View Full Version : Manchester: aged 15 boy had sex 50 times with 30 year old lady teacher assistant
arista
29-09-2015, 10:18 AM
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/09/29/03/2CB1406300000578-0-image-m-28_1443494040809.jpg
[Teaching assistant: Caroline Berriman, 30,
from Oldham, avoided a jail sentence
last week despite admitting
two counts of sexual activity with a child]
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3252949/Schoolboy-seduced-disgraced-teaching-assistant-reveals-sex-50-times-told-pregnant.html#ixzz3n7aurZOV
typical Female Peodo gets away with it
Liam-
29-09-2015, 10:19 AM
Stories like this actually make me sick.
the truth
29-09-2015, 10:20 AM
why would a woman that good looking be fiddling with children? she must be mental
Stories like this actually make me sick.
I know tell me about it. Lucky little sh*t.
the truth
29-09-2015, 10:23 AM
if it was a man hed have gone to prison for many years...totally sexist
Liam-
29-09-2015, 10:26 AM
I know tell me about it. Lucky little sh*t.
:joker: :nono:
the truth
29-09-2015, 10:27 AM
if it was a man hed have gone to prison for 5 years, as did the last male teacher who had an affair with a 15 year old
Liam-
29-09-2015, 10:27 AM
For once I agree with the truth, if the roles were reversed, a man would be going to prison, but women get nothing more than a slap on the wrist and a stern talking too, it's ridiculous.
the truth
29-09-2015, 10:32 AM
I am the truth , but a lot of people cant handle the truth
Niamh.
29-09-2015, 10:38 AM
These cases are even worse when it's a teacher or teaching assistant because they have such a duty of care towards students.
kirklancaster
29-09-2015, 10:39 AM
if it was a man hed have gone to prison for many years...totally sexist
Very true.
LukeB
29-09-2015, 10:42 AM
Looks like aisleyne
empire
30-09-2015, 02:08 AM
we live in a narcissistic pervert culture, in todays world, where women and girls are oversexualized and obsessed with there image, and because they are like that, some can't abandon their teenage girly years, and they think that they do no wrong in there own minds, too them it would not of mattered if he was 15 or 10, because people who are sexully attracted to the underage, like a type of age, and that is what is in her mind, it was lucky that they caught her, because she would of picked out another boy who would be alot younger than he is,
Mystic Mock
30-09-2015, 03:55 AM
why would a woman that good looking be fiddling with children? she must be mental
Attractive people can be paedos too.:laugh:
I'm surprised you're not using the argument of a woman getting away with something that a man wouldn't get away with.
Attractive people can be paedos too.:laugh:
I'm surprised you're not using the argument of a woman getting away with something that a man wouldn't get away with.
Look a bit further down the thread mate :laugh:
Mystic Mock
30-09-2015, 04:11 AM
Look a bit further down the thread mate :laugh:
Yeah I should've guessed that I spoke to soon.:laugh:
If only I was 15 again.:flutter::joker:
These cases are even worse when it's a teacher or teaching assistant because they have such a duty of care towards students.
I agree completely.
I also hate how the media deal with these stories too, say if it's a decent looking female they post pics of them all dressed nice with make up etc or you get headlines like 'glamourous teaching assistant sleeps with boy' and then you get people saying things like 'what a lad' etc etc now if you swing the story around and it's a male teaching assistant it's a completely different story.
Regardless of what gender those involved are it's completely unacceptable.
letmein
30-09-2015, 07:30 AM
They were counting? I guess that was his math lesson.
Amy Jade
30-09-2015, 07:53 AM
Iggy Azalea?
Ashley.
30-09-2015, 08:13 AM
why would a woman that good looking be fiddling with children? she must be mental
because she knew she'd get away with it.
These cases are even worse when it's a teacher or teaching assistant because they have such a duty of care towards students.
I agree completely.
I also hate how the media deal with these stories too, say if it's a decent looking female they post pics of them all dressed nice with make up etc or you get headlines like 'glamourous teaching assistant sleeps with boy' and then you get people saying things like 'what a lad' etc etc now if you swing the story around and it's a male teaching assistant it's a completely different story.
Regardless of what gender those involved are it's completely unacceptable.
..I agree with you both, it's a complete betrayal of someone who is in a position of trust and akin to something like a police officer...school staff have endless training of situations that may arise of a child 'making a disclosure' to them of something that had made/was making the child feel uncomfortable...the disclosures are often made to school staff and within schools because children don't always feel they can talk to parents or family members for whatever reasons and school staff represent 'trust' to them...it's one of the worst things for someone to betray that trust like she did and exploit his vulnerability....
...also, yes Josy...when you look at the pics of this story and try to 'flip it'...say it was an attractive male school worker..?..I just can't imagine that anyone or many people in the public would find it anything other than distasteful and inappropriate to the story and what he had done...if he was media presented as a physically 'hot guy'...
..and maybe some of the school staff who have abused in this way have actually themselves sat in on children's meetings and talks with social workers..I just find this so, so hard...
user104658
30-09-2015, 08:56 AM
http://www.southparkstudios.co.uk/clips/155304/nice
Entirely relevant to this thread.
Liam-
30-09-2015, 09:00 AM
I actually can't stand the way people don't take stories like this seriously if it's a woman doing the wrong, but go all out and want blood when a man takes advantage of a girl, it's actually infuriating.
http://www.southparkstudios.co.uk/clips/155304/nice
Entirely relevant to this thread.
..so yeah I had to click and admit to the over 18yrs bit, trust you TS...they always get it so right though, don't they...South Park...
Northern Monkey
30-09-2015, 09:09 AM
I know tell me about it. Lucky little sh*t.
That's what i thought too!When i was 15 my hormones were raging.I'd have given a bollock to **** her.:laugh:
Niamh.
30-09-2015, 09:12 AM
I agree completely.
I also hate how the media deal with these stories too, say if it's a decent looking female they post pics of them all dressed nice with make up etc or you get headlines like 'glamourous teaching assistant sleeps with boy' and then you get people saying things like 'what a lad' etc etc now if you swing the story around and it's a male teaching assistant it's a completely different story.
Regardless of what gender those involved are it's completely unacceptable.
Absolutely agree. Also, can I point out that the majority of the time it's men that make those comments as well. So you have some men screaming reverse sexism which is fine but they need to realise that it's mostly men enforcing that reverse sexism. I think the majority of women would as disgusted by either male or female teachers in this kind of situation.
user104658
30-09-2015, 09:15 AM
..so yeah I had to click and admit to the over 18yrs bit, trust you TS...they always get it so right though, don't they...South Park...
If I remember right, when that episode came out there was something similar going on in the US. A teacher had been having sex with various teenage boys but absolutely everything in the media was just about how hot she was, "teachers didn't look like that when I was at school!!", and all of that.
I know age isn't entirely the point, but I swear, people would have less problem with an attractive 40 year old female teacher having a relationship with a 13 year old boy than they would with a 30-something year old male teacher and a 16 year old female pupil. There's this perception that the girl must have "been groomed" whereas the boy is "lucky!".
Crimson Dynamo
30-09-2015, 09:26 AM
The devious breaking of trust is unforgivable.
It's totally wrong and I can see the hypocrisy and double standards when you switch genders but looking at this from the perspective of a red blooded male that was once a teen this is a fantasy for a lot of lads at that age so when we are talking about people calling him 'lucky' in my opinion yeh he is lucky. I'm well jealous myself. I'd have loved it if I was the kid.
If I remember right, when that episode came out there was something similar going on in the US. A teacher had been having sex with various teenage boys but absolutely everything in the media was just about how hot she was, "teachers didn't look like that when I was at school!!", and all of that.
I know age isn't entirely the point, but I swear, people would have less problem with an attractive 40 year old female teacher having a relationship with a 13 year old boy than they would with a 30-something year old male teacher and a 16 year old female pupil. There's this perception that the girl must have "been groomed" whereas the boy is "lucky!".
...mind you I have to say, when I was at school a long time ago..we had a male tutor who was considered 'hot' and the subject of lots of crushes for some girl pupils..he was 27yrs old, with a new wife and young baby..I only really knew his age was what it was exactly because he and a 16yr old student had an affair and obviously it was a HUGE scandal and talking point, so his age was mentioned....I know she was 16yrs old and not a child in the eyes of the law but still, this was all in school ours and in the school itself and so a betrayal of trust and duty of care..from what I recall, there was no 'grooming' thoughts but more that she was the one criticised and being called pretty horrific things...she also became pregnant by him, by the way...
Liam-
30-09-2015, 09:30 AM
It's totally wrong and I can see the hypocrisy and double standards when you switch genders but looking at this from the perspective of a red blooded male that was once a teen this is a fantasy for a lot of lads at that age so when we are talking about people calling him 'lucky' in my opinion yeh he is lucky. I'm well jealous myself. I'd have loved it if I was the kid.
He's lucky to have been abused? :worry:
It's totally wrong and I can see the hypocrisy and double standards when you switch genders but looking at this from the perspective of a red blooded male that was once a teen this is a fantasy for a lot of lads at that age so when we are talking about people calling him 'lucky' in my opinion yeh he is lucky. I'm well jealous myself. I'd have loved it if I was the kid.
..yeah, I can understand that as well and how it becomes the 'thing to say' as well I guess..oh wow, my teachers never looked like that...
Niamh.
30-09-2015, 09:36 AM
If I remember right, when that episode came out there was something similar going on in the US. A teacher had been having sex with various teenage boys but absolutely everything in the media was just about how hot she was, "teachers didn't look like that when I was at school!!", and all of that.
I know age isn't entirely the point, but I swear, people would have less problem with an attractive 40 year old female teacher having a relationship with a 13 year old boy than they would with a 30-something year old male teacher and a 16 year old female pupil. There's this perception that the girl must have "been groomed" whereas the boy is "lucky!".
And again, it's other men that reinforce that view, just look at the comments in this thread alone for example
He's lucky to have been abused? :worry:
If I were having a sexual liaison with a female teacher as a 15 year old lad the last word I'd be using is 'abused' I'll tell you that. :laugh:
Look at the end of the day I said it's wrong and I totally understand the double standards but I'm not gonna sit and lie and pretend that if I knew this lad when I was in school that I wouldn't be patting him on the back and teling him well done for doing what we all dreamed of.
Northern Monkey
30-09-2015, 10:02 AM
Everyone knows it's wrong.Nobody's stupid enough to think otherwise.I get what Kyle is saying.Looking at it from the 15 year old lad's perspective.I still remember being that age.I'd get a stiffy from the vibrations of the bus seat.Obviously it's wrong!Nobody thinks otherwise.His parents will obviously be furious.
..that's a bit too much information there Paul...probably why you didn't save bus fare and walk instead...
Northern Monkey
30-09-2015, 10:26 AM
..that's a bit too much information there Paul...probably why you didn't save bus fare and walk instead...
Sorry.:joker:
I think it's true of most lads that age though was my point.Many blokes remember what it was like to be that age...The frustration,Like torture:laugh:
Livia
30-09-2015, 10:58 AM
I fail to see what a fifteen year old boy could offer a thirty year old woman. Inexperience and gratitude isn't such a turn on.
She should get the same treatment at a 30 year old male would get if he went with a 15 year old girl. The punishment has to be seen to be equal. At least her career's over.
Crimson Dynamo
30-09-2015, 11:06 AM
Its abuse
end of
Liam-
30-09-2015, 11:09 AM
Its abuse
end of
Thank you.
JoshBB
30-09-2015, 08:12 PM
Its abuse
end of
[2]
Abuse of power, trust, and since an under-16 cannot legally consent to sex, it's also rape technically.
She should be in jail.
Ninastar
30-09-2015, 08:16 PM
[2]
Abuse of power, trust, and since an under-16 cannot legally consent to sex, it's also rape technically.
She should be in jail.
Not often that we agree, but well said!
the truth
30-09-2015, 08:44 PM
as always the double standards are never ever brought up by the mainstream media or politicians....the whole issue here of a women raping a minor is based on power manipulation exploitation grooming etc etc and it will leave lasting psychological damage on the boy , not to mention the enormous impact it will have on his lfe
Johnnyuk123
30-09-2015, 09:02 PM
And we are all suposed too beleive that this kid hasn't bragged about it to his mates on the playground? :joker::joker::joker:
Mystic Mock
30-09-2015, 11:03 PM
They were counting? I guess that was his math lesson.
:joker:
As sick as it sounds there are probably quite a few attractive 14/15 year old guys and girls, why can't these Teachers wait a year or two before ****ing them?
the truth
30-09-2015, 11:05 PM
she groomed this child for his penis, sick bitch
Niamh.
01-10-2015, 09:01 AM
as always the double standards are never ever brought up by the mainstream media or politicians....the whole issue here of a women raping a minor is based on power manipulation exploitation grooming etc etc and it will leave lasting psychological damage on the boy , not to mention the enormous impact it will have on his lfe
Absolutely agree, you should have a word with your fellow men who aren't taking it seriously with the "lucky guy" comments and the like
I give up. I've said on multiple occasions it's obviously wrong but if you seriously think that a young 15 year old lad who gets approached for sex by an older woman like the one in this thread would not be thanking his lucky stars then you obviously don't talk to men.
That's all I (and northern monkey to his credit) have been saying on this thread but as usual in serious debates all that gets looked over for something to be offended about.
Niamh.
01-10-2015, 09:28 AM
I give up. I've said on multiple occasions it's obviously wrong but if you seriously think that a young 15 year old lad who gets approached for sex by an older woman like the one in this thread would not be thanking his lucky stars then you obviously don't talk to men.
That's all I (and northern monkey to his credit) have been saying on this thread but as usual in serious debates all that gets looked over for something to be offended about.
I'm not offended by it, I'm just making sure that the truth realises that alot of times his fellow men and not women are to blame for reverse sexism/double standards :hee:
the truth
01-10-2015, 09:31 AM
Absolutely agree, you should have a word with your fellow men who aren't taking it seriously with the "lucky guy" comments and the like
people who say that are morons and I agree that type of drivel is often heard. men are usually brought up without fathers and are brainwashed into feminism and often poisoned against their fathers. so they disrespect their fellow men. this is all part of the feminazi indoctrination. they want to tear down masculinity, they want to revise history , disrespect and rewrite male achievements ...where too are the feminists outraged with these double standards? I thought they were about equality? theyre not theyre about getting everything for women and men can burn in hell
Niamh.
01-10-2015, 09:36 AM
people who say that are morons and I agree that type of drivel is often heard. men are usually brought up without fathers and are brainwashed into feminism and often poisoned against their fathers. so they disrespect their fellow men. this is all part of the feminazi indoctrination. they want to tear down masculinity, they want to revise history , disrespect and rewrite male achievements ...where too are the feminists outraged with these double standards? I thought they were about equality? theyre not theyre about getting everything for women and men can burn in hell
Don't be absurd, that attitude is certainly not one taught by women or feminists, that's an old school, one of the lads, women are pieces of meat type attitude. Do you honestly think a mother teaches her son to be like that? Mothers are more likely to want to rip that "teacher" to pieces for going near their son, I know I would if he was my son
Vanessa
01-10-2015, 09:51 AM
The lad is talking on This Morning.
I'm not offended by it, I'm just making sure that the truth realises that alot of times his fellow men and not women are to blame for reverse sexism/double standards :hee:
Fair enough but short of genetically modifying the male populace that mentality is never going to change.
A hundred years, two hundred years from now there's still going to be little 14/15 year old Kyle's and Northern Monkey's that will be praying their English teacher gives them a shot at manhood. :smug:
Liam-
01-10-2015, 11:34 AM
I fancied a few of my teachers at school but I wouldn't sit here today as an adult and say an underaged person seduced by their teacher was 'lucky'.
Would it be a different case if the teacher was old, fat and ugly? would it be abuse then?
Or what if it was a male teacher with an underaged male student? I'm more than certain that would be seen as abuse.
Tom4784
01-10-2015, 11:38 AM
Don't be absurd, that attitude is certainly not one taught by women or feminists, that's an old school, one of the lads, women are pieces of meat type attitude. Do you honestly think a mother teaches her son to be like that? Mothers are more likely to want to rip that "teacher" to pieces for going near their son, I know I would if he was my son
Very true. South Park did an episode that satirized the issue pretty well.
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Liam-
01-10-2015, 11:40 AM
Also, can we not try and label this 'lucky bastard' attitude as 'it's a man thing' because it's really not.
Tom4784
01-10-2015, 11:41 AM
Also, can we not try and label this 'lucky bastard' attitude as 'it's a man thing' because it's really not.
Well....it is.
the truth
01-10-2015, 11:41 AM
Don't be absurd, that attitude is certainly not one taught by women or feminists, that's an old school, one of the lads, women are pieces of meat type attitude. Do you honestly think a mother teaches her son to be like that? Mothers are more likely to want to rip that "teacher" to pieces for going near their son, I know I would if he was my son
don't be absurd. this is exacly what feminists want,they ant everything for women and don't give a damn about males, boys or men. this is proved by the fact feminists say nothing about record male suicide across the entire western world, even worse in young men, they say nothing about the fact mens health is phenomenally underfunded across the western world, women take up 4 times as much money on health spending and over 50 times as much on female charities. feminists say and do nothing about the fact there are 5% male teachers in primary schools, that nearly 50% of kids do not have regular contact with their fathers, that 80% of men lose their homes their kids and half their livelihood in all divorces....they say nothing of the fact young boys so often have no male role models....no wonder we end up with the disgusting situation where women rape young boys and don't even go to jail for it...that women kill men and don't go to jail for it....feminism is pure male hate it is pure evil, period
Liam-
01-10-2015, 11:44 AM
Well....it is.
No it's not, I'm a man and I don't have that attitude and I'm sure a lot of other men don't have that attitude either.
Niamh.
01-10-2015, 11:44 AM
don't be absurd. this is exacly what feminists want,they ant everything for women and don't give a damn about males, boys or men. this is proved by the fact feminists say nothing about record male suicide across the entire western world, even worse in young men, they say nothing about the fact mens health is phenomenally underfunded across the western world, women take up 4 times as much money on health spending and over 50 times as much on female charities. feminists say and do nothing about the fact there are 5% male teachers in primary schools, that nearly 50% of kids do not have regular contact with their fathers, that 80% of men lose their homes their kids and half their livelihood in all divorces....they say nothing of the fact young boys so often have no male role models....no wonder we end up with the disgusting situation where women rape young boys and don't even go to jail for it...that women kill men and don't go to jail for it....feminism is pure male hate it is pure evil, period
Change the record Truth. If you're genuinely concerned about this stuff then you need to look at what part men play in all of these problems, as well as just blaming women for everything. But I think you don't want to hear that and actually have an intelligent discussion about it. Come back to me if you ever do though.
Tom4784
01-10-2015, 11:45 AM
don't be absurd. this is exacly what feminists want,they ant everything for women and don't give a damn about males, boys or men. this is proved by the fact feminists say nothing about record male suicide across the entire western world, even worse in young men, they say nothing about the fact mens health is phenomenally underfunded across the western world, women take up 4 times as much money on health spending and over 50 times as much on female charities. feminists say and do nothing about the fact there are 5% male teachers in primary schools, that nearly 50% of kids do not have regular contact with their fathers, that 80% of men lose their homes their kids and half their livelihood in all divorces....they say nothing of the fact young boys so often have no male role models....no wonder we end up with the disgusting situation where women rape young boys and don't even go to jail for it...that women kill men and don't go to jail for it....feminism is pure male hate it is pure evil, period
You are deluded and none of what you've has any relevance (or truth, or an ounce of common sense for that matter) to the topic at hand. The whole attitude of a kid being 'lucky' if he gets with an older female teacher is a male thing, it's a laddish attitude.
Tom4784
01-10-2015, 11:46 AM
No it's not, I'm a man and I don't have that attitude and I'm sure a lot of other men don't have that attitude either.
That's not relevant, nobody is saying that all men think that but the attitude is something that originated with men.
Niamh.
01-10-2015, 11:46 AM
That's not relevant, nobody is saying that all men think that but the attitude is something that originated with men.
Yes exactly.
It's like that phrase "Man up" that's also mostly said by other men yet people use it as an example of reverse sexism sometimes too.
Liam-
01-10-2015, 11:48 AM
Oh.. when you say it like that yeah, but the term 'it's a man thing' seems to imply all men do it to me :laugh:
I find that attitude a bit sick tbh
Good call me sick, doesn't bother me.
Still doesn't change the fact that had that woman approached me as a 15 year old I'd be loving it no matter how wrong it obviously is and it is patently wrong.
Niamh.
01-10-2015, 11:55 AM
Good call me sick, doesn't bother me.
Still doesn't change the fact that had that woman approached me as a 15 year old I'd be loving it no matter how wrong it obviously is and it is patently wrong.
It is an attitude that, to a point, is carried on to adults and fathers though as well. Like most fathers would be far more ok with finding out their son was having sex than their daughter, again this is a man thing, mens attitudes not womens. Me personally, having a son and a daughter, I'd have the same attitude towards both of them in regards to sex
arista
01-10-2015, 11:56 AM
The lad is talking on This Morning.
only the back of his head
was on
LukeB
01-10-2015, 11:57 AM
only the back of his head
was on
Sia teas
Liam-
01-10-2015, 11:58 AM
Good call me sick, doesn't bother me.
Still doesn't change the fact that had that woman approached me as a 15 year old I'd be loving it no matter how wrong it obviously is and it is patently wrong.
I didn't call you sick, just that mentality :laugh:
And you're not 15 anymore, of course you'd enjoy it at the time and even pat your mate on the back if you found out he'd done it, but as an adult I find it absurd to hold the view that an underaged person being seduced into an illegal relationship is 'lucky' just because it was your fantasy to screw a hot teacher, he's not lucky, he was abused.
It is an attitude that, to a point, is carried on to adults and fathers though as well. Like most fathers would be far more ok with finding out their son was having sex than their daughter, again this is a man thing, mens attitudes not womens. Me personally, having a son and a daughter, I'd have the same attitude towards both of them in regards to sex
I doubt I'd really think about what other people are doing when I'm a 15 year old getting propositioned by an older woman but fair enough I'm a bad role model as well. Keep them coming.
I didn't call you sick, just that mentality :laugh:
And you're not 15 anymore, of course you'd enjoy it at the time and even pat your mate on the back if you found out he'd done it, but as an adult I find it absurd to hold the view that an underaged person being seduced into an illegal relationship is 'lucky' just because it was your fantasy to screw a hot teacher, he's not lucky, he was abused.
That's all I've been talking about in this thread. My point of view as a 15 year old. I'm 26 so my teenage years weren't that far behind me.
The fact that I'm old enough to know that all should be punished equally to the full extent of the law does not change the fact that putting myself in this persons situation I would totally have been envious of him.
I'm sorry if that makes me a bad person I really am.
Niamh.
01-10-2015, 12:06 PM
I doubt I'd really think about what other people are doing when I'm a 15 year old getting propositioned by an older woman but fair enough I'm a bad role model as well. Keep them coming.
Where did I say that you were a bad role model? I'm just talking about attitudes in general.
Crimson Dynamo
01-10-2015, 12:08 PM
People need to realise that paedophiles are women too
Where did I say that you were a bad role model? I'm just talking about attitudes in general.
It's implied through the attitude that I hold on here that you've taken issue with that should I ever father children I would then allegedly pass onto them too.
Niamh.
01-10-2015, 12:12 PM
People need to realise that paedophiles are women too
Indeed. The point I'm trying to make here though is alot of times when people complain about double standards and reverse sexism, they automatically blame women for that when in reality alot of these attitudes and double standards are there because of men themselves
Niamh.
01-10-2015, 12:14 PM
It's implied through the attitude that I hold on here that you've taken issue with that should I ever father children I would then allegedly pass onto them too.
omg kyle, i never said that or was thinking it at all :/ You're taking this waaaaaay too personally when your comment just made me think of a wider and pretty common attitude amongst alot of men. It doesn't mean that they should never be fathers, I was just saying that maybe it should be thought about a bit more
omg kyle, i never said that or was thinking it at all :/ You're taking this waaaaaay too personally when your comment just made me think of a wider and pretty common attitude amongst alot of men. It doesn't mean that they should never be fathers, I was just saying that maybe it should be thought about a bit more
Fair enough Nimah I apologise.
Btw I know I misspelt your name there but I didn't want to edit the original post to change it in case you thought I might have said something else and then changed it.
Niamh.
01-10-2015, 12:18 PM
Btw I know I misspelt your name there but I didn't want to edit the original post to change it in case you thought I might have said something else and then changed it.
I can check edits anyway to see the original post :fan:
arista
01-10-2015, 12:18 PM
People need to realise that paedophiles are women too
Yes thats the Most Important
part of this story
Sign Of The Times.
Jack_
01-10-2015, 12:26 PM
Am I the only one that really doesn't give a crap about these types of stories, male or female? Like, yeah, obviously she's broken the law and abused her position of power, and yes there are a lot of double standards dependent on the sex of the individuals involved and it should be equal, but in all honesty...do I think it's that bad? Not really.
People who are on the cusp of 16 having consensual sex with someone older, is IMO, not much of a problem. Obviously the younger you get and the less consensual it is, the more of an issue it becomes, but my reaction to stories like these is usually ':shrug:' I know someone will inevitably point out you can't legally consent to sex until you're 16, but if we stop looking at it in legal terms and in...well...reality, if someone isn't being forced into it, and is almost 16, it's consensual. Age is only a number
And when stories of this ilk emerge and the person involved is 16/17, there is absolutely nothing wrong with it at all. And I really never get the hysteria over that. I can understand minors, but when you're over 16...well...sorry, that's their business and no one else's. It's a bit like that story of the 16 year old girl and the 30 year old teacher that ran off to France a few years ago, and people were calling for him to be slaughtered etc, and it's like well no, she's of age, it's clearly not just a sex thing and they actually have feelings for each other, so whatever :shrug:
This is not paedophillia either.
the truth
01-10-2015, 05:55 PM
Change the record Truth. If you're genuinely concerned about this stuff then you need to look at what part men play in all of these problems, as well as just blaming women for everything. But I think you don't want to hear that and actually have an intelligent discussion about it. Come back to me if you ever do though.
come back to me if you've ever got anything remotely intelligent or compassionate or unbiased to say...no? didn't think so
the truth
01-10-2015, 05:56 PM
Am I the only one that really doesn't give a crap about these types of stories, male or female? Like, yeah, obviously she's broken the law and abused her position of power, and yes there are a lot of double standards dependent on the sex of the individuals involved and it should be equal, but in all honesty...do I think it's that bad? Not really.
People who are on the cusp of 16 having consensual sex with someone older, is IMO, not much of a problem. Obviously the younger you get and the less consensual it is, the more of an issue it becomes, but my reaction to stories like these is usually ':shrug:' I know someone will inevitably point out you can't legally consent to sex until you're 16, but if we stop looking at it in legal terms and in...well...reality, if someone isn't being forced into it, and is almost 16, it's consensual. Age is only a number
And when stories of this ilk emerge and the person involved is 16/17, there is absolutely nothing wrong with it at all. And I really never get the hysteria over that. I can understand minors, but when you're over 16...well...sorry, that's their business and no one else's. It's a bit like that story of the 16 year old girl and the 30 year old teacher that ran off to France a few years ago, and people were calling for him to be slaughtered etc, and it's like well no, she's of age, it's clearly not just a sex thing and they actually have feelings for each other, so whatever :shrug:
This is not paedophillia either.
funny ive never heard you say that when it was a man perpetrating
the truth
01-10-2015, 05:57 PM
omg kyle, i never said that or was thinking it at all :/ You're taking this waaaaaay too personally when your comment just made me think of a wider and pretty common attitude amongst alot of men. It doesn't mean that they should never be fathers, I was just saying that maybe it should be thought about a bit more
there you go again, a woman rapes a minor and youre blaming men, shameful sexism:nono:
Marsh.
01-10-2015, 05:58 PM
Indeed. The point I'm trying to make here though is alot of times when people complain about double standards and reverse sexism, they automatically blame women for that when in reality alot of these attitudes and double standards are there because of men themselves
So now it's men's fault again. ****ing women! :fist:
Jack_
01-10-2015, 06:01 PM
funny ive never heard you say that when it was a man perpetrating
Prove it.
Because as I've just referenced, I felt exactly the same when the story about the 30 year old male teacher and 16 year old girl emerged
the truth
01-10-2015, 06:13 PM
Prove it.
Because as I've just referenced, I felt exactly the same when the story about the 30 year old male teacher and 16 year old girl emerged
that was legal this isn't...youre being hypocritical again
Jack_
01-10-2015, 06:18 PM
that was legal this isn't...youre being hypocritical again
Actually, I did a search and it turns out it wasn't legal at all. The girl was 15, but the pair began their affair when she was 14. Read my two posts on this page:
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5522711&highlight=#post5522711
Niamh.
01-10-2015, 07:26 PM
there you go again, a woman rapes a minor and youre blaming men, shameful sexism:nono:
Not at all, I 'm speaking about the attitudes of people towards this abuse, you can clearly see the only people making light of it in this thread alone are men, all the women who posted were disgusted by it, hell truth even your very own first post in here was one making a joke about it, dear oh dear
Crimson Dynamo
01-10-2015, 07:45 PM
http://www.bodyforwife.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/dog-and-bone.jpg
getting involved in an argument with neem on tibb
Niamh.
01-10-2015, 07:54 PM
http://www.bodyforwife.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/dog-and-bone.jpg
getting involved in an argument with neem on tibb
:hee:
JoshBB
01-10-2015, 08:28 PM
I think you've touched on a good point though Niamh, the mentality of "oh!! he should have enjoyed it!!" is an attitude spread around by men themselves and this whole 'lad culture', which really doesn't help to solve the issue of women getting let off lighter for paedophilia when it should be equal punishments to both genders.
Locke.
01-10-2015, 10:17 PM
"Two months of abuse by Caroline Berriman left boy 'scarred for life' "
LOL! Yeah right
Glenn.
01-10-2015, 10:18 PM
What a LAD
Niamh.
01-10-2015, 10:20 PM
You pair of feminazis :fist:
LukeB
01-10-2015, 10:22 PM
"Two months of abuse by Caroline Berriman left boy 'scarred for life' "
LOL! Yeah right
I was thinking this too:laugh:
Liam-
01-10-2015, 10:23 PM
I hate everything about this thread, not only the story but a lot of the attitudes towards it actually make me a bit sick I can't
However will we sleep at night.
Jack_
01-10-2015, 10:35 PM
I hate everything about this thread, not only the story but a lot of the attitudes towards it actually make me a bit sick I can't
You'll love the comments on here then
https://www.facebook.com/uniladmag/posts/1790886917601026
Despite what I posted earlier, one comment I saw that said something along the lines of 'of course it would be different if it were a male teacher with a female student! Guys and girls are not the same' is a stretch too far for me :umm2:
JoshBB
01-10-2015, 11:08 PM
I hate everything about this thread, not only the story but a lot of the attitudes towards it actually make me a bit sick I can't
Me too..
It's all the usual "mens rights!!!!!!" people that are contradicting themselves as well and it's really upsetting that someone can be allowed to get away lighter with a crime like this because of their gender.
LukeB
01-10-2015, 11:24 PM
women can be peaodophile too.. she should be jailed or something because it's against the law as he is under 16.
but i do feel Two months of abuse by Caroline Berriman left boy 'scarred for life' is a lie... even tho it seems she was the one that led him on or it could be the other way round. idk it takes two to tango.
Jack_
01-10-2015, 11:27 PM
This woman is not a paedophile
And before I'm accused of the inevitable, had it been a male teacher (as was the case a few years back), he would not be a paedophile either
Firewire
01-10-2015, 11:47 PM
women can be peaodophile too.. she should be jailed or something because it's against the law as he is under 16.
but i do feel Two months of abuse by Caroline Berriman left boy 'scarred for life' is a lie... even tho it seems she was the one that led him on or it could be the other way round. idk it takes two to tango.
He was on This Morning and said her child kept calling him "daddy" which he was uncomfortable with and felt pressure of having to keep their relationship a secret. He said it was fun at the start but it became a huge problem and tried to end the relationship.
LukeB
01-10-2015, 11:48 PM
He was on This Morning and said her child kept calling him "daddy" which he was uncomfortable with and felt pressure of having to keep their relationship a secret. He said it was fun at the start but it became a huge problem and tried to end the relationship.
So just because it came from his mouth doesn't mean it's 100% true not everyone tells the whole truth
Firewire
01-10-2015, 11:50 PM
So just because it came from his mouth doesn't mean it's 100% true
It's unfair to accuse him of lying, really
LukeB
01-10-2015, 11:53 PM
It's unfair to accuse him of lying, really
Just because he's 15 and is known as a victim in all this doesn't mean he's telling the whole truth and people have to believe what he says..Not every story is 100% accurate or the truth.
Liam-
01-10-2015, 11:54 PM
Typical, the victim is 'lying' how grim
Firewire
01-10-2015, 11:55 PM
Just because he's 15 and is known as a victim in all this doesn't mean he's telling the whole truth and people have to believe what he says..Not every story is 100% accurate or the truth.
I never said he was. I don't get why this is important :shrug:
LukeB
01-10-2015, 11:59 PM
I never said he was. I don't get why this is important :shrug:
I didn't say it;s important tbh I just don't 100% believe he was scarred by it.
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