Looking back what a dreadful series

[mrmattybeck1]

Did anyone actually enjoy this series

[Jake.]

you don't need to look back to realise that

[Jason.]

Looking back?

It was dreadful at the time

[Mitchell]

I really enjoyed it, a lot more enjoyable than all of C5's civilians except for 14.

[Daniel.]

It was the worst ever for me after 12.

The CBB's this year have both been great though :love:

[Marsh.]

Decent first two weeks or so then one big fat flop mess of a show.

[RichardG]

you don't need to look back to realise that

Yeah I was gonna say the same :laugh: It was painfully obvious while it was airing just how bad a series it was. Total mess the whole way through.

[Xtopher]

I miss Marc and Eileen.

[Merry Mockmas]

Decent first two weeks or so then one big fat flop mess of a show.

I agree with this.

[Jamesy]

It was lining up to be a great series until 4in4out, then it became worse than BB15 if that was even possible.

[Daniel.]

The first two weeks were boring sorry

[ChristmasNeeve]

It was lining up to be a great series until 4in4out, then it became worse than BB15 if that was even possible.

Yeah i agree with that. getting rid of 4 so early on and then sending the past HMs as well killed the series

[Jason.]

The first two weeks are only boring if you find constant drama/arguments entertaining. I personally enjoyed the first two weeks of BB16 as they were very reminiscent of the C4 days and it was all natural without any meddling, which was quite refreshing for a series which followed BB15 and CBB15 which were the complete opposite of that.

[ChristmasNeeve]

The first two weeks are only boring if you find constant drama/arguments entertaining. I personally enjoyed the first two weeks of BB16 as they were very reminiscent of the C4 days and it was all natural without any meddling, which was quite refreshing for a series which followed BB15 and CBB15 which were the complete opposite of that.

Yes absolutely agree. I'd really like to see a series that just lets relationships/arguments etc develop naturally. They're making it too much like TOWIE nowadays.

[Daniel.]

No it was boring because nothing of interest happened

[Daniel.]

The latest CBB had natural drama

[Alf]

The good old days are gone and are never coming back.

You will watch what the producers want to edit for you to watch and you will like it or lump it.

That's the way it is, know your place.

[ChristmasNeeve]

The latest CBB had natural drama

ish....Janice, farrah and Austin are professional Reality Stars, i don't believe for a second that most of their dramas weren't thought out

[ChristmasNeeve]

The good old days are gone and are never coming back.

You will watch what the producers want to edit for you to watch and you will like it or lump it.

That's the way it is, know your place.

:bawling:

[Jason.]

Yes absolutely agree. I'd really like to see a series that just lets relationships/arguments etc develop naturally. They're making it too much like TOWIE nowadays.

:clap1:

These days it's more of an entertainment show rather than a reality show (which it used to be). I love drama and arguments as much as anyone else does but if it's being manufactured by the producers meddling instead of natural relationships between the other housemates, then I might as well watch TOWIE or any other scripted reality show.

[Daniel.]

ish....Janice, farrah and Austin are professional Reality Stars, i don't believe for a second that most of their dramas weren't thought out

Either way it didnt rely on BB to start it off like in BB16

[ChristmasNeeve]

:clap1:

These days it's more of an entertainment show rather than a reality show (which it used to be). I love drama and arguments as much as anyone else does but if it's being manufactured by the producers meddling instead of natural relationships between the other housemates, then I might as well watch TOWIE or any other scripted reality show.

Is there any "Reality" TV shows left that are actually reality and not just entertainment? Maybe The Voice, probably why I watch that and not X Factor anymore

Either way it didnt rely on BB to start it off like in BB16

And I can get over it when it's CBB but I want normal BB to be more normal

[Jason.]

^

Probably IAC, although that's now starting to go downhill over the past few years.

Actually no, I can't think of anything :worry:

[Daniel.]

Bad Girls Club ofc

[Jason.]

CBB16 was an improvement on the last 4 series we've had in the last year or so. Although that Jarrah secret room was another example of meddling from the producers part to create more drama which backfired.

[Daniel.]

There wasnt much in CBB15 either

Also BB14 started it all off

[Jason.]

CBB15 was the epitome of producer meddling. :umm2:

[Daniel.]

I cant remember any except Perez secret room?

Remind me please.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

I enjoyed it, thanks to the lovely Christian. What a cutie!

[Jason.]

Perez Secret Room
Alexander's walking/ejection (whatever it was, it wasn't shown to us and hidden from viewers)
Begging Perez to stay in on numerous occasions after him wanting to walk
Tasks which involve what housemates previously said about each other in the DR
Constant little/useless twists, such as the King and Queen thing, KP's nomination thing

Showing the footage of Perez in the Secret Room to the main house after he came back (the parts where he spoke badly about Cami and Hopkins ) - which erupted into an argument (producers got what they wanted) tick.

Final pass/eternal nomination = BB15 Final pass and Killer nomination

[Daniel.]

Thanks

Did CBB13 and CBB14 have much? Obviously BB15 did :think:

[Jason.]

CBB14 didn't have much twists like BB15 did, but it was centered solely on conflict as well two housemates. I think CBB14 toned down, but it was a tiresome drag with the whole house picking on Gary storyline.

CBB13 did too. But it was done in a smart way and it wasn't centered around arguments 24/7 (BB15). You had Jim and Linda (enemies) being paired together or even cast in the same series, the secret room, Jasmine's nomination thing (where she saved Linda and Casey :joker:) That's all I can think of, tbh.

TBH I think every series since the show has moved to C5 has had some sort of meddling in one way or another. I mean they even had meddling on C4, but C5 just take it too far and it's always about creating fake drama which is tiring.

[Daniel.]

BB13 literally had nothing, no secret room, only one nominations twist.

CBB11 and BB14 started it which is why it annoys me when people say BB4 felt like a C4 series. It really didn't. :umm2:

[Jason.]

Yeah, but with BB14 it was new and it wasn't 100% conflict like BB15 and CBB15. I think meddling only worked well in CBB13 and BB14, but C5 have now made a habit of it.

Yeah, BB13 is brilliant.

[Daniel.]

BB14 was all trying to cause conflict, letting Gina and Dexter spy, giving Gna the queen bee task KNOWING she would se it on Hazel, showing nominations constantly, face to face ones around four times, the secret puppet or whatever, putting Daley and Hazel in the safe house together. It was just as bad as BB15, they were just lucky the BB14 cast was better than BB15's.

[Jason.]

BB14 was all trying to cause conflict, letting Gina and Dexter spy, giving Gna the queen bee task KNOWING she would se it on Hazel, showing nominations constantly, face to face ones around four times, the secret puppet or whatever, putting Daley and Hazel in the safe house together. It was just as bad as BB15, they were just lucky the BB14 cast was better than BB15's.

come to think of it, that's true.

[ChristmasNeeve]

BB14 was all trying to cause conflict, letting Gina and Dexter spy, giving Gna the queen bee task KNOWING she would se it on Hazel, showing nominations constantly, face to face ones around four times, the secret puppet or whatever, putting Daley and Hazel in the safe house together. It was just as bad as BB15, they were just lucky the BB14 cast was better than BB15's.

Yep, this why they've had so many ejections too over the last few years

[Jason.]

Yeah this actually true. Ironically, BB15 didn't have any

[ChristmasNeeve]

Yeah this actually true. Ironically, BB15 didn't have any

Helen should have been, she only got like 700 warnings or something :laugh:

[Daniel.]

I actually think BB15 could have been good if Helen went around week three

[Liam-]

I quite enjoyed it, Marc Jade and Joel helped make it better, the time warp twist went on for too long, but that's a minor blip in my eyes, the last week was decent enough with the whole money thing and the first 2 weeks were amazing, it wasn't anywhere close to being one of the best, but it's nowhere near the worst.

[Jason.]

I actually think BB15 could have been good if Helen went around week three

I actually agree. I think she'd be more popular as she wouldn't have been a knob for 10 weeks, dominate the series, and end up winning the thing which left a bad aftertaste.

Although, there was far more wrong with BB15 than just Helen and the cast. The production for that series was absymal. The theme Power Trip was a bad idea from the moment they suggested it.

[Daniel.]

I quite enjoyed it, Marc Jade and Joel helped make it better, the time warp twist went on for too long, but that's a minor blip in my eyes, the last week was decent enough with the whole money thing and the first 2 weeks were amazing, it wasn't anywhere close to being one of the best, but it's nowhere near the worst.

Marc and Joel were the two worst, for me.

[Jason.]

Did Joel even play a big role in BB16 for him to be considered one of the reasons why BB16 can be enjoyable? :shrug:

All I remember about him is him getting flashed :worry:

[Daniel.]

I actually agree. I think she'd be more popular as she wouldn't have been a knob for 10 weeks, dominate the series, and end up winning the thing which left a bad aftertaste.

Although, there was far more wrong with BB15 than just Helen and the cast. The production for that series was absymal. The theme Power Trip was a bad idea from the moment they suggested it.

I agree, if Helen went when Toya did I would probably appreciate her like I do Alexandra because they didn't take up the series and brought drama whilst there.

People like Helen, Perez and Farrah are all cut from the same cloth and are good for a couple of weeks but any more than that is tiresome.

[Daniel.]

Did Joel even play a big role in BB16 for him to be considered one of the reasons why BB16 can be enjoyable? :shrug:

All I remember about him is him getting flashed :worry:

I remember loathing him with a passion

[Liam-]

Joel was amazing, every time he was shown he made me crease, maybe it's a Welsh thing idk

[Jason.]

I agree, if Helen went when Toya did I would probably appreciate her like I do Alexandra because they didn't take up the series and brought drama whilst there.

People like Helen, Perez and Farrah are all cut from the same cloth and are good for a couple of weeks but any more than that is tiresome.

tbh

I actually agree (even though Helen was worse in Week 1-3). Although, I grew to like Farrah in her last week, so had she left in Week 1, I would've hated her.

It's sort of like Sallie Axl going first (she left too soon sort of thing) when in reality, it's better to have people wishing you stayed in longer than wishing you didn't win if that makes sense.

[Daniel.]

Farrah was ok in her last week yeah, and BB didn't let her overtake the series like they let Helen and Perez so I like her much more than them two, even if Perez did make me laugh on occasion.

Sallie was great though I though, I don't think she's the same as the three I mentioned at all, she actually got on with most people and only argued with Gina, Dexter and Michael.

[mrmattybeck1]

Same I was enjoying it till 4in4 out

[Pete.]

Joel was AWFUL

[Ramsay]

A posh guy slut droppin' HILARIOUS

[nonstop]

It didn't happen, okay, this series is a myth.

[Luke_Thomas_Patton]

Preferred it to BB12 and 15, the only highlights I can remember from the first two weeks were the twins moaning about eggs and the first shopping task which was brilliant! The series got BETTER immediately after 4in4out. There was ENDLESS twists etc but I loved the time warp and the hotel task. My favourites were Marc and Jade.

[Daniel.]

Harrowing

http://cdn.thisisbigbrother.com/signaturepics/sigpic94532_1.gif

[mrmattybeck1]

☺

[uniquedude]

BB13 literally had nothing, no secret room, only one nominations twist.

CBB11 and BB14 started it which is why it annoys me when people say BB4 felt like a C4 series. It really didn't. :umm2:

Wasn't bb14 bascially channel 5's take on bb7? It really was like bb6/7 in terms of meddling.

You had Gina as Nikki. You had the secret room that helped two goddesses get to third place.

[iRyan]

The first two weeks, for me, it had the potential to be one of the best series of Big Brother ever. There was a fantastic and refreshing dynamic among the housemates, it was funny, entertaining and had drama without being overly dark/negative.

Aaron's ejection was a joke and 4in4out was the biggest production mistake/worst twist in Big Brother history in my opinion. It completely killed the vibe. The 4 they evicted were all extremely likable and entertaining. I still don't ****ing get what the point was. Eileen & Jade were the only remaining hope for the series and then they were sent right out the door next. Utterly disastrous and so messy. It wasn't as bad as BB12 though, i'll give it that.

Had the 4in4out never happened and they just added Harry & Marc around Week 4, it would have been an amazing series, guaranteed.

[Macie Lightfoot]

so should Aaron not have been ejected for rubbing his penis on someone

[TomC]

The first two weeks, for me, it had the potential to be one of the best series of Big Brother ever. There was a fantastic and refreshing dynamic among the housemates, it was funny, entertaining and had drama without being overly dark/negative.

Aaron's ejection was a joke and 4in4out was the biggest production mistake/worst twist in Big Brother history in my opinion. It completely killed the vibe. The 4 they evicted were all extremely likable and entertaining. I still don't ****ing get what the point was. Eileen & Jade were the only remaining hope for the series and then they were sent right out the door next. Utterly disastrous and so messy. It wasn't as bad as BB12 though, i'll give it that.

Had the 4in4out never happened and they just added Harry & Marc around Week 4, it would have been an amazing series, guaranteed.

Yeah flipping noms and evicting 4 literally added zilch. Surely a series which is so heavily manipulated and messy as BB16 automatically comes last? That's my rationale. No matter how entertaining the characters/tasks were, if production **** it up it goes to the bottom

[zakman440]

I wrote a bit about Timebomb in my blog:

A breath of fresh air was certainly needed after such a whirlwind of a series. Alas, May rolled around with the announcement of Big Brother: Timebomb – an interesting idea for a theme to say the least, made more interesting by the fact that it was launching a month earlier than usual. A glossy advert and a steampunk-inspired eye had my hyped up for this launch. But it was a bit flat to be honest. One by one the housemates went in, until the obligatory launch night twist was announced. After being teased as a “Big Brother first”, SHOWBIZZZZZ Simon ended up being evicted after only being in the house for around half an hour. A predictable yet sad twist of fate. Yet, it was alright as the series got off to a good start. The first two weeks were a breather from the drama-heavy Power Trip series from last year. A lack of twists, manufactured conflict and some fun tasks were very enjoyable to watch. Unfortunately, viewing figures did not agree, with the series rating much lower than the year before.

Then it happened. What can only be described as one of the worst nights of Big Brother history, the #4In4Out fiasco was a desperate attempt to claw back viewers. Originally, the housemates nominated normally in the Diary Room as usual. However, it actually turned out that Jack McDermott (who had topped a popularity poll the week before and turned down the chance to walk away from the show in exchange for a car) was to be told that those who were nominated were actually immune, and that those who weren’t nominated were up for eviction. It was then announced to viewers that 4 housemates would be evicted, and 4 housemates would be going in. Everyone’s first reaction: “why?” It made no sense to do this after the great atmosphere in the house, yet the producer’s mentality was exposed in one simple quote from Emma Willis on the night “You were all being nice so we had to do something”. The night itself was an utter shambles. All I’ll say is that I hope the Timebomb Machine burns in hell.


#4In4Out sort of set the precedent for one of the most shambolic series of civilian Big Brother I’ve ever seen. Constant nominations twists, more outside contact, manufactured conflict and the return of Helen *******ing Wood do not make for a good series in my book. Yes, it had some fun moments, but all of that was overshadowed by the constant nastiness brought in by producers. Thankfully, the controller of Channel 5 Ben Frow has now banned Helen Wood from any of its programmes but for me it’s a case of too little too late. It was also the first series in the UK franchise to feature no regular set of nominations – an absolute shambles. Anyway, Chloe Wilburn won the near £116,000 jackpot (the largest cash pot in the show’s history, but down from the original £150,000), but unfortunately the damage to the series was already done – it was the lowest rating in the show’s history. I can only hope that the producers have learnt from the many, many mistakes made in this series so that they never repeat themselves again.

TL;DR – I didn’t like Timebomb that much.

I also wrote about 2015's other two series if you'd like to give the whole post a read: https://zakman440.wordpress.com/2015/12/14/big-brothers-big-review-2015/

[TomC]

I wrote a bit about Timebomb in my blog:



I also wrote about 2015's other two series if you'd like to give the whole post a read: https://zakman440.wordpress.com/2015/12/14/big-brothers-big-review-2015/

You've summed it up quite nicely, and I share lots of your opinions. I too was hyped up for launch, but it wasn't the launch itself that was the disappointment, it was the following 2 weeks. Now, my memory is somewhat hazy, but I remember it being really boring. Like more boring than any other BB series I've seen.

And the amount of twists was just ridiculous. We needed more bloody nominations! It made BB15 look amazing in comparison.

I really hope they stick to the rules more this summer, but in terms of nominations, this series of CBB has been almost as bad as BB16 in my book, so I;m not holding out for much.

Also, something that occurred to me was that all of the interesting originals, who were a pretty dull group to start with were evicted in the first 6 weeks, and then the four newbies were culled, leaving us with the worst of the original bad bunch as our final six. I still think that the six HMs who made it to the final last year were amongst the worst of last year's lot.

[Pete.]

That 4in4out write out is so truthful

[Oaker]

The first two weeks of BB16 weren't boring at all, they were two of C5's best ever BB weeks imo

All of the girls were amazing and the males were at least tolerable at that point (Apart from Danny, Jack and Cristian). Even the tasks were pretty good, and Face-to-Face nominations never bothered me because at least they actually did nominations in some form.

The shopping task in the dark room has to be one of C5's best as well :love:

[TomC]

The first two weeks of BB16 weren't boring at all, they were two of C5's best ever BB weeks imo

All of the girls were amazing and the males were at least tolerable at that point (Apart from Danny, Jack and Cristian). Even the tasks were pretty good, and Face-to-Face nominations never bothered me because at least they actually did nominations in some form.

The shopping task in the dark room has to be one of C5's best as well :love:

Sarah was ****.

There were too many conflict-breeding tasks.

But there only were four sets of nominations, that's the point. And they changed the rules in the fourth set to get Jack up.

Also I forgot Sam's eviction :omgno:

[Jason.]

You've summed it up quite nicely, and I share lots of your opinions. I too was hyped up for launch, but it wasn't the launch itself that was the disappointment, it was the following 2 weeks. Now, my memory is somewhat hazy, but I remember it being really boring. Like more boring than any other BB series I've seen.

And the amount of twists was just ridiculous. We needed more bloody nominations! It made BB15 look amazing in comparison.

I really hope they stick to the rules more this summer, but in terms of nominations, this series of CBB has been almost as bad as BB16 in my book, so I;m not holding out for much.

Also, something that occurred to me was that all of the interesting originals, who were a pretty dull group to start with were evicted in the first 6 weeks, and then the four newbies were culled, leaving us with the worst of the original bad bunch as our final six. I still think that the six HMs who made it to the final last year were amongst the worst of last year's lot.

I don't really get the BIB tbh. I found the first two weeks of BB16 brilliant and such a refreshing start to a series given it followed BB15 and CBB15 - two series where screaming matches, constant drama and negativity, and mass producer meddling was rife. The first two weeks of BB16 were the complete opposite, there was a good mixture of fun, tasks, and normal conversation with everyone getting a fair edit and not being overshadowed by two people constantly screaming at each other, and there was a bit of drama, but not too much that it became draining or dark.

I don't get it when people slate the first two weeks of BB16 for being boring because nothing happened (usually equating to there not enough drama lbr), but then also dislike a series like BB15 - which was rife with the sort of thing they say the first two weeks of BB16 lacked.

[Oaker]

Sarah was ****.

There were too many conflict-breeding tasks.

But there only were four sets of nominations, that's the point. And they changed the rules in the fourth set to get Jack up.

Also I forgot Sam's eviction :omgno:

Sarah probably was the weakest female, but she was still better than like half of BB15's female cast so that's saying something about how much the casting improved.

How did they change the rules to get Jack up? I don't actually remember tbh, but yeah, there were too many awful nominations twists.

Sam's eviction sucked but then again that was when BB16 was awful anyway so it didn't matter.

[Oaker]

I don't really get the BIB tbh. I found the first two weeks of BB16 brilliant and such a refreshing start to a series given it followed BB15 and CBB15 - two series where screaming matches, constant drama and negativity, and mass producer meddling was rife. The first two weeks of BB16 were the complete opposite, there was a good mixture of fun, tasks, and normal conversation with everyone getting a fair edit and not being overshadowed by two people constantly screaming at each other, and there was a bit of drama, but not too much that it became draining or dark.

I don't get it when people slate the first two weeks of BB16 for being boring because nothing happened (usually equating to there not enough drama lbr), but then also dislike a series like BB15 - which was rife with the sort of thing they say the first two weeks of BB16 lacked.

:clap1:

[TomC]

I don't really get the BIB tbh. I found the first two weeks of BB16 brilliant and such a refreshing start to a series given it followed BB15 and CBB15 - two series where screaming matches, constant drama and negativity, and mass producer meddling was rife. The first two weeks of BB16 were the complete opposite, there was a good mixture of fun, tasks, and normal conversation with everyone getting a fair edit and not being overshadowed by two people constantly screaming at each other, and there was a bit of drama, but not too much that it became draining or dark.

I don't get it when people slate the first two weeks of BB16 for being boring because nothing happened (usually equating to there not enough drama lbr), but then also dislike a series like BB15 - which was rife with the sort of thing they say the first two weeks of BB16 lacked.

I think the quickest way for me to answer this is that I liked the drama that BB15 served. That's the kind of BB I'm into :laugh:

[TomC]

I don't really get the BIB tbh. I found the first two weeks of BB16 brilliant and such a refreshing start to a series given it followed BB15 and CBB15 - two series where screaming matches, constant drama and negativity, and mass producer meddling was rife. The first two weeks of BB16 were the complete opposite, there was a good mixture of fun, tasks, and normal conversation with everyone getting a fair edit and not being overshadowed by two people constantly screaming at each other, and there was a bit of drama, but not too much that it became draining or dark.

I don't get it when people slate the first two weeks of BB16 for being boring because nothing happened (usually equating to there not enough drama lbr), but then also dislike a series like BB15 - which was rife with the sort of thing they say the first two weeks of BB16 lacked.

I think the quickest way for me to answer this is that I liked the drama that BB15 served. That's the kind of BB I'm into :laugh:

[TomC]

Sarah probably was the weakest female, but she was still better than like half of BB15's female cast so that's saying something about how much the casting improved.

How did they change the rules to get Jack up? I don't actually remember tbh, but yeah, there were too many awful nominations twists.

Sam's eviction sucked but then again that was when BB16 was awful anyway so it didn't matter.

I disagree that Sarah was better than half of the BB15 females. Sarah failed to deliver on her VT, was a total bitch to Joel and tried to set up a showmance with that horrid creature.

Well I mean they changed the rules every noms I guess. What would have made the other noms twists bearable (bar 4in4out obvs) would be if they had a consistent rule when they actually did nominations.

Sam's eviction was an abomination - definitely one of the worst twists ever.

[Jason.]

I think the quickest way for me to answer this is that I liked the drama that BB15 served. That's the kind of BB I'm into :laugh:

Oh that makes more sense then. :laugh: I just assumed you hated BB15 (cause well everybody does) and I know a few people who go on about how BB15 was crap but then also say the first 2 weeks of BB16 was crap, and it just seems contradictory. But if you're a fan of constant arguments and drama, then I can understand why BB16 (the first few weeks) would be seen as dull.

For me, I love drama as much as everybody else, but it needs to be natural and the characters have to be good for it to be successful. It's one of the reasons I love BB6 and BB13 - both quite nasty and volatile series which were filled with drama but it worked because they had a good and entertaining cast which came together well, with BB15 the cast were just insipid and lacked the charisma BB13's cast had for instance.

[TomC]

Oh that makes more sense then. :laugh: I just assumed you hated BB15 (cause well everybody does) and I know a few people who go on about how BB15 was crap but then also say the first 2 weeks of BB16 was crap, and it just seems contradictory. But if you're a fan of constant haarguments and drama, then I can understand why BB16 (the first few weeks) would be seen as dull.

For me, I love drama as much as everybody else, but it needs to be natural and the characters have to be good for it to be successful. It's one of the reasons I love BB6 and BB13 - both quite nasty and volatile series which were filled with drama but it worked because they had a good and entertaining cast which came together well, with BB15 the cast were just insipid and lacked the charisma BB13's cast had for instance.

Yeah I see what you're saying. I don't think BB15 was a good series but it was superior to BB16. But I do love drama and a hostile dynamic - for example, CBB13 seems quite pedestrian in comparison to the current CBB.

Bb6 I took a while to get into. I think it takes a while to appreciate its magic. Yes the characters as people are vile and the house is hostile and nasty but once you get past that and realise how crazy and entertaining the HMs are to watch, it's amazing!

[TomC]

I might just add that I feel that BB15 had some fantastic, throughly memorable HMs. BB16 is distinctively forgettable IMO.

[Dominic]

BB16 had some great gals, but all were wasted on this **** series.

[andybigbro]

4in4out ruined it