 x

where r tha liez

[Jason.]

BB10 is top 5 imo

BB11 is literally worse than BB15/BB16 and that's saying something

It really isn't. I'm no fan of BB11 but at least BB11 was watchable and wasn't a constant nomination manipulated farce with a retarded production like BB15 and BB16 had.

[Daniel.]

:worship: @ Germyle

[Daniel.]

I agree that BB15/BB16 > BB11

[Jason.]

Give me BB11 over BB15 any day, tbh.

Rotten production and rotten cast for a rotten series (BB15 that is).

[Firewire]

Bb8 > bb10 > bb9 > bb11

[Daniel.]

Give me BB11 over BB15 any day, tbh.

Rotten production and rotten cast for a rotten series (BB15 that is).

No one in BB15 slays as much as Ashleigh or Danielle x

[Jason.]

No one in BB15 slays as much as Ashleigh or Danielle x

me caring

[Oaker]

Ashleigh, Danielle, Christopher (Maybe even Toya/Helen) >>> BB11

[Pete.]

Toya > Christopher

[Jason.]

Aids > Toya

[Daniel.]

Chrisopher was awful he made t'skin crawl

[Daniel.]

Toya > Rachel Rice

[Jason.]

Ashleigh, Danielle, Christopher (Maybe even Toya/Helen) >>> BB11

tbh.

[Daniel.]

People who support Helen make me laugh

[Jason.]

Toya > Rachel Rice

Well you did say you liked Alexandra more than Rachel, so the above isn't that bad.

[Oaker]

I don't support Helen anymore after BB16, but she was fine in BB15 IMO

[Jason.]

People who support Helen make me laugh

Toya > Rachel Rice

umm

[GLENN BILL BB7]

Helen is like the worst housemate ever!

Just a boring ****, Nuff said.

[Jason.]

I don't support Helen anymore after BB16, but she was fine in BB15 IMO

tbh

well she was a dick in both series lbr, but I liked her in BB15. Didn't like her in BB16. Don't like her now.

[Daniel.]

Toya wasn't a bully you just want to make her out to be to make it look like Helen wasn't as bad x

[Daniel.]

She was awful in BB15 :yuk:

Ashleigh was so robbed.

[Lostie!]

Helen was always a complete and utter C U Next Tuesday imo.

[GLENN BILL BB7]

What does lbr mean guys?

And is "me caring" like a new saying?

Clearly haven't been online in a while lol

[EspeonBB]

9 > 8 > 10 > 11

I would have voted 8 but the post-Charley weeks are awful

[Lostie!]

What does lbr mean guys?

And is "me caring" like a new saying?

Clearly haven't been online in a while lol

"Let's be real" I think. :laugh:

[Daniel.]

What does lbr mean guys?

And is "me caring" like a new saying?

Clearly haven't been online in a while lol

let's be real

and me caring is something me and Jordan say only x

[Jason.]

Toya wasn't a bully you just want to make her out to be to make it look like Helen wasn't as bad x

I get the comparison. They were both awful.

And yes Toya was. If Helen and Pauline were bullies for treating Jale and Christopher bad, then Toya is also one as she did the same thing. Plus you clearly like her cause she's a "fierce" black female.

But I don't want another Toya debate, so lets just agree to disagree on this one. kty.

[Pete.]

Helen was as bad in BB15 than BB16, plus we were expose to her bile for longer - Rewatch needed for some?

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/09/19/15/2C7EA35800000578-0-image-a-1_1442674556900.jpg

[Oaker]

Whenever Toya is mentioned an argument happens about her welp

[Jason.]

Whenever Toya is mentioned an argument happens about her welp

Ikr. I like to think I'm right though because...Toya wasn't a nice person. :hehe:

[GLENN BILL BB7]

9 > 8 > 10 > 11

I would have voted 8 but the post-Charley weeks are awful

I know but The Carolanator saves it by annoying everyone with always having to the shoppinglist.

[Daniel.]

Not really supporting her because she was a female as I've been dragging people for doing exactly that lately

http://i2.cdnds.net/15/36/300x225/cbb-day-4-natasha.jpg.

[Ashley.]

BB8 obviously

[Oaker]

Ew @ the BB9 love

[EspeonBB]

Helen is bad in both of her series just letting you know. If anything she's worse in BB15 because she actually ****ing won it and it validated her vile behaviour throughout the series. At least in BB16 everyone hated her guts http://exhalecdn.breatheheavy.com/public/style_emoticons/default/beynah.gif

[Daniel.]

I think she was way worse in BB16 but she was still a twat in BB15, Ashleigh and Danielle made her relevant x

[Jason.]

Not really supporting her because she was a female as I've been dragging people for doing exactly that lately

http://i2.cdnds.net/15/36/300x225/cbb-day-4-natasha.jpg

Exactly. I don't understand why, cause that makes you look hypocritical.

[Daniel.]

Because I'm saying I didn't support her because she's a female?

[Jason.]

No for slating others for supporting females.

Lets face it, if Christopher was a female he'd be much more loved on here. I don't see how he's that different from Ashleigh tbh (who's way too overloved on here and in general imo)

[Daniel.]

Because Ashleigh was a fierce bitch who spent her time dragging losers like Helen and planning to put her friends up and Christopher was a try hard wet drip?

[Daniel.]

No for slating others for supporting females.

Lets face it, if Christopher was a female he'd be much more loved on here. I don't see how he's that different from Ashleigh tbh (who's way too overloved on here and in general imo)

Not supporting females in general, most of my favourites are, but for just that reason alone.

[Pete.]

My Ashleigh love will never die, who would have thought she would have come close to winning and have a consistent fanbase - I don't think she's overrated at all, she needs to be appreciated more by some imo

[Daniel-X]

BB10 > BB8 > BB9 (I REALLY don't get the love for this trash series) > BB11

[Pete.]

Christopher would not be loved if female because he's dull as

[Jason.]

Because Ashleigh was a fierce bitch who spent her time dragging losers like Helen and planning to put her friends up and Christopher was a try hard wet drip?

I'm cackling.

[Jason.]

Christopher would not be loved if female because he's dull as

Yes he would.

[Daniel.]

Christopher would not be loved if female because he's dull as

Exactly

:joker:

[Daniel.]

I don't know why BB6 is trying to tell people why they like housemates, tragic.

[Pete.]

Yes he would.
How would you know

http://33.media.tumblr.com/6afdbd9cf1afc900cbaa178d74344850/tumblr_npiwraCa2g1ute8hlo6_250.gif

[Ashley.]

um @ people discussing Helen on a BB8-11 thread

[Pete.]

Female Christopher would be like Kimberly was/is she adored?

[Daniel.]

Also I had Christopher at the bottom of my housemate rankings and Ash and Winston higher than him so I wouldn't love him if he was female at all

Austin and James are my two fav cbb housemates EVER ffs

[Jason.]

Also I had Christopher at the bottom of my housemate rankings and Ash and Winston higher than him so I wouldn't love him if he was female at all

Austin and James are my two fav cbb housemates EVER ffs

You only like James cause he's good looking. Stop lying to yourself :yawn:

[Macie Lightfoot]

The BB11 hate is so OTT and absurd. It's not even that bad of a series and it is certainly NOT worse than 15 and 16 holy ****ing ****.

8 > 9 > 11 > 10

I might even switch 9 and 11 tbh? 9 was so ****ing draining and exhausting and long (13 week series should never have been a thing.) It had the best F3 ever and an amazing ending but was it really worth the 92 days to get tot hat point? 11 had a good start and faded more as time went on, so it was kind of the opposite trajectory as 9. I'd rate them both at about the same spot.

[Daniel.]

You only like James cause he's good looking. Stop lying to yourself :yawn:

I know why I like James and I couldn't give two ****s why you think I do

[Jason.]

Surely it's not a coinidience that the girls who had a problem with Hellbeast in BB15 are the ones considered as BB15 saviours on this forum. Yet the guys who also did (Chris and Christopher) don't get any of the credit.

Like Christopher actually put Helen in her place which is more than what Toya did yet she's loved and he isn't. Idgi?

[Ashley.]

You only like James cause he's good looking. Stop lying to yourself :yawn:

literally Cristian teas :yawn:

[EspeonBB]

tbh Christopher just bored me, I don't really see him being a fave of mine even if he was female. Plus his showmance with Mark was terrible and randomly took up loads of screentime :sleep:

[Jason.]

literally Cristian teas :yawn:

Vanessa?

[Ross.]

screaming at ****ing Helen Wood coming up in a discussion about BB8/9/10/11. :joker:

[Oaker]

I wish I never mentioned BB15

[Firewire]

screaming at ****ing Helen Wood coming up in a discussion about BB8/9/10/11. :joker:

her impact

[Jason.]

I wish I never mentioned BB15

I wish too :joker:

[Jason.]

I think BB15 should be censored

[Daniel.]

I wasn't pressed about Helen I was pressed at someone who doesn't know me telling me why I like James yet again.

[Oaker]

I think BB15 should be censored

Same

[Shaun]

9 > 8 > 11 > 10

[Ross.]

I wish I never mentioned BB15

look at what you've caused

[EspeonBB]

Bringing up BB15 always causes hurt and upset :bored:

[goldensunlight]

BB10 was great, a truly underrated series with BB9 closely following. I enjoyed BB11 at the time, but they ruined the final with that vote to evict. And I didn't see much of BB8 so I can't comment on that.

[Pete.]

Bringing up BB15 always causes hurt and upset :bored:
Not really here for the debates BB16 will cause in the future too

[GLENN BILL BB7]

Ew @ the BB9 love

BB9 is the Best!

It has a good launch night twist
Diverse cast
Nice house
A Fight Night
Drama throughout
Food fights and funny moments.

[Oaker]

I doubt BB16 will ever create as much chaos as BB15 tbh

[EspeonBB]

Not really here for the debates BB16 will cause in the future too

I doubt BB16 will be brought up much tbh. Most people want to forget about it

[Pete.]

I doubt BB16 will ever create as much chaos as BB15 tbh
I don't know it had Helen and Joel

[GLENN BILL BB7]

Also BB9 the nice people get rewarded in the end.

Lisa, Sara and Rachel.

[Pete.]

Also BB9 the nice people get rewarded in the end.

Lisa, Sara and Rachel.
<3

[Daniel.]

BB9 had a really boring cast.

[Oaker]

I just try to forget about BB16's males and remember the amazing female cast <3

[Jason.]

I don't know it had Helen and Joel

Is Joel even worthy of a name mention yet alone an entire discussion :worry:

[Jason.]

I doubt BB16 will be brought up much tbh. Most people want to forget about it

BB15 anyone?

[GLENN BILL BB7]

Why are people still talking about BB15 and BB16!?

[Oaker]

oh right so BB9 sucks and BB10 is better

and BB8 is ok

[Pete.]

Is Joel even worthy of a name mention yet alone an entire discussion :worry:
Yes because Joel would have won if production hadn't saved Chloe over Sam

[Oaker]

I liked Joel :shrug:

Chloe >> tho

[EspeonBB]

A lot of the reason I'm not here for BB10 is because I don't care about any of the main characters (apart from Queen Bea <33333333). My faves are either background characters (Sophie, Hira) or left early (Sophia, Angel)

[Jason.]

Yes because Joel would have won if production hadn't saved Chloe over Sam

The only good decision the producers made tbh :clap2:

[Pete.]

The only good decision the producers made tbh :clap2:
:clap1:

[Jason.]

I don't dislike Joel (well not strongly like I do the BB15) but he really was a pompous ass wipe (or whatever it is Jade called him)

[Jason.]

Why are people still talking about BB15 and BB16!?

DAMN IT OAKER!!

:worry:

[Oaker]

Don't blame me for this :fist:

[GLENN BILL BB7]

I love Michael Myers, He's such a boss!

Halloween H20 would be my fav one.

[EspeonBB]

Style is the song of the year

[Oaker]

Wildest Dreams > Style

[Jason.]

I love Michael Myers, He's such a boss!

Halloween H20 would be my fav one.

<3

[Pete.]

Wildest Dreams > Style
Oh now you want to really fight

[GLENN BILL BB7]

Ed Sheeran - Photograph is my fav this year.

[LukeB]

BB8

[Ross.]

Oh now you want to really fight

:joker:

[EspeonBB]

Wildest Dreams > Style

http://i.minus.com/i1KzhSaSBgxEM.gif
We can't be friends

[Oaker]

Wildest Dreams and Style are both amazing, I just like WD more :worry:

[GLENN BILL BB7]

I remember I liked BB11 back in 2010.

But now I'm not really looking forward to re watching it as not many people like it.

[Daniel.]

Taylor Swift is awful

http://i.minus.com/i1KzhSaSBgxEM.gif

[Pete.]

I remember I liked BB11 back in 2010.

But now I'm not really looking forward to re watching it as not many people like it.
Wait until Liam comes on to defend BB11 tbh then it won't be too one sided

[Jason.]

Wait until Liam comes on to defend BB11 tbh then it won't be too one sided

:joker:

[GLENN BILL BB7]

Is he the one who loves John James?

There's also someone who hates BB8 I think called MB.

[Lostie!]

I love Michael Myers, He's such a boss!

Halloween H20 would be my fav one.

God Glenn, try to stay on topic will you? :idc:

:hee:

[Jason.]

Is he the one who loves John James?

There's also someone who hates BB8 I think called MB.

I've seen many John James lovers.

But yes, MB hates BB8 :joker: I don't think he likes any of the decline era series apart from BB9? Not sure about that though.

[GLENN BILL BB7]

Sorry LOL

Ok The results currently stand...

BB9 > BB8 > BB10 >>> BB11.

my brain agrees with the results.

[MB.]

that was a joke, i even pmed you about that to tell you. you didn't take that seriously did you? :shrug:

Mine was a joke too D:

...my point :thumbs:

[Oaker]

BB10 losing to BB8 and BB9 is tragic

[GLENN BILL BB7]

You guys are funny.

[Macie Lightfoot]

BB10 losing to BB8 and BB9 is tragic

BB10 is soooooooo awful omfg, the first half is a true C4 low.

[Jason.]

Guys, guys, guys, the important thing here is that BB11 has no votes

:joker:

[Oaker]

Well no one likes trash BB11

[Daniel.]

BB10 is amazing

[Jason.]

Well no one likes trash BB11

Liam shade?

[Jason.]

I agree with Macie's spot on post a few pages back and how BB11 is not worse than BB15/16 though.

Even if BB11 does suck.

[Daniel.]

BB15 and BB16 at least had some entertaining moments you know

[GLENN BILL BB7]

BB10 has no classic Arguments really does it.

[Oaker]

The second half of BB10 is amazing and everyone knows it

[Daniel.]

It has loads of classic arguments :umm2:

[Jason.]

BB15 and BB16 had so many things wrong with them that it just became a low for BB. I mean both those series managed to dent ratings even lower for C5 than it was already getting. You have people saying the show needs to be axed and it's not the same show anymore just because of these two series alone.

[GLENN BILL BB7]

Queen Noirin owning Bea "Piss off and mind your own ****ing business!" <3

[GLENN BILL BB7]

I really hope BB17 isn't bad cause then that would be 3 bad years in a row.

The need new producers.

[Oaker]

I feel like the future of BB is going to depend on BB17.

[Jason.]

BB17 will rate badly regardless how good the series is, imo.

I genuinely think BB15 and BB16 has done so much damage to the show. Helen's win has made people turn off and those that remained for BB16 will probably tune off given they managed to make it even worse than the series the year before.

[Jason.]

I also blame BB16 for CBB16 rating badly.

[GLENN BILL BB7]

I think they signed a contract till 2018.

[Oaker]

I actually see a lot of love for BB15 on twitter (Awful I know), but even those people hated BB16, so surely they must learn from the low ratings and this.

[GLENN BILL BB7]

Another 3 years of torture haha

[Jason.]

TBH, I have a feeling CBB17 will be mediocre compared to the last two Jan CBB's.

[Pete.]

:thumbs:

[Jason.]

I actually see a lot of love for BB15 on twitter (Awful I know), but even those people hated BB16, so surely they must learn from the low ratings and this.

I think the producers know BB15 sucked. It gave them so much controversy which hindered it more than it helped.

[Jason.]

TBH, it's gotten to the point where I expect the worst of the show now. Bad I know.

I genuinely feel CBB17 in January won't get 3m average and will slip back to 2.9m or something, like how it was before CBB13.

[Oaker]

They need to revamp the show like they did with Secrets and Lies imo

The promotion for that was good and it had a fresh feeling to it which brought in ratings.

[Jason.]

They need to revamp the show like they did with Secrets and Lies imo

TBH Secrets and Lies made it what it is today. A manipulated mess. The only reason BB14 did well from it was because it was a new with it.

Like it's been over 2 months since BB16 ended and C5 still hasn't released the official series average for the series - something they did after a few weeks with previous series.

[GLENN BILL BB7]

Is CBB16 any good? I'm not watching it for some reason.

Usually the series' that I don't watch always end up to be good fs.

[Oaker]

Is CBB16 any good? I'm not watching it for some reason.

Usually the series' that I don't watch always end up to be good fs.

It's amazing :flutter:

[Jason.]

It's really good.

Best summer CBB.

[GLENN BILL BB7]

They are probably too embarrassed by the BB16 ratings lol

[Jason.]

1.37m though :fan:

[Ross.]

Nice to see BB6 has derailed another thread.



:fan:

[GLENN BILL BB7]

What is so good about it compared to previous CBB Series'?

[Jason.]

Nice to see BB6 has derailed another thread.



:fan:

TBF, this thread has been derailed since page 2 and that was because Oaker brought up BB15

so I will not have this blasphemy :nono:

[Pete.]

BB14 > BB13

Fume all you want Dan, you can't deny its impact!

[Jason.]

BB14 > BB13

Fume all you want Dan, you can't deny its impact!

He'll call you a freak. Be prepared.

[Lostie!]

BB14 is so overrated imo.

[Oaker]

BB14 was just average

BB13 was amazing however :love:

[Jason.]

I enjoyed it, but FFS it ruined BB :inamood:

@BB14

[Ross.]

BB14 > BB13

Fume all you want Dan, you can't deny its impact!

Truth tea has just been spilled everywhere :clap1:

[Daniel.]

Queen Noirin owning Bea "Piss off and mind your own ****ing business!" <3

Erm no Queen Bea owned Noirin

[Daniel.]

Me caring about BB14 it introduced the constant rigging, manipulation, overuse of secret rooms and themes.

[Jason.]

Secret and Lies was a success, so they brought themes back for BB15 and it failed with Power Trip. So they thought they'd see if they worked with CBB15 and Twisted Fairytale and well it got 3.1m so it did. That gave them faith for another theme in BB16, so we got Timeflop, oh I mean Timebomb. So that flopped again.

C5 have tried to mimick BB14 since and it's made the show worse.

[Oaker]

The Safe House was an amazing secret room though, its a shame they kept reusing it.

[Jason.]

The BB14 twists were good.

[Daniel.]

The eviction night was good but there wasn't even a row when they returned, the outcome was the biggest flop.

[Daniel.]

The eviction night was good but there wasn't even a row when they returned, the outcome was the biggest flop..

[Jason.]

Did BB12/BB13 have outside contact?

I forgot about those series, tbh.

[Oaker]

BB14's twists APART FROM the Launch Night twist were all good

[Oaker]

Did BB12/BB13 have outside contact?

I forgot about those series, tbh.

Not really

They had Friends and Family nominations though

[Jason.]

God that cringe suitcase shredding thing.

Like anyone with half a braincell would know they can't actually shred your suitcase with your belongings in them considering you paid for them and are yours. So it's destroying other people's property.

[Daniel.]

BB13 was amazing ergh

[Babayaro.]

BB10 and BB9 are level imo but if I had to chose then it would be BB10, just for the fact Marcus Akin exists

[Daniel.]

who

[Jason.]

If BB13 aired in 2014 instead of BB15 :flutter:

[Oaker]

If BB13 had BB15 level of production value it would have been almost perfect

(I mean the hosting, graphics and eviction nights)

[Daniel.]

BB10's female cast leaves me bald

Bea, Noirin, Karly, Angel and one of the best winners ever Sophie :love:

[Jason.]

Yeah, BB13 was really tacky looking and was suffering from early C5 era syndrome and Brian Dowling.

Had it been broadcast now with Emma and better eye, graphics, and stuff like that it would be flawless.

[Oaker]

BB15 and CBB16's graphics slay me

[Jason.]

BB15 and CBB16's graphics slay me

And CBB15's

That moon <3

[Oaker]

I like how all the graphics have been great lately and then there's Timebomb's

[Daniel.]

CBB16 has been the best overall C5 season imo, and probably my fourth favourite series ever after 5 6 and 7


Just scalped

[Pete.]

BB13 :flutter:

[Jason.]

I like how all the graphics have been great lately and then there's Timebomb

Timebomb's graphics were awful.

The dark lighting outside makes me want to vomit.

I think the CBB15 is my favourite C5 graphics. They were beautiful. Even the exterior set that series looked amazing.

https://ct-group-website.s3.amazonaws.com/production/image/file/154/large_2.jpg
https://ct-group-website.s3.amazonaws.com/production/image/file/153/large_1.jpg

[Babayaro.]

who

BB10's real winner, that's who

[GLENN BILL BB7]

The Irrepressible dark horse.

[Dominic]

I watched a lot of BBUK during my TiBB break and I'm gonna have to say BB8. A lot of it is because of Charley :laugh:

[Daniel.]

Sophie deserved it way more than Marcus did, thankfully the public saw that :clap1:

[Babayaro.]

Sophie deserved it way more than Marcus did, thankfully the public saw that :clap1:

Hardly. She was a bore who did nothing, one of the worst winners imo

[Daniel.]

Nah she was fun and likeable who entertained me way more than Marcus did

[Firewire]

Marcus is the worst housemate of all time

[Daniel.]

Conor, Helen, Marc <

[Babayaro.]

Marcus is the worst housemate of all time

:/

[reece(:]

BB8, by far.

[Jordan.]

10 > 9 > 8 > 11

[Macie Lightfoot]

Hardly. She was a bore who did nothing, one of the worst winners imo

and Marcus did what exactly?

[Babayaro.]

Have a read through his quotes thread, you'll enjoy it

[Macie Lightfoot]

no thx, I rewatched 10 recently and there wasn't much enjoyable about Marcus. Apparently it was clever when he called David a fat ****? I don't find anything witty or clever about that, how trite.

[Firewire]

He was vile.

[Niamh.]

BB10

[Babayaro.]

Oh that was pretty funny