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Ella

18-01-2007, 01:01 PM

Originally posted by Edwin
Oh god, this has been blown WAY out of proportion by the press.

I don't think the Carphone Warehouse is in anyway "moral" they just know that the viewers who will jump on the racism bandwagon...

Yeah exactly..But its gone to far now, If BB had sorted this out atthe first sign of bullying/Rasicm then it may all have been sorted by now.

rex3

18-01-2007, 01:03 PM

Oh, comon dont give it "Its Political Corrrectness GONE mad"

the rates have slumped thats why there pulling out............................

Edwin

18-01-2007, 01:03 PM

Originally posted by Elz_Belz
Yeah exactly..But its gone to far now, If BB had sorted this out atthe first sign of bullying/Rasicm then it may all have been sorted by now.

Racism, they should have sorted out, but bullying has happenned in all series of BB so I don't see the problem. If Carphone Warehouse gave a tosh about bullying then they would have pulled out last year when Shabaz was bullied, but since they didn't have the press blowing it out of proportion they didn't have anything to fear. It's all about money.

Edwin

18-01-2007, 01:04 PM

Originally posted by rex3
Oh, comon dont give it "Its Political Corrrectness GONE mad"

the rates have slumped thats why there pulling out............................

It's actually quite the opposite.

Ella

18-01-2007, 01:05 PM

Originally posted by Edwin
Originally posted by Elz_Belz
Yeah exactly..But its gone to far now, If BB had sorted this out atthe first sign of bullying/Rasicm then it may all have been sorted by now.

Racism, they should have sorted out, but bullying has happenned in all series of BB so I don't see the problem. If Carphone Warehouse gave a tosh about bullying then they would have pulled out last year when Shabaz was bullied, but since they didn't have the press blowing it out of proportion they didn't have anything to fear. It's all about money.

Yes, But im talking in general, The bullying thats going on now is far more extreme IMO, When it was Shabaz he bought a lot of it on himself by hiding the food ect ect, Shilpa has done nothing that I can see to warrant this treatment from Jade, Danielle and Jo.

rex3

18-01-2007, 01:06 PM

Originally posted by Edwin
Originally posted by rex3
Oh, comon dont give it "Its Political Corrrectness GONE mad"

the rates have slumped thats why there pulling out............................

It's actually quite the opposite.

2 millions views were watching before this row exploded, compared to previous years, which means there is a decrease

in general its getting lower rates

arista

18-01-2007, 01:06 PM

BBC News 24
claim it has suspened sponsorship
on ch4's show tonight.

So they are still in talks
and still on E4 at this moment.

Leona

18-01-2007, 01:10 PM

I didn't think Carphone warehouse would have guts to do this.
Interesting..

Edwin

18-01-2007, 01:10 PM

Originally posted by Elz_Belz
Yes, But Im talking in general, The bullying thats going on now is far more extreme IMO, When it was Shabaz he bought a lot of it on himself by hiding the food ect ect, Shilpa has done nothing that I can see to warrant this treatment from Jade, Danielle and Jo.

I have to disagree, I thought locking Shabaz out and stealing his towel was awful. Let's not forget that almost the whole house was against him, here it's just three mardy girls.

And i've mentioned this in another thread, just because someone has "brought it on themselves" does it somehow make it justified?

Hippy

18-01-2007, 01:12 PM

Originally posted by Edwin
Oh god, this has been blown WAY out of proportion by the press.

I don't think the Carphone Warehouse is in anyway "moral" they just know that the viewers who will jump on the racism bandwagon...

I use CW's/TalkTalk ADSL package and they in no way have any morals at all, so this is obviously some kind of publicity stunt.

arista

18-01-2007, 01:15 PM

Originally posted by Leona
I didn't think Carphone warehouse would have guts to do this.
Interesting..

What number of Cutomers have they lost
because of this show.

So far it is just tonights ch4 show.
Tomorrow Endemol need a firm sponser
so they may have one on standby now.

Ella

18-01-2007, 01:18 PM

Originally posted by Edwin
Originally posted by Elz_Belz
Yes, But Im talking in general, The bullying thats going on now is far more extreme IMO, When it was Shabaz he bought a lot of it on himself by hiding the food ect ect, Shilpa has done nothing that I can see to warrant this treatment from Jade, Danielle and Jo.

I have to disagree, I thought locking Shabaz out and stealing his towel was awful. Let's not forget that almost the whole house was against him, here it's just three mardy girls.

And i've mentioned this in another thread, just because someone has "brought it on themselves" does it somehow make it justified?

No not at all Edwin..Bullying should never be justified..But Shabaz was also a bully then if thats the case..Hiding the HM's food..thats bullying, Its like at school if someone hid your pencil case, That's classed as bullying.

Edwin

18-01-2007, 01:19 PM

Originally posted by arista
What number of Cutomers have they lost
because of this show.

So far it is just tonights ch4 show.
Tomorrow Endemol need a firm sponser
so they may have one on standby now.

Apparently this withdrawal is only going to last one day. Doubt the newspapers will tell you that though :wink:

arista

18-01-2007, 01:20 PM

Yes that is a Punishment to Endemol.

Edwin

18-01-2007, 01:21 PM

Originally posted by Elz_Belz
No not at all Edwin..Bullying should never be justified..But Shabaz was also a bully then if thats the case..Hiding the HM's food..thats bullying, Its like at school if someone hid your pencil case, That's classed as bullying.

So is the friday night eviction crowd booing certain housemates, but I don't ever hear anyone complaining about that.

Also, you're right, but I do think the word 'bullying' is used too lightly, people should learn to stick up for themselves, and fortunately Shilpa has done so.

Leona

18-01-2007, 02:16 PM

Reality TV Show Sponsor Pulls Out
Thursday January 18, 02:38 PM

The Carphone Warehouse has suspended its sponsorship from the Celebrity Big Brother show after alleged racist comments sparked thousands of complaints. The company ordered Channel 4 to remove its name and branding from the programme with immediate effect.
The move came after last night's episode saw an escalation of alleged racist bullying directed at Bollywood star Shilpa Shetty.

Charles Dunstone, The Carphone Warehouse CEO, said: "Our concern has rapidly mounted about the broadcast

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behaviour of individuals within the Big Brother house.
"We are totally against all forms of racism and bullying and indeed this behaviour is entirely at odds with the brand values of The Carphone Warehouse.

"As a result we feel that as long as this continues we are unable to associate our brand with the programme.

"We had already made it clear to Channel 4 that were this to continue, we would have to consider our position.

"Nothing we saw last night gave us any comfort. Accordingly, we have instructed Channel 4 to remove our sponsorship name and branding with immediate effect."

Up to 27,000 viewers agree with Shetty - they have complained to TV regulator Ofcom about fellow housemate Jade Goody's behaviour towards the Indian actress.

Some have defended Goody, saying she is not racist, just ignorant.

However, The Perfume Shop has also decided to withdraw sales of her perfume from its shelves following the controversy.

Blink_Me

18-01-2007, 02:32 PM

If the Big Brother's producers not careful, the show might get shut down.

arista

18-01-2007, 02:50 PM

E4 is no longer having
Carphone sponsership
after the ads it just starts,
so the ban is all Endemol Producy today

arista

18-01-2007, 02:51 PM

Originally posted by Blink_Me
If the Big Brother's producers not careful, the show might get shut down.

tonights show
Jade gets told off.

So they are dealing with it.

plus tomorrow
the eviction
of Shilpa and Jade.

From the Ch4 Boss live interview.

Leona

18-01-2007, 02:59 PM

Thanx for the info Arista.

blinkinlovely

18-01-2007, 03:09 PM

Originally posted by Elz_Belz
I hope people don't start hating Russell and Davina though.

I enjoy the bb thing esp online(but hate bullying) however I don't like either davina or russell. sorry

one is ineffective and the other offensive. Neither are funny

soz. just my opinion

arista

18-01-2007, 03:13 PM

Well Endemol
could also hand this to another Media Corp
in the near future.

Then all staff would change

BigSister

18-01-2007, 03:14 PM

shilpa and jade arent both getting evicted just 1of them

hass

18-01-2007, 03:25 PM

its not racism, i agree it was bullying last night when Jo and Danielle where laughing at the arguement but it was a stupid argument and because Shilpa is Indian, why do they whole *****ing world have to say its racist? What got said when Germaine called Jackie "white trash"? but when that phrase got mentioned on coronation street there was an uproar. When they both joined in on the argument, Shilpa said it was because she was Indian, i never heard Jade say its because she is british! this country is a joke and all the people who have complained about racism have got a chip on their shoulders! Im glad the carphone warehouse has stopped their sponsor ship, i hated that little phone! :nono:

Diablo

18-01-2007, 03:28 PM

Originally posted by hass
its not racism, i agree it was bullying last night when Jo and Danielle where laughing at the arguement but it was a stupid argument and because Shilpa is Indian, why do they whole *****ing world have to say its racist? What got said when Germaine called Jackie "white trash"? but when that phrase got mentioned on coronation street there was an uproar. When they both joined in on the argument, Shilpa said it was because she was Indian, i never heard Jade say its because she is british! this country is a joke and all the people who have complained about racism have got a chip on their shoulders! Im glad the carphone warehouse has stopped their sponsor ship, i hated that little phone! :nono:

I agree to an extent and I had been arguing the point that it was ignorance and stupidity rather than racism.. and then Danielle says Shilpa should ***** off home... I cant argue the point anymore after that because I dont know how else that remark could be taken.. The white trash I think is just an american term for skallys like Jade....? I didnt find it offensive..

Blink_Me

18-01-2007, 03:31 PM

I heard Danielle say, "she can't hardly speak proper English anyway," when Shilpa can speak better English than Danielle. Danielle knows Shilpa can speak good English.

To me..... that's a racist comment. I don't know about anyone else.

Emilee

18-01-2007, 03:33 PM

It's not a direct rasic comment, but it still has some racism in there. I think Once Jade has been evicted, Danielle and Jo will be as nice as they were when they came into the house.

Diablo

18-01-2007, 03:33 PM

I dont think thats a racist comment just more stupidity.. but the F... off home comment, I think was racist

hass

18-01-2007, 03:34 PM

Originally posted by Diablo
Originally posted by hass
its not racism, i agree it was bullying last night when Jo and Danielle where laughing at the arguement but it was a stupid argument and because Shilpa is Indian, why do they whole *****ing world have to say its racist? What got said when Germaine called Jackie "white trash"? but when that phrase got mentioned on coronation street there was an uproar. When they both joined in on the argument, Shilpa said it was because she was Indian, i never heard Jade say its because she is british! this country is a joke and all the people who have complained about racism have got a chip on their shoulders! Im glad the carphone warehouse has stopped their sponsor ship, i hated that little phone! :nono:

I agree to an extent and I had been arguing the point that it was ignorance and stupidity rather than racism.. and then Danielle says Shilpa should **** off home... I cant argue the point anymore after that because I dont know how else that remark could be taken.. The white trash I think is just an american term for skallys like Jade....? I didnt find it offensive..

Yes she did say she should **** off home but she could of meant go back home to India. How is that racist? If someone said in America to me to go back home to England, i wouldnt take offence, but because she is of a different race, everyone thinks its racial. White trash is a term used to call impoverished white people, therefore i regard that as racist!!! but no, because Germaine is black, its ok!

James

18-01-2007, 03:35 PM

Bit off-topic but when everyone writes Germaine instead of Jermaine I think I'm reading about Germaine Greer! :hugesmile:

hass

18-01-2007, 03:35 PM

What about when Shilpa was taking the p*ss out of Jo when she was saying whale? Racist!

AndyJK

18-01-2007, 03:36 PM

I never liked the Carphone Warehouse ads anyway. I mean they're using the same from last year! Oh look a computer generated phone is getting waxed by some hotty with big tits. Oh my sides.

Bring back the flys from BB 2!

Diablo

18-01-2007, 03:37 PM

Originally posted by hass
What about when Shilpa was taking the p*ss out of Jo when she was saying whale? Racist!

I dont think the accent thing is racism.. I always laugh at the Bisto ad when the geordie says Propa Food n Propa Gravee.. however, I am not racist..

I dont think the girls imitating Shilpas accent was racism either..

Diablo

18-01-2007, 03:38 PM

Originally posted by AndyJK
I never liked the Carphone Warehouse ads anyway. I mean they're using the same from last year! Oh look a computer generated phone is getting waxed by some hotty with big tits. Oh my sides.

Bring back the flys from BB 2!

bring back Avid Merrion ads.. lol.. i thought he was fab doing the celebrity stalker..

James

18-01-2007, 03:38 PM

'F off home' is pretty offensive.

Anyway, this topic is about Carphone Warehouse, plenty of others about racism.

hass

18-01-2007, 03:38 PM

Exactly, so voice imitating is not racist, but arguing with an indian is deemed racist? what a joke this country is.

Diablo

18-01-2007, 03:41 PM

Originally posted by hass
Exactly, so voice imitating is not racist, but arguing with an indian is deemed racist? what a joke this country is.

I dont think arguing is racist.. and I have been saying this all along and then Danielle said F0ck off home so I cant deny that I think that was racist.. but I do think an awful lot of this has been blown out of proportion...

anyway.. back on topic.. the carphone warehouse ditch BB.... i cant say i'll even notice.. lol

ttw

18-01-2007, 03:45 PM

Originally posted by James
Bit off-topic but when everyone writes Germaine instead of Jermaine I think I'm reading about Germaine Greer! :hugesmile:

lol .....me too when I first saw it !:bigsmile:

AndyJK

18-01-2007, 03:47 PM

Originally posted by Diablo
Originally posted by AndyJK
I never liked the Carphone Warehouse ads anyway. I mean they're using the same from last year! Oh look a computer generated phone is getting waxed by some hotty with big tits. Oh my sides.

Bring back the flys from BB 2!

bring back Avid Merrion ads.. lol.. i thought he was fab doing the celebrity stalker..

I don't remember those. Still can't be any worse than the ones for BB 4.

Originally posted by James
Bit off-topic but when everyone writes Germaine instead of Jermaine I think I'm reading about Germaine Greer! :hugesmile:

Have you read what Germaine Greer has said about whats going on in the house? She really laid into Shilpa. If you're interested I could find the link.

sharpie

18-01-2007, 04:52 PM

meh, 3 million squids, that's pittens to them, lol.

Sticks

18-01-2007, 04:54 PM

Originally posted by Diablo
I agree to an extent and I had been arguing the point that it was ignorance and stupidity rather than racism.. and then Danielle says Shilpa should **** off home... I cant argue the point anymore after that because I dont know how else that remark could be taken..

I can and I have here (http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=53961&page=1#pid616658)

Now I know that this is outside of my brief, but even the "eff of home" jibe by Danielle has been made to be something it is not. It has been made to seem racist, or at least interpreted that way. When someone irritates you and provokes you, whether they are black, white, green or indigo with yellow polkadot spots, you want them to go away. You will want them to "go home". This is such an instinctive reaction, that not even Danielle recalled ever uttering the expression.

How many times have you said to someone "Just go home?"

Sasha

18-01-2007, 05:13 PM

www.carphonewarehouse.com (http://www.carphonewarehouse.com/commerce/servlet/gben-server-PageServer?ARTICLE=MAIN.UK.INTERNET.HELPINFO.COMPI NFO.CONTACTUS.DEFAULT)

Carphone warehouse statement

18th January 2007: The Carphone Warehouse Group (“Carphone Warehouse”) today announces that it is suspending its sponsorship of Channel 4’s Celebrity Big Brother programme.

Charles Dunstone, CEO of The Carphone Warehouse said:
“Our concern has rapidly mounted about the broadcast behaviour of individuals within the Big Brother house. We are totally against all forms of racism and bullying and indeed this behaviour is entirely at odds with the brand values of The Carphone Warehouse. As a result we feel that as long as this continues we are unable to associate our brand with the programme.

We had already made it clear to Channel 4 that were this to continue, we would have to consider our position. Nothing we saw last night gave us any comfort. Accordingly we have instructed Channel 4 to remove our sponsorship name and branding with immediate effect.”

Diablo

18-01-2007, 05:38 PM

Originally posted by Sticks
Originally posted by Diablo
I agree to an extent and I had been arguing the point that it was ignorance and stupidity rather than racism.. and then Danielle says Shilpa should **** off home... I cant argue the point anymore after that because I dont know how else that remark could be taken..

I can and I have here (http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=53961&page=1#pid616658)

Now I know that this is outside of my brief, but even the "eff of home" jibe by Danielle has been made to be something it is not. It has been made to seem racist, or at least interpreted that way. When someone irritates you and provokes you, whether they are black, white, green or indigo with yellow polkadot spots, you want them to go away. You will want them to "go home". This is such an instinctive reaction, that not even Danielle recalled ever uttering the expression.

How many times have you said to someone "Just go home?"

I dont recall saying that to anyone, i'd say leave me alone, or beat it or something.. lol .. but "just go home" is different to "I wish she would ***** off home"

sol

18-01-2007, 05:41 PM

Hopefully the suspension of the sponsorship of BB will truely be a suspension and they won't completely withdraw from the show.

lily.

18-01-2007, 05:42 PM

They wont withdraw Sol. By the time summer comes around and BB8 starts, they will all be falling over each other to sign up again.

Publicly withdrawing their sponsorship guarantees them so much publicity right now.

Diablo

18-01-2007, 05:43 PM

I dont think BB will have problems finding another sponser...

ttw

18-01-2007, 05:44 PM

Ruth

18-01-2007, 05:45 PM

Originally posted by hass
Yes she did say she should **** off home but she could of meant go back home to India. How is that racist? If someone said in America to me to go back home to England, i wouldnt take offence, but because she is of a different race, everyone thinks its racial. White trash is a term used to call impoverished white people, therefore i regard that as racist!!! but no, because Germaine is black, its ok!
I'm pretty sure that she did mean back to India!! How is that racist? She's implying that she doesn't want Indian people coming to this country.

Regarding the 'white trash' comment - I'm not sticking up for Jermaine because I like him or anything - I have become pretty indifferent to him actually - but I don't find that racist. Jackiey typifies the type of person which that phrase applies to.

arista

18-01-2007, 05:46 PM

Originally posted by Diablo
I dont think BB will have problems finding another sponser...

On E4
they are using the
4onDemand Promo for today.

Ruth

18-01-2007, 05:46 PM

Originally posted by Stropz
They wont withdraw Sol. By the time summer comes around and BB8 starts, they will all be falling over each other to sign up again.

Publicly withdrawing their sponsorship guarantees them so much publicity right now.

True.

Remember when Kate Moss got dropped from a lot of her contracts after the cocaine story broke? They all ended up working with her again, once the fuss had calmed down.

Siouxsie

18-01-2007, 05:55 PM

Originally posted by Edwin
Originally posted by Elz_Belz
Yeah exactly..But its gone to far now, If BB had sorted this out atthe first sign of bullying/Rasicm then it may all have been sorted by now.

Racism, they should have sorted out, but bullying has happenned in all series of BB so I don't see the problem. If Carphone Warehouse gave a tosh about bullying then they would have pulled out last year when Shabaz was bullied, but since they didn't have the press blowing it out of proportion they didn't have anything to fear. It's all about money.

I said exactly the same about shabaz

did pete burns not bully Jodie ?

Rory

19-01-2007, 12:56 AM

Carphone Warehouse is suspending its sponsorship of Channel 4’s reality TV show Celebrity Big Brother after growing concerns over racism and bullying on the show.

Carphone Warehouse chief executive Charles Dunstone said: “Our concern has rapidly mounted about the broadcast behaviour of individuals within the Big Brother house. We are totally against all forms of racism and bullying and this behaviour is entirely at odds with the brand values of Carphone Warehouse. As a result, we feel that as long as this continues we are unable to associate our brand with the programme.

“We had already made it clear to Channel 4 that, were this to continue, we would have to consider our position. Nothing we saw last night gave us any comfort. Accordingly, we have instructed Channel 4 to remove our sponsorship name and branding with immediate effect.”

The retailer has sponsored Big Brother since 2004, for an estimated £3 million a year. However, TV watchdog Ofcom has received a record 14,500 complaints about the treatment of Bollywood star Shilpa Shetty.

The allegations centre around housemates Jade Goody, Danielle Lloyd and Jo O'Meara, who have been accused of bullying Shetty and making racist taunts.

According to reports, The Perfume Shop has also announced that it will be suspending sales of Jade Goody’s perfume, called Shh… Jade Goody, while she remains in the Big Brother house.

link (http://www.retail-week.com/nav?page=retailweek.news.detail&resource=6353989)

That's the longest article I found, there were others but I think this one is the most in depth.

EDIT: This may be why the lines weren't opened up sooner, and why there weren't any Carphone Warehouse adverts.

backtherighthorse

19-01-2007, 01:46 AM

I maybe a cynic but notice the key wording "suspending". This indicates a definite hedge of their bets. If Jade can crawl out of this mess and ch4/endemol it will be back on. Guarantee. Perfect example: Kate Moss. Recently voted model of the year 2006. The brands that dumped her on the back of the drug scandal are kicking themselves. Don't be fooled. Even something as serious as racism can be glossed over and re-deemed with some serious PR. Look for the "I was Conned!" Headline in next issue of Heat (thos celeb sycophants - look up that word in wikipedia) If it blows over Jade will back to her supposedly dumb self, conning you out of money for fitness videoes.