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Niamh.
05-10-2015, 01:29 PM
Thoughts on this? I don't see anything wrong with it tbh :/

Perez Hilton sparks online backlash after posting picture in the shower with his son: Some brand it 'creepy' while others say there is 'nothing wrong' with parents bathing with their young children



Perez Hilton sparked an online backlash after sharing a snap of himself and his two-year-old son in the shower together.

The celebrity blogger, whose real name is Mario Lavanderia, posted the picture - where both he and Mario are grinning widely - on Instagram yesterday.

Alongside the snap, he wrote: ‘Our family motto is: #fun! We try and incorporate fun into as much of the everyday things we do! #Bathtime.’

And it didn’t take very long for others on social media to react strongly with comments suggesting the scenario is ‘kinda creepy’ and ‘odd’.

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Angrier comments said ‘this is child abuse’, while another user wrote: ‘IS THIS A JOKE THEY’RE BOTH NAKED’.

Perez replied to one comment, saying: ‘I had my bathing suit on, and I didn’t feel the need to clarify that in the caption.’

However, fans and fellow parents defended Hilton, with one writing: ‘It’s not wrong at all. They are father and son.’

Another said: ‘Only creepy if you’re not a parent!’

One follower told Hilton: ‘No need to explain yourself. Shorts or not, nudity is nothing to be ashamed of and it’s how we teach our children about our bodies.’
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Another added: ‘Parents often bathe with their young children. Now, if it continues when the child is beginning puberty, then that may be weird.’

Another said: 'Anyone who's a parent didn't see this as creepy because as adult parents we know the day-to-day life of raising children.'

Meanwhile Hilton told DailyMail.com: 'Everyone does what they see fit as a parent. Personally, I enjoy putting on my swim trunks and taking a shower with my son as often as possible.

'I'd rather do that than leave him unattended, which will not happen until he's older and I'm confident he can be safe alone.'

Mario, who was conceived using an egg donor and a surrogate mother, is Hilton's eldest child.

His daughter Mia was born in May this year, also via surrogate. Hilton remains single and is raising his children with the help of his mother and a nanny.

Soon after the birth of his daughter, he said he decided to become a father on his own because he ‘didn’t want to worry about a relationship of mine interfering with the happiness and well-being of my children'.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3259476/Perez-Hilton-sparks-online-backlash-posting-picture-shower-son-branding-creepy-say-wrong-parents-bathe-young-children.html#ixzz3nhSHsrHn
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kirklancaster
05-10-2015, 01:33 PM
FFS - Is there nothing innocent now beyond the toxic reach of the PC 'Police'? It is a perfectly normal photograph of an obviously doting dad with his kid. :shrug:

Suze
05-10-2015, 01:37 PM
FFS - Is there nothing innocent now beyond the toxic reach of the PC 'Police'? It is a perfectly normal photograph of an obviously doting dad with his kid. :shrug:


I agree Kirk. It is also a good way of keeping an eye on children that young when you can't really take your eyes off them for a minute where water is concerned.

Ammi
05-10-2015, 01:40 PM
..I think most parents have bathed with their young children, I did as well and also their dad did and I don't think it would be healthy personally for children to feel an awkwardness from their parents about it...they would pick up on that and could feel really self conscious themselves...that comes in time anyway as they get older and it comes naturally...is this because of CBB and because he was so much called a 'pervert' but also a bad parent if I recall..so everything he does now with his children is scrutinised to try to 'taint' it...mind you, even if I was a celebrity, I personally wouldn't make personal pictures like that, public to the media...

kirklancaster
05-10-2015, 01:41 PM
I agree Kirk. It is also a good way of keeping an eye on children that young when you can't really take your eyes off them for a minute where water is concerned.

True Suze. It's a feelgood happy photo if anything. Some cretins need to get a life and keep their noses and dirty minds out of other peoples lives.

Ammi
05-10-2015, 01:41 PM
..they look like two gorgeously happy children...:lovedup:...

Samuel.
05-10-2015, 01:46 PM
I don't like these "social media says" news articles, they never state how many actually complain and I wouldn't be at all surprised if DM just find the two or three negative comments and spin it as a story, obviously with the assumption as a reader that these comments represent a sizeable portion of the response.

Jessica.
05-10-2015, 01:49 PM
I don't like Perez but I think he should be praised for having enough thought process to wash his baby rather than being called creepy. :worry: I think the picture is quite cute actually, never thought I'd say that about a picture with Perez in it.

Northern Monkey
05-10-2015, 01:59 PM
Nothing wrong with it.As said in the OP,The only people who think it's weird are obvs not parents.
I don't do it but that's because there is'nt enough room in our bath for me and two boys,They bath together and play with their bath toys and we play pirates:laugh:.I can't see why it's weird or anything though.

The only creepy thing is Perez's face but that's always like that.

user104658
05-10-2015, 02:07 PM
Nothing wrong with it at all, it's just people projecting their own weird issues onto it. I went in the shower with mine all the time at that age :/.

Also, I wouldn't bathe / shower with my 5 year old, but I don't have a problem with her seeing me naked? Why would it be weird?

Ashley.
05-10-2015, 02:19 PM
The only thing wrong with the photo is the fact that Perez' face is in it. :fan:

Admittedly a bit of a weird place to take a photo but there's nothing disgusting about it.

Kyle
05-10-2015, 02:20 PM
This is what happens when you give morons a platform to speak and be seen.

Pre-Internet if somebody came out with something like one of those comments they'd get laughed out the room.

Black Dagger
05-10-2015, 02:22 PM
I fail to see the issue. Says more about them than him

Jamie89
05-10-2015, 03:31 PM
I can't believe this is a even a story.

Jake.
05-10-2015, 03:35 PM
Ridiculous, no problem with mums having baths with their children so this is no different

arista
05-10-2015, 03:41 PM
I fail to see the issue. Says more about them than him


must be because they hate gays

Crimson Dynamo
05-10-2015, 03:43 PM
The comments on social media will be from teens

Source name and age please or it should not be published

This is why we used to train journalists

LukeB
05-10-2015, 03:44 PM
nothing wrong with this tbh

Crimson Dynamo
05-10-2015, 03:45 PM
It is his blood kid, right?

Niamh.
05-10-2015, 03:45 PM
It is his blood kid, right?

I think so, I think he used a surrogate, didn't he?

Will.
05-10-2015, 03:47 PM
My dad and mum use to get in the bath with me up until I was like 4/5 I think.

Vanessa
05-10-2015, 03:47 PM
He was wearing his swimming shorts in there. I really don't see what the big deal is.

Niamh.
05-10-2015, 03:47 PM
He was wearing his swimming shorts in there. I really don't see what the big deal is.

Doesn't even matter if he wasn't anyway

Vanessa
05-10-2015, 03:48 PM
Doesn't even matter if he wasn't anyway

I agree.

Crimson Dynamo
05-10-2015, 03:50 PM
I think so, I think he used a surrogate, didn't he?

That's ok

If the kid was adopted and they were naked I woukd say no

Niamh.
05-10-2015, 03:51 PM
That's ok

If the kid was adopted and they were naked I woukd say no

Really? Why? You think adoptive parents should treat their kids different to biological ones?

Crimson Dynamo
05-10-2015, 03:53 PM
Really? Why? You think adoptive parents should treat their kids different to biological ones?

Yes in that specific respect I do.

smudgie
05-10-2015, 03:54 PM
Both son and daughter bathed naked with both hubby and I.
They will let you know when they become uncomfortable with it, I can still remember the first time our son went behind the sofa to put his pyjamas on.:bawling: All grown up overnight.

Niamh.
05-10-2015, 03:55 PM
Yes in that specific respect I do.

I don't see why unless you're a peadophile and in which case the fact that your related by blood or not probably wouldn't matter anyway :shrug:

Ninastar
05-10-2015, 03:56 PM
nothing wrong with it, but I think he knows fine that he'd cause a big fuss over it. Like I said, there's no problem with bathing with your kids whilst your young, but it's not exactly something you'd tell the world about.

Crimson Dynamo
05-10-2015, 03:57 PM
I don't see why unless you're a peadophile and in which case the fact that your related by blood or not probably wouldn't matter anyway :shrug:

I just think that with adopted children there should be rules (and hopefully they are) about acceptable behaviour with young children

Crimson Dynamo
05-10-2015, 03:58 PM
But who in their right mind would post a picture like this?

He is a rancid twat of the highest order

Niamh.
05-10-2015, 03:59 PM
I just think that with adopted children there should be rules (and hopefully they are) about acceptable behaviour with young children

Shouldn't accepted behaviour with young children by applicable to all kids, not just adopted ones? Again, I don't understand what your issue would be with it unless the parent was actually a pedo and that wouldn't be good for either an adopted or biological child. When you adopt a baby, you're either their parent or your not :/

Crimson Dynamo
05-10-2015, 04:01 PM
Shouldn't accepted behaviour with young children by applicable to all kids, not just adopted ones? Again, I don't understand what your issue would be with it unless the parent was actually a pedo and that wouldn't be good for either an adopted or biological child. When you adopt a baby, you're either their parent or your not :/

You are the parent but not the blood parent and will never be so there should be different rules and hopefully they are.

Niamh.
05-10-2015, 04:03 PM
You are the parent but not the blood parent and will never be so there should be different rules and hopefully they are.

Still not following your reasoning behind this and what other rules would you be thinking of?

Marsh.
05-10-2015, 04:05 PM
He's the kid's dad. There's nothing creepy about it at all. :umm2:

Now, posting it on social media is another thing altogether but then I'm not one for posting every breath I take on twitter.

But fgs, mum's will only be allowed to bathe their kids with marigolds and blindfolds if this PC crap doesn't stop.

Marsh.
05-10-2015, 04:07 PM
You are the parent but not the blood parent and will never be so there should be different rules and hopefully they are.

I can see an argument for that when someone adopts an already grown child but when they're adopted from birth then they are effectively the only parent that child has known so is no different to a blood relationship IMO.

Anyway, it doesn't apply to Perez because he's the biological father of these kids.

Niamh.
05-10-2015, 04:08 PM
I can see an argument for that when someone adopts an already grown child but when they're adopted from birth then they are effectively the only parent that child has known so is no different to a blood relationship IMO.

Anyway, it doesn't apply to Perez because he's the biological father of these kids.

Yeah exactly

Ammi
05-10-2015, 04:12 PM
..the same as with maternity leave when someone is having a child, adoptive parents also have a similar bonding leave...(in fact it's a longer time in some cases..).. and are encouraged to form all natural child/parent bonds as if they were the biological parents ...

Marsh.
05-10-2015, 04:15 PM
..the same as with maternity leave when someone is having a child, adoptive parents also have a similar bonding leave...(in fact it's a longer time in some cases..).. and are encouraged to form all natural child/parent bonds as if they were the biological parents ...

Yeah. I can't imagine putting any "rules" or barriers in place would help adoptive families to form a real familial relationship, which would be completely unfair.

Xtopher
05-10-2015, 04:19 PM
This is so normal. people are just being ridiculous.

Ammi
05-10-2015, 04:27 PM
Yeah. I can't imagine putting any "rules" or barriers in place would help adoptive families to form a real familial relationship, which would be completely unfair.

..obviously it would be different/the opposite really with foster parents but not with adoptive parents as although they're not 'biological'...(I know Perez is..)...they're the child's natural parent in terms of every other aspect of their lives.../except genes...

Dollface
05-10-2015, 04:44 PM
It's not creepy at all, and this is coming from someone who doesn't like Perez

Dollface
05-10-2015, 04:45 PM
I can see an argument for that when someone adopts an already grown child but when they're adopted from birth then they are effectively the only parent that child has known so is no different to a blood relationship IMO.

Anyway, it doesn't apply to Perez because he's the biological father of these kids.

:clap1:

Liam-
05-10-2015, 04:49 PM
The showering with his son is fine, I'm a little bit iffy about posting pictures of it on twitter however.

Crimson Dynamo
05-10-2015, 04:51 PM
I remember having a shower with my sister-in-law and all the bloody hoo Haa that caused so I am not surprised really

, :idc:

Ammi
05-10-2015, 04:52 PM
I remember having a shower with my sister-in-law and all the bloody hoo Haa that caused so I am not surprised really

, :idc:

...that's because she didn't adopt you first though...

Crimson Dynamo
05-10-2015, 04:54 PM
...that's because she didn't adopt you first though...

No I did her first

Cherie
05-10-2015, 04:54 PM
I see no problem with it, I never got in the bath with mine though, it never crossed my mind to :shrug: there was no room at any rate as they were generally in the bath at the same time

Jamesy
05-10-2015, 04:59 PM
The kid looks young enough for it to be perfectly fine. Posting it online is a bit pointless though.

The whole "online backlash" is probably a load of rubbish. You always see articles like this that generalize with "everyone's angry with this..." or "the internet is furious with...". A load of rubbish made to get clicks on websites.

Crimson Dynamo
05-10-2015, 05:00 PM
I just threw my ones in the river with a bar of soap

Marsh.
05-10-2015, 05:10 PM
I remember having a shower with my sister-in-law and all the bloody hoo Haa that caused so I am not surprised really

, :idc:

:joker::joker::joker::joker::joker:

DemolitionRed
05-10-2015, 06:49 PM
He was wearing his swimming shorts in there. I really don't see what the big deal is.

Even if he wasn't wearing swimming shorts, there's no problem. Small children don't care about their parents nudity any more than the parent cares about their child's nudity.


Sadly, I think this is just another case of people relating gays with pedos. He's not safe naked with his child because he's a gay pervert :shrug:

Kazanne
05-10-2015, 06:54 PM
I am no Perez fan , but really ,I see nothing wrong with this at all ,the world gets crazier.He's TWO years old for Gods sake

kirklancaster
05-10-2015, 07:08 PM
I just threw my ones in the river with a bar of soap

:laugh: That's Life Buoy. :hehe:

letmein
05-10-2015, 09:22 PM
The only issue is Perez Hilton has kids.

MTVN
05-10-2015, 09:40 PM
Very creepy, hope the authorities are keeping a keen eye on this weirdo

MB.
05-10-2015, 09:42 PM
You wouldn't see Katie Hopkins take a shower with one of her children. She'd melt if she came into contact with water.

Black Dagger
05-10-2015, 09:44 PM
The only issue is Perez Hilton has kids.

Yet he seems like a very capable father. Who are you to critique his parenting skills.

susie q
05-10-2015, 10:03 PM
..I think most parents have bathed with their young children, I did as well and also their dad did and I don't think it would be healthy personally for children to feel an awkwardness from their parents about it...they would pick up on that and could feel really self conscious themselves...that comes in time anyway as they get older and it comes naturally...is this because of CBB and because he was so much called a 'pervert' but also a bad parent if I recall..so everything he does now with his children is scrutinised to try to 'taint' it...mind you, even if I was a celebrity, I personally wouldn't make personal pictures like that, public to the media...

I bathed with mine to, as did my parents, all quite natural. I wouldnt make pictures of it public either

Marsh.
05-10-2015, 10:12 PM
I still bathe with my parents. Saves on the hot water.

LukeB
05-10-2015, 10:35 PM
I still bathe with my parents. Saves on the hot water.

:joker:

MB.
05-10-2015, 10:40 PM
I still bathe with my parents. Saves on the hot water.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/35/Motherbatesmummy.jpg/225px-Motherbatesmummy.jpg

Marsh.
05-10-2015, 10:41 PM
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/35/Motherbatesmummy.jpg/225px-Motherbatesmummy.jpg

My mother looks good for her age. :nono:

Rob!
05-10-2015, 11:22 PM
The whole thing is ****ing ridiculous. Of course a father should share a bath with their young son, why would anything else be happening?

Perez has brought it on himself though. If he came across as remotely normal human being, nobody would have raised an eyebrow.

lostalex
06-10-2015, 01:02 AM
That's ok

If the kid was adopted and they were naked I woukd say no

you do realize that the vast majority of child molestation is committed by biological family members, right? So i don't see your point about adopted kids.

letmein
06-10-2015, 05:13 AM
Yet he seems like a very capable father.

He's not capable as he's unstable. That behavior has been displayed for years.

lostalex
06-10-2015, 07:14 AM
He's not capable as he's unstable. That behavior has been displayed for years.

hmmmm, OR he was paid to play a part on a TV show and he did what he was paid to do... are you really making a judgement on someone based on how they act on an edited TV show where they pay people to act crazy? Do you think Anthony Hopkins is actually a Cannibal serial killer?

Niamh.
06-10-2015, 09:07 AM
you do realize that the vast majority of child molestation is committed by biological family members, right? So i don't see your point about adopted kids.

Exactly. Making "rules" like this for parents who adopt a baby is only going to make bonding difficult, it's ridiculous

Crimson Dynamo
06-10-2015, 09:15 AM
maybe its because its him I think that way

in general to post a pic like that online tells me he is not a good father, quite the opposite

lostalex
06-10-2015, 09:19 AM
Exactly. Making "rules" like this for parents who adopt a baby is only going to make bonding difficult, it's ridiculous

exactly. and if someone was molesting their kids, would they really post nude pics on social media??? It's the people who react like "omg that's so gross and perverted!" those are the people that you should worry about. "thou doth protest too much"

Niamh.
06-10-2015, 09:19 AM
maybe its because its him I think that way

in general to post a pic like that online tells me he is not a good father, quite the opposite

Lots of parents do s**t like that on FB all the time. Doesn't make them bad parents. I'm not a fan of that type thing myself but I wouldn't call someone a bad parent because of it either

Niamh.
06-10-2015, 09:20 AM
exactly. and if someone was molesting their kids, would they really post nude pics on social media??? It's the people who react like "omg that's so gross and perverted!" that you should worry about.

Yeah that's true. They wouldn't be advertising the fact that they'd just molested their kid, that's for sure!

Crimson Dynamo
06-10-2015, 09:22 AM
Lots of parents do s**t like that on FB all the time. Doesn't make them bad parents. I'm not a fan of that type thing myself but I wouldn't call someone a bad parent because of it either

M'lud I call exhibit 3a A picture of a small child in a washing machine...

Niamh.
06-10-2015, 09:24 AM
M'lud I call exhibit 3a A picture of a small child in a washing machine...

You should be glad that Perez is washing his kid in the shower and not the washing machine, surely? :hehe:

Crimson Dynamo
06-10-2015, 09:27 AM
You should be glad that Perez is washing his kid in the shower and not the washing machine, surely? :hehe:

that will be next


its not the pic that is creepy its him

lostalex
06-10-2015, 09:27 AM
I saw my parents nude plenty of times, they were children of the 60's....i wish i hadn't, of course it's gross seeing adult normal bodies naked especially your parents when you are a kid, but i certainly don't consider it abuse! i just thought it was gross.

and i got really bored of my dad telling me the same story of his ass tattoo from his days in the navy over and over and over again.... (he thought it was so cool, sorry dad but hearing you tell the same story about how your navy buddies made you get a peace sign tattoo'd on your ass after losing a bet gets old after the 50th time)

I do like peace signs though... hmmm, coincidence??? :hehe: