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Mystic Mock
15-10-2015, 08:54 AM
Which one do you think is the worst trait to have out of the two? They're both obviously annoying traits but at least with people that are deliberately being awkward is due to wanting to be individual, I can't get behind or understand anybody that doesn't have a mind of their own and I've known a few people in my personal life be like this as well and it's incredibly annoying.

Cherie
15-10-2015, 08:56 AM
Is there a poll! Being a sheep is the worst, awful trait, although being deliberately awkward is not far behind..

Kizzy
15-10-2015, 08:57 AM
Is there a poll! Being a sheep is the worst, awful trait

True closely followed by fence sitters.

Mystic Mock
15-10-2015, 08:58 AM
Is there a poll! Being a sheep is the worst, awful trait, although being deliberately awkward is not far behind..

I forgot to add a poll.:laugh:

I tried to access the thread tools section but it wouldn't let me so I was hoping if a Mod could add a poll please?

Cherie
15-10-2015, 08:59 AM
True closely followed by fence sitters.

Or people who self promote :bored:

Cherie
15-10-2015, 09:00 AM
I forgot to add a poll.:laugh:

I tried to access the thread tools section but it wouldn't let me so I was hoping if a Mod could add a poll please?

I don't think they can now sadly

kirklancaster
15-10-2015, 09:01 AM
I think there's a real difference Mock in someone being an 'Individual' and someone who is 'Deliberately Akward'.

I like to think that I'm an Individual, but I guess that we all have to 'follow the crowd' sometimes, then there are times when our independently made 'Individual' choices are the same as the 'Majority'.

Mystic Mock
15-10-2015, 09:08 AM
I think there's a real difference Mock in someone being an 'Individual' and someone who is 'Deliberately Akward'.

I like to think that I'm an Individual, but I guess that we all have to 'follow the crowd' sometimes, then there are times when our independently made 'Individual' choices are the same as the 'Majority'.

Oh I agree with what you're saying on this Kirklancaster, I would never attack someone for having an opinion that fits in with the majority if they genuinely felt that way because that would make me be in the deliberately awkward category.

And I agree with what Kizzy said earlier, I hate fence sitters too.

Niamh.
15-10-2015, 09:08 AM
Do I have to pick? some sheepish behaviour is worse than deliberate awkwardness and vice versa

Niamh.
15-10-2015, 09:09 AM
Oh I agree with what you're saying on this Kirklancaster, I would never attack someone for having an opinion that fits in with the majority if they genuinely felt that way because that would make me be in the deliberately awkward category.

And I agree with what Kizzy said earlier, I hate fence sitters too.

alot of times people don't have a strong enough opinion either way on a subject or situation to want to bother getting off the fence :shrug:

Mystic Mock
15-10-2015, 09:13 AM
alot of times people don't have a strong enough opinion either way on a subject or situation to want to bother getting off the fence :shrug:

I wouldn't term that as proper fence sitting though, I would actually call that sensible behaviour.

What I call fence sitting is when it's like getting blood out of a stone just to get them to say what their favourite Food is as an example and they won't give out an answer.

LukeB
15-10-2015, 09:16 AM
Being a sheep is worse

waterhog
15-10-2015, 09:29 AM
Which one do you think is the worst trait to have out of the two? They're both obviously annoying traits but at least with people that are deliberately being awkward is due to wanting to be individual, I can't get behind or understand anybody that doesn't have a mind of their own and I've known a few people in my personal life be like this as well and it's incredibly annoying.

there are to many things this can relate to ?

ie work ?

private ?

betting ?

I always try to go with my heart on everything ? if it does not feel right I won't do it - don't both me if the the rest of the world does it. example of this is like them crap shows "only way is Essex" or "towie" .

I can not bring myself to watch this trivial.


morning Jeremy kyle ???????????????? :joker:

DemolitionRed
15-10-2015, 09:47 AM
I only use 'sheep' as an insult. I believe the human race is made up of a huge amount of followers (sheep if you want to insult them) and a smaller proportion of leaders. Some of those followers aspire to be leaders and this is when we see verbal 'awkwardness'.

I'd say that fence sitters are comfortable followers, because when a battle breaks out between two potential leaders, the fence sitter prefers to look on with interest from a safe distance.

I agree with Niamh when she says 'sheepish' behaviour can be worse . There is a woman at my work who appears to be sweet and caring and somewhat insignificant; she quietly stirs up trouble amongst the ranks before sitting back and watching the battles commence. To me, that's the cowardly behaviour of a sheep.

joeysteele
15-10-2015, 09:50 AM
I hate being a sheep but if I really believe in something than nothing will turn me from that course, at times that may make me seem deliberately awkward to the opposing view but there it is.

Niamh.
15-10-2015, 09:50 AM
I only use 'sheep' as an insult. I believe the human race is made up of a huge amount of followers (sheep if you want to insult them) and a smaller proportion of leaders. Some of those followers aspire to be leaders and this is when we see verbal 'awkwardness'.

I'd say that fence sitters are comfortable followers, because when a battle breaks out between two potential leaders, the fence sitter prefers to look on with interest from a safe distance.

I agree with Niamh when she says 'sheepish' behaviour can be worse . There is a woman at my work who appears to be sweet and caring and somewhat insignificant; she quietly stirs up trouble amongst the ranks before sitting back and watching the battles commence. To me, that's the cowardly behaviour of a sheep.

A wolf in Sheeps clothing?

Niamh.
15-10-2015, 09:52 AM
I think also alot of times people are accused of being sheep just because they agree with majority where as maybe the majority is the majority because it's what most people actually think is right

Jason.
15-10-2015, 10:54 AM
Being a sheep is worse.

smudgie
15-10-2015, 11:09 AM
I love real sheep..can't see the point of using it as an insult.
If someone doesn't agree with me or can't form an opinion on any given subject then so be it, hardly a ruddy crime.
The same as so called fence sitting, not everyone has an opinion either way on every subject going.:shrug:

Denver
15-10-2015, 11:10 AM
Im the Shepard and round up my sheep :hehe:

Kizzy
15-10-2015, 12:57 PM
alot of times people don't have a strong enough opinion either way on a subject or situation to want to bother getting off the fence :shrug:

Oh bore off! :joker:

Niamh.
15-10-2015, 12:58 PM
Oh bore off! :joker:

Pipe down Helen :nono:

Kizzy
15-10-2015, 01:10 PM
Pipe down Helen :nono:

:hehe:

I meant fence sitters as in those who deliberately suppress their view to fit in with the majority if I'm forced to explain my terminology.

Not those who genuinely haven't made their mind up on any given subject.
And if you haven't an opinion on a topic then it begs the question why you'd be involved in a discussion in the first instance, but that's just me.

Niamh.
15-10-2015, 01:13 PM
:hehe:

I meant fence sitters as in those who deliberately suppress their view to fit in with the majority if I'm forced to explain my terminology.

Not those who genuinely haven't made their mind up on any given subject.
And if you haven't an opinion on a topic then it begs the question why you'd be involved in a discussion in the first instance, but that's just me.

Well, I guess the only time I can think of really off the top of my head, where people are accused of being fence sitters is on Big brother and tbh most of the time I just think about that, maybe they just don't want to choose a side in your stupid arguments :laugh:

Kizzy
15-10-2015, 01:16 PM
Well, I guess the only time I can think of really off the top of my head, where people are accused of being fence sitters is on Big brother and tbh most of the time I just think about that, maybe they just don't want to choose a side in your stupid arguments :laugh:

My arguments?... :/

Niamh.
15-10-2015, 01:18 PM
My arguments?... :/

No, I'm talking about when BB HMs accuse other BB HMs of being fence sitters

Kizzy
15-10-2015, 01:21 PM
No, I'm talking about when BB HMs accuse other BB HMs of being fence sitters

Ah right, oh it's different when it's about HMs as they are so changeable.

LukeB
15-10-2015, 01:41 PM
I think also alot of times people are accused of being sheep just because they agree with majority where as maybe the majority is the majority because it's what most people actually think is right

I've been accused of being a sheep before because I mainly have same opinions as another member(but we have disagreed many times) :laugh: but i've liked/had the same opinion for years way before i was active on this site.

kirklancaster
15-10-2015, 02:02 PM
I think also alot of times people are accused of being sheep just because they agree with majority where as maybe the majority is the majority because it's what most people actually think is right

You are FAR too logical for this forum Niamh. :laugh::laugh:

Ashley.
15-10-2015, 02:06 PM
I've never been a sheep as such, but some of the decisions I've made have been influenced by those in my friendship groups.

Josy
15-10-2015, 02:10 PM
How can you be sure if someone is just being deliberately awkward though if they don't agree with the majority? maybe they just really have a different opinion :think:

arista
15-10-2015, 02:19 PM
How can you be sure if someone is just being deliberately awkward though if they don't agree with the majority? maybe they just really have a different opinion :think:


I have seen Just that
with a Member that messed with me
and You have Banned many times

bots
15-10-2015, 02:46 PM
i disagree

Ashley.
15-10-2015, 02:58 PM
How can you be sure if someone is just being deliberately awkward though if they don't agree with the majority? maybe they just really have a different opinion :think:

Yeah I would say there's quite a wide gap between being a sheep and being deliberately awkward.

Johnnyuk123
16-10-2015, 08:24 PM
Being an individual and having an opinion of your own is very important to me. So i would never choose to be a sheep, but i would also say that not being a sheep does not automatically imply that you are an awkward person.:wavey:

Ammi
17-10-2015, 03:38 AM
..I would say that both are extremes and extremes are never good so neither really..if you're being deliberately awkward, then you're not being individual..individual is a natural thing, it's not deliberate...you just are..

DemolitionRed
17-10-2015, 08:51 AM
Being an individual and having an opinion of your own is very important to me. So i would never choose to be a sheep, but i would also say that not being a sheep does not automatically imply that you are an awkward person.:wavey:

I strongly agree with this.
I think that although you and I have different political opinions, we are fairly similar, so regardless of how your opinion differs with mine, I have to admire your stance (awkwardness :hehe:) and admire the stance of most people who hold a passionate opinion.

Having a minority opinion can make you unpopular to the majority and so you need thick skin. Some people don't really have an opinion but prefer to remain with the popular majority and that's fine, it doesn't make them sheep, it just means they prefer to play things safe and remain popular.

Mystic Mock
18-10-2015, 02:09 AM
I strongly agree with this.
I think that although you and I have different political opinions, we are fairly similar, so regardless of how your opinion differs with mine, I have to admire your stance (awkwardness :hehe:) and admire the stance of most people who hold a passionate opinion.

Having a minority opinion can make you unpopular to the majority and so you need thick skin. Some people don't really have an opinion but prefer to remain with the popular majority and that's fine, it doesn't make them sheep, it just means they prefer to play things safe and remain popular.

The last part of your post defines what I think a sheep person is like, they are so scared to be in the minority group with whatever opinion so they just go with the majority even if they don't care about the topic at hand.

Amy Jade
18-10-2015, 05:41 AM
Sheep. I don't think being awkward is that bad at all, I'd say I'm awkward - not to piss people off I just generally support the under dog.

DemolitionRed
18-10-2015, 09:54 AM
Sheep. I don't think being awkward is that bad at all, I'd say I'm awkward - not to piss people off I just generally support the under dog.

That's an interesting one Amy. A person who isn't necessarily forthright but who is willing to jump in and support the underdog, even if that means losing their own popularity. In my world that isn't being awkward.

I would say that such a person holds high moral values and insists on fairness. I would call these sorts 'diplomats' :)

Cal.
18-10-2015, 10:18 AM
alot of times people don't have a strong enough opinion either way on a subject or situation to want to bother getting off the fence :shrug:

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