View Full Version : James Hill Are the other Housemates scared to side against him?
Mystic Mock
21-09-2015, 10:49 PM
I mean no way do any of them Housemates agree with James backstabbing his friend really, so do you think it's more the fact that they're scared of taking on the James supporters? Or that they hate Austin so badly that they're relishing in James's betrayal?
Poll will be coming shortly.
Lostie!
21-09-2015, 10:51 PM
I think the only ones genuinely up in arms about it are Austin and Jenna.
Visage
21-09-2015, 10:53 PM
We don't know how long Austin has been carrying, it may have reached a point where a few of them can no longer take any of his outbursts.
Daniel.
21-09-2015, 10:53 PM
No because he didn't backstab anyone
Liam-
21-09-2015, 10:53 PM
Or maybe they do just agree with James and his decision, it's not really that hard to believe
joeysteele
21-09-2015, 10:53 PM
I mean no way do any of them Housemates agree with James backstabbing his friend really, so do you think it's more the fact that they're scared of taking on the James supporters? Or that they hate Austin so badly that they're relishing in James's betrayal?
Poll will be coming shortly.
None of them really agreed with Janice giving up the task and then showing the massive disrespect she did to Austins letter and the person who sent him it, by throwing on the floor at his feet.
Yet not a word.
I don't know about being scared as to James and his support but it seems the worst and most devious people get the rewards this series.
Mystic Mock
21-09-2015, 10:54 PM
I think the only ones genuinely up in arms about it are Austin and Jenna.
And rightly so imo.
Stevi's face said it all that James shouldn't have nominated Austin, and to a lesser extent Jenna as they're allies.
Jordan.
21-09-2015, 10:54 PM
They're scared to say anything negative in general. Austin and Jenna do it all and take the flack for it so they don't have to.
Mystic Mock
21-09-2015, 10:57 PM
No because he didn't backstab anyone
:laugh3:
No offence Daniel but I'm sure that if it was the other way around I'm sure that you and loud mouths Natasha and Bobby would be calling Austin every name under the sun.
Lostie!
21-09-2015, 10:57 PM
And rightly so imo.
Stevi's face said it all that James shouldn't have nominated Austin, and to a lesser extent Jenna as they're allies.
As much as I detest him, Austin being annoyed makes sense. Jenna, on the other hand, has no right to be offended and preaching about loyalty whatsoever. She nominated him before he ever nominated her.
And none of those poll options reflect my stance on it.
rusticgal
21-09-2015, 11:02 PM
They are not scared of James...maybe surprised by his nomination but they should respect him for his honesty. James talks a lot of sense and has never lost his temper...instead of being a hypocrite he stood up for what he thought was right...and Austins behaviour was appalling.
Austin would have done the same to James had he given him any reason to.
Daniel.
21-09-2015, 11:03 PM
:laugh3:
No offence Daniel but I'm sure that if it was the other way around I'm sure that you and loud mouths Natasha and Bobby would be calling Austin every name under the sun.
Um no I wouldn't because Austin was one of my favourites until yesterday where I went off him for how he's acting, as James, Natasha and Bobby did. :)
LukeB
21-09-2015, 11:03 PM
Austin is only pissed off that James likes Janice. he doesn't want anyone to like Janice that's why he moans about it. James didn't do anything wrong just got fed up with Austin's behaviour.
its a game show, and there isn't a single one of them in that house behaving normally and not treating it like an event for the cameras. None of them are behaving as they would in real life so normal rules of life just don't apply
jaxie
21-09-2015, 11:22 PM
:laugh3:
No offence Daniel but I'm sure that if it was the other way around I'm sure that you and loud mouths Natasha and Bobby would be calling Austin every name under the sun.
Not everyone has to shout and scream, disrespect peoples families and call them c.u.next tuesday to get their point across. You can't justify Austen's dreadful behaviour by implying we'd all act that way. We don' t.
jaxie
21-09-2015, 11:25 PM
its a game show, and there isn't a single one of them in that house behaving normally and not treating it like an event for the cameras. None of them are behaving as they would in real life so normal rules of life just don't apply
Normal rules of appropriate behavior ALWAYS apply.
Mystic Mock
22-09-2015, 12:06 AM
Not everyone has to shout and scream, disrespect peoples families and call them c.u.next tuesday to get their point across. You can't justify Austen's dreadful behaviour by implying we'd all act that way. We don' t.
Where in that post did I say that we'd call Janice a ****?
I mean as much as I disliked Danny in BB16, the one thing that I'll give him credit for was that he was loyal and would wait awhile before nominating any of his friends/allies in case he could mend things over with them, clearly something that James hasn't learned.
And as I've said on another thread how come it's okay for James to backstab Austin but it's not okay for Dappy to backstab Luisa, or Ashleigh to backstab Christopher? This question is directed at everybody.
Pink Pegasus
22-09-2015, 12:07 AM
I agree with you that there are definitely housemates there that really don't agree with James nominating Austin. Some extremely shocked looking faces when that nom was revealed! Also Sherrie saying at the table that it was very weird and would be as bad as her nominating Natasha to which I think Natasha nodded her head in agreement.
I don't know though if it's because of any of the reasons in the poll. I think they just don't want to get involved in the row and want to stay out of the James/Austin betrayal thing. Maybe it's because it's so close to the final or maybe because some of them just tend to avoid getting involved in rows most of the time anyways unless it involves them directly.
Bobby and Jenna seemed to be the only main ones who gave their opinions on the matter, even though they had very differing views on it.
*mazedsalv**
22-09-2015, 12:09 AM
Ridiculous options.
They have sided with James because Austin has acted horrifically for the past 10 days. That's it. They are not scared of James, and they do not dislike Austin.
In fact, I'm pretty sure they LIKE Austin, it's this week that has been the problem. Austin had only got 3 noms in total before this week, to get 4 in one day when there's less people proves he has been acting viciously. So, the noms I really think were ALL due to his behaviour, but not for him as a person.
Vanessa
22-09-2015, 12:12 AM
Ridiculous options.
They have sided with James because Austin has acted horrifically for the past 10 days. That's it. They are not scared of James, and they do not dislike Austin.
In fact, I'm pretty sure they LIKE Austin, it's this week that has been the problem. Austin had only got 3 noms in total before this week, to get 4 in one day when there's less people proves he has been acting viciously. So, the noms I really think were ALL due to his behaviour, but not for him as a person.
:clap1:
jaxie
22-09-2015, 12:36 AM
Where in that post did I say that we'd call Janice a ****?
I mean as much as I disliked Danny in BB16, the one thing that I'll give him credit for was that he was loyal and would wait awhile before nominating any of his friends/allies in case he could mend things over with them, clearly something that James hasn't learned.
And as I've said on another thread how come it's okay for James to backstab Austin but it's not okay for Dappy to backstab Luisa, or Ashleigh to backstab Christopher? This question is directed at everybody.
Former series of BB I haven't watched are completely irrelevant.
Mystic Mock
22-09-2015, 01:01 AM
Former series of BB I haven't watched are completely irrelevant.
Fair enough if you haven't watched them but they are relevant to the discussion because these exact same people that are siding with James here attacked at least one of those two Housemates when they did it and they can't do that as it's blatantly hypocritical.
jaxie
22-09-2015, 01:04 AM
Fair enough if you haven't watched them but they are relevant to the discussion because these exact same people that are siding with James here attacked at least one of those two Housemates when they did it and they can't do that as it's blatantly hypocritical.
Not me.
Not a fair poll so am no playing.
Stormy
22-09-2015, 02:57 AM
No they're not scared of him at all...they just have a sense of decency which is sorely lacking in Jenna and Austin right now.
Mystic Mock
22-09-2015, 03:02 AM
No they're not scared of him at all...they just have a sense of decency which is sorely lacking in Jenna and Austin right now.
Yes they're so decent they're siding with someone that backstabbed his friend.
Stormy
22-09-2015, 03:04 AM
Yes they're so decent they're siding with someone that backstabbed his friend.
You just can't let go on the 'backstabbing' thing. :laugh:
It's like that saying..."You can't see the forest for the trees".
I do admire your fortitude, though. You really stand strong for what you believe in no matter what. Reminds me of James. :hehe:
Mystic Mock
22-09-2015, 03:07 AM
You just can't let go on the 'backstabbing' thing. :laugh:
It's like that saying..."You can't see the forest for the trees".
I do admire your fortitude, though. You really stand strong for what you believe in no matter what. Reminds me of James. :hehe:
Because his getting away with something that no other Housemate in the history of Big Brother has ever been able to get away with (even Pete Bennett had to have Tourettes to get away with his behaviour) And haha at James standing for what he believes, that's good Comedy.
Stormy
22-09-2015, 03:15 AM
Because his getting away with something that no other Housemate in the history of Big Brother has ever been able to get away with (even Pete Bennett had to have Tourettes to get away with his behaviour) And haha at James standing for what he believes, that's good Comedy.
Fair enough...there's probably truth to that...but I don't watch the other BB's. I only watch CBB.
The last few series of CBB had some pretty vile people that got away with a lot because their 'friends' wouldn't turn on them....and yet when they get out of the house their so-called friends are embarrassed for supporting them and end up turning away.
It's refreshing to see a housemate finally sticking up for their principles and daring to go against a friend when he's done something wrong.
If James had turned against Austin for no reason, I would be whole heartedly behind the 'back stabbing' theory too...but he did have a reason. It's not as if they were lifelong friends. Austin did behave badly, you can't deny that.
Mystic Mock
22-09-2015, 03:19 AM
James didn't turn on Austin because of his own morals though that's the point, his doing it to try and look good in front of the public and because large sections of the public fancy James and hate Austin they're willing to accept any of his bull**** that his trying to sell.
It's absolutely disgusting how people will twist what they like and dislike in certain contestants in any given year, just a few months ago we had Cristian and Danny being abused for behaviour that was not as bad as an unprovoked James backstabbing Austin.
Stormy
22-09-2015, 03:28 AM
James didn't turn on Austin because of his own morals though that's the point, his doing it to try and look good in front of the public and because large sections of the public fancy James and hate Austin they're willing to accept any of his bull**** that his trying to sell.
It's absolutely disgusting how people will twist what they like and dislike in certain contestants in any given year, just a few months ago we had Cristian and Danny being abused for behaviour that was not as bad as an unprovoked James backstabbing Austin.
That's were we disagree. I believe James did turn on Austin because of his morals.
Yes...it was perhaps overly pompus and egotistical morals...but it was his morals, in the end.
Jenna really tried to get James to turn on Janice as well and when he realized that James wasn't going to stoop that low...she panicked and is desperately trying to convince Austin that he was a game player.
I think Austin, deep down in his heart, knows that James is not a massive game player, which is why he keeps asking/forgiving him.
Niamh.
22-09-2015, 10:47 AM
I think all the housemates were shocked that James nominated Austin when they've been best buddies throughout the whole series. Yes I can understand why James felt he needed to, as a friend, tell Austin he was going too far with Janice but I don't get why he felt he needed to nominate him when he's apparently the closest person to him in there? I mean that he took it upon himself to punish his friend on someone elses behalf I suppose it depends on how you view things like this. For me loyalty to my friend would top punishing them for how they're treating someone else. It looks bad on james I think and I think the other HMs are slightly wary of him because of it eventhough they might have wanted Austin up anyway
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