Shoreditch Cereal Killer Cafe attacked by anti-gentrification protesters

[arista]

Why is all this going on
is it all Publicity deal.?


http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/sep/27/shoreditch-cereal-cafe-targeted-by-anti-gentrification-protesters?CMP=fb_gu


[Angry mob of activists threw paint and cereal at east London cereal cafe in ‘terrifying attack’ on customers, owners say]

http://thestyleline.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/ceralkillercafe13-880x586.jpg

[Livia]

I don't agree with violent protest but I do see their point. The working class have been, and are still being, priced out of London. Country people moan that their children can't afford to buy a house in their village because of house prices... try being a first time buyer in London; in part of east London a Victoria two-up, two-down will cost you about half a million. People's whole identity, heritage, culture has been uprooted and discarded in the last few decades so I can see why people are angry.

[arista]

Yes but this Cereal Cafe is Special
selection best in the World

[Livia]

Yes but this Cereal Cafe is Special
selection best in the World

Oh well, that's okay then. If only those people priced out of their homes knew they were making way for the biggest selection of cereals sold by a couple of precious hipster clones, that would have made it so much easier to accept.

[Kizzy]

Not sure how this small business is at fault here though, why are they seen as an acceptable target and not council offices or associated organisations?

[Will.]

I don't agree with violent protest but I do see their point. The working class have been, and are still being, priced out of London. Country people moan that their children can't afford to buy a house in their village because of house prices... try being a first time buyer in London; in part of east London a Victoria two-up, two-down will cost you about half a million. People's whole identity, heritage, culture has been uprooted and discarded in the last few decades so I can see why people are angry.

I agree, London is way too expensive.

To get a family house (2 reception rooms, 3 double bedrooms, a workable size kitchen and a decent garden) in a nice area you have to have minimal 650k.

In Winchmore Hill were I live all the typical semi detached houses are in the region of 700-800k.

Ridiculous, will the next generation ever be able to afford a house?

I guess the best option is to try and save and live at home and help parents pay the bills etc.

On a nicer note I really want to go here, it's only 20 mins away.

[arista]

Yes many Rich China Owners keep the London
House Prices Higher

You can not stop Market Forces

[Ammi]

..I agree with Liv in that I see their point..but not how they've made or expressed it..Shoreditch I think was very much a 'working class' area and over several years has had so much gentrification ...ok, sell their selection of best in the world cereals for £3.20 a bowl if they want to..which obviously is more than some families spend on a week's supply...but to balance that out..and the same with other 'trendy' businesses in the area/not just them...also do something substantial for the homeless and low income local residents as well....

[Tom4784]

£3.20 for a bowl of cereal? :worry: I do hope they go out of business with extortionate prices like that.

I agree that gentrification is a massive problem in London but rioting like that does nothing for the cause.

[arista]

£3.20 for a bowl of cereal? :worry: I do hope they go out of business with extortionate prices like that.

I agree that gentrification is a massive problem in London but rioting like that does nothing for the cause.



No thats a special place
nothing like it in the world

[Tom4784]

No thats a special place
nothing like it in the world

I can see why.

[user104658]

I don't really understand why people are focusing on the £3.20 a bowl aspect. Go into any little cafe and a sandwich and cup of coffee will cost you at least £7 when you could make the same at home for pennies. We went out for dinner two nights ago and it cost £70 - I could have made the same food at home for less than £10...

Not that I personally would pay that for a bowl of cereal but I really don't think the inflated cost of eating out is the point, that's pretty standard.

Property prices in London are, obviously, a huge problem but... :shrug:... That's the effect of a free market capitalist economy, and people seem to be all for it in other circumstances. Not here for Tories suddenly getting all socialist - but only when it comes specifically to London house prices :joker:.

[Livia]

I don't really understand why people are focusing on the £3.20 a bowl aspect. Go into any little cafe and a sandwich and cup of coffee will cost you at least £7 when you could make the same at home for pennies. We went out for dinner two nights ago and it cost £70 - I could have made the same food at home for less than £10...

Not that I personally would pay that for a bowl of cereal but I really don't think the inflated cost of eating out is the point, that's pretty standard.

Property prices in London are, obviously, a huge problem but... :shrug:... That's the effect of a free market capitalist economy, and people seem to be all for it in other circumstances. Not here for Tories suddenly getting all socialist - but only when it comes specifically to London house prices :joker:.

Quite a few of the gentrified areas are Labour boroughs: Newham, Tower Hamlets, Hackney... The gentrification has been going on for a while now, and positively prospered through a Labour government.

[Cherie]

£3.20 for a bowl of cereal? :worry: I do hope they go out of business with extortionate prices like that.

I agree that gentrification is a massive problem in London but rioting like that does nothing for the cause.

It's down to demand and if it's there they will stay in business, , no different to people spending 4 quid on a fancy coffee every morning on the way to work, Starbucks seem to have done okay out of people paying over the odds for a coffee. Maybe they should sit on their arse and claim bennies that way no one would abuse them...oh wait..

[DemolitionRed]

Brick Lane is the one place in the east end where you can still buy a Jewish stye bagel with a generous choice of filling for around £1, even at 4am in the morning. :dance:

I'm going to go for a wander down to Beigel Bake and have a nosey.

[JoshBB]

Yes many Rich China Owners keep the London
House Prices Higher

You can not stop Market Forces

Yes you can.

Rent Caps would be a start and need to be implemented asap.

[Will.]

£3.20 is ok as there selling rare cereals which cost a lot to buy and ship in.

Maybe closer to £2 would be more suitable.

[DemolitionRed]

I popped in but received a frosty reception!

[user104658]

Quite a few of the gentrified areas are Labour boroughs: Newham, Tower Hamlets, Hackney... The gentrification has been going on for a while now, and positively prospered through a Labour government.

Yes, New Labour was also full of Tories... :hehe:

My point is that people who are GENERALLY all for "free range" thatcherite capitalism (i.e. letting the market / labour force / prices etc. dictate themselves by supply and demand) are now suddenly against the "gentrification" of London, which is just a fancy way of saying that they are against the idea of "normal people" being priced out of London property ownership. Presumably they then want either some control brought over pricing on those properties in those areas, or they would have "normal people" subsidised in living there. Very clear socialism.

All I'm saying is that people can't be all "Tory Tory Tory yay! Strivers yay! Skivers boo! Austerity boner!" on 99% of issues and then complain when exactly the same elitism affects certain other things :shrug:. As a famous 16th century poet said; "If you tolerate this, then your children will be next"...

[user104658]

I popped in but received a frosty reception!

Ooooh are we doing puns again?

I found the whole thing a bit corny, personally. And the two guys are really flakey.

[Livia]

Yes, New Labour was also full of Tories... :hehe:

My point is that people who are GENERALLY all for "free range" thatcherite capitalism (i.e. letting the market / labour force / prices etc. dictate themselves by supply and demand) are now suddenly against the "gentrification" of London, which is just a fancy way of saying that they are against the idea of "normal people" being priced out of London property ownership. Presumably they then want either some control brought over pricing on those properties in those areas, or they would have "normal people" subsidised in living there. Very clear socialism.

All I'm saying is that people can't be all "Tory Tory Tory yay! Strivers yay! Skivers boo! Austerity boner!" on 99% of issues and then complain when exactly the same elitism affects certain other things :shrug:. As a famous 16th century poet said; "If you tolerate this, then your children will be next"...

Even if I was all "Tory Tory Tory yay! Strivers yay! Skivers boo! Austerity boner!" even then I probably still wouldn't agree.

[arista]

£3.20 is ok as there selling rare cereals which cost a lot to buy and ship in.

Maybe closer to £2 would be more suitable.


If you make it £2
they would close down - Will, never run a Company


If Anything it will go up soon.
No other place gets "Exclusive" USA Cereals.

[DemolitionRed]

Ooooh are we doing puns again?

I found the whole thing a bit corny, personally. And the two guys are really flakey.

:laugh:

Well I was wondering if the culprits were cereal offenders and if caught, will they get porridge?!

[user104658]

[emoji23]

Well I was wondering if the culprits were cereal offenders and if caught, will they get porridge?!
They look like the type who are lucky charms, the culprits will probably end up getting shreddied and these two will come out of the whole thing golden grahams.

[GiRTh]

The reason why it cost £3.20 for a bowl of ceral is cuz many of their cereals are imported. They are a business so they need to make money so £3.20 is a price by which they are making money. I think far too many people focuis on the price like its the biggest issue. Go to any store that stocks rare or imported items and you will find youself paying muich more than usual.

I also dont see why this shop is a target. Are all small business in this area treated like this?

[user104658]

The reason why it cost £3.20 for a bowl of ceral is cuz many of their cereals are imported. They are a business so they need to make money so £3.20 is a price by which they are making money. I think far too many people focuis on the price like its the biggest issue. Go to any store that stocks rare or imported items and you will find youself paying muich more than usual.

I also dont see why this shop is a target. Are all small business in this area treated like this?

Exactly, stores with imported snacks from the US have some crazy prices - cans of soft drinks that you can't get in the UK for £2.50 - £3 a can, etc... it's pretty standard.

When I was in Portugal last year, the convenience store had cans of Irn Bru for 3 euros each. And they were in the Alcohol section :nono: :hehe:

[Shaun]

If you go to a cafe to have a bowl of cereal you probably need help crossing the road.

[user104658]

If you go to a cafe to have a bowl of cereal you probably need help crossing the road.

I'm assuming they also sell coffee and stuff? If so I'd probably go! It's a bit of a novelty I guess. Sometimes I don't fancy much for breakfast but I always (...always...) need more coffee, and a bowl of Lucky Charms might go down a treat.

[MTVN]

Agree that its a very strange target. Two blokes running their own small cafe is not exactly the epitome of capitalist oppression

[user104658]

Agree that its a very strange target. Two blokes running their own small cafe is not exactly the epitome of capitalist oppression

Perhaps it was just an excuse, and they were in fact the victim of a hate crime committed by pognophobes.

[GiRTh]

Exactly, stores with imported snacks from the US have some crazy prices - cans of soft drinks that you can't get in the UK for £2.50 - £3 a can, etc... it's pretty standard.

When I was in Portugal last year, the convenience store had cans of Irn Bru for 3 euros each. And they were in the Alcohol section :nono: :hehe:I once paid nine pounds for a English Breakfast at a Hotel next to Glasgow airport. I think it was a Holiday Inn, not sure but it was definitely a franchise Hotels.. Thats much more of a rip off than his shop yet I doubt anyone will be attacking that Hotel.

[Liam-]

They're mad at the idea of gentrification so they target a couple of hipsters selling cereal?

[T*]

what silly *****

[arista]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/09/27/18/article-3250896-2CD55EF700000578-546_964x461.jpg

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

"anti-gentrification protesters" nah thugs.

Edit: Privileged thugs.

[Kizzy]

Nobody targeting the large coffee chains for charging £4 for coffee it would cost pennies to make at home. Ridic.

[DemolitionRed]

They look like the type who are lucky charms, the culprits will probably end up getting shreddied and these two will come out of the whole thing golden grahams.

:joker:

[Cherie]

I popped in but received a frosty reception!

:laugh: there greatttt

[user104658]

Nobody targeting the large coffee chains for charging £4 for coffee it would cost pennies to make at home. Ridic.
True, if you have your own grinder and coffee machine you can actually buy Starbucks beans, at Starbucks, that will make 50+ large coffees and the bag costs the same as two coffees from Starbucks... Makes it seem a bit crazy. (Also my coffee is loads better than their extra special "baristas" make. Naturally.) But I suppose you're paying for convenience, that's sorry of the point, and again, isn't that the crux of capitalism? If people weren't willing to pay £3 for a bowl of cereal then they wouldn't be in business... But they are :shrug:.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Hundreds of protesters attacked a cereal cafe in east London on Saturday night, daubing the word “scum” on the shop window and setting fire to an effigy of a police officer.

Riot police were called in to defend the Cereal Killer Cafe in Shoreditch after it was targeted by a large crowd of anti-gentrification activists carrying pigs’ heads and torches.

The owners of the cafe, which has been seen by some as a symbol of inequality in east London, said on Sunday that the attack left customers including children “terrified for their lives”.

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http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/sep/27/shoreditch-cereal-cafe-targeted-by-anti-gentrification-protesters


A fair or an easy target?

[Niamh.]

I don't get why they were targeted?

[Ammi]

..no I don't get why specifically them either, maybe because they're fairly new in opening and they got national media coverage as it's a gimmicky/different type eating place...

[Ammi]

..oh this is a different thread to the one Arista posted yesterday..?..

[kirklancaster]

One of the idiots heard another of the idiots say: "I'm starving, I could murder a bowl of cornflakes" and another sensless riot was born.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I don't get why they were targeted?


Children are starving in the east end and they are charging 4.50 for a bowl of cereal

[Crimson Dynamo]

..oh this is a different thread to the one Arista posted yesterday..?..

Yes his one was about Killer Cereal shop but my one is about Cereal Killers shop



Seriously Ammi, are you paying attention here or what?

:idc:

[Ammi]

Yes his one was about Killer Cereal shop but my one is about Cereal Killers shop



Seriously Ammi, are you paying attention here or what?

:idc:

..no, I lost my concentration for a moment there LT../apologies..I see this has a whole new angle that Arista didn't cover...sign of the times I'm afraid...

[arista]

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=289448

Can a Good mod merge LT's to mine

[arista]

Yes Near there was a Coffee place
not touched

[Crimson Dynamo]

isnt this thread the same as my new, brighter one?

:suspect:

[arista]

isnt this thread the same as my new, brighter one?

:suspect:



This is the original thread posted YESTERDAY
yours is a imposter made today

[Crimson Dynamo]

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=289448

Can a Good mod merge LT's to mine

Mods can you merge Arista's one with mine and delete all the off topic posts?

[Crimson Dynamo]

aslo i am not suggesting some mods are good and some are bad

[Crimson Dynamo]

This is the original thread posted YESTERDAY
yours is a imposter made today

jeremy vine did his lead feature on it today as its more relevant today. :nono:

[arista]

jeremy vine did his lead feature on it today as its more relevant today. :nono:


Feck me

you a sloppy today


Wake up

This thread has 2 pages
how the feck can you miss it

[Crimson Dynamo]

Feck me

you a sloppy today


Wake up

This thread has 2 pages
how the feck can you miss it

:shrug:

I never trust the search function so I looked down the debates list and could not see it for looking at it

[Niamh.]

:laugh:

[arista]

:shrug:

I never trust the search function so I looked down the debates list and could not see it for looking at it



But it was on the first page
Not hidden


You Fecked Up

[Ammi]

...:laugh:...you could have split the cereals and shared...you have sugar puffs in your thread and I'll have Weetabix in mine...and I'll swap you Rice Krispies and cornflakes and maybe pop tarts as well if I can take the Lucky Charms...

[Crimson Dynamo]

But it was on the first page
Not hidden


You Fecked Up

In reality its the fault of the mods


mock needs to make a thread about it

[arista]

:laugh:


Thank You
Good Mod
for Sorting LT

[Niamh.]

Thank You
Good Mod
for Sorting LT

You're welcome :hee:

[Niamh.]

In reality its the fault of the mods


mock needs to make a thread about it

-Infracted-

[kirklancaster]

-Infracted-

:laugh::laugh::laugh: Yeah, Niamh, Infract him.:hehe:

[arista]

On ITV1News on London
the owner said other local shops thanked them
as they now get more customers,
because of that special cereal store.


So those Punks that chucked Red Paint
over their windows are fecking dumb