Isis Oil sold to many even their enemy

[arista]

http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2015/10/15/424363/default/v1/ft-1-442x589.jpg

Isis are making money over the Oil fields that
they have Captured
they even Sell to their Enemy.


It was debate on Radio 5 Business

Sign Of The Times

[Livia]

Only a fraction of the oil we import comes from the Middle East. I'd be astonished and disgusted if any was finding its way into the West.

[Kizzy]

I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest.

[Mystic Mock]

That will blow up in the UN's face.

[Livia]

I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest.

That's only because you have such a dim view of our country.

[Mystic Mock]

That's only because you have such a dim view of our country.

Tbf it wouldn't just be this country doing it though but a lot of the western world.

[Livia]

Tbf it wouldn't just be this country doing it though but a lot of the western world.

That's conjecture and guesswork, Mock. I'd be shocked to see evidence of this oil coming into the West.

[Mystic Mock]

That's conjecture and guesswork, Mock. I'd be shocked to see evidence of this oil coming into the West.

Oh I know that it's just guesswork, I'm just saying that if it's true then it wouldn't be just this country to blame but a lot of western countries.

[Livia]

Oh I know that it's just guesswork, I'm just saying that if it's true then it wouldn't be just this country to blame but a lot of western countries.

If it's found any Western country had imported oil from Syria then there will be hell to pay. Both the EU and the USA have sanctions in place on the import and export of goods to and from Syria, particularly oil.

[Kizzy]

That's only because you have such a dim view of our country.

This character assassination has to stop... I am a realist.

[Livia]

This character assassination has to stop... I am a realist.

We have sanctions in place to stop the import and export of goods to and from Syria. Imagining that means nothing is not being a realist it's being a reactionary because you're not keen on the current government and you don't let the facts stand in the way of that. I have come to that conclusion from all your other posts. If you think I've attempted to assassinate your character then by all means, hit the report button.

[Kizzy]

We have sanctions in place to stop the import and export of goods to and from Syria. Imagining that means nothing is not being a realist it's being a reactionary because you're not keen on the current government and you don't let the facts stand in the way of that. I have come to that conclusion from all your other posts. If you think I've attempted to assassinate your character then by all means, hit the report button.

Yes and anyone determined would have to be more creative and as in a game of chess move the pieces, it wouldn't take a mastermind and is entirely feasible.
I'm good thanks, I'll just reply in defence as always.

[Livia]

Yes and anyone determined would have to be more creative and as in a game of chess move the pieces, it wouldn't take a mastermind and is entirely feasible.
I'm good thanks, I'll just reply in defence as always.

There is an EU sanction. It'd be expensive and fraught with difficulty to import oil, you can't bring it in in your suitcase.

[Kizzy]

Yes I am aware of that thankyou.

[arista]

There is an EU sanction. It'd be expensive and fraught with difficulty to import oil, you can't bring it in in your suitcase.


They have used Big trucks with Oil trunks
and Sold to Turkey
taken by roads

[Kizzy]

Well what do you know... it is possible then.

[bots]

Turkey is not in the EU

[DemolitionRed]

This was written by the Telegraph back in March

http://www.businessinsider.com/revealed-the-oil-middleman-between-the-syrian-regime-and-isis-2015-3?IR=T

[arista]

Turkey is not in the EU



Yes but they are Isis Enemy
THATS the point

[bots]

Yes but they are Isis Enemy
THATS the point

its only relevant if Turkey has active sanctions against Syria though including oil. Also, not all of Turkey consider Isis the enemy, far from it.

[JoshBB]

I reckon some of it has gotten it's way into not only our country but to much of the western world. An investigation into that is really needed.

[Livia]

I reckon some of it has gotten it's way into not only our country but to much of the western world. An investigation into that is really needed.

You cannot assume that, Josh. Sanctions are sanctions, they are taken extremely seriously. Why would you want to waste public money on an investigation on an import sector that is already really heavily managed and administered?

[JoshBB]

You cannot assume that, Josh. Sanctions are sanctions, they are taken extremely seriously. Why would you want to waste public money on an investigation on an import sector that is already really heavily managed and administered?

I know you cannot assume which is why I think it should be looked into. I also don't understand the whole sanctions thing when we still sell arms to those regions, surely that contradicts our purpose and we need to make sure we aren't doing the same thing with oil.

[bots]

the reason its highly unlikely that the oil got into the uk is because the oil intake is controlled by a relatively few companies, all of which have their own verified sources. Its not a general commodity that can be taken and used without processing first. Plenty of other goods could find their way in if they beat the systems, but oil really would be a long stretch

[Livia]

I know you cannot assume which is why I think it should be looked into. I also don't understand the whole sanctions thing when we still sell arms to those regions, surely that contradicts our purpose and we need to make sure we aren't doing the same thing with oil.

There are also EU sanctions in place for arms and ammunition.

[arista]

its only relevant if Turkey has active sanctions against Syria though including oil. Also, not all of Turkey consider Isis the enemy, far from it.




The Fecking Leader of Turkey Wants Isis Gone


That Counts More than what you say.

[bots]

The Fecking Leader of Turkey Wants Isis Gone


That Counts More than what you say.

There is plenty support for isis within Turkey ....

http://www.globalresearch.ca/turkey-supports-isis-now-declares-war-against-isis-but-instead-bombs-its-political-rival-which-is-the-most-effective-force-fighting-isis/5466169

NATO member Turkey has been busted supporting ISIS.

The Guardian reported this week:

US special forces raided the compound of an Islamic State leader in eastern Syria in May, they made sure not to tell the neighbours.

The target of that raid, the first of its kind since US jets returned to the skies over Iraq last August, was an Isis official responsible for oil smuggling, named Abu Sayyaf. He was almost unheard of outside the upper echelons of the terror group, but he was well known to Turkey. From mid-2013, the Tunisian fighter had been responsible for smuggling oil from Syria’s eastern fields, which the group had by then commandeered. Black market oil quickly became the main driver of Isis revenues – and Turkish buyers were its main clients.

As a result, the oil trade between the jihadis and the Turks was held up as evidence of an alliance between the two.

***

In the wake of the raid that killed Abu Sayyaf, suspicions of an undeclared alliance have hardened. One senior western official familiar with the intelligence gathered at the slain leader’s compound said that direct dealings between Turkish officials and ranking Isis members was now “undeniable”.

“There are hundreds of flash drives and documents that were seized there,” the official told the Observer. “They are being analysed at the moment, but the links are already so clear that they could end up having profound policy implications for the relationship between us and Ankara.”

[Livia]

great post, bitontheside. I am inclined to agree