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Niamh.
14-10-2015, 09:31 AM
...........is worth $5million. How sick would you be if you were the person who sold it? :worry:

FRESNO, Calif. -- A collector bought a photo at a junk shop in Fresno, California, for $2. Turns out, the guy on the left of the photo is the infamous outlaw, Billy the Kid, playing croquet.

Photos of Billy are extremely rare-- experts say this one could be worth $5 million.

The showdown between frontier lawman Pat Garrett and notorious outlaw Billy the Kid has fascinated the American public for nearly 130 years with its classic Old West storyline.

http://cbsnews2.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2015/10/14/de5698d5-322c-4c82-a77b-abbd2a23c8c8/thumbnail/620x350/21235a3376b1c632970e3c2f58b08ad5/screen-shot-2015-10-13-at-9-09-28-pm.png

Garrett shot down Billy the Kid -- aka William Bonney -- on July 14, 1881. Garrett tracked him after the outlaw escaped from the Lincoln County, N.M. jail in a famous gun battle that left two deputies dead.

The Kid's status as an Old West folk hero grew as countless books, films and songs were written about the gunslinger and his exploits. According to legend, he killed 21 people, one for each year of his life, but the New Mexico Tourism Department puts the total closer to nine.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/rare-photo-of-infamous-outlaw-billy-the-kid-surfaces/

arista
14-10-2015, 09:35 AM
They were the days

kirklancaster
14-10-2015, 10:33 AM
Fascinating. There is though, a controversial claim that far from hunting Billy down and killing him, his 'ex'- friend Garrett actually let Billy go and another shot-up unidentifiable corpse was taken back by Garrett as Billy. The theory goes that Billy lived to a ripe old age of 91.

Josy
14-10-2015, 10:46 AM
My god, you would be gutted if you had sold it for $2

I haven't read the entire article (just the part in the OP) how did they identify him in that pic?

Niamh.
14-10-2015, 10:50 AM
My god, you would be gutted if you had sold it for $2

I haven't read the entire article (just the part in the OP) how did they identify him in that pic?

I'd say I'd be throwing myself off a bridge if it were me :worry:

There's a video in the link and they can zoom right in to the picture so they must have been able to identify him

Kizzy
14-10-2015, 10:50 AM
Who cares... if there was a pic of any other murderer would it be looked on as such a treasure? I may start a collection of photos of random killers just in case.

Josy
14-10-2015, 10:52 AM
I'd say I'd be throwing myself off a bridge if it were me :worry:

There's a video in the link and they can zoom right in to the picture so they must have been able to identify him

Oh right, I'll take a look

Niamh.
14-10-2015, 10:52 AM
Who cares... if there was a pic of any other murderer would it be looked on as such a treasure? I may start a collection of photos of random killers just in case.

Only because photos from back then are so rare I guess, all the modern day criminals have mountains of pictures available

bots
14-10-2015, 10:55 AM
Its pretty similar to the antique road show stories, picked up a vase for 10 pence and its valued at whatever .... happens all the time. We should all be hoarders and never dump or sell anything :laugh:

Ammi
14-10-2015, 10:59 AM
...that's pretty cool, I'll read the article..I wonder if the person who bought it had an idea of it's value at the time.../I love stuff like that...old children's pop-up books are my particular thing...

Ammi
14-10-2015, 11:01 AM
...wow, it's so clear when they zoomed in but still, how would they authenticate it and know it's him...it still could be anyone though...

Crimson Dynamo
14-10-2015, 11:04 AM
is that Kirk on the horse?

:think:

Niamh.
14-10-2015, 11:05 AM
is that Kirk on the horse?

:think:

:laugh:


I was thinking you would be interested in this story LT, that's your sort of work isn't it?

Kizzy
14-10-2015, 11:07 AM
Only because photos from back then are so rare I guess, all the modern day criminals have mountains of pictures available

There were many notaries from that era who provided a positive legacy why are their images not worth as much if not more? It's due to his infamy his murderous acts, I see no reason for the hype.

Niamh.
14-10-2015, 11:08 AM
There were many notaries from that era who provided a positive legacy why are their images not worth as much if not more? It's due to his infamy his murderous acts, I see no reason for the hype.

Well yeah but that's just the way of the world really isn't it?

Iceman
14-10-2015, 11:10 AM
Such a great picture. So much history in it. I'd be kicking myself if I sold it at that price

Ammi
14-10-2015, 11:16 AM
..if it was me that bought it, I would want to go back and talk to the people who sold it to find out if there was history connected there as well../their ancestry...

arista
14-10-2015, 11:17 AM
Such a great picture. So much history in it. I'd be kicking myself if I sold it at that price


I have seen the Same thing in a Record Fair
a Bloke sold me a Brand New 2001 Official
DTS 5.1 Audio Mix Paul McCartney
"band on the run"
for £2


On amazon it was £80 as its rare


But that seller had loads of DTS disc's
not knowing they are Rare
and going up in value every week

Ammi
14-10-2015, 11:27 AM
"Simple resemblance is not enough in a case like this - a team of experts had to be assembled to address each and every detail in the photo to ensure that nothing was out of place.

"After more than a year of methodical study including my own inspection of the site, there is now overwhelming evidence of the image's authenticity."

The only other known photograph of the Kid was a portrait taken in Fort Sumner, New Mexico, in 1880.

That tintype image sold for $2.3m (£1.5m) in 2010.

The discovery will be the subject of a two-hour documentary on the National Geographic Channel, which will air on 18 October



..that's Sunday I think so I'll try to remember to watch it...

Cherie
14-10-2015, 11:37 AM
Either someone has absolute proof this is him or its a very elaborate scam, either way the seller must be gutted. I do throw a lot of stuff out which probably in years to come will be valuable :worry:

arista
14-10-2015, 11:41 AM
Either someone has absolute proof this is him or its a very elaborate scam, either way the seller must be gutted. I do throw a lot of stuff out which probably in years to come will be valuable :worry:


Yes Easy to Trick the Irish

Marsh.
14-10-2015, 11:44 AM
There were many notaries from that era who provided a positive legacy why are their images not worth as much if not more? It's due to his infamy his murderous acts, I see no reason for the hype.

2 dollars is hardly a lot.

Kizzy
14-10-2015, 11:44 AM
:umm2: I meant the price tag of millions for the pic of a murderer obv marsh.

Marsh.
14-10-2015, 11:44 AM
Either someone has absolute proof this is him or its a very elaborate scam, either way the seller must be gutted. I do throw a lot of stuff out which probably in years to come will be valuable :worry:

Your poor husband.

Niamh.
14-10-2015, 11:45 AM
Yes Easy to Trick the Irish

This is a story from California :umm2: What the hell are you on about Arista

Iceman
14-10-2015, 11:48 AM
Yes Easy to Trick the Irish

What are you waffling on about.

kirklancaster
14-10-2015, 11:50 AM
is that Kirk on the horse?

:think:

:laugh:

bots
14-10-2015, 12:06 PM
This is a story from California :umm2: What the hell are you on about Arista

was it an Irish person in California :think:

Crimson Dynamo
14-10-2015, 12:09 PM
The Irish economy is not great and they are spending millions of photos!

this has to stop, what about austerity?

Cherie
14-10-2015, 12:11 PM
Your poor husband.

He is worse, he once threw all the Christmas decs out, a mistake I grant you but he does like a clear out :laugh: maybe I'm next :worry:

Cherie
14-10-2015, 12:12 PM
The Irish economy is not great and they are spending millions of photos!

this has to stop, what about austerity?

In the truths list of rich countries, we are up there..we can afford it :smug:

the truth
14-10-2015, 12:22 PM
awesome story...for some reason American legends are more lucrative, maybe because the movies keep them alive and of course theyre more recent in the memory? ps anyone else off down the car boot sales?

Kizzy
14-10-2015, 12:24 PM
In the truths list of rich countries, we are up there..we can afford it :smug:

Thought I hadn't seen Wogan for a while.... WHO DID YOU SELL HIM TO?!!! :fist:

Johnnyuk123
14-10-2015, 12:29 PM
I wonder how much my picture of billy the kid will fetch? :hehe:
https://www.konaearth.com/Life/2005/051204/Billy.jpg

arista
14-10-2015, 12:32 PM
I wonder how much my picture of billy the kid will fetch? :hehe:
https://www.konaearth.com/Life/2005/051204/Billy.jpg



20p

MTVN
14-10-2015, 12:42 PM
I'll bid 30p Johnny

Crimson Dynamo
14-10-2015, 12:43 PM
will it come pre slaughtered?

Niamh.
14-10-2015, 12:51 PM
was it an Irish person in California :think:

Not that it mentions in the article unless Arista has some insider info :idc:

arista
14-10-2015, 12:53 PM
What are you waffling on about.


I am Not

But it was posted by a Lady



And a English Lady
said how do we know its not a Fake

arista
14-10-2015, 12:54 PM
I'll bid 30p Johnny


55p for Billy the Goat Picture

Niamh.
14-10-2015, 12:57 PM
I am Not

But it was posted by a Lady



And a English Lady
said how do we know its not a Fake

Excuse me?

arista
14-10-2015, 12:58 PM
Well we must find out its not a fake

Niamh.
14-10-2015, 12:59 PM
Well we must find out its not a fake

It isn't fake, it's been authenticated

arista
14-10-2015, 01:00 PM
It isn't fake, it's been authenticated


Cherie is not sure

Niamh.
14-10-2015, 01:01 PM
Cherie is not sure

So?

arista
14-10-2015, 01:04 PM
So?


Nothing wrong with backing her

Niamh.
14-10-2015, 01:04 PM
Nothing wrong with backing her

Cherie is Irish

Crimson Dynamo
14-10-2015, 01:09 PM
Cherie is Irish

bit harsh neem

Niamh.
14-10-2015, 01:11 PM
bit harsh neem

Could have said she was Scottish but I held back :smug:

Crimson Dynamo
14-10-2015, 01:13 PM
Could have said she was Scottish but I held back :smug:

I am sure she would love a bit of Scottish in her


:creep:

arista
14-10-2015, 01:14 PM
Cherie is Irish



she never told me

Niamh.
14-10-2015, 01:15 PM
she never told me

So now you're aware I guess you think the Irish are not easy to fool, eh? :fan:

arista
14-10-2015, 01:20 PM
So now you're aware I guess you think the Irish are not easy to fool, eh? :fan:


Many people are Fooled
Women more than Men



I would Buy this for 2bucks

Niamh.
14-10-2015, 01:21 PM
Many people are Fooled
Women more than Men



I would Buy this for 2bucks

Xenophobic and now Sexist. Shame on you Arista, shame on you :nono:

bots
14-10-2015, 01:21 PM
Many people are Fooled
Women more than Men



I would Buy this for 2bucks

Sign of the times :laugh:

arista
14-10-2015, 01:30 PM
Xenophobic and now Sexist. Shame on you Arista, shame on you :nono:


Its Not Sexist
its Proven.

Niamh.
14-10-2015, 01:32 PM
Its Not Sexist
its Proven.

By who?

arista
14-10-2015, 01:35 PM
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/38/Coolieusa.jpg


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenophobia




Thats not me
I Trade with People all over the World



We must Get back on Topic

Niamh.
14-10-2015, 01:37 PM
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/38/Coolieusa.jpg


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenophobia




Thats not me
I Trade with People all over the World



We must Get back on Topic

If you just apologised and not made a deeper hole for yourself, we'd already be back on topic :nono:

kirklancaster
14-10-2015, 01:50 PM
awesome story...for some reason American legends are more lucrative, maybe because the movies keep them alive and of course theyre more recent in the memory? ps anyone else off down the car boot sales?

They are more valuable because they have only a few hundred years of history, so something even a 100 years old which has anything to do with their myths or legends is grossly inflated in both importance AND value.

kirklancaster
14-10-2015, 01:51 PM
If you just apologised and not made a deeper hole for yourself, we'd already be back on topic :nono:

Not the green man in the doghouse?:laugh:

Niamh.
14-10-2015, 01:52 PM
Not the green man in the doghouse?:laugh:

You would think with him being green and all he'd be more Irish friendly :nono:

kirklancaster
14-10-2015, 01:59 PM
You would think with him being green and all he'd be more Irish friendly :nono:

:laugh:

arista
14-10-2015, 02:11 PM
If you just apologised and not made a deeper hole for yourself, we'd already be back on topic :nono:



I have Done nothing Wrong

Niamh.
14-10-2015, 02:13 PM
I have Done nothing Wrong

except insult Irish people

arista
14-10-2015, 02:19 PM
except insult Irish people


Be Jesus


Its Not a Insult

Niamh.
14-10-2015, 02:22 PM
Be Jesus


Its Not a Insult

Saying we're stupid?

Cherie
14-10-2015, 02:40 PM
I am sure she would love a bit of Scottish in her


:creep:


Not sure I would actually I wouldn't know what he was saying :worry:

she never told me

sorry I should have told you.

Cherie
14-10-2015, 02:41 PM
Saying we're stupid?


Uh oh Niamh is enraged :laugh:

Johnnyuk123
14-10-2015, 02:43 PM
will it come pre slaughtered?

:joker::joker::joker: yup

Johnnyuk123
14-10-2015, 02:43 PM
I'll bid 30p Johnny

SOLD!!! :joker::joker::joker:

Niamh.
14-10-2015, 02:45 PM
Not sure I would actually I wouldn't know what he was saying :worry:



sorry I should have told you.

:laugh2:

Uh oh Niamh is enraged :laugh:

:fan:

King Gizzard
14-10-2015, 02:47 PM
What is Ireland

Niamh.
14-10-2015, 02:48 PM
What is Ireland

http://cdn.thisisbigbrother.com/customavatars/avatar14455_451.gif

arista
14-10-2015, 02:57 PM
SOLD!!! :joker::joker::joker:


I went Above That Cheap Skate Mod

MTVN
14-10-2015, 03:01 PM
Too late arista the gavel has come down on my 30p bid

arista
14-10-2015, 03:04 PM
Saying we're stupid?


Thats a Word I never Used
I will have Get my legal team onto You

Johnnyuk123
14-10-2015, 03:05 PM
I went Above That Cheap Skate Mod

:joker::joker::joker: Too late! :wavey:

Niamh.
14-10-2015, 03:08 PM
Thats a Word I never Used
I will have Get my legal team onto You

Saying we're easy to trick implies stupidity Arista, OVER RULED!

arista
14-10-2015, 03:09 PM
Saying we're easy to trick implies stupidity Arista, OVER RULED!


No it Does Not

Niamh.
14-10-2015, 03:10 PM
No it Does Not

Yes. It does.

kirklancaster
14-10-2015, 03:26 PM
What is Ireland

:laugh:

Marsh.
14-10-2015, 06:53 PM
He is worse, he once threw all the Christmas decs out, a mistake I grant you but he does like a clear out :laugh: maybe I'm next :worry:

:joker:

Kizzy
14-10-2015, 07:03 PM
I threw all my mothers 60s and 70s clothes out... then discovered idiots who pay silly money for retro fashion :/

Northern Monkey
15-10-2015, 11:00 AM
"Simple resemblance is not enough in a case like this - a team of experts had to be assembled to address each and every detail in the photo to ensure that nothing was out of place.

"After more than a year of methodical study including my own inspection of the site, there is now overwhelming evidence of the image's authenticity."

The only other known photograph of the Kid was a portrait taken in Fort Sumner, New Mexico, in 1880.

That tintype image sold for $2.3m (£1.5m) in 2010.

The discovery will be the subject of a two-hour documentary on the National Geographic Channel, which will air on 18 October



..that's Sunday I think so I'll try to remember to watch it...Me too.Very interesting and very cool.