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Dollface
23-09-2015, 01:02 AM
If Aisleyne had enough control to begin with there would have been no physical element. Farrah proved that by showing up Nicola Unclean and James Jordan tbh

she had some control though, to not throw her actual glass, unlike farrah

i don't like either of them so i'm not being biased, i just think farrah went OTT

Daniel.
23-09-2015, 01:02 AM
Nothing will happen to either of them

Lostie!
23-09-2015, 01:03 AM
Both are in the wrong of course but Farrah took it too far

So did Aisleyne. Farrah took it even further of course, but throwing the drink in the first place was too far itself.

bots
23-09-2015, 01:03 AM
Both are in the wrong of course but Farrah took it too far

how do you know that? All we have is what looks like Aisleyne going to throw a drink

Amy Jade
23-09-2015, 01:04 AM
like you? you've made it clear you dislike aisleyne ..before we knew anything you straight away came to farrahs defense claiming that she wasn't violent, dispite you not being there.

You say that but I have repeatedly said both are to blame and should be held accountable but I am just keeping in perspective that fights have an instigator.

If somebody attacked you physically and you fought back and injured them is it not still their fault for attacking you first?

Dollface
23-09-2015, 01:04 AM
how do you know that? All we have is what looks like Asliene going to throw a drink

we're going by what someone from the BOTS audience wrote on twitter, i think it's like 2 pages back (in this thread)

Amy Jade
23-09-2015, 01:06 AM
she had some control though, to not throw her actual glass, unlike farrah

i don't like either of them so i'm not being biased, i just think farrah went OTT

Some control would not throwing something at another person in my book but hey ho we all have different moral compasses.

LukeB
23-09-2015, 01:06 AM
So did Aisleyne. Farrah took it even further of course, but throwing the drink in the first place was too far itself.

that's what I meant :laugh:

Dollface
23-09-2015, 01:08 AM
You say that but I have repeatedly said both are to blame and should be held accountable but I am just keeping in perspective that fights have an instigator.

If somebody attacked you physically and you fought back and injured them is it not still their fault for attacking you first?

yes you've said they're both in the wrong, but you keep saying that aisleyne's instigated it, as some sort of defense for farrah, but imo there's no excuse for throwing an actual glass, what if it had hit someone in the face and scarred all of their face up?


i don't see throwing a drink as a psychical attack though, you can't hurt someone with a bit of water or champagne

Dollface
23-09-2015, 01:09 AM
Some control would not throwing something at another person in my book but hey ho we all have different moral compasses.

oh we certainly do

bots
23-09-2015, 01:10 AM
we're going by what someone from the BOTS audience wrote on twitter, i think it's like 2 pages back (in this thread)

eye witness reports are usually very inaccurate, and we don't even know if that person was even there. Maybe Farrah did something, I don't know, but one cannot judge who is worse without the facts

Amy Jade
23-09-2015, 01:12 AM
yes you've said they're both in the wrong, but you keep saying that aisleyne's instigated it, as some sort of defense for farrah, but imo there's no excuse for throwing an actual glass, what if it had hit someone in the face and scarred all of their face up?


i don't see throwing a drink as a psychical attack though, you can't hurt someone with a bit of water or champagne

You need to make up your mind - first you say I have said both are to blame but then you say I am defending Farrah :shrug:

I'm defending nobody in the situation but in situations such as this where both parties are partially to blame and seek out the instigator, who appears to be Aisleyne.

Dollface
23-09-2015, 01:13 AM
eye witness reports are usually very inaccurate, and we don't even know if that person was even there. Maybe Farrah did something, I don't know, but one cannot judge who is worse without the facts

true

LukeB
23-09-2015, 01:13 AM
tbh Farrah should have chucked her drink over Aisleyne instead of an actual glass then it would be Aisleyne's fault and the one in the wrong but Farrah done something really extreme and chucked a glass. So i can't excuse Farrah at all. Both are in the wrong and are tits. I rather have someone throw a drink over me instead of a glass which could scar me.

Dollface
23-09-2015, 01:16 AM
You need to make up your mind - first you say I have said both are to blame but then you say I am defending Farrah :shrug:

I'm defending nobody in the situation but in situations such as this where both parties are partially to blame and seek out the instigator, who appears to be Aisleyne.

I think i made it clear what i meant, you say both are wrong (well you've said that once, i think) but from your posts, which constantly bring up aisleyne's part in it (and the fact you haven't even addressed the fact farrah threw a glass) screams of bias to me.

Dollface
23-09-2015, 01:16 AM
tbh Farrah should have chucked her drink over Aisleyne instead of an actual glass then it would be Aisleyne's fault and the one in the wrong but Farrah done something really extreme and chucked a glass. So i can't excuse Farrah at all. Both are in the wrong and are tits. I rather have someone throw a drink over me instead of a glass which could scar me.

this is exactly what i've been trying to say :clap1:

Stormy
23-09-2015, 01:19 AM
tbh Farrah should have chucked her drink over Aisleyne instead of an actual glass then it would be Aisleyne's fault and the one in the wrong but Farrah done something really extreme and chucked a glass. So i can't excuse Farrah at all. Both are in the wrong and are tits. I rather have someone throw a drink over me instead of a glass which could scar me.

:clap1::clap1::clap1:

Amy Jade
23-09-2015, 01:20 AM
I think i made it clear what i meant, you say both are wrong (well you've said that once, i think) but from your posts, which constantly bring up aisleyne's part in it (and the fact you haven't even addressed the fact farrah threw a glass) screams of bias to me.

If I've spacifically stated BOTH are to blame then how am I biased?

All I'm saying is if two people fight one has to have started the fight, all reports are saying that person is Aisleyne - had it been Farrah I would say the exact same, for me the blame lies with the first person to become physical.

Call me biased if it suits you though :laugh:

Dollface
23-09-2015, 01:24 AM
It's not letting me quote (again :fist:) so this is @Amy Jade;

I've already explained how I think you're being biased lmao, (the fact you stated that farrah wasn't violent BEFORE knowing anything about what had happened, kinda shows who's side you was always on :rolleyes:) do you want me to go over it another 10 times? :conf:

Ok, we have a difference of opinion then.

Amy Jade
23-09-2015, 01:29 AM
As soon as it was brought up Farrah threw a chair did I not agree with Liam both should be held accountable?

Yes.

Stormy
23-09-2015, 01:37 AM
As soon as it was brought up Farrah threw a chair did I not agree with Liam both should be held accountable?

Yes.

Let's see...someone throwing champagne and getting a person wet AND someone throwing a chair and getting someone sent to the hospital.

Hmmmm....no difference, both at fault. No bias there. Right. :rolleyes:

Wizard.
23-09-2015, 02:18 AM
According to Janices' spokesperson it was Janice who threw a chair, but it was either Aisleyne or Farrah that threw the glass that hit Vicki.

RichardG
23-09-2015, 02:22 AM
Janice threw the chair? :laugh2:

This story just gets more and more ridiculous, such an odd evening of television lmao

Oaker
23-09-2015, 02:23 AM
omg messy Janice <3

I really wish we actually got to see what happened :joker:

Stormy
23-09-2015, 03:46 AM
Janice threw the chair? :laugh2:

This story just gets more and more ridiculous, such an odd evening of television lmao

If it was Janice throwing the chair she should be ashamed. She should not have gotten into the middle of their argument. Just step away. Getting a little wet doesn't justify throwing glass or chairs at people....so stupid.

Cherie
23-09-2015, 06:03 AM
how do you know that? All we have is what looks like Aisleyne going to throw a drink

:joker:but why let that get in the way of spreading rumours

colin72
23-09-2015, 06:05 AM
Sorry to hear Farrah left the studio alive.

Beso
23-09-2015, 06:20 AM
tomorrows chip wrapper.

arista
23-09-2015, 06:24 AM
http://i1.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article6496725.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/vicki-michelle-tweet.jpg

arista
23-09-2015, 06:27 AM
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/09/23/02/2CA9C5A900000578-3245598-More_tweets_At_around_2am_on_Wednesday_morning_Ais leyne_posted_a-a-46_1442971494233.jpg

arista
23-09-2015, 06:29 AM
All because Farrah called Aisleyne
a HAG
just before the fight

Pete.
23-09-2015, 06:32 AM
This is the kind of Live Leak footage we want to see

Cherie
23-09-2015, 06:50 AM
All because Farrah called Aisleyne
a HAG
just before the fight

Yeah fair enough, not watched BOTS but as i understand it Ashleyne was on her back from the get go, if she can't handle being called a hag without resorting to throwing stuff she shouldn't be on there provoking. Whatever anyone thinks of any housemate they should not have to endure endless bias on BOTS simply because they are honouring their contractual obligations, their time in the house is over they are there to give opinions on the people they shared a house with, not to be insulted by the panel.

rubymoo
23-09-2015, 08:00 AM
Wow long thread so i've skipped to the last page, i've probably repeated what others have said:)


BBOTS were stupid to put Farrah and Aisleyne on the panel together, surely they would have known what the outcome would be, especially with Farrah and Nicola McClean rowing when Farrah was evicted.

Both Farrah and Aisleyne acted disgustingly, and then throw in the lose cannon that is Janice who keeps throwing herself at everyone, it was a recipe for disaster.

gamepodfan
23-09-2015, 08:03 AM
they might be showing it tonight on cbbbots or aiseyne may be banned from the show

y.winter
23-09-2015, 08:08 AM
Wow, I went to sleep skipping BOTS and than this happened.
Can someone please summarize what has happened?

gamepodfan
23-09-2015, 08:10 AM
Wow, I went to sleep skipping BOTS and than this happened.
Can someone please summarize what has happened?

fighting ,live feed and vicki going to hospital

Cherie
23-09-2015, 08:14 AM
Wow, I went to sleep skipping BOTS and than this happened.
Can someone please summarize what has happened?

Nobody knows for sure apart from Farrah saying shut up hag to Ashleyne who then threw her drink after that it's speculation apart from Vicki Michelle being cut/ hit and going to hospital

bots
23-09-2015, 08:21 AM
Yeah fair enough, not watched BOTS but as i understand it Ashleyne was on her back from the get go, if she can't handle being called a hag without resorting to throwing stuff she shouldn't be on there provoking. Whatever anyone thinks of any housemate they should not have to endure endless bias on BOTS simply because they are honouring their contractual obligations, their time in the house is over they are there to give opinions on the people they shared a house with, not to be insulted by the panel.

Ashleyne had earlier told Farrah to **** off back to the USA so the hag comment was not unprovoked

Amy Jade
23-09-2015, 08:22 AM
Aisleyne tweeted the other feral Nicola Unclean that she was going to throw a drink on Farrah and also wrote in her blog she wanted to do the same, she went on the show knowing she would attack Farrah. The only person who had any premeditated actions was Aisleyne but BOTS knew that so they should have NEVER had her on the show to begin with.

I can only hope Aisleyne is now banned from the show, she is a mess and she is a mess.

Cherie
23-09-2015, 08:23 AM
Ashleyne had earlier told Farrah to **** off back to the USA so the hag comment was not unprovoked

Read my post again I said Ashleyne was on there solely to provoke?

arista
23-09-2015, 08:26 AM
Yeah fair enough, not watched BOTS but as i understand it Ashleyne was on her back from the get go, if she can't handle being called a hag without resorting to throwing stuff she shouldn't be on there provoking. Whatever anyone thinks of any housemate they should not have to endure endless bias on BOTS simply because they are honouring their contractual obligations, their time in the house is over they are there to give opinions on the people they shared a house with, not to be insulted by the panel.


You do not have that is on Every Clip
showing Bitch Farrah start it.

gamepodfan
23-09-2015, 08:26 AM
Aisleyne tweeted the other feral Nicola Unclean that she was going to throw a drink on Farrah and also wrote in her blog she wanted to do the same, she went on the show knowing she would attack Farrah. The only person who had any premeditated actions was Aisleyne but BOTS knew that so they should have NEVER had her on the show to begin with.

I can only hope Aisleyne is now banned from the show, she is a mess and she is a mess.

thats what i said

Cherie
23-09-2015, 08:28 AM
You do not have that is on Every Clip
shown Bitch Farrah start it.

As I understand it Ashleyne had already tweeted she was going to throw a drink?

arista
23-09-2015, 08:29 AM
As I understand it Ashleyne had already tweeted she was going to throw a drink?


So would you if a American Bitch Shouted "Hag" at you

Amy Jade
23-09-2015, 08:30 AM
Oh yeah I watched how it panned out (something like this)

Rylan: I probably shouldn't ask this but Aisleyne do you miss Farrah in the house?
Aisleyne: No not at all she was a silly little girl
Farrah: I am a respectable woman
Aisleyne: Get your cheque and get on a ****ing plane home nobody likes you. Nobody wants you here.
Farrah: At least I got paid for the show

secondly

Farrah: I commend James for speaking up against Austins behaviour
Aisleyne: (interrupting Farrah) what about your actions
Farrah: shut up hag

From then on Aisleyne picked up a glass and threw its content at Farrah and Farrah apparently threw the glass back and Janice picked up a chair?

Cherie
23-09-2015, 08:30 AM
So would you if a American Bitch Shouted "Hag" at you

Not really I have been called worse and Ashleyne certainly has :laugh:

Cherie
23-09-2015, 08:33 AM
Oh yeah I watched how it panned out (something like this)

Rylan: I probably shouldn't ask this but Aisleyne do you miss Farrah in the house?
Aisleyne: No not at all she was a silly little girl
Farrah: I am a respectable woman
Aisleyne: Get your cheque and get on a ****ing plane home nobody likes you. Nobody wants you here.
Farrah: At least I got paid for the show

secondly

Farrah: I commend James for speaking up against Austins behaviour
Aisleyne: (interrupting Farrah) what about your actions
Farrah: shut up hag

From then on Aisleyne picked up a glass and threw its content at Farrah and Farrah apparently threw the glass back and Janice picked up a chair?

So in essence there was very little for Ashleyne to kick off about but she had promised her followers a drink throwing so she had to follow through

arista
23-09-2015, 08:33 AM
[secondly

Farrah: I commend James for speaking up against Austins behaviour
Aisleyne: (interrupting Farrah) what about your actions
Farrah: shut up hag

From then on Aisleyne picked up a glass and threw its content at Farrah and Farrah apparently threw the glass back and Janice picked up a chair? ]


Yes Amy

Amy Jade
23-09-2015, 08:33 AM
So would you if a American Bitch Shouted "Hag" at you

Aisleyne had threatened that before she even met Farrah so that makes no sense.

bots
23-09-2015, 08:34 AM
So would you if a American Bitch Shouted "Hag" at you

but Farrah didnt call her a hag before the show. (V)aseline did say she would throw a drink. She also told her to **** off back to the USA several times before Farrah got fed up with her interruptions and called her a hag. I don't like Farrah, but she was heavily provoked.

Amy Jade
23-09-2015, 08:36 AM
So in essence there was vtery little for Ashleyne to kick off about but she had promised her followers a drink throwing so she had to follow through

That's my opinion, Aisleyne knew going on the set she was going to attack Farrah.

arista
23-09-2015, 08:37 AM
So in essence there was very little for Ashleyne to kick off about but she had promised her followers a drink throwing so she had to follow through


She had call to
since "Hag"
upsets her more


But the other day Rylan ran down to the
desk to stop the fighting,

This time he did not
was he aware of the plan?

Amy Jade
23-09-2015, 08:41 AM
She had call to
since "Hag"
upsets her more


But the other day Rylan ran down to the
desk to stop the fighting,

This time he did not
was he aware of the plan?
I'm sorry but if Aisleyne can't control herself enough not to become physical after being called a hag after she had told Farrah to '**** off home' then she has nobody to blame but herself.

Nobody knows if Rylan did try and stop the fight - the transmition was cut.

arista
23-09-2015, 08:41 AM
but Farrah didnt call her a hag before the show. (V)aseline did say she would throw a drink. She also told her to **** off back to the USA several times before Farrah got fed up with her interruptions and called her a hag. I don't like Farrah, but she was heavily provoked.


Sure
I assume no one knew Janice
would chuck a chair
but maybe she wanted a rest

Kizzy
23-09-2015, 08:41 AM
I believe the drink throwing was staged too reading through, bet nobody expected Farrah to throw her glass though :/
Maybe Janice just picked up the chair to protect herself from the glass, I wonder who spoke to their lawyer first... :laugh:

Braden
23-09-2015, 08:42 AM
I just can't believe Aisleyne threw a drink after making such a big deal about Grace doing it :joker:

arista
23-09-2015, 08:43 AM
I'm sorry but if Aisleyne can't control herself enough not to become physical after being called a hag after she had told Farrah to '**** off home' then she has nobody to blame but herself.

Nobody knows if Rylan did try and stop the fight - the transmition was cut.


He should have Run down to stop it
once the Hag word came up.
That bit we did see.,

bots
23-09-2015, 08:43 AM
I believe the drink throwing was staged too reading through, bet nobody expected Farrah to throw her glass though :/
Maybe Janice just picked up the chair to protect herself from the glass, I wonder who spoke to their lawyer first... :laugh:

I just have this image of little old Janice lobbing a chair across the room :spin:

arista
23-09-2015, 08:45 AM
I believe the drink throwing was staged too reading through, bet nobody expected Farrah to throw her glass though :/
Maybe Janice just picked up the chair to protect herself from the glass, I wonder who spoke to their lawyer first... :laugh:


Janice was in the Middle
she picked up the chair to attack the Hag

Stevep
23-09-2015, 08:52 AM
Yeah fair enough, not watched BOTS but as i understand it Ashleyne was on her back from the get go, if she can't handle being called a hag without resorting to throwing stuff she shouldn't be on there provoking. Whatever anyone thinks of any housemate they should not have to endure endless bias on BOTS simply because they are honouring their contractual obligations, their time in the house is over they are there to give opinions on the people they shared a house with, not to be insulted by the panel.

Farrah was the one that was provoking, firstly with Vicki (not letting her get a word in edgeways) and then with Ashleyne. I mean, do people not see a pattern emerging with Farrah? She has come to blows and disrespected almost everybody this BB series, a altercation of this level was bound to happen at some point.

Farrah has been on the BOTS panel twice and on two occasions she's infuriated the entire panel, that pretty much says it all. Ashleyne should not have done what she did but Farrah is quite clearly the instigator to all these heated confrontations. Actually, tbh, i'm glad someone shut her up, perhaps in future she'll think twice before needlessly insulting someone.

y.winter
23-09-2015, 09:00 AM
What a mess. I didn't know how right was (http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8167431&postcount=18) I.
Just watched the program and it's looking really bad, shame it was delayed and the events weren't shown though.
Waiting to hear more details. None of audience members tweeted about it? weird...

Amy Jade
23-09-2015, 09:00 AM
Janice was in the Middle
she picked up the chair to attack the Hag

You seem to be glossing over the fact Aisleyne went on the show with the premeditated motion of throwing her drink over Farrah.

It's ever worse that Aisleyne went to such an extreme over being called a silly name

Vanessa
23-09-2015, 09:01 AM
Farrah was the one that was provoking, firstly with Vicki (not letting her get a word in edgeways) and then with Ashleyne. I mean, do people not see a pattern emerging with Farrah? She has come to blows and disrespected almost everybody this BB series, a altercation of this level was bound to happen at some point.

Farrah has been on the BOTS panel twice and on two occasions she's infuriated the entire panel, that pretty much says it all. Ashleyne should not have done what she did but Farrah is quite clearly the instigator to all these heated confrontations. Actually, tbh, i'm glad someone shut her up, perhaps in future she'll think twice before needlessly insulting someone.

Yes, Farrah was being so rude on that panel i think she's partly to blame for things escalating.

Kazanne
23-09-2015, 09:09 AM
If Vicky was the one that got 'glassed' then i presume Farrah was the one that threw the glass (or the chair that smashed the glass?), makes sense considering where Farrah was sat. Would be a pretty lousy shot from Aislyene considering she was sat right next to her.

My gut instinct is that Aislyene threw her drink and Farrah escalated matters by tossing the chair.

That's not what happened at all,Ashlyne started it all,she was goading Farrah while she was trying to answer Rylans question, she was waiting for the opportunity as she had said she was going to do it so it was premeditated from the gangster bitch
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/entertainment/topnews/celebrity-big-brother-allo-allo-star-vicki-michelle-hurt-by-flying-glass-in-spin-off-show-brawl/ar-AAeFchJ?li=AA5a2k

Kazanne
23-09-2015, 09:12 AM
That's my opinion, Aisleyne knew going on the set she was going to attack Farrah.

Yes and don't forget she is Nicola McCleans best mate who had words with Farrah on an earlier show,this was premeditated allright.

chuff me dizzy
23-09-2015, 09:13 AM
That's not what happened at all,Ashlyne started it all,she was goading Farrah while she was trying to answer Rylans question, she was waiting for the opportunity as she had said she was going to do it so it was premeditated from the gangster bitch
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/entertainment/topnews/celebrity-big-brother-allo-allo-star-vicki-michelle-hurt-by-flying-glass-in-spin-off-show-brawl/ar-AAeFchJ?li=AA5a2k

She was after something to put in her column,she thought as Farrah is hated ,throwing the glass would make her popular, but how wrong was she ? will the lies about her dead Mother and fake tears when Helen beat her hands down with words alone come out again ?

chuff me dizzy
23-09-2015, 09:14 AM
Yes, Farrah was being so rude on that panel i think she's partly to blame for things escalating.

BOTH equally to blame

Kazanne
23-09-2015, 09:17 AM
She was after something to put in her column,she thought as Farrah is hated ,throwing the glass would make her popular, but how wrong was she ? will the lies about her dead Mother and fake tears when Helen beat her hands down with words alone come out again ?

Well said Chuff,that's exactly it ,plus she is Nicola McCleans best mate who had a row with Farrah on another show,lol ,Helen knocks spots off her.

arista
23-09-2015, 09:28 AM
You seem to be glossing over the fact Aisleyne went on the show with the premeditated motion of throwing her drink over Farrah.

It's ever worse that Aisleyne went to such an extreme over being called a silly name



Sure I can see her doing just that,
maybe not the best to have on a panel with
a big MTV star

arista
23-09-2015, 09:29 AM
Yes and don't forget she is Nicola McCleans best mate who had words with Farrah on an earlier show,this was premeditated allright.



Yes the Dumb Bitch

arista
23-09-2015, 09:32 AM
"Rylan ordered everyone to “calm down”."


It was better the other day when he ran over
to Nicola
and Stopped the Fight

chuff me dizzy
23-09-2015, 09:32 AM
Well said Chuff,that's exactly it ,plus she is Nicola McCleans best mate who had a row with Farrah on another show,lol ,Helen knocks spots off her.

Sluts of a feather ..............

Stevep
23-09-2015, 09:37 AM
That's not what happened at all,Ashlyne started it all,she was goading Farrah while she was trying to answer Rylans question, she was waiting for the opportunity as she had said she was going to do it so it was premeditated from the gangster bitch
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/entertainment/topnews/celebrity-big-brother-allo-allo-star-vicki-michelle-hurt-by-flying-glass-in-spin-off-show-brawl/ar-AAeFchJ?li=AA5a2k

Yeah, that post was from last night when speculation of what happened was rife, tbh nobody still truly knows how events panned out so it's still pretty difficult to judge who was more in the wrong.

I still stand by my point a few posts above though, Farrah constantly pokes people, it's happened all series both inside and outside the house, and at some point she was going to come across someone that bit back.

She tried it on with James Jordan, Carol Mcgiffin and Nicola the other night, and last night with Ashleyne AND Vicki (lets not forget how she unnecessarily disrespected her earlier on in the show by speaking over her). An altercation was bound to happen, yes Ashleyne perhaps should not have threw the champagne, but lets put things into perspective here, throwing champagne is pretty tame compared to what Farrah apparently did.

Both in the wrong, but Farrah had it coming, you can't keep provoking people and expect to keep getting away with it.

Northern Monkey
23-09-2015, 09:38 AM
Well that was disappointing!We did'nt see anything!!WTF?

camertone
23-09-2015, 09:49 AM
aislene should be banned indefinitely from bbots.

camertone
23-09-2015, 09:55 AM
aislene threw a glass at farrah, and then farrah defended herself with chair. aislene planned it beforehand, so it was aislene's fault 100%.

Cherie
23-09-2015, 09:59 AM
aislene threw a glass at farrah, and then farrah defended herself with chair. aislene planned it beforehand, so it was aislene's fault 100%.

:clap1:

MrWong
23-09-2015, 10:03 AM
I love how Aisleynes premeditated assault is twisted into Farrah provoked it :facepalm:

poppsywoppsy
23-09-2015, 10:08 AM
What gets me is that the BB producers will be acting all proper and precious eg (out of our control) when they facilitated this happening all along.

Aislene will be banned and Farrah will fly back to America smelling of roses.

If Vickie was hurt due to either Aislene or Farrah should be prosecuted as well as Channel 5
And not let them wriggle out of it.

To be honest, it has been on the cards all through this series.

chuff me dizzy
23-09-2015, 10:08 AM
I love how Aisleynes premeditated assault is twisted into Farrah provoked it :facepalm:

6 of 1 ,half a dozen of the other ,both vile creatures

rubymoo
23-09-2015, 10:11 AM
6 of 1 ,half a dozen of the other ,both vile creatures

:clap1:

Miranda123
23-09-2015, 10:29 AM
What do you expect when you put Farrah and Jenna together. They can't take criticism and have no class.

They are not the first housemates that have come out of the BB house and been criticized. Everyone else can handle it. You want to be a bitch, own it.

looked to me like Farrah was handling it fine

It was the gob****e tramp that couldnt handle it and lost her rag

Hope Farrah sues the skanky bint and Ch5

Miranda123
23-09-2015, 10:30 AM
I love how Aisleynes premeditated assault is twisted into Farrah provoked it :facepalm:

I know Mr Wong, but you know even filthy skanks are liked on here, Charley, Hazel, Aisleyne etc, even skanks have supporters on here

Denver
23-09-2015, 10:33 AM
If i was Vicki id press charges against the one who hit me

MrWong
23-09-2015, 10:33 AM
6 of 1 ,half a dozen of the other ,both vile creatures

My point was that Farah didn't provoke the situation.

Stevep
23-09-2015, 10:34 AM
I love how Aisleynes premeditated assault is twisted into Farrah provoked it :facepalm:

No you're right, Farrah sat there all sweet and innocent. I mean, cutting someone off by calling them a 'hag' each time they speak is not provoking behaviour at all, is it?

It can be argued that what Aisleyne did was wrong, but what i'm getting at is if you constantly jab and poke each person you come across, you are eventually going to get your comeuppance at some point.

Farrah antagonises people, i mean come on, Eamonn said it from day one before she even went into the house, she needlessly blanked Emma at the launch interview, she pissed the majority of the house off, and you'd have thought once she was out the house she'd back off a bit but no, each and every single bots panelist that has sat by her has also been infuriated by her. She was bound to come across someone eventually that would react. Both were wrong, but Farrah had it coming, you cannot keep treating people like dog **** and keep expecting to get away with it.

I find it insane that people can keep defending her by claiming she's just being 'real'.

Denver
23-09-2015, 10:36 AM
I hate Faarah but i dont get how anyone can blame her for what that scumbag did?

arista
23-09-2015, 10:44 AM
aislene threw a glass at farrah, and then farrah defended herself with chair. aislene planned it beforehand, so it was aislene's fault 100%.


no it was Janice , in the middle
that used the Chair

Cherie
23-09-2015, 10:48 AM
I love how Aisleynes premeditated assault is twisted into Farrah provoked it :facepalm:


Of course she did calling someone a hag deserves a good kicking :umm2:

MrWong
23-09-2015, 10:49 AM
No you're right, Farrah sat there all sweet and innocent. I mean, cutting someone off by calling them a 'hag' each time they speak is not provoking behaviour at all, is it?

It can be argued that what Aisleyne did was wrong, but what i'm getting at is if you constantly jab and poke each person you come across, you are eventually going to get your comeuppance at some point.

Farrah antagonises people, i mean come on, Eamonn said it from day one before she even went into the house, she needlessly blanked Emma at the launch interview, she pissed the majority of the house off, and you'd have thought once she was out the house she'd back off a bit but no, each and every single bots panelist that has sat by her has also been infuriated by her. She was bound to come across someone eventually that would react. Both were wrong, but Farrah had it coming, you cannot keep treating people like dog **** and keep expecting to get away with it.

I find it insane that people can keep defending her by claiming she's just being 'real'.

All I said was that Ais provoked the situation. Which she did.

Unless you can quote where I suggested that Farrah is sweet and innocent, Or defended her actions. Then I'm not sure why you replied in that way.

nonstop
23-09-2015, 10:49 AM
Yas. Queen Aislynee slaming dat hoe.

MrWong
23-09-2015, 10:50 AM
Of course she did calling someone a hag deserves a good kicking :umm2:

I love that put down. It certainly touched a nerve with Ais :D

Cherie
23-09-2015, 10:50 AM
No you're right, Farrah sat there all sweet and innocent. I mean, cutting someone off by calling them a 'hag' each time they speak is not provoking behaviour at all, is it?

It can be argued that what Aisleyne did was wrong, but what i'm getting at is if you constantly jab and poke each person you come across, you are eventually going to get your comeuppance at some point.

Farrah antagonises people, i mean come on, Eamonn said it from day one before she even went into the house, she needlessly blanked Emma at the launch interview, she pissed the majority of the house off, and you'd have thought once she was out the house she'd back off a bit but no, each and every single bots panelist that has sat by her has also been infuriated by her. She was bound to come across someone eventually that would react. Both were wrong, but Farrah had it coming, you cannot keep treating people like dog **** and keep expecting to get away with it.

I find it insane that people can keep defending her by claiming she's just being 'real'.


Farrah had it coming from Ashleyne? Because she was mean on a TV show that Ashleyne can't seem to let go of. Oh right

Stevep
23-09-2015, 10:51 AM
Farrah had it coming from Ashleyne? Because she was mean on a TV show that Ashleyne can't seem to let go of. Oh right

That's not what i said at all, but by all means, carry on.

bots
23-09-2015, 10:54 AM
That's not what i said at all, but by all means, carry on.

You are making Farrah guilty based on her behaviour in the house, which is not how it works.

Farrah was consistently provoked last night on that show by a woman who publicly stated exactly what she was going to do before going on the show

Stevep
23-09-2015, 10:55 AM
All I said was that Ais provoked the situation. Which she did.

Unless you can quote where I suggested that Farrah is sweet and innocent, Or defended her actions. Then I'm not sure why you replied in that way.

Your post insinuates that Farrah was the innocent party in all this, which she wasn't.

Beso
23-09-2015, 10:57 AM
ashaleeeeeeen does what the viewers have been wanting for 3 weeks. i think im in luuurve.

MrWong
23-09-2015, 10:57 AM
Your post insinuates that Farrah was the innocent party in all this, which she wasn't.

No it doesn't.

My post stated who provoked the situation.

Ais threatened to throw a drink on Farrah 4 days ago.

chuff me dizzy
23-09-2015, 10:59 AM
You are making Farrah guilty based on her behaviour in the house, which is not how it works.

Farrah was consistently provoked last night on that show by a woman who publicly stated exactly what she was going to do before going on the show

Farrah was no innocent last night, all the time the other cheap skank was talking she was talking over her

Cherie
23-09-2015, 11:00 AM
You are making Farrah guilty based on her behaviour in the house, which is not how it works.

Farrah was consistently provoked last night on that show by a woman who publicly stated exactly what she was going to do before going on the show

Exactly, how Farrah behaved in the house is no excuse to attack her physically or verbally, The producers got more than they bargained for, as it seems they want to humiliate Farrah and she will not lie down for them. Once a housemate exits the house they should be treated with a level of professionalism and non bias by the show, by all means the panel can have an opinion but at least put some support in as well so there is a balance.

bots
23-09-2015, 11:03 AM
Farrah was no innocent last night, all the time the other cheap skank was talking she was talking over her

i wouldn't have put up with the crap Ash was coming out with without retorting either, which is what Farrah did. I can't stand Farrah, but she has never resorted to physical violence (at least in the last 3 weeks) Ash did escalate the situation and it was premeditated.

Stevep
23-09-2015, 11:03 AM
You are making Farrah guilty based on her behaviour in the house, which is not how it works.

Farrah was consistently provoked last night on that show by a woman who publicly stated exactly what she was going to do before going on the show

They are both guilty, what i'm saying is that it's not surprising that at some stage someone would react to Farrah's insolence. She antagonised people before entering, during and after she left the house. If you keep provoking people you will get burnt at some stage.

And no, i don't agree that Ashlene provoked the situation, she reacted to being called a hag each time she opened her mouth, Whether she planned to toss her drink at Farrah doesn't necessarily come into it, she was still provoked to do so. If she tossed the drink out the blue that would have been rather daft.

bots
23-09-2015, 11:04 AM
They are both guilty, what i'm saying is that it's not surprising that at some stage someone would react to Farrah's insolence. She antagonised people before entering, during and after she left the house. If you keep provoking people you will get burnt at some stage.

And no, i don't agree that Ashlene provoked the situation, she reacted to being called a hag each time she opened her mouth, Whether she planned to toss her drink at Farrah doesn't necessarily come into it, she was still provoked to do so. If she tossed the drink out the blue that would have been rather daft.

Sorry, but that's just bs

arista
23-09-2015, 11:05 AM
Yas. Queen Aislynee slaming dat hoe.



yes Up for a Fight


The Minx

Stevep
23-09-2015, 11:08 AM
Sorry, but that's just bs

If i constantly called you a hag or something of a similar nature each time you spoke, would you not react? Not necessarily on the same level as Ashlene but would you not react to some degree? If yes, why? Provocation?

Amy Jade
23-09-2015, 11:08 AM
Rylan is going to talk about it today on This Morning in 7 minutes, so glad I'm off college

arista
23-09-2015, 11:12 AM
Rylan to talk Live on ITV this morning
Showbiz News
after the ads


He said he will mention his Late Night last night

arista
23-09-2015, 11:13 AM
Rylan is going to talk about it today on This Morning in 7 minutes, so glad I'm off college


I hope he does it first

Amy Jade
23-09-2015, 11:14 AM
If i constantly called you a hag or something similar each time you spoke, would you not react? Not necessarily on the same level as Ashlene but would you not react to some degree? If yes, why? Provoked possibly?

Let's put that into contexts shall we?

Farrah went on the show which is in her contract, Aisleyne was a guest so could have refused but went on last night when she had threatened to attack Farrah.

Once the show started it was Aisleyne who told Farrah to **** off home and that nobody liked her, Farrah said she felt she defended herself in the house and pointed out she was paid to enter and Aisleyne was in civilian BB.

Later Rylan asked Farrah's opinion on James and Farrah was being positive towards James and saying he was handling himself well when Aisleyne interrupted and started shouting at Farrah - Farrah responded by telling her to shut up and called her a hag and you believe that is a good excuse for Aisleyne to become violent?

arista
23-09-2015, 11:16 AM
"Aisleyne to become violent? "

Yes she is a Tough Trouble Minx

Amy Jade
23-09-2015, 11:18 AM
"Aisleyne to become violent? "

Yes she is a Tough Trouble Minx
More like a skanky trouble maker

arista
23-09-2015, 11:18 AM
Rylan Live now ITV1


He says sorry for cutting his show

arista
23-09-2015, 11:20 AM
showing the Hag Clip from Ch5


Well done ITV1


He says good there was Delay
it was not live


Police called.



Thats it now
Live Corrie

Amy Jade
23-09-2015, 11:22 AM
I hope the police know Aisleyne threatened to attack Farrah 4 days earlier.

arista
23-09-2015, 11:24 AM
I hope the police know Aisleyne threatened to attack Farrah 4 days earlier.


Well Rylan says its a legal matter
I assume the Local Police will attack the Americans?

Chuckyegg
23-09-2015, 11:25 AM
It was filmed earlier but they showed it (with plenty of time to edit) up to and including the point where Ash picked up a glass which is interesting.

Jordan.
23-09-2015, 11:25 AM
I hope no action is taken against Farrah, she reacted out of anger and embarrassment. Aisleyne is a tramp that couldn't wait to attack Farrah.

arista
23-09-2015, 11:26 AM
It was filmed earlier but they showed it (with plenty of time to edit) up to and including the point where Ash picked up a glass which is interesting.




Yes you can get Plastic Glass
in that exact shape - from Poundland

arista
23-09-2015, 11:27 AM
I hope no action is taken against Farrah, she reacted out of anger and embarrassment. Aisleyne is a tramp that couldn't wait to attack Farrah.


well its Janice who used the Chair as a Fast Weapon

Braden
23-09-2015, 11:27 AM
I've only watched a few clips, but Aisleyne came across terribly last night. She really had no decorum whatsoever, which is upsetting because she truly was(still kind of is) my favourite BB contestant ever.

Now, I'm going to contradict myself, but I would have payed money to watch Janice lob a chair across the studio :joker:

sungrass
23-09-2015, 11:28 AM
Any one in the audience wont be allowed to say anything because its a police matter and they would be prosecuted - if this goes to court it would be manipulating evidence or something.

Beetlejuice
23-09-2015, 11:29 AM
Rylan Live now ITV1


He says sorry for cutting his show

I'd jump for joy if the show was cut altogether.

arista
23-09-2015, 11:30 AM
I've only watched a few clips, but Aisleyne came across terribly last night. She really had no decorum whatsoever, which is upsetting because she truly was(still kind of is) my favourite BB contestant ever.

Now, I'm going to contradict myself, but I would have payed money to watch Janice lob a chair across the studio :joker:

But it hit the wrong person

arista
23-09-2015, 11:31 AM
I'd jump for joy if the show was cut altogether.


No because I fast Forward him to the panel
and Live Clips

Braden
23-09-2015, 11:31 AM
Did the chair actually hit anyone though, arista?

Beetlejuice
23-09-2015, 11:34 AM
I've only watched a few clips, but Aisleyne came across terribly last night. She really had no decorum whatsoever, which is upsetting because she truly was(still kind of is) my favourite BB contestant ever.

I've honestly never understood the support for Aisleyne. I know the usual leftie luvvies got behind her because she was a white girl who was "multicultural" and a lot of people who couldn't stand Nikki got behind her, and maybe a few others felt sorry for her because the crowd kept chanting to get her out, but what did she actually do to deserve any support? Her display when she evicted Jonathan was so over the top it cried of attention seeking, then the way she fell to her knees over Imogen being evicted. A scene she seems to have repeated when her "friend" Amy Winehouse died for the press to capture with their cameras. Not to forget that she was kicked out of the trial run for BB6 for aggressive behaviour, even before she appeared on BB7.

There is something sad and desperate about this stupid woman.

Braden
23-09-2015, 11:41 AM
I want to say that Ais is an enigma-type character, but I don't think she is. She can be raw & real, but suddenly it's not translating well anymore. She's not as endearing with it.

The way she came in to BB7 was quite different to the way she left, and her journey in general was really, really entertaining to watch. I don't think I've ever got behind a housemate as much as I did with Aisleyne. I remember being, like, 9 years old, and making posters with Aisleyne's face and number to win :joker:

DemolitionRed
23-09-2015, 11:47 AM
Did the chair actually hit anyone though, arista?

Not sure if it was the chair or the glass but Vicki was injured and rushed to hospital. She later tweeted that she's home but hurt.

sampvt
23-09-2015, 11:53 AM
According to my sources, Ash threw THE CONTENTS of her glass at Farrah, Farrah threw something back but nobody knows what it was, maybe her glass but Janice lifted a chair to protect herself and Vicky got caught in the crossfire of whatever was thrown.

She was taken to hospital as a precautionary thing but no blood was drawn and no bones broken. Not even bruising. BB told everyone not to go on social media or they were finished with the show and maybe they would be implicated in future litigation.

BB as usual are hamming it up so people look in tonight but it was all just handbags and insults which didn't amount to much more than screaming. Janice legged it as did Jenna and security ushered both Ash and Farrah out of the studio. That's about it folks but Ash will now certainly get a higher profile bitch job out of this and Farrah got the coverage she wanted, even at the expense of a glass of cheap wine on her arm.

BB set it up knowing what was going to happen and if you look at the beginning of the show, Ash had a nearly empty glass, so someone topped it up for her, draw your own conclusions why, because everyone knew what she was planning.

Braden
23-09-2015, 11:54 AM
I heard that she was hit by the shards of Farrah's glass.

I could be wrong though.

TiBB Frontpage Article
23-09-2015, 11:57 AM
Josy has posted a new TiBB frontpage article.

The Big Brother spin off show was last night pulled off air for a short while after an incident which involved Aisleyne Horgan-Wallace, Farrah Abraham and latest evictee Janice Dickinson as well as the other panel members Vicki Michelle and last nights first evictee Jenna Jameson .

Before the show.....

Excerpt of article quoted above. Read full article here - http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/celebritybigbrother2015-cbb16/news-289180/bots-taken-off-air-after-incident.html

arista
23-09-2015, 11:59 AM
"something sad and desperate about this stupid woman. "

Well she is in the news
Gangster Lady Bitch

Beetlejuice
23-09-2015, 12:00 PM
I want to say that Ais is an enigma-type character, but I don't think she is. She can be raw & real, but suddenly it's not translating well anymore. She's not as endearing with it.

What "keepin' it real" seems to mean is letting it all hang out in the most aggressive, self destructive and obnoxious manner conceivable. There's nothing worthy of celebration about it.

arista
23-09-2015, 12:01 PM
Josy has posted a new TiBB frontpage article.



Excerpt of article quoted above. Read full article here - http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/celebritybigbrother2015-cbb16/news-289180/bots-taken-off-air-after-incident.html


"Aisleyne threw water at Farrah"


No it was yellow - A wine drink

MrWong
23-09-2015, 12:13 PM
They are both guilty, what i'm saying is that it's not surprising that at some stage someone would react to Farrah's insolence. She antagonised people before entering, during and after she left the house. If you keep provoking people you will get burnt at some stage.

And no, i don't agree that Ashlene provoked the situation, she reacted to being called a hag each time she opened her mouth, Whether she planned to toss her drink at Farrah doesn't necessarily come into it, she was still provoked to do so. If she tossed the drink out the blue that would have been rather daft.

When did Farrah provoke Ais into threatening to throw a drink over her?

Jordan.
23-09-2015, 12:19 PM
She was pressed after the Farrah/Nicola argument

RichardG
23-09-2015, 12:29 PM
I don't know why Aisleyne took such great offence to being called a hag and responded in the way she did when she had been equally if not more insulting earlier in the episode. From memory it was her who started the bickering between the two of them as well. Farrah was not justified in throwing a glass but frankly I don't know what Aisleyne was expecting when she chucked her drink over her, we all know she has a bit of a temper on her. I can only assume she wanted/expected a fight??

arista
23-09-2015, 12:32 PM
Rylan is at fault
not running over there
like when Nicola went potty mouth

Suze
23-09-2015, 12:40 PM
I don't know why Aisleyne took such great offence to being called a hag and responded in the way she did when she had been equally if not more insulting earlier in the episode. From memory it was her who started the bickering between the two of them as well. Farrah was not justified in throwing a glass but frankly I don't know what Aisleyne was expecting when she chucked her drink over her, we all know she has a bit of a temper on her. I can only assume she wanted/expected a fight??

Aisleyne is starting to look hagged lately as usually comes with age, so maybe truth hurts, and it hit home for her. I expect she did want things to kick off though and just needed any excuse for it to do so, not caring about the consequences or if anyone got caught in the crossfire.

Angelika
23-09-2015, 12:47 PM
"something sad and desperate about this stupid woman. "

...............and Big Brother as a show.

EspeonBB
23-09-2015, 12:49 PM
This just sounds like a huge mess. I love Aisleyne but she's clearly in the wrong here.

Lets just hope the footage leaks

Braden
23-09-2015, 01:20 PM
What "keepin' it real" seems to mean is letting it all hang out in the most aggressive, self destructive and obnoxious manner conceivable. There's nothing worthy of celebration about it.

Well, I definitely didn't say "keepin' it real" :joker:

I personally found Aisleyne's journey authentic, and she was such a good housemate because she let the experience change her in a way she didn't think it would. And it was great to watch.

Not really anything to do with being aggressive or obnoxious. Shame that isn't really the case with her nowadays.

just thinkin
23-09-2015, 01:29 PM
they really scrape the end of the barrel both with getting contestants and with the panel on BBTS - appearing on either the main show or the bbotts show does nothing for people self respect - the likes of vicki michelle and biggins and a couple of others should leave with their dignity intact and let the wannabe's ex housemates and outrageous trashy types just make idiots of themselves time and time again.

trash tv -

Braden
23-09-2015, 01:33 PM
Dr. Dance being as appropriate as ever :joker:

646676668573204480

arista
23-09-2015, 01:34 PM
"trash tv - "


but bonus clips from the house
so fast forward it,

Tonight its 11PM on 5 *

Then live feed hour at midnight 5*

arista
23-09-2015, 01:36 PM
Dr. Dance being as appropriate as ever :joker:

646676668573204480


Yes so long as they are not next to each other

arista
23-09-2015, 01:38 PM
http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/300B/production/_85699221_eb3b495a-ac7f-4a64-97df-a07a8bf7ea7d.jpg

y.winter
23-09-2015, 01:39 PM
Can I say everyone's guilty of that mess? the production, Ash, Farrah - they all provoked each other.
Ash needs to get a ban, that's for sure, as much as I hate the thought of Helen's smug face.

arista
23-09-2015, 01:39 PM
Did the chair actually hit anyone though, arista?


Yes I think Vicci


Crossfire

Lostie!
23-09-2015, 01:40 PM
Can I say everyone's guilty of that mess? the production, Ash, Farrah - they all provoked each other.
Ash needs to get a ban, that's for sure, as much as I hate the thought of Helen's smug face.

Spot on. :clap1:

arista
23-09-2015, 02:37 PM
http://www.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article6497126.ece/ALTERNATES/s338b/CBBBOTS.jpg

Headie
23-09-2015, 02:43 PM
646629280290635776

reece(:
23-09-2015, 02:45 PM
A ****ing mess.

Headie
23-09-2015, 02:45 PM
Welp Aisleyne tweeted this:

646693123293360128

Cluster B personality disorders
Someone with a cluster B personality disorder struggles to relate to others. As a result, they show patterns of behaviour most would regard as dramatic, erratic and threatening or disturbing.
The main personality disorders in this category are listed below.
Antisocial personality disorder
A person with an antisocial personality disorder sees other people as vulnerable and may intimidate or bully others without remorse. They lack concern about the consequences of their actions.
Symptoms include:
lack of concern, regret or remorse about other people's distress
irresponsibility and disregard for normal social behaviour
difficulty in sustaining long-term relationships
little ability to tolerate frustration and to control their anger
lack of guilt, or not learning from their mistakes
blaming others for problems in their lives
The National Institute for Health and Care Excellence (NICE) has published guidelines on how people with antisocial personality disorders should be treated. For more information, see NICE: antisocial personality disorder (PDF, 250kb).
Borderline personality disorder
A person with borderline personality disorder is emotionally unstable, has impulses to self-harm, and has very intense and unstable relationships with others.
Read more about borderline personality disorder.
Histrionic personality disorder
A person with histrionic personality disorder is anxious about being ignored. As a result, they feel a compulsion (overwhelming urge) to be noticed and the centre of everyone’s attention. Features include:
displaying excessive emotion, yet appearing to lack real emotional sincerity
dressing provocatively and engaging in inappropriate flirting or sexually seductive behaviour
moving quickly from one emotional state to another
being self-centred and caring little about other people
constantly seeking reassurance and approval from other people
Symptoms and signs may co-exist with borderline and narcissistic personality disorders.
Narcissistic personality disorder
A person with narcissistic personality disorder swings between seeing themselves as special and fearing they are worthless. They may act as if they have an inflated sense of their own importance and show an intense need for other people to look up to them.
Other symptoms include:
exaggerating their own achievements and abilities
thinking they are entitled to be treated better than other people
exploiting other people for their own personal gain
lacking empathy for other people's weaknesses
looking down on people they feel are "beneath" them, while feeling deeply envious of people they see as being "above" them

Kazanne
23-09-2015, 02:49 PM
http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/300B/production/_85699221_eb3b495a-ac7f-4a64-97df-a07a8bf7ea7d.jpg

VILE bitch

arista
23-09-2015, 02:51 PM
VILE bitch


Just do not call her a HAG

Suze
23-09-2015, 03:02 PM
I've honestly never understood the support for Aisleyne. I know the usual leftie luvvies got behind her because she was a white girl who was "multicultural" and a lot of people who couldn't stand Nikki got behind her, and maybe a few others felt sorry for her because the crowd kept chanting to get her out, but what did she actually do to deserve any support? Her display when she evicted Jonathan was so over the top it cried of attention seeking, then the way she fell to her knees over Imogen being evicted. A scene she seems to have repeated when her "friend" Amy Winehouse died for the press to capture with their cameras. Not to forget that she was kicked out of the trial run for BB6 for aggressive behaviour, even before she appeared on BB7.

There is something sad and desperate about this stupid woman.

Spot on, especially the last bit. I honestly couldn't have put it any better if I had tried to. She wasn't voted into top slot in BB7 as most Machiavellian, devious for nothing.

Meaning of Machiavellian (http://www.thesaurus.com/browse/machiavellian?s=t) dictionary links (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/machiavellian)

Stormy
23-09-2015, 03:09 PM
What "keepin' it real" seems to mean is letting it all hang out in the most aggressive, self destructive and obnoxious manner conceivable. There's nothing worthy of celebration about it.

This describes both Farrah and Aiselyne. There is no innocent party in this. You can't blame one and excuse the other.

EspeonBB
23-09-2015, 04:18 PM
Nicola Unclean

Screaming

:joker::joker::joker:

Pete.
23-09-2015, 04:25 PM
I'm watching it now oops

Moosething
23-09-2015, 04:50 PM
Is Janice okay?

Cherie
23-09-2015, 04:50 PM
Welp Aisleyne tweeted this:

646693123293360128

Is she describing herself :laugh:

poppsywoppsy
23-09-2015, 05:12 PM
No, she isn't describing herself but it is a very accurate description of Farrah.

It is textbook. Farrah needs some help.

Cherie
23-09-2015, 05:18 PM
No, she isn't describing herself but it is a very accurate description of Farrah.

It is textbook. Farrah needs some help.

Oh when did Ashleyne get her psychology degree :hehe:

Lostie!
23-09-2015, 07:43 PM
So according to Jenna

646756366405775360

646756544248463360

:shocked:

bots
23-09-2015, 07:46 PM
this is why we all need to wait and find out the real story before jumping to conclusions :laugh:

Stevep
23-09-2015, 07:46 PM
lol, bunch of nutters all of them.

Beetlejuice
23-09-2015, 07:52 PM
So according to Jenna

646756366405775360

646756544248463360

:shocked:

Never one to be upstaged... Janice.

y.winter
23-09-2015, 07:53 PM
Janice doing a BB13 Benedict?

Daniel.
23-09-2015, 07:54 PM
We need the actual footage though.

Headie
23-09-2015, 07:55 PM
They should show the footage tonight tbh on BOTS

rusticgal
23-09-2015, 07:55 PM
Never liked Aisleyne....never liked Nicola McLean....never liked Helen. Bitches to the core....all can give it but can't take it...
Farragh is vile....like Jenna resorts to name calling...but chucking wine at them is not a way to get the better of them.
Didn't Aisleyne condemn Faye for doing that???...

Jordan.
23-09-2015, 07:55 PM
Not Jenna nearly blinded by that thug

BB4fan
24-09-2015, 02:00 AM
About time Farrah got belted.

What by Aisylene...??? If Farrah had hit her with a glass it may have actually corrected her ugly face.

Rob!
24-09-2015, 03:16 AM
I'm sorry but I'm far more inclined to believe Vikki Michelle's account of events as opposed to either Jenna or Farrah. I do not believe Janice went on a rampage with a chair :laugh2:

billy123
24-09-2015, 06:28 AM
The Vicki Michelle article confirms what most people thought anyway. Farrah is a dumb violent tramp. I hope charges are pressed against her.
How anyone could defend that thing is beyond me i hope Vicki gets her sent home in disgrace.
Sounds like Janice was the one that put a stop to Farrah assaulting anybody else.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/vicki-michelle-could-been-blinded-6502906

Beso
24-09-2015, 06:42 AM
So according to Jenna

646756366405775360

646756544248463360

:shocked:

illiterate slag.

Amy Jade
24-09-2015, 06:55 AM
illiterate slag.

Surely if you are going to accuse somebody of being illiterate you'd use proper grammar to stop yourself looking silly :hehe:

Beso
24-09-2015, 07:02 AM
Surely if you are going to accuse somebody of being illiterate you'd use proper grammar to stop yourself looking silly :hehe:

2 much hassle doing caps on my tv.

bots
24-09-2015, 07:03 AM
The Vicki Michelle article confirms what most people thought anyway. Farrah is a dumb violent tramp. I hope charges are pressed against her.
How anyone could defend that thing is beyond me i hope Vicki gets her sent home in disgrace.
Sounds like Janice was the one that put a stop to Farrah assaulting anybody else.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/vicki-michelle-could-been-blinded-6502906

This is why eye witness reports need to be taken with a pinch of salt. The only thing I will believe is the police report if/when it get issued.

Everyone of those involved is reporting it from their own biased viewpoint. Clearly, the view that takes precedence is that of the injured party, but it can never be treated as 100% gospel either.

kirklancaster
24-09-2015, 07:08 AM
Just do not call her a HAG

:laugh:

Amy Jade
24-09-2015, 07:10 AM
2 much hassle doing caps on my tv.

Are you an illiterate slag too then?

Beso
24-09-2015, 07:13 AM
Are you an illiterate slag too then?



Hell no, my telly on the other hand.

Seeeing as we're doing questions, do you like it up the bum?

billy123
24-09-2015, 07:21 AM
This is why eye witness reports need to be taken with a pinch of salt. The only thing I will believe is the police report if/when it get issued.

Everyone of those involved is reporting it from their own biased viewpoint. Clearly, the view that takes precedence is that of the injured party, but it can never be treated as 100% gospel either.That is certainly true. But if the police have viewed the footage and then asked her if she wants to press charges then it would seem that what she says is correct.

kirklancaster
24-09-2015, 07:25 AM
That is certainly true. But if the police have viewed the footage and then asked her if she wants to press charges then it would seem that what she says is correct.

That's my view as well Bob. Plus, I do not think that a respected actress of her age would lie - knowing full well that everything was done on camera and in front of dozens of witnesses, because the truth WILL eventually come out.

I know who I blame.

Cherie
24-09-2015, 07:26 AM
The Vicki Michelle article confirms what most people thought anyway. Farrah is a dumb violent tramp. I hope charges are pressed against her.
How anyone could defend that thing is beyond me i hope Vicki gets her sent home in disgrace.
Sounds like Janice was the one that put a stop to Farrah assaulting anybody else.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/vicki-michelle-could-been-blinded-6502906


Well I'm just glad the Mirror gave such an unbiased view of it all...:umm2:

Cherie
24-09-2015, 07:28 AM
That's my view as well Bob. Plus, I do not think that a respected actress of her age would lie - knowing full well that everything was done on camera and in front of dozens of witnesses, because the truth WILL eventually come out.

I know who I blame.

Respected Allo Allo actress :laugh:

Cherie
24-09-2015, 07:29 AM
That is certainly true. But if the police have viewed the footage and then asked her if she wants to press charges then it would seem that what she says is correct.

Do you normally take the red tops as gospel?

kirklancaster
24-09-2015, 07:36 AM
Respected Allo Allo actress :laugh:

Pretty much Cherie - when weighed against two porn stars. And her daughter was in the audience.

kirklancaster
24-09-2015, 07:37 AM
Well I'm just glad the Mirror gave such an unbiased view of it all...:umm2:

I just read undoctored reportage of Vickie Michelle's own statement. Where was the 'Mirror bias'?

Cherie
24-09-2015, 07:41 AM
Pretty much Cherie - when weighed against two porn stars. And her daughter was in the audience.

Her daughter has said nothing, I don't consider anyone respectable who goes on a show and abuses a girl who could be her granddaughter for her actions on a TV show which encourages arguments and poor behaviour, whatever Farrah has done in her past is not the issue here.

Semtex
24-09-2015, 07:44 AM
The Vicki Michelle article confirms what most people thought anyway. Farrah is a dumb violent tramp. I hope charges are pressed against her.
How anyone could defend that thing is beyond me i hope Vicki gets her sent home in disgrace.
Sounds like Janice was the one that put a stop to Farrah assaulting anybody else.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/vicki-michelle-could-been-blinded-6502906

I concur bobnot, it appears that some people are nuttier than squirrel excrement.

Cherie
24-09-2015, 07:50 AM
I just read undoctored reportage of Vickie Michelle's own statement. Where was the 'Mirror bias'?

It reads as if this was an isolated incident, no mention of Farrah being verbally abused by the two panelists and in particular by Ashleyne for half an hour before hand and Ashleyne throwing her drink, Farrah didn't cover herself in glory but I can't honestly say why anyone can say she wasn't provoked right from the start of the show with the producers blessing

Cherie
24-09-2015, 07:52 AM
I concur bobnot, it appears that some people are nuttier than squirrel excrement.

That's added enormously to the debate thanks

Kazanne
24-09-2015, 07:57 AM
So according to Jenna

646756366405775360

646756544248463360

:shocked:

Not sure I would believe jenna,she is bound to stick up for Farrah and diss janice

jaxie
24-09-2015, 08:23 AM
It reads as if this was an isolated incident, no mention of Farrah being verbally abused by the two panelists and in particular by Ashleyne for half an hour before hand and Ashleyne throwing her drink, Farrah didn't cover herself in glory but I can't honestly say why anyone can say she wasn't provoked right from the start of the show with the producers blessing

Provoked to a screaming match perhaps but not to violence surely. Who picks up 2 glasses and lobs them?

jaxie
24-09-2015, 08:28 AM
Not sure I would believe jenna,she is bound to stick up for Farrah and diss janice

On my observation of Jenna in the house I wouldn't believe a word she says anyway. She seems to have difficulty seeing any point of view but her own and appears to go through life on a defensive stance seeing mostly negatives in others.

Cherie
24-09-2015, 08:29 AM
Provoked to a screaming match perhaps but not to violence surely. Who picks up 2 glasses and lobs them?

Someone who has just been verbally abused for half and hour and then had a drink thrown at them, I know I would lash out, I might not be proud of it but in the heat of the moment I would protect myself, there are alot of Gail's who would sit crying into their soup it seems. :laugh:

jaxie
24-09-2015, 08:31 AM
Someone who has just been verbally abused for half and hour and then had a drink thrown at them, I know I would lash out, I might not be proud of it but in the heat of the moment I would protect myself, there are alot of Gail's who would sit crying into their soup it seems. :laugh:

She could just have thrown a drink back or slapped someone, throwing glass is kind of dangerous.

bots
24-09-2015, 08:32 AM
Provoked to a screaming match perhaps but not to violence surely. Who picks up 2 glasses and lobs them?

Thing is, everyone knows that Farrah is not in control of her temper. If we go to the zoo and poke a lion, do we scold the lion and suggest that a swipe of its paw would be more appropriate than its biting the pokers head off. Aislene knew exactly what she was doing, and was hoping Farrah would respond in the worst possible way. That's why she did it. Does it excuse Farrah for throwing glasses if thats what she did indeed do, no of course not, but Aislenes intentions were premeditated and corrupt in the first place.

Cherie
24-09-2015, 08:35 AM
She could just have thrown a drink back or slapped someone, throwing glass is kind of dangerous.

I know in the heat of the moment these things can happen I think if she slapped her there would be even more outrage :laugh:

Pete.
21-04-2016, 05:43 PM
Iconic RTV moment

EspeonBB
21-04-2016, 06:30 PM
Where's the footage

Lostie!
22-04-2016, 12:58 PM
Where's the footage

Some of it was leaked a while back.

http://i.imgur.com/dDnHNqL.gif

VanessaFeltz.
01-09-2018, 08:35 AM
i would honestly pay real money for the tapes